Cormac O hEadhra/ Saturday View RTE

FlutterinBantam

In my opinion this geezer is top class.

Sharp, erudite, doesn't take crap.


Listening to him on RTE1 2200 hrs,.


Sharp fcuker, in my opinion.


Anyone else?

yosser hughes

I agree. I think he's excellent.To think they replaced him for a while there with Claire Byrne!:rolleyes: I actually thought they had given him the elbow.
Glad to see he's back as the show deserves a presenter with a bit of gravitas and Cormac appears to have it.
i normally give out about RTE presenters,justifiably. In this case,credit where it's due.However I can't help but feel that the powers that be just stumble across these things and were happy to replace him with an airhead like Byrne. I hear though she's being lined up to fill in for Marian:eek:
I really don't know what any broadcaster sees in her tbh.

JonathanAnon

I heard him filling in for somebody a while back.. thought he was way too argumentative .. he was like Joe Duffy when a Republican comes on Liveline..

FlutterinBantam

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I heard him filling in for somebody a while back.. thought he was way too argumentative .. he was like Joe Duffy when a Republican comes on Liveline..

No harm in that shhhhurely;)

GSF

A bit too much of the John Humphreys style "finally in 30 seconds explain how you would resolve Irelands debt crisis and bring about Middle East peace"

Opening things up and letting people talk a bit when they genuinely have something worth saying wouldnt hurt.

JonathanAnon

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

No harm in that shhhhurely;)

Well it might have been the case that he was overcompensating, as he would have been the "new boy" filling in.. And I'm sure he didnt want to be seen as an easy touch..

snubbleste

Cormac Ó hEadhra is a far better interviewer on Raidió na Gaeltachta. It could be because he has more time

Red Alert

He was a huge loss to the Late Debate, he always did a brilliant job and didn't let anyone on the panel away with anything. Best of all, he actually knew his stuff inside out and it was clear he'd done his homework. (What the hell were they thinking inflicting ClAirehead Byrne on the public?)

bureau2009

Red Alert wrote: »

(What the hell were they thinking inflicting ClAIRehead Byrne on the public?)

It is one of the most extraordinary mysteries in the entire history of Irish radio.

Rumour has it she will deputise for Marian Finucane over the summer - extraordinary that she could get this gig.

If I were Controller at RTE Radio 1 I would give Rachel English the gig permanently and let Marian Finucane compete for a radio presenter's contract on INDEPENDENT radio...............

TheBorderFox1

FlutterinBantam wrote: »

In my opinion this geezer is top class.

Sharp, erudite, doesn't take crap.


Listening to him on RTE1 2200 hrs,.


Sharp fcuker, in my opinion.


Anyone else?

I would strongly agree here - Cormac O'Hara most certainly is the real deal.

snubbleste

Cormac Ó hEadhra is back on The Late Debate this week.
His daily news programme is fantastic, much better than the english language versions
http://www.rte.ie/rnag/cormac-ag-a-cuig/

I don't understand why he is not promoted further. Imo, he is better than Philip Boucher-Hayes.

bureau2009

yosser hughes wrote: »

I agree. I think he's excellent.To think they replaced him for a while there with Claire Byrne!:rolleyes: I actually thought they had given him the elbow.
Glad to see he's back as the show deserves a presenter with a bit of gravitas and Cormac appears to have it.
i normally give out about RTE presenters,justifiably. In this case,credit where it's due.However I can't help but feel that the powers that be just stumble across these things and were happy to replace him with an airhead like Byrne. I hear though she's being lined up to fill in for Marian:eek:
I really don't know what any broadcaster sees in her tbh.

Agree completely about Corman O'Hara.

And agree completely about Claire Byrne :eek:

(I could have written this post myself!)

CountyHurler

Although my alter ego posted earlier in this thread with a negative opinion of Mr O'Hara.... I'd just like to post that I think he's very good on The Late Debate... You'd wonder how he doesnt have a prime time show on Radio One, and how Mary Wilson does...

foxtrot101

I thought Flutt was back there for a second. I'm a bit disappointed.

bureau2009

CountyHurler wrote: »

Although my alter ego posted earlier in this thread with a negative opinion of Mr O'Hara.... I'd just like to post that I think he's very good on The Late Debate... You'd wonder how he doesnt have a prime time show on Radio One, and how Mary Wilson does...

