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John Perry TD, 100 Day's are up.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Wester


    Him and McLoughlin both have disgraced themselves but sure what do people expect, that FG would be any different to FF? They both came out of the same organisation and the only people who've ever seen any difference between the two are the same eejits whose ancestors fought over whether Dev was a bo..x or not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    How did we ever elect such a gob****e?

    This is what we are subjected to...

    http://soundcloud.com/oceanfm/minister-john-perry-fg-hangs?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=twitter&utm_content=http://soundcloud.com/oceanfm/minister-john-perry-fg-hangs

    He is a disgrace, FG and FF are each a cheek from the same arse

    Sligo-North Leitrim had some really uninspiring candidates; apart from the tossers who were elected we were offered the cousins MacSharry and Clarke, even worse than Perry and McLoughlin!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Considering the amount of counts it took to decide the Sligo/North Leitreim allot of people were undesisive on who they wanted.

    Putting that aside he was elected and he should be keeping to the election pledges that he made. How many days left now to reinstate services, 20 or there abouts?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    And don't forget his pledge to keep the PSO money for Sligo Airport too ;)

    As for Tony, I haven't heard a whole lot out of him since he snook in.

    Don't expect to either.

    Promises, promises


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    Pete M. wrote: »
    And don't forget his pledge to keep the PSO money for Sligo Airport too ;)

    As for Tony, I haven't heard a whole lot out of him since he snook in.

    Don't expect to either.

    Promises, promises

    McLoughlin was bottom of the pond on the Corpo, you could always rely on some stupidity of his to reported in the Chumpion, in the Dail he is in the primeval soup.

    Perry is the Gombben TD par excellence.

    You can always on Sligo Leitrim to be in the competition for worst TD's in the Dail, perhaps they will resign from FG in protect.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭redarmyblues


    Pete M. wrote: »
    And don't forget his pledge to keep the PSO money for Sligo Airport too ;)

    As for Tony, I haven't heard a whole lot out of him since he snook in.

    Don't expect to either.

    Promises, promises

    McLoughlin was bottom of the pond on the Corpo, you could always rely on some stupidity of his to reported in the Chumpion, in the Dail he is in the primeval soup.

    Perry is the Gombben TD par excellence.

    You can always on Sligo Leitrim to be in the competition for worst TD's in the Dail, perhaps they will resign from FG in protest at the withdrawal.
    of cancer services, perhaps we are lucky to have such ineffectual reps, god knows what montrosities they would inflict on this poor benighted town if they were halfway near any good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    I'm not standing up for John but I have to say I don't like the way the presenter on the radio station speaks to people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Ah come on :confused:

    John got a fairly gentle going over really. The man is a TD and is meant to represent you and I. He is failing miserably as far as I'm concerned.

    If anyone acted inappropriately during that interview, it was Perry, not the presenter.

    Poor auld Niall :P

    I like the very end of the clip though - "...and that's minister john perry gone..."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,660 ✭✭✭magnumlady


    I didn't hear it but I do find Niall rude to people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Pete M.


    Tbh, if I was speaking to Minister Perry, I'd probably end up being rather rude myself.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭shellyriver


    Fair play to Niall Delaney on this - Perry, trumped up the Cancer Card and got elected. When it came to coming up with the goods, he doesn't like to be reminded of it, when he has failed to deliver.

    His attempt to personalise it back on Delaney -- was tragic and an utter kop-out.

    In the main, local reps get an easy ride -- when it comes to important issues, health, access and jobs, they are abysmal.

    Abolish the Senate, methinks the Dail is the first place for dismantling.

    Roll on a quick election -- let's see if Ireland has any balls, because mark my words this country is facing utter social ruination -- real change is needed, I mean, REAL change.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,370 ✭✭✭✭Son Of A Vidic


    This is the scum who claim to represent us. The overpaid sap! we pay his bloated salary so he has some cheek in hanging up. It's his job to provide answers to us, he is accountable to us.........oh wait..........I forgot...............this is Ireland, silly me.:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 118 ✭✭Wester


    magnumlady wrote: »
    I didn't hear it but I do find Niall rude to people.

