Irish Backpackers working in Sydney brothels????

notwise

Was having a conversation with a ozzie nurse recently who was working in an STD clinic in Sydney. When I told her I was Irish, she told me that lots of their patients tend to be female Irish and English backpackers. More shockingly, she told me that many of them have been working in Sydney brothels to earn the money to keep them in Oz. She said that many of them come in really distressed as people that they know from home have found out how they earn their money but they do it as they are so desperate to stay but can't get work. I have been living in Sydney now for two years and have never ever come across this!! Has anyone else?

chin_grin

Hearsay and conjecture are forms of evidence your honour.

jimthemental

Thank fúck, I thought I was going to have to work in a bar when I go over.

Guill

I was chatting Jimmy the Buck the other day, he told me that all people that leave Ireland are doomed to hell for eternity. Must be true!

mfceiling

Come across.....good one OP...

Poor Uncle Tom

/that sucks

Ghandee

notwise wrote: »

Was having a conversation with a ozzie nurse recently who was working in an STD clinic in Sydney. When I told her I was Irish, she told me that lots of their patients tend to be female Irish and English backpackers. More shockingly, she told me that many of them have been working in Sydney brothels to earn the money to keep them in Oz. She said that many of them come in really distressed as people that they know from home have found out how they earn their money but they do it as they are so desperate to stay but can't get work. I have been living in Sydney now for two years and have never ever come across this!! Has anyone else?

Are you saying in 2 years you've never met an Irish person in a brothel in Sydney OP?
Visit them much?
How much is it these days for a suck and a fück?

Opelfruit

Waltzing chlamydia, waltzing chlamydia,
You'll come a waltzing chlamydia with me.

smash

notwise wrote: »

I have been living in Sydney now for two years and have never ever come across this!! Has anyone else?

Try a different brothel?

notwise

Never visited one!

chin_grin

notwise wrote: »

Never visited one!

I don't think "visit" is the right verb to use here. Visit an elderly relative: yes. Visit a brothel...............no.

whydoibother?

I don't know what these girls choose to do when they get there, but it's certainly not necessary. I landed in Sydney at the height of the recession and still got a reasonable number of responses to job applications. I wasn't being very fussy - just basic admin. etc, but there was certainly no need to resort to that. :pac:

Kevin Duffy

Not that I frequent these places, far from it, but if I travelled that far and had to pay to roide an Irish burd, I'd be very disappointed. Very.

notwise

Yeah I was pretty much the same. Loads of work when I arrived in 09 and still seems to be. I don't know if she was exaggerating or what, but I can't see it being a really common thing without it being widely known among the irish community over here.

Solair

That story sounds a tad unlikely to be perfectly honest.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the English and Irish visitors to Aus were living it up and picking up all sorts of bugs en route.

These stories tend to grow legs very rapidly.

mattjack

you should out the the amount of Austrailian nurses working in brothels in Dublin.......not that I,ve ever visited.......

iamwhoiam

I think you will find far more Irish in the call centres than in brothels .The call centres love the Irish as the understand the accent .

unbeat

wish it was true so i could lol a genuine lol.
but no its more of a ffs what a load of b.s lol.
so pics or gtfo.

mikom

Put another prozzie on the barby.

number10a

- Irish girl arrives in clap clinic.
- Gets chatty with nurse.
- Has a laugh about "whoring around".
- Aussie picks up the word "whoring" the wrong way.
- Cue exaggeration and rumors causing this to show up on the cover of the Daily Mail next week.

unbeat

number10a wrote: »

- Irish girl arrives in clap clinic.
- Gets chatty with nurse.
- Has a laugh about "whoring around".
- Aussie picks up the word "whoring" the wrong way.
- Cue exaggeration and rumors causing this to show up on the cover of the Daily Mail next week.

IRISH STUDENTS IN AUSSIE BROTHEL SHOCK.

insert 'down under' pun and quotes from an 'unnamed doctor'.
parents are devastated, think of the children etc etc.

Nodin

unbeat wrote: »

IRISH STUDENTS IN AUSSIE BROTHEL SHOCK.

'CAILINS IN CALL-GIRL CLAP TRAP'

frag420

Wonder if there is a paddy discount............

for the lads ya know

conorhal

NAaaa, they just 'claimed' to work in a brothel to lend some legitimacy to their plight and cover up the embarrasment about what catastrophic cock sluts they've been during their their 'gap' year.... :pac:

ScumLord

Them dirty paddies, they're all whores and they spread TB.

