* Construction Studies * Predictions, discussion and aftermath (1 thread please)

terryincork

Havnt seen a thread about it..roughly 5 days to go..loads of time to get a lot of work done!

Anyone got tips/predictions etc post em here

Gumbi

Yes, please!

terryincork

Gumbi wrote: »

Yes, please!

If Trevor is online at anytime please do pop in and post your predictions!

C__

Well obviously enough 2 drawings possibly one on a roof or timber frame house
U values
Plumbing of some sort
Planning permission Q

Trev64

terryincork wrote: »

If Trevor is online at anytime please do pop in and post your predictions!

Hello all,
Listen in to 2fm tonight (Friday 17th) 7pm - I'll be in studio talking exam technique, tips etc... if you miss it listen back to the podcast: feed://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_countdownto806.xml
Best of luck,
Trevor

t9106

Well I would bet that U-Values are coming up because they come up every year apparently but anyone have any ideas about what stuff to look over or ignore?

shanecoleman

Mr Trevor Hickey is talking about building construction tonight (Friday 17th) on countdown to 806 on 2fm at 7pm

Whiskey757

Trev64 wrote: »

Hello all,
Listen in to 2fm tonight (Friday 17th) 7pm - I'll be in studio talking exam technique, tips etc... if you miss it listen back to the podcast: feed://www.rte.ie/radio1/podcast/podcast_countdownto806.xml
Best of luck,
Trevor

Listening now

t9106

I heard him say something about an airproof membrane. I've never heard of that. Is it something that should be included in the drawing questions?

UL

Does anyone know where I could find some notes for the theory? My teacher was pretty useless and didn't give us much notes.

J_E

Here is a good place to start.

Trev64

t9106 wrote: »

I heard him say something about an airproof membrane. I've never heard of that. Is it something that should be included in the drawing questions?

Download the handout on 'airtightness' from www.constructionstudies.ie

In concrete cavity walls the plaster is the airtightness barrier; in timber frame it's a plastic membrane under the plasterboard. Either way, show it as a blue line in your sketches/ drawings.

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

You may refer to it as DPM and it's drawn in red not blue! DPC is drawn in blue.

Trev64

THFC wrote: »

You may refer to it as DPM and it's drawn in red not blue! DPC is drawn in blue.

This comment is not accurate. The writer is confused. Look up the 'Acceptable Construction Details 2008'... damp proof membranes/ courses are always shown as red, airtightness membranes/ barriers are shown in blue.

You can download the ACD2008 on the department of the environment's website (www.environ.ie) or on www.constructionstudies.ie

J_E

Chances of a timber framed wall coming up as opposed to concrete? I'll probably learn both just in case.

Trev64

Cydoniac wrote: »

Chances of a timber framed wall coming up as opposed to concrete? I'll probably learn both just in case.

As Q1? Doubt it, but you never know. I would certainly know TF for Q7.

C__

Anyone want to throw up the tips for those who missed it

mihaf

good chance fothe the following .
drg q1 , any thing to do with the wall and window frame ( MAYBE CONC CAVITY WALL WITH HEAD AND CILL DETAIL.
other qns ,
u -value
WATER SYSTEM , PIPES , TOILET SEURAGE SYSTEM.
air tightness
health and safety on site
sound
light ( house oreantation , passive house , measuring light in a room or some thin.
electricty , BER
RESTORATION OF HOUSE

Q7 DRG OPTIONAL MAY BE FOUNDATIONS , PILE FOUNDATION

Dongl

I'm looking at

Revise drawings to cover Q1 and Q7

Passive design notes and past paper schemes to cover Q10

Locating of a house + enviromental impact to cover Q6

Pray that Wheelchair access, foundations or water system come up in the remaining 5. Electricity I might be able to bluff with HL physics.

C__MC

Did trevor recommend doing 2006 q1 or 2005 q1 on 2fm the other night??

terryincork

bumping this for more predictions!

C__

I think the Part B for U-value will be find the thickness or conductivity one.

galwayman17..

its a nice question nonetheless!

galwayman17..

Dongl wrote: »

I'm looking at

Revise drawings to cover Q1 and Q7

Passive design notes and past paper schemes to cover Q10

Locating of a house + enviromental impact to cover Q6

Pray that Wheelchair access, foundations or water system come up in the remaining 5. Electricity I might be able to bluff with HL physics.

im learning sound chapter also man. it may cme up and the legend himself trevor hickey said it would be worth taking a look at on countdown to 806.

terryincork

What are people predicting for Q1??

galwayman17..

what im learning is a foundation,floor, wall, window and roof on one drawing and a wheelchair accesible door with ramp (show slope in degrees) and then also another drawing including a fireplace. i think it will be fine and besides, the last 3 years of question nly asked for 4 dimensions. any person studying construction should be able to name atleast 6!:D

Griffen262

galwayman17.. wrote: »

im learning sound chapter also man. it may cme up and the legend himself trevor hickey said it would be worth taking a look at on countdown to 806.

SLLLUUURRRP!!! *







*Galwayman17...such a fecking lick..

galwayman17..

haha i can say ALOT of things about you griffen! how you fixed for this exam?