    It is true that a lot of presenters tend to be adversarial especially with politicians on programs such as the one that Niall Delaney presents, but you have to consider what they're dealing with. Politicians rely on PR professionals to tell them what to say. PR is one of the most cynical and manipulative "professions," for want of a better word, there is, so it's no wonder radio presenters get a bit aggro trying to cut through the guff. Perry hung up because he was exposed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭slapbangwallop


    Remember this?

    2.00 in for McLaughlin

    5.50 for Perry

    Seemed happy to answer the tough questions (with lies?) when he was looking for our vote!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoMrPyu8N2A&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 684 ✭✭✭slapbangwallop


    Just after looking at that video again and it struck me - jesus was a tit that Marc 'it was ME' MacSharry is.

    What an odious little man.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    What a gimp.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3 eirigi Sligeach


    Remember this?

    2.00 in for McLaughlin

    5.50 for Perry

    Seemed happy to answer the tough questions (with lies?) when he was looking for our vote!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoMrPyu8N2A&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

    And dont forget that Labour Senator Susan O Keefe's pledge to resign is in their also. She was on OceanFM today defending the U-Turn. Not sure if they have it online but would like to hear it again in more detail

    <snip>


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭shellyriver


    There it is. The very clear declarations from both now incumbent sitting FG TDs.

    Tony McLoughlin stated that Fine Gael will re-introduce Cancer Services, with a commitment being given.

    John Perry will resign from Fine Gael if that same commitment is not honoured etc.

    No caveat, no double-speak.

    Hospital will be upgraded and Cancer services returned etc.

    Let's await developments.

    Will a hat, some pepper and a knife and fork will be supplied on day 100?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    It's ridiculous.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭AgileMyth


    Essexboy wrote: »
    Sligo-North Leitrim had some really uninspiring candidates; apart from the tossers who were elected we were offered the cousins MacSharry and Clarke, even worse than Perry and McLoughlin!
    You can add Bree and Cawley to that list too.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 117 ✭✭the_wabbitt


    Will someone wake up and smell the coffee, the HSE is so financially ****ed at thenmoment that if the cancer services were reinstated in Sligo it would mean the removal of some other service!

    While it is an emotive subject the over all status of Sligo General Hospital as a GENERAL HOTPITAL is more important. While the candidates were banging on our doors begging for our votes they were aware of the financial position of the HSE.

    On the subject of John (I will appear at the opening of an envelope) Perry, I have always thought he was a blathering fool. Well we elected him, and like it or not, given the majority of the current administration, we are stuck with him! The best thing he can do is to to Terri Prone and learnA how to speak and B how to conduct himself when talking to the media.

    The comment by magnum lady about Niall Delaneys ignorance is to me without foundation when painted against background of the programmed previous presenter Robert Walshe, who's only achievement in Ocean Fm was to ensure that every politician in the region refused to ta to him. Some accolade given that it is a current affairs show. As for Delaney, he is an award winning journalist of impeccable moral standards and for a blathering fool of a SO CALLED politician to question his motives is bordering on the lowest of the low.

    In short WELL DONE SLIGO / NORTH LEITRIM !!!!! You elected him.

    W


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 116 ✭✭Tupamaros


    AgileMyth wrote: »
    You can add Bree and Cawley to that list too.

    No, you can't.

    To compare Bree to FF/FG gombeens is laughable to be honest, he's the only councillor (along with SF perhaps) that has continually opposed civil war parish pump nonsense in Sligo. People may disagree with him on issues, but to compare him to FG and FF...:rolleyes:

    Disgraceful from Perry, but sure in Ireland what do politics or capability matter, sure didn't he fix the road!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 913 ✭✭✭Ronan Keating




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Tupamaros wrote: »
    No, you can't.

    To compare Bree to FF/FG gombeens is laughable to be honest, he's the only councillor (along with SF perhaps) that has continually opposed civil war parish pump nonsense in Sligo. People may disagree with him on issues, but to compare him to FG and FF...:rolleyes:

    Disgraceful from Perry, but sure in Ireland what do politics or capability matter, sure didn't he fix the road!!

    Agree with you about Bree - the only honest councillor in the Strandhill area.
    In January, MacManus supported rezoning land in Rosses Point and Grange, putting the interests of the speculators before good planning. So much for SF's talk!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    Its taken as a given that polititians are arsewipes.

    But what about the cancer services?