Solair

In my experience of Aussis they're just a tiny bit xenophobic too.

Snowie

an irish girl sleep with men for money hmmmm nah ,,,, sure you cant even say hi to some of them with getting looked a like she just taken a bite out of lemon :pac:

I call shenanigans

lezza

syndey sex ftw

CardBordWindow

Solair wrote: »

That story sounds a tad unlikely to be perfectly honest.

However, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the English and Irish visitors to Aus were living it up and picking up all sorts of bugs en route.

These stories tend to grow legs very rapidly.

Yes, grow legs that open for money!

Red Hand

unbeat wrote: »

IRISH STUDENTS IN AUSSIE BROTHEL SHOCK.

insert 'down under' pun and quotes from an 'unnamed doctor'.
parents are devastated, think of the children etc etc.

Nodin wrote: »

'CAILINS IN CALL-GIRL CLAP TRAP'

"I seen it, Joe! On the front pages of two papers, Joe! It's an absolute disgrace!"

Ricardo G

Yes apparantly the Irish girls are advertising heavily in all phonebox's in Sydney

goose2005

Nodin wrote: »

'CAILINS IN CALL-GIRL CLAP TRAP'

DINGOS PIMPED MY BABY

parker kent

It was bound to happen. Most Australian states legalized prostitution with some reasonable restrictions (street walkers etc).

Also, this is not a "new" thing. It has been alleged before. For example, read this article from 2006.

Irish girls funding Australian trips by turning to prostitution
Australian brothels are hiring Irish students who are lured by the huge money to be made in the country's legal sex industry
Jennifer Fitzgerald
BACKPACKING in Australia is like a right of passage for many college graduates, their chance to go wild one last time before settling into a career back home. But, with little money saved and all inhibitions aside, some Irish students are now funding their Australian adventure by entering into prostitution.

The Sunday Tribune has learned that brothels across Australia are hiring young Irish girls to work as prostitutes while they are on holiday. Of 20 brothels contacted, the majority said they were hiring Irish girls under the age of 25, while all but one brothel said they knew where to find them. A Perth brothel called Club 316 said it had three Irish girls working there while on holiday, and Langtrees brothel, in the same city, had at least one Irish backpacker rostered on the evening it was contacted. The night manager at the Black Cat brothel in the heart of Sydney's red light district said it had five Irish girls rostered to work last Friday morning, and was charging clients $350 ( 210) for their one-hour service.

Kate (not her real name), a student from Co Galway, told the Sunday Tribune about her own experience working in Sydney's red light district. For Kate and her Irish friends (all in their early 20s), the neon lights of the notorious King's Cross were enticing. The area is full of hostels, Irish pubs, and late night bars, making it a favourite spot for Irish backpackers.

This part of Sydney is also considered the city's sleaziest district, packed to the brim with adult entertainment, and with brothels dotted along many of its streets, especially Darlinghurst Road.

The brothels here are quick to hire Irish visitors, since these girls have no strings attached.

According to Australia's Sex Workers' Assistance Guide (Swag), many brothels prefer girls who have "no jealous boyfriends" and are drugfree.

Young Irish students often arrive in Australia with little money, making them ripe for recruitment. Even though the Australian government legalised prostitution in the early 1980s, "it is still not necessary for prostitutes to register themselves", said Janelle Fawkes, manager of the Scarlet Alliance, Australia's state-funded sex workers' association. Fawkes said that, because of this, Irish students could get "cash in hand, upfront, before servicing their client".

After finishing her studies in Ireland, Kate travelled to Australia with enough money to get by but, after a number of good nights out and with rent to pay, she and her friends needed to find work. As English-speakers, it was easy for them to find employment in the hospitality industry and many got jobs as waitresses. Money for rent and food was not a problem, but the wages were not sufficient to fund their travels across Australia and onward to a few other world destinations before heading home.

Because they were spending many of their nights in late bars . . . "the only place to get drink after 3am, " said Kate . . . it wasn't long before she discovered how much money the escorts in these bars were earning.

"It seemed too good to pass up, " she said. "We could get more than $50 ( 30) for a lap dance, plus commission if they were spending a lot on drink, which could be another $150 ( 90)."

Many strippers in Australia have testified that strip clubs are the route to prostitution, and for Kate it was no different.

"We used to strip in front of clients for about 30 minutes, then the client would choose which one of the girls he preferred."

Even with the girls paying $100 ( 60) per client to use a room at the brothel, they were still clearing a large amount of cash each night. According to the Australian Institute of Criminology (AIC), prostitution is one of the country's highest-paid professions for women.