DM360

galwayman17.. wrote: »

what im learning is a foundation,floor, wall, window and roof on one drawing and a wheelchair accesible door with ramp (show slope in degrees) and then also another drawing including a fireplace. i think it will be fine and besides, the last 3 years of question nly asked for 4 dimensions. any person studying construction should be able to name atleast 6!:D

Doing the exact same. Might glance at the chimney detail but door with ramp/threshold would be lovely.

Airtightness might be one to look at aswell for one of the other questions

galwayman17..

DM360 wrote: »

Doing the exact same. Might glance at the chimney detail but door with ramp/threshold would be lovely.

Airtightness might be one to look at aswell for one of the other questions

ya actually forgot about that but would the window slightly integrate with that question no?

citizen_p

anyone wanna PM me the E-xamit codes for sample answers?
maybe just for 2008 and 2007...

terryincork

Mousey- wrote: »

anyone wanna PM me the E-xamit codes for sample answers?
maybe just for 2008 and 2007...

examinations.ie

marking schemes..2008..2007..

profit????

aramush

I really need to study for this test tomorrow but Niland is playing in the tennis.

Someone, somewhere is f*cking me over on purpose.

J_E

aramush wrote: »

I really need to study for this test tomorrow but Niland is playing in the tennis.

Someone, somewhere is f*cking me over on purpose.

Record it and sacrifice one day. Either watch tennis the day after or do the exam the year after, which sounds more appealing

Irish Hitman

havent opened a book for construction since easter....boy am i ****ed! and economics tomorow!!

UGh..

aramush

Cydoniac wrote: »

Record it and sacrifice one day. Either watch tennis the day after or do the exam the year after, which sounds more appealing

I made my choice, I stand by it :P

dillo2k10

What do we have to bring with us to the exam tomorrow?

Griffen262

dillo2k10 wrote: »

What do we have to bring with us to the exam tomorrow?

Im assuming you dont do DCG, so..

T-square and drawing board(school will most likely supply them and you can use the table aswel instead of the drawing board)
Set squares- 60/30 degree and a 45 degree(You bring them in yourself)
2H pencil normally
Colouring pencils (red-DPC, Blue-airtightness membranes/barriers etc)
Scale Rule if you have/know how to use one..or just a calculater will do
Just your usual pencil case belongings then, rubber etc..

Probably left out something..

terryincork

Griffen262 wrote: »

Colouring pencils (red-DPC, Blue-airtightness membranes/barriers etc)
Scale Rule if you have/know how to use one..or just a calculater will do
Just your usual pencil case belongings then, rubber etc..

Probably left out something..

Id better go get a new pack of condoms so..








:pac:

Griffen262

terryincork wrote: »

Id better go get a new pack of condoms so..








:pac:

Haha!...You can get quite frustrated with them construction drawings, in more ways than one

UL

I'm mostly sorted for construction tomorrow but the only question Im not prepared for is Question 1, the drawing. I'm wondering, is there specific measurements for most things in drawings such as foundations, roof structures etc.?

J_E

I think they look for 4 specific dimensions then mark the rest on labels and scale.

UL

Ok thanks, so if I got most of the drawing to look fairly ok, and got lets say 6 dimensions correct I should be on for full marks?

J_E

Yeah, and make sure the rest of it looks right. Label everything, give points of information, do everything so they have an opportunity to give you the marks.

UL

Cool Thanks a million, I best go study. Thanks again!

DanielGibbons

How likely is it that stairs will come up in the drawing question?

Griffen262

DanielGibbons wrote: »

How likely is it that stairs will come up in the drawing question?

I didn't really think much about studying the stairs drawing, but when I looked back on the exam papers, it has come up in Q7 in 2010 and 2008, So maybe it might make an appearance in Q1?....Or maybe the question would be too easy as a Q1 drawing...and thus probably wont come up again in Q7 because it came up last year. Your call if you want to learn it, but have a short look over it anyway!

DanielGibbons

Griffen262 wrote: »

I didn't really think much about studying the stairs drawing, but when I looked back on the exam papers, it has come up in Q7 in 2010 and 2008, So maybe it might make an appearance in Q1?....Or maybe the question would be too easy as a Q1 drawing...and thus probably wont come up again in Q7 because it came up last year. Your call if you want to learn it, but have a short look over it anyway!

Cheers man!

Whiskey757

Alright, seriously unorganized and don't really know what's going on, but:

I'll do Q1, look over drawings of basically all the walls. That includes windows and ****

Q5 U value. Easy.

Q7 Another drawing question. What else can they ask other than the walls, roof, stairs?

Water question. Does this come up every year? My teacher said it didn't come up last year but there was uproar so can I be safe with studying that?

Then one other. What else is sure to come up?

So, is everything I said here correct and/or does it seem like a good plan?



EDIT: By the way, what are the 'dimensions' for Q1?

UL

Whiskey757 wrote: »

EDIT: By the way, what are the 'dimensions' for Q1?

I'd like to know the dimensions too, really stuck on that

J_E

Whiskey757 wrote: »

Q7 Another drawing question. What else can they ask other than the walls, roof, stairs?

Could be fireplace, door maybe? Window could be combined with roof too if that comes up, or a lean-to with a wall.
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You should know the original dimensions, then divide those by whatever scale you're using, i.e if the base of the foundation is 900, and the scale is 1:5, you measure 180.