    Terminal cases require pain control (Paliative? team access) and possibly radiation treatment, plus regular home visits by these teams to monitor medication etc. Are these resources in place?

    Treatable cases are completely different, they need to be seen by "busy" surgeons... ie the guys that have the experience to know best how to deal with it, hence the plan to centralise these services. Good in my opinion.

    Medically Its a great idea, but the logistics are the challenging part - only someone who has gone through it can attest IMHO. Its tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,392 ✭✭✭TequilaMockingBird


    I know of a lady suffering from cancer who couldn't get into town (she lived about 10 miles out), when she was reasonably well, due to double incontinence whilst receiving treatment for cancer in Sligo.

    Can you imagine the horror of having to get a bus to Galway in that situation?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Fishtits wrote: »
    Its taken as a given that polititians are arsewipes.

    But what about the cancer services?

    Terminal cases require pain control (Paliative? team access) and possibly radiation treatment, plus regular home visits by these teams to monitor medication etc. Are these resources in place?

    Treatable cases are completely different, they need to be seen by "busy" surgeons... ie the guys that have the experience to know best how to deal with it, hence the plan to centralise these services. Good in my opinion.

    Medically Its a great idea, but the logistics are the challenging part - only someone who has gone through it can attest IMHO. Its tough.

    Well this is what we were hoping for in Sligo or similar from Perrys pre election promise. Chemo and radio threapy is difficult enough with out having to travel for a few hours in each direction.

    The Sligo services are not just of benifit to Sligo and Leitrim, but those living beyond this as well. Parts of Donegal are a 2 hour plus drive away from Sligo, add that to a drive to Dublin, and its simply not good enough for people who are terminally ill to be treated like this.
    I know of a lady suffering from cancer who couldn't get into town (she lived about 10 miles out), when she was reasonably well, due to double incontinence whilst receiving treatment for cancer in Sligo.

    Can you imagine the horror of having to get a bus to Galway in that situation?

    A perfect example for a Centre of excellence to be in the North West.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Fishtits wrote: »
    Its taken as a given that polititians are arsewipes.

    But what about the cancer services?

    Terminal cases require pain control (Paliative? team access) and possibly radiation treatment, plus regular home visits by these teams to monitor medication etc. Are these resources in place?

    Treatable cases are completely different, they need to be seen by "busy" surgeons... ie the guys that have the experience to know best how to deal with it, hence the plan to centralise these services. Good in my opinion.

    Medically Its a great idea, but the logistics are the challenging part - only someone who has gone through it can attest IMHO. Its tough.

    Dude,
    You clearly know nothing about cancer and its treatment, dividing patients into just two groups.
    You need to learn about brachtherapy, hormone therapy and orchidectomies for a start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Essexboy wrote: »
    Agree with you about Bree - the only honest councillor in the Strandhill area.

    /spits coffee all over the keyboards

    I say.... you didn't say honest did you?
    I was at the meeting on Tuesday night. Bree is constantly claiming he had the support of the Cranmore Community to remove the bridge from the plan, well he was told out straight the other night he does not. What kind of kangaroo council do we have. They push to get the bridge moved forward in 2005, they sign off on the Gateway Inovation submission in 2007 which cleary connects the two projects. They sign off €750,000 to develop the bridge in 2007. And then they removed the bridge from the plan after receiving 279 submissions in favour of the bridge and not one against in 2008. Its a joke that they can try and justify this micky mouse behaviour

    Yeah, what an honest politician he is indeed. Must be why he did so well in the General Elections this year too.

    The man changes his mind when it suits him, or should I say when it suits his agenda, as demonstrated above. As a historical Bree voter, I will never be voting for him again.

    The comment by magnum lady about Niall Delaneys ignorance is to me without foundation when painted against background of the programmed previous presenter Robert Walshe, who's only achievement in Ocean Fm was to ensure that every politician in the region refused to ta to him. Some accolade given that it is a current affairs show. As for Delaney, he is an award winning journalist of impeccable moral standards and for a blathering fool of a SO CALLED politician to question his motives is bordering on the lowest of the

    So the reputation of a politican can be called into question, but that of a presenter asking the questions (Who is a well known FF man) can't be. What a load of rot. He, like any other broadcaster or political figure is in the public domain, and as such is subject to the same scrutiny as everyone else in the public eye.
    Him being of impeccable moral standards is you're opinion, which you are entitled to hold, but no one else is obliged to hold the same view. Winning an award is hardly relevant to this.
    P.S. I don't agree with what Perry did either, but if you can dish it out, you should be able to take it too, and that goes for both parties.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 233 ✭✭edolan


    Hopefully the people of Sligo are beginning to realise that there are actually other alternatives to Fianna Fail and Fine Gael. Maybe they will provide a decent alternative if they aren't in power and know that they will not get back into power when popularity for the other drops.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    /spits coffee all over the keyboards

    I say.... you didn't say honest did you?