Over 75% of prostitutes in an AIC study earned as much as the highest 9% of Australians. "Some days we made more than $1,000 ( 600), for only a four-hour shift, " said Kate, adding that some men would not even require intercourse. "I had a couple of regular clients that would hand me $300 for just fulfilling some strange fetish they had. A lot of other men were unfulfilled at home. They were often married."

Even though Irish students are pleased to make vast amounts of money, AIC statistics state that in order to cope in this environment, girls will regularly turn to drugs. Kate says she was determined to stay out of this culture, and because of this, men would pay more for her services.

For the most part, she said she was treated well by men, but admits there is a dark side to the business and that some men could become obsessed.

"It could be scary at times. Some men would regularly ask where I lived and if they could get my home number. I insisted on keeping my life and work separate."

A number of state-run services are available in Australia to assist women in prostitution who are being treated poorly by clients or brothels.

Fawkes, of the Scarlet Alliance, said Irish girls can get support from her group for any mistreatment.

"We have a lot of Irish girls who come to us for assistance, " she said. "Some of these girls may have industrial concerns; they may want to improve their work conditions or they could have faced unfair dismissal. We will do all we can to make sure these girls are not discriminated against."

Fawkes claims that by decriminalising prostitution, the stigma attached to the industry is lessened. "Irish girls will find it much easier to come to us for help than they would back home.

Because it's criminalised in Ireland, young girls are having to live a double life, they are living a secret. Here we can provide girls with a safer working environment. We can provide girls with GPs that have an understanding of their situation."

Contrary to what groups campaigning for the abolition of prostitution have said, Fawkes insists that the decriminalisation of prostitution had not caused an increase in the industry in Australia. She said that the environment is safe and that the risk of HIV was lower among prostitutes than the general public, because "condoms are so widely available".

The brothels themselves also stand by this claim. The Planet brothel in Melbourne, which employs Irish girls, states on its website that "in the entire history of the establishment, there has not been one report of infection . . . STD or otherwise". This brothel also said that it doesn't tolerate sex without "condoms and/or dental dams".

Kate agrees that the brothel in which she worked was reasonably safe. There was a large red buzzer beside the bed and burly bouncers on hand if there was any trouble, she said. But, looking back, she admits that her situation was not ideal. "Nobody wants to have sex with three or four strangers a day and we would get some bizarre men."

Despite Kate's claims about being unaffected by her experiences, Geraldine Rowley of Ruhama, the Irish organisation which works with women involved in prostitution, said that there are longterm psychological effects linked to prostitution. "There is research that makes a direct link to post-traumatic stress disorder. Even if prostitution is legal in Australia, there is still a stigma attached to it, and there remains an element of secrecy."

She warns Irish backpackers against entering into prostitution, saying it is "a difficult lifestyle to escape. There are financial and emotional ties. Prostitution is intertwined with money. This money can become addictive. They can make a lot of money, but they don't know when their next pay cheque will be."

Rowley is adamant that decriminalising prostitution is not the way forward. "It is only making businessmen out of pimps, " she said. "They are still exploiting women." She disagrees with Fawkes' comment that prostitution in Australia had not increased, and insists the government and brothel owners there are supporting a billion-dollar industry. After prostitution was legalised in Australia in the '80s, the number of brothels increased from 40 to 94 over the following decade.

And, according to Australia's Coalition Against Trafficking in Women, there has been an "explosion of sexual exploitation in the industry".

Still, Australian brothel owners maintain their establishments are professionally run, and that they take pride in maintaining the highest standards possible. There are even Australian Adult Industry Awards (AAIA) that are held every year to boost a brothel's reputation and gain extra publicity, while professional websites are also available. Websites by the Black Cat in Sydney, and the 'six-star' brothel The Boardroom in Melbourne, provide men with complete tours of their rooms and offer names and descriptions of the women available. Advertisements for the Irish students appearing on the website of Club 316 run along the lines of 'Absolutely beautiful brunette with amazing eyes. She is 19 years old, has waist-length hair and light complexion. Available Thursday, Friday and Saturday evenings.'

Men would then request to see the girls in person before deciding on who they want for the hour.

But no matter how safe these brothels claim to be, Ruhama's Geraldine Rowley says there is always an element of risk involved for the girls.

"Among sex workers, there are still underlying anxieties, such as trying to keep the job a secret, and worrying about getting a disease or becoming pregnant, " she said.