It's certainly a mystery as to how Mary Wilson got a daily show.

bureau2009

Today's Independent reporting Keelin Shanley will take over Late Debate in the New Year.

Sounds like a shake-up right through Radio 1 from January 2015.

snubbleste

Cormac standing in for Mary Wilson.

so who's doing Cormac's show on RnaG 1700-1800 :eek:

edit: it's mairin ni ghadhra, who travelled from Conamara to Dublin to stand-in.
most odd - Has that type of switch ever happened before? I presume it shows that rté think he's pretty good.

CountyHurler

snubbleste wrote: »

Cormac standing in for Mary Wilson.

He should be given the show full time. He is way ahead of Mary Wilson as a broadcaster... Not that that is putting the bar very high..

snubbleste

That goes without saying.

But, has it ever happened where a host was moved from the same slot on another station just to replace someone and his replacement has to travel to Dublin with all the expenses (accommodation, travel)?

conorh91

Love listening to Corma O hEadhra; he spares nobody. Like a younger, more lucid version of Vincent Browne.

constitutionus

Yup.

I was crestfallen when he was taken off late debate ( for being TOO good at his job IMO -) Keelins turned it into "marion at night " .

FAR too dinner partyish .

So I'm delighted he's on drivetime. The longer the better as far as I'm conscerned

conorh91

Is he gone permanently from the Late Debate? Why does RTE not seem to take The Late Debate seriously? They've shafted Cormac O Hara twice, and unfortunately, Audrey Carville's talent was spotted, so she left.

I like Keelin Shanley, I think she'd do well as a replacement for Brendan O'Connor on Saturday night TV. Or a replacement for John Murray in the mornings. That general-interest magazine format suits her.

The Late Debate should have a heavy-hitter like Cormac IMO.

Ridiculous that he doesn't have a permanent slot in RTE Radio 1 or TV, and the likes of Claire Byrne do.

snubbleste

Eh, we love Cormac on RnaG and ye's can't have 'im

Karmann Reeves

My only gripe with Cormac is that, like a lot of other RTE presenters, he is over zealous in his desire to establish his gaeilgeoir credentials. His elocution swerves when pronouncing 'Met Eireann' would put Lionel Messi to shame. For god's sake, when your speaking English, please exercise some consistency in pronunciation. When speaking to my mates about a recent trip to Paris, I don't hawk up a lump of phlegm, just to prove I know how to pronounce 'Paris' in the French language. And don't get me started on 'An Ghhhhaaarrrda Shouuiiaaachhhhaannnnnnaaaaaa!!!!!!!! Don't worry pal - you have a job for life, you don't have to rub it in!

Brendan Bendar

Karmann Reeves wrote: »

My only gripe with Cormac is that, like a lot of other RTE presenters, he is over zealous in his desire to establish his gaeilgeoir credentials. His elocution swerves when pronouncing 'Met Eireann' would put Lionel Messi to shame. For god's sake, when your speaking English, please exercise some consistency in pronunciation. When speaking to my mates about a recent trip to Paris, I don't hawk up a lump of phlegm, just to prove I know how to pronounce 'Paris' in the French language. And don't get me started on 'An Ghhhhaaarrrda Shouuiiaaachhhhaannnnnnaaaaaa!!!!!!!! Don't worry pal - you have a job for life, you don't have to rub it in!

He'd actually do better if he pronounced his 'Os' and 'Us' properly

I'm a bit tired of Dooblin,cumpany and Guvvernment to be quite honest.

He's in there with Conor Brophy and a few more on that team.

snubbleste

Karmann Reeves wrote: »

My only gripe with Cormac is that, like a lot of other RTE presenters, he is over zealous in his desire to establish his gaeilgeoir credentials. His elocution swerves when pronouncing 'Met Eireann' would put Lionel Messi to shame. For god's sake, when your speaking English, please exercise some consistency in pronunciation. When speaking to my mates about a recent trip to Paris, I don't hawk up a lump of phlegm, just to prove I know how to pronounce 'Paris' in the French language. And don't get me started on 'An Ghhhhaaarrrda Shouuiiaaachhhhaannnnnnaaaaaa!!!!!!!! Don't worry pal - you have a job for life, you don't have to rub it in!

I think he pronounces them correctly
He tries to use gaeilge any am he gets freisin.

Karmann Reeves

I'm sure they're correct Irish pronunciations. I simply find it irritating and unnecessarily pedantic . Like the way Pat Kenny pronounces the word poem - "Poim"!

