Irish Women in History and some History Threads

CDfm

I hope I am not being too cheeky posting here but recently I have spent a fair bit of time posting on the History & Heritage Forum.

I recently started some threads on the theme of Women as well for some its almost a surprise what the history is . So I themed up one called "Comely Maidens" on a DeValera misquote and another on "Nuns" as Irish nuns were an underground movement during the penal laws and went global -hugely influential at home & abroad.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056265715

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056297784

As an example, a few months ago we did a gay irish history thread which avoided cliches and stereotypes.With history it is often best to reference and let the historical facts do the talking rather than get into ideological debates.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056206669

So I am hoping people can add to the threads

Thanks

CD

Silverfish

Thanks CDfm, I have been reading those threads, it's very interesting stuff,

Nhead

CDfm just wanted to say that it is great you are bringing up topics that aren't looked at enough!!

CDfm

Thanks.

My fave has to be Hanna Sheehy-Skeffington who was much more than Conor Cruise O'Briens cranky aunt.Widow of the weingfully executed Francus, her post rising campaign single handedly changed negative public opinion on the 1916 Rising. A crucial & pivotal role in Independence and as important as any of the leaders.

We discussed her on a 1916 looting thread here from post 117 on

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056252706&page=8

She was the real deal.

Sibylla

Excellent thread CDfm, To be honest I wasn't aware there was an active history and heritage forum on boards.

The life of Hannah Sheehy Skeffington is a worthy topic, I did my leaving cert project on the sufragettes and their story is incredibly interesting. Not many people remember her roles in founding the Irish Women's Franchise League and the Irish Women's Workers Union.

CDfm

Corkwomen had the edge

You might like this thread and from post 8 on you have Nurse O'Farrell who negotiated the 1916 Surrender.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056161709

Not surprising that Irishwomen were hands on - Nano Nagle got active during the Penal Times when doing what she was doing was highly illegal.

metrovelvet

I think its interesting there are no statues of these ladies on O'Connell Street.

Between this and the Magdalene Laundries thread, Ireland is in need of a woman's history museum.

mollybird

ya i def had an eye opener in my second last year in college working on a piece on irish women in the workforce. I learned that my grandmother who is just turned 92 would have been dev's secratery next to kathleen o connell who was her aunt ( my grandmother being mairin o connell) if she had not married my grandad (due to the marraige law) her niece marie, took over the role. my family ( the o connell's) have a long history it seems in this country. Tess (teresa o connell) my mothers great aunt was held in kilmanham for hinding guns for dev.

sorry folks really can't find any more distinctive info on my family history. if ye can get your hands on the latest dev book that was released bout 3 years ago you will get more answers. a very good book i'm told by my mum and gran. xx

premierlass

Mollybird, I was at a conference on Dev a few years ago and Marie O'Kelly gave a great talk on her years as Dev's secretary. She and her aunt did Trojan work (and Kathleen O'Connell managed to keep Dev's papers intact while on the run during the Civil War, no small feat) but reading between the lines of what she said I gathered that he made a lot of demands on her time, etc. It was said by someone else, maybe Peadar O'Donnell, that he overworked them and took them for granted. I don't think that was necessarily down to their being women, by the way - Harry Boland complained of similar treatment.

baby and crumble

Dunno if people are interested, but I ran a project that collected oral histories of people with intellectual disabilities across Ireland. Most of the storytellers are women, and they have some interesting stories about every day life, but also about living in a matriarchal environment (women with id living and being looked after by Nuns, etc.) back in the institutions when things were even grimmer than they are here now (if anyone saw last nights Prime Time, then you'll know what I mean!)

Anyway, here's the link to the archive: " A Story to Tell"

jonniebgood1

CDfm wrote: »

I hope I am not being too cheeky posting here but recently I have spent a fair bit of time posting on the History & Heritage Forum.

I recently started some threads on the theme of Women as well for some its almost a surprise what the history is . So I themed up one called "Comely Maidens" on a DeValera misquote and another on "Nuns" as Irish nuns were an underground movement during the penal laws and went global -hugely influential at home & abroad.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056265715

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056297784

As an example, a few months ago we did a gay irish history thread which avoided cliches and stereotypes.With history it is often best to reference and let the historical facts do the talking rather than get into ideological debates.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056206669

So I am hoping people can add to the threads

Thanks

CD

I'd Second the invitation from CD. There are actually quite a few topics in common between the 2 boards. Many of the subjects being discussed here (contraception, Magdalene laundaries, etc) can be reviewed historically and have been. Anyone interested in the history of these is welcome to join in.

CDfm

Thanks, for a minute I thought you were going to mention the hassle when I posted about Jayne Mansfield - Olivia Benson's mother

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055964448

CDfm

Just a bit of an update ,there is a discussion thread on the history forum on how to deal with social and political history.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...y#post73375281

New mod etc.

I am always suprised we do not see more women posting

CDfm

Women and 1916, the same names come up, but not these ones whose arms cache was recently discovered and caused mayhem in a Dublin Street.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056363568