There is also the threat of being raped, beaten up or even murdered, as one Irish prostitute in a Ruhama study pointed out. "Most of the time, they [the men] had such charm that you'd think they were genuine, just going for the sex, " she said.

"And then the slightest, simplest thing and their personalities would change. Some girls had regular clients for years and they'd suddenly change."

Kate described Sydney's red light district as safe for the most part, but said, "If you look for trouble, you'll find it." The culture of Australia is vastly different to Ireland's, she said. "Even in the pubs of the Outback, you would find girls ready to take their top off for money. They were called Skimpy Girls. Prostitutes are much more accepted there. It's a very macho culture."

https://www.tribune.ie/article/2006/aug/13/irish-girls-funding-australian-trips-by-turning-to/

niallam

Be slightly embarrassing if you finally built up the courage to go to a brothel in Australia thinking you couldn't possibly be further from home and no one will ever find out and there's little red haired Mary from down the road back home spread across a bed for ya

nxbyveromdwjpg

This rubbish has been desperate tabloid fodder about for years, bollocks it is

parker kent

nm wrote: »

This rubbish has been desperate tabloid fodder about for years, bollocks it is

I'd be extremely surprised were Irish girls not working as prostitutes there. I'm not saying they are the majority of sex workers, but it is naive to think otherwise.

Nodin

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

"I seen it, Joe! On the front pages of two papers, Joe! It's an absolute disgrace!"

'As a brasser, Joe.....'

LETHAL LADY

Reuben Big Catfish wrote: »

If Im payin for sex she sure as hell better not be Irish.

Cein fath?:p

lumpy10

its a common known fact that native austrailians hate the irish immigrants the same way the irish hate the polish, latvian etc..... so of course an austrailian nurse is gona say **** like this!

Disleksic

I wonder if any of them have the familiar West of Ireland surname Hoare?

Headline in Roscommon Champion:

HOARES WORKING IN SYDNEY BROTHEL.

enfant terrible

lumpy10 wrote: »

its a common known fact that native austrailians hate the irish immigrants the same way the irish hate the polish, latvian etc..... so of course an austrailian nurse is gona say **** like this!

Or more likely a small amount of Irish girls are working as escorts.

waterfordgirl

Jeremiah 16:1 wrote: »

"I seen it, Joe! On the front pages of two papers, Joe! It's an absolute disgrace!"

sooo true!! and if I don't hear the show, my mother will give me all the info. later on in the day!!! *sigh* I need to get to Oz!!!

retalivity

that article cant even spell

its a right of passage, rite?

Jumpy

lumpy10 wrote: »

its a common known fact that native austrailians hate the irish immigrants the same way the irish hate the polish, latvian etc..... so of course an austrailian nurse is gona say **** like this!

So common that I as a native Australian have never heard of it.

You guys bring more money to the country than you take away so why on earth would we hate you?

ALSO THERE IS NO I AFTER THE A. PLIZZ MEMBER THIS. KTHX

Zebra3

notwise wrote: »

Was having a conversation with a ozzie nurse recently who was working in an STD clinic in Sydney. When I told her I was Irish, she told me that lots of their patients tend to be female Irish and English backpackers. More shockingly, she told me that many of them have been working in Sydney brothels to earn the money to keep them in Oz. She said that many of them come in really distressed as people that they know from home have found out how they earn their money but they do it as they are so desperate to stay but can't get work. I have been living in Sydney now for two years and have never ever come across this!! Has anyone else?

If that's what they wanna do, so what?

James T Kirk

All the way to Australia to pull a handle out of Alf Ramsey's stomach?

This is an outrage!

Jumpy

James T Kirk wrote: »

All the way to Australia to pull a handle out of Alf Ramsey's stomach?

This is an outrage!

GET THA PRIME MINISTAH!

mandrake04

It's true Irish girls working in Brothels, also massage (Rub n tug), magazine's and Internet porn sites like Abbey Winters.

Doc

lumpy10 wrote: »

its a common known fact that native austrailians hate the irish immigrants the same way the irish hate the polish, latvian etc..... so of course an austrailian nurse is gona say **** like this!

Bull****

Leftist

lumpy10 wrote: »

its a common known fact that native austrailians hate the irish immigrants the same way the irish hate the polish, latvian etc..... so of course an austrailian nurse is gona say **** like this!

yeah right, nice try.

mandrake04

lumpy10 wrote: »

its a common known fact that native austrailians hate the irish immigrants the same way the irish hate the polish, latvian etc..... so of course an austrailian nurse is gona say **** like this!

2 posts and you come out with crap like that, what did you get banned for last time?