P. Breathnach

Karmann Reeves wrote: »

I'm sure they're correct Irish pronunciations. I simply find it irritating and unnecessarily pedantic ....

What's objectionable about correct pronunciation?

If I use a French phrase in English, I pronounce in the French way. To do otherwise might be considered a folks' pass.

Karmann Reeves

Lol. Yes, I take your point but that would probably be a 'fox pass'. I'm not really talking about phonetic pronunciation. I'm just into less o.t.t. imitation of the other language's pronunciation e.g. would you say 'plaster of Paris' or 'plaster of parhhee'. There are other manifestations of this kind of zeal. I often shudder when I hear soccer pundits talking about 'stadia' as if they had just walked out of the Roman Forum or, worse, the recognition of the ancient silent h in 'hotel' or 'historical'. So we get "we stayed in AN hotel on AN historical tour of the stadia of Spain". Have you ever heard George Hamilton use the words 'goal keeper' or even 'keeper'? No - he prefers 'Custodian'! Custodians of the peace - An Ghaarrrdaaaa SSuuiccchaannnnnaa!

Eugene Norman

Karmann Reeves wrote: »

Lol. Yes, I take your point but that would probably be a 'fox pass'. I'm not really talking about phonetic pronunciation. I'm just into less o.t.t. imitation of the other language's pronunciation e.g. would you say 'plaster of Paris' or 'plaster of parhhee'. There are other manifestations of this kind of zeal. I often shudder when I hear soccer pundits talking about 'stadia' as if they had just walked out of the Roman Forum or, worse, the recognition of the ancient silent h in 'hotel' or 'historical'. So we get "we stayed in AN hotel on AN historical tour of the stadia of Spain". Have you ever heard George Hamilton use the words 'goal keeper' or even 'keeper'? No - he prefers 'Custodian'! Custodians of the peace - An Ghaarrrdaaaa SSuuiccchaannnnnaa!

He's a great man for penultimate. Ultimate, not so much. as its a smaller word

Brendan Bendar

Eugene Norman wrote: »

He's a great man for penultimate. Ultimate, not so much. as its a smaller word

'Pen' from the Greek = 'almost' as in peninsula - almost an Island

Therefor penultimate almost the ultimate,the semi -final like

Just thought I'd throw that snippet in to show George is a well educated lad.

conorh91

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

He'd actually do better if he pronounced his 'Os' and 'Us' properly

I'm a bit tired of Dooblin,cumpany and Guvvernment to be quite honest.

He's in there with Conor Brophy and a few more on that team.

Are you basically suggesting he should use RP?

To fussily pronounce the O in company, government , and Monday would (justifiably, in my opinion) make CH the subject of derision for swapping his Irish and Galway accent for a BBC accent; not unlike Michael D Higgins, who in my opinion pronounces his o's far too rigidly.

The south-eastern counties of England may say, gə-vər(n)-mənt, but it is pronounced gu-ver(n)-mənt almost universally across this country.

Brendan Bendar

conorh91 wrote: »

Are you basically suggesting he should use RP?

To fussily pronounce the O in company, government , and Monday would (justifiably, in my opinion) make CH the subject of derision for swapping his Irish and Galway accent for a BBC accent; not unlike Michael D Higgins, who in my opinion pronounces his o's far too rigidly.

Not too sure what your point is there, but I would really prefer if he pronounced

'Monday' as 'Monday' rather than 'Munday'.

Michael D has an amazing accent, I can't make head nor tail of it to be honest.

How does he pronounce his O's rigidly, any examples ,I would be interested in your take on it C.

Didn't see your edit, but why do we dwell on extremes?
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Not suggesting he pronounce 'Government ' as ' Gavermant' just plain 'Government' would do me

Like o is o u is u and a is a

Thanks

Eugene Norman

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

'Pen' from the Greek = 'almost' as in peninsula - almost an Island

Therefor penultimate almost the ultimate,the semi -final like

Just thought I'd throw that snippet in to show George is a well educated lad.

I know what it means. As I said he never calls the final the "ultimate" game.

Brendan Bendar

Eugene Norman wrote: »

I know what it means. As I said he never calls the final the "ultimate" game.

Aaah ok, I knew you did, just tossing in a bit of trivia for those who didn't.

Somebody might like the bit of trivia.

Sorry.