    Yeah, what an honest politician he is indeed. Must be why he did so well in the General Elections this year too.

    The man changes his mind when it suits him, or should I say when it suits his agenda, as demonstrated above. As a historical Bree voter, I will never be voting for him again.

    So the reputation of a politican can be called into question, but that of a presenter asking the questions (Who is a well known FF man) can't be. What a load of rot. He, like any other broadcaster or political figure is in the public domain, and as such is subject to the same scrutiny as everyone else in the public eye.
    Him being of impeccable moral standards is you're opinion, which you are entitled to hold, but no one else is obliged to hold the same view. Winning an award is hardly relevant to this.
    P.S. I don't agree with what Perry did either, but if you can dish it out, you should be able to take it too, and that goes for both parties.

    Look at the bigger picture. Do councillors support the common good or the interests of developers and speculators?
    When the County Plan for the next 6 years was discussed in January attempts were made to rezone a lot more land for housing despite the glut of houses in the county and in the face of planners' advice.

    How did the Strandhill councillors react?
    • Healy McGowan, O'Grady, as ever, supported rezoning.
    • McLoughlin stole away before the votes were taken.
    • Henry, McGarry did not bother to attend a key meeting.
    • MacManus not only supported rezoning but seconded one of the motions.This is a man who wants "a housing policy based on housing need not speculators’ greed"
    :confused:
    Only Bree stood out for sustainable and rational planning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Essexboy wrote: »
    Look at the bigger picture. Do councillors support the common good or the interests of developers and speculators?
    When the County Plan for the next 6 years was discussed in January attempts were made to rezone a lot more land for housing despite the glut of houses in the county and in the face of planners' advice.

    How did the Strandhill councillors react?
    • Healy McGowan, O'Grady, as ever, supported rezoning.
    • McLoughlin stole away before the votes were taken.
    • Henry, McGarry did not bother to attend a key meeting.
    • MacManus not only supported rezoning but seconded one of the motions.This is a man who wants "a housing policy based on housing need not speculators’ greed"
    :confused:
    Only Bree stood out for sustainable and rational planning.

    I think you'll find that the regeneration project in Cranmore is a big picture. He was all in favor of all of the regen plans including the bridge when it suite him (come election time) so he got his votes. Then once it came down to it, he told bareface lies to the people he was supposed to represent after doing a U turn. He can fuck right off as far as I'm concerned. Bigger picture or not, he's a crooked politician.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭jajjay


    Dep Perry holding a press conference in Sligo tomorrow re cancer services is SGH...... one wonders what will he have to say.... bad news I expect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    Can't imagine it'd be anything else tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,012 ✭✭✭Plazaman


    Even if he turned around and said Cancer Services would be restored by the end of the year, according to one of the Chiefs in SGH, it would take up to another 2 years to recruit the specialists back to the Hospital that they need as they transferred elsewhere when services were removed.

    Perry's press conference will be a masterclass in blustering and bullshítery. He'll probably collaspe as he'll try to do the conference in one take without a breath. I was in the audience when he was interviewed on Moncrieff and after a long monologue, when they went to an ad break, Moncrieff says to him "Jesus John, do you breath through your ears?". V Funny.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭jajjay


    Press Conference is on in Sligo Park Hotel @ 2pm!

    Anyone going????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Wonder what tripe he had to say


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    No sign of an update from his waffleathon yet.

    EDIT: Scrap that

    Blah blah waffle waffle

    http://www.oceanfm.ie/article/Minister-Perry-fails-to-announce-full-restoration-of-breast-cancer-services-to-Sligo-General-Hospital/
    Minister of State John Perry has failed to announce the full restoration of breast cancer service to Sligo General Hospital

    During a press conference in the Sligo Park hotel this afternoon the Fine Gael TD announced that the government will restore mammography services in the fourth quarter of this year.

