Advice

FridaysWell

I am looking to start working out again properly over the summer, trying to train at least everyday and try and eat right too.

Anyways, I am looking to get rid of alot of the fat on my body and I wanted to start off by using some supplements, fat burners and the like.
What I want is to strip the fat, and build muscle/get stronger (I play rugby so this is why I have to be strong)

I was looking at maximuscle promax diet but im not too sure about it.
Are there any alternatives? Any advice about it? In terms of fat burners and protein shakes do they work and what would be ideal for me?

I appretiate any help thanks

marathonic

Maximuscle in general are good products if you've got plenty of money and don't know what to do with it

They're too expensive because you're paying for huge advertising budgets and the brand name.

The cheapest I've seen maximuscle promax diet for is 35 euro from one of the UK suppliers (add delivery to this). They recommend 2 servings a day and there's 20 servings in a tub. That means you'll go through 3 tubs in a month at a cost of 105 euro (+ delivery).

Instead, you should look at some of the bulk suppliers like Bulkpowders.co.uk, Ironscience.co.uk or myProtein.co.uk.

As an example, I went for a bundle from myProtein a while back similar to this http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/lean-gains-bundle. This would last a few months if used correctly.

However, personally, I wouldn't even recommend fat burners. I'd just excercise more, improve my diet and stick with Whey Protein to start with.

A 5kg flavoured bag of this http://www.myprotein.com/ie/products/impact_whey_protein costs €76.24 including delivery. This contains 200 level scoop (25g) servings. You could take one in the morning and one post-workout which would be a total of 41g of protein daily and only 236 calories (which, at the end of the day, is what weight loss is all about).

The myProtein route would end up costing you less than €23 per month as opposed to Maximuscles €110+

Do look at www.ironscience.co.uk too as they work out cheaper if you are placing larger orders, e.g. €200+.

If you decide to go with myProtein, feel free to use my discount code MP289427 which will save you a further 5%.

The Davestator

^^^ great post.

Lombardo86

Agreed. Thanks for the info Marathonic.

I have been in the supplements forum numerous times but find it is more people talking about preferences etc.

What you have done is laid out an example of the supplement, where to get it and an advantage of it.

If there was a list like this in the supplements forum we would be sorted!

Much appreciated.

marathonic

No problem. I think that, with the range of products available (a lot of which are garbage), it's very easy to get confused.

A lot of the time, people will read good reviews about a multitude of products and spend a fortune on supplements that they don't really need (I've been guilty of this myself).

For example, why buy something like NO Explode for pre-workout when you're only starting out weightlifting and simply having a coffee or even a bowl of porrige will be sufficient?

I think that, for most people, if you're new to weightlifting, a protein shake is the only supplement you should even think about. This will help in muscle repair and growth.

After a while, when you are no longer able to increase the weights you are lifting, it may be worthwhile to consider a Creatine Monohydrate supplement as well.

Creatine will add 2-3kg to your bodyweight when you start taking it but don't worry about this - it's mostly water weight and will drop when you stop taking it.

Some people read reviews of creatine and think that, when they start taking it, they'll get hugggee. This is not the case without a lot of work. Think of Creatine as an extra energy source on top of your normal energy sourced from carbs and fat.

Basically, rather than thinking of it as something that will pile on the muscle, think of it as something that will allow you to push out that extra couple of reps on your last set. This in turn, will lead to more muscle eventually.

Again though, I'd not even bother Creatine when starting out. Keep it simple to begin with and maybe order some Creatine when ordering your second batch of Protein.

NotExactly

marathonic wrote: »

I think that, for most people, if you're new to weightlifting, a protein shake is the only supplement you should even think about. This will help in muscle repair and growth.

What about fish oils and multivitamins?

marathonic

NotExactly wrote: »

What about fish oils and multivitamins?

Fish Oils and Multi-Vitamins do have their place and are two additional products that I take. However, in this thread, I'm focusing on supplements that aid with weight training (the ops goals are weight loss and muscle gain) - a category that I wouldn't put fish oil or multi-vitamins under.

Burkatron

FridaysWell wrote: »

I am looking to start working out again properly over the summer, trying to train at least everyday and try and eat right too.

It's great you're starting back training but I think you're jumping waaaay ahead of yourself!

1st of all, what type of training are you doing? You say everyday, is it sustainable. Why no rest days?

2nd, you're trying to eat right, post up your daily eating habits & we'll be able to give advice on it! How long have you been eating like this? How many calories are you aiming for?

FridaysWell wrote: »

Anyways, I am looking to get rid of alot of the fat on my body and I wanted to start off by using some supplements, fat burners and the like.
What I want is to strip the fat, and build muscle/get stronger (I play rugby so this is why I have to be strong)

Why supplements? I thought you were eating well? Why not try & eat clean for a while before you throw your money at unneccesary supplements?

FridaysWell wrote: »

I was looking at maximuscle promax diet but im not too sure about it.
Are there any alternatives? Any advice about it? In terms of fat burners and protein shakes do they work and what would be ideal for me?

As Marathonic pointed out your paying for the brand name. Plenty of cheaper alternatives out there but as I asked before why at this stage?

marathonic wrote: »

For example, why buy something like NO Explode for pre-workout when you're only starting out weightlifting and simply having a coffee or even a bowl of porrige will be sufficient?

Should this logic should not apply to a protein supplement until the OP's diet is sorted?? Upping nutrient intake should be done gradually as training demand increases.

Edit***I just re read this and sound like I'm trying to be a bollox....I'm not, I cant sleep & am in an awful mood & it's coming across...I think

TimeToShine

I really don't think fat burners and other weight loss supplements are something you need unless you're already an active athlete trying to cut down an already very low bodyfat %.

marathonic

Burkatron wrote: »

Should this logic should not apply to a protein supplement until the OP's diet is sorted?? Upping nutrient intake should be done gradually as training demand increases.

Obviously, diet is the number 1 factor - even before training is taken into consideration. However, the OP said that he is eating right and training and the thread is specifically asking for supplement advice.

We could go off on a tangent about diet and training but the OP would be better asking about this on a separate thread if need be and leaving this one for discussion of the original queries.

Just my opinion of course and it wouldn't be the first time a supplement thread goes off in the training and/or diet route or vice versa.