Eugene Norman

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Not too sure what your point is there, but I would really prefer if he pronounced

'Monday' as 'Monday' rather than 'Munday'.

Michael D has an amazing accent, I can't make head nor tail of it to be honest.

How does he pronounce his O's rigidly, any examples ,I would be interested in your take on it C.

Didn't see your edit, but why do we dwell on extremes?
'
Not suggesting he pronounce 'Government ' as ' Gavermant' just plain 'Government' would do me

Like o is o u is u and a is a

Thanks

Meaningless as the pronounciation of any letter or sequence depends on the context. O sometimes is U sounding.

conorh91

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

'
Not suggesting he pronounce 'Government ' as ' Gavermant' just plain 'Government' would do me

Like o is o u is u and a is a

If you want to pronounce the o in government properly, that's exactly how it needs to be pronounced. Otherwise, you're just pronouncing it guvernment the same as CH (and half the country), except slightly less emphatically.

Who even cares?

Red Alert

Is Shanley now permanent on the Late Debate? Yuk, I really don't like her personality.

Brendan Bendar

Red Alert wrote: »

Is Shanley now permanent on the Late Debate? Yuk, I really don't like her personality.

Me neither, a bit too ' clipped' in my opinion.

snubbleste

Cormac doing a stellar job on Drivetime this week.
He gets to the point quickly and has no problem demanding answers from his quarry

Brendan Bendar

snubbleste wrote: »

Cormac doing a stellar job on Drivetime this week.
He gets to the point quickly and has no problem demanding answers from his quarry

Yes, agree with that view.

washiskin

He is very good in that slot alright, would be a great permanent replacement, but I don't like the way he cuts across people so abruptly.

Brendan Bendar

washiskin wrote: »

He is very good in that slot alright, would be a great permanent replacement, but I don't like the way he cuts across people so abruptly.

Hmmmm in a ' hard news' prog. you have to do that, I feel, otherwise the subject will just waffle on.

Jury is out in my assessment.

honeybear

washiskin wrote: »

He is very good in that slot alright, would be a great permanent replacement, but I don't like the way he cuts across people so abruptly.

Agree with all of the above. He says "Answer the question" a lot. Think that himself and Mary Wilson are a good combination.

snubbleste

honeybear wrote: »

Agree with all of the above. He says "Answer the question" a lot. Think that himself and Mary Wilson are a good combination.

Wha?
Wilson should be transferred asap

RayM

Upon rereading this thread, Brendan Bendar, the tone of your posts reminds me so much of the thread-starter (Flutterinbantam), albeit thankfully without his tedious obsession with all things scatological.

Brendan Bendar

RayM wrote: »

Upon rereading this thread, Brendan Bendar, the tone of your posts reminds me so much of the thread-starter (Flutterinbantam), albeit thankfully without his tedious obsession with all things scatological.

I must study his posting, and check and see if that is a compliment or an insult:D

snubbleste

I've never seem a radio show step by step layout before

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0YL3zhWgAAdTPb.jpg:large

did anyone hear Wednesday night's Late Date, and the showdown between Elaine Byrne and Cormac Ó hEadhra?

Byrne was speaking over other people all night, and even seemed to assume the position of interviewer, arduously musclining in on Cormac's phone interview with a member of St Vincent's hospital Board.

When Ó hEadhra threatened that he was 'damn near' throwing Elaine Byrne and Mattie McGrath out of the studio for noisy bickering, Elaine Byrne assumed Victim Mode, and railed about how badly she was treated by Ó hEadhra in tge past, and how on a previous panel, she had been 'rescued ' only by another female panellist.

Does anyone else get the impression that Elaine Byrne has a serious chip on her shoulder? Anytime she is criticised she seems to play the gender card, and imply that she is being mistreated because of her gender. It's so tiresome.

Cormac Ó hEadhra is among the very best of RTÉ political hosts, and at the end of the show, he was big enough to apologise to Elaine Byrne and try to make light of her cringeworthy tantrum... I really fail to understand why she can't behave as civilly as other guests, both make and female, when she goes on radio and TV panels.

I saw a similar outburst from her on Vincent Browne and (I think) Claire Byrne... it's all a bit tedious.

bureau2009

I didn't hear all of Wednesday's show but I don't like Elaine Byrne's tone at all - she comes across as a bit of a madam.

Oops69

Good presenter , he does over pronounce his gaeilge name though.