    He says the recruitment of two mammographers is also underway along with 2 medical oncologists.

    He says Sligo General Hospital will be one of the centres for colorectal screening which will be launched next year.

    Minister John Perry delivering the announcement to 40 or so people and the media in attendance this afternoon
    However Minister Perry was heckled by some those in attendance who say he has failed in his commitments outlined before the general election.

    Under questioning by the media this afternoon Minister Perry also admitted it was a mistake to give a 100 day commitment.

    Cancer campaigner told the Minister that he is only giving them ‘crumbs’ today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Essexboy


    Recruitment for the second oncologist is already under way http://www.hse.ie/eng/staff/jobs/Medical_Dental/Archive/8066.html so he is dressing up old news as new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    Mammography Services to be restored! This I would have expected to be already in place with no hint of it ever being removed.

    So we dont even have the early diagnostic facilities let alone the facility to treat in place?

    :mad::mad::mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24 Hungry Rock


    So what happens now Minister Perry?????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭shanec1928


    So what happens now Minister Perry?????
    he will be on shortly for a personal response:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    (tumbleweed)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭dardevle


    ...



    think he hung up:rolleyes:




    ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭jajjay


    Never Voted FG in my life, but did last time on the promises of Perry regarding Cancer Services in SGH mainly.

    To say I'm absolutely disgusted in him, would be an understatement!

    Bad as the last shower were in power..... this crowd are no better & I will include the local senators in that!

    Was up at the Sligo Park Hotel today waiting for his arrival. The Hotel had a Red Carpet out for a later wedding in the day, Perry thought it was for him - until he seen RTE/TV3 + numerous other photographers waiting in the wings - driver then diverted to a more private area from him to embark from his black merc!

    Was not impressed by the security man he had placed on the door stating that it was a press conference and only open to the press??? FFS All the cancer support group/local councillors etc etc were being prevented fom entering - at this stage, tempors were high - security man seeked advice from inside and thankfully they were let in!

    Personally, I think it was an absolute disgrace the way the Sligo Cancer Support Group, the public and the councillors who were told that it was none of their business because they were not from the area. One was a SF Cllr from Bundoran Mick Mc Mahon, now when did Bundoran become not to be serviced by SGH? Does Perry want all Bundoran/Ballyshannon women to go to Derry for Cancer services?

    John Perry, if you read this - you should now realise that you should resign from the position that you had the good fortune of obtaining after being elected on false promises in the general election. Resign and return to your Shops/Hotel/Funeral Directors and give he job to someone who could actualy deliver for Sligo Cancer Services.

    And to end this RANT! I feel so embarrassed that I actually gave him a Number 1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    So what happens now Minister Perry?????
    Hardly worth its own thread. One sentence? Is that all you have to contribute?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭jajjay


    Fingers, if you propose to delete thread, maybe you could merge it with the other thread re this issue... I gave up an hour and a half today to be able to write my post.... such a waste of mytime! not sure if you are a mod on this forum, its just a sugestion anyway


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    'Perry hangs up live on Radio over cancer services'/'John Perry TD, 100 Day's are up' Threads Merged.

    Similar content


    ;)
    jajjay wrote: »
    Fingers, if you propose to delete thread, maybe you could merge it with the other thread re this issue... I gave up an hour and a half today to be able to write my post.... such a waste of mytime! not sure if you are a mod on this forum, its just a sugestion anyway

    Please use report posts if you think they require attention from the Mods jajjay.

    ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭Buford T Justice


    jajjay wrote: »
    Fingers, if you propose to delete thread, maybe you could merge it with the other thread re this issue... I gave up an hour and a half today to be able to write my post.... such a waste of mytime! not sure if you are a mod on this forum, its just a sugestion anyway

    Me no moddie no, but just so you know, my comment wasn't directed at you're post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 95 ✭✭jajjay


    Fingers, wires / msges must have crossed somewhere along the line! Our thoughts are v simular.

    Thanks Irish Stew for merging these threads!!

    I must add that I am new to this crack, so if you feel that I am out of line..etc, let me know!

    Rgds
    j


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