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Windows 7 XP Horror

  • 14-06-2011 11:52pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭


    My life is ruined with this heap of god dam . oh words no longer describe it. the amount of post relating to this heap are unknown but i finally said i would come to the rest of Ireland for help:D

    So anyway i have this Dell Dimension 8400 XP 2005. Top of the range bought second hand from a friend. So as you can guess it was XP. Me being me i like it to be newer so i upgraded to 32-bit Windows 7 professional(got a bargin you see) Note i have Windows 7 installed for a year now hell i have gone to and back.

    I have done the Windows 7 upgrade advisor before and right now after a fresh install for the 10th time this year. :(. When i first done it there was an issue with my Sound card. Discontinued when vista entered so i bought a Vista working one cause we all know 7 is made on vista. That was grand perfect. i have done a new upgrade with 7 installed and it says she is perfect everything is compatible and you meet the requirements.

    Now for the past year the computer has frozen , spat out virus' , thrown hissy fits and just being uncooperative sigh. now i am sick to death its rather it cops da fook on or were going to have a rotten Apple in the house and a dust collecting machine like its Sisters 95 & 98 and i wouldnt like to see that

    So i have 1GB or Ram enough to take Windows 7 but could this be my problem do i need a 2GB's

    My Graphics card oh christ it will be the death of me. one day it works the next its doesn't. Problem an update released July 2010 by Nvidia causes it to no longer work with windows 7?? but yet the 2009 release works perfect.
    Nvidia GeForce 6800 . Anyone know bout this. I figured that much out tonight when i got sick to death and rolled back the driver.

    i Think that's all my problems so far.

    Note: I am using a Really old 95 dell Screen Monitor. I had no monitor so this was my only choice could this be affecting my graphics card due to its screen resolution 1024 x 800(recommended) being the biggest im allowed. otherwise the monitor just switches off and flashes amber and green(light) till it times.
    out and the screen reverts to normal.

    Any Help Greatly appreciated Thanks in advance


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,729 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Honestly, I would have long since replaced the Desktop by now. You realize just about any new PC you buy today would have about 8-fold or more power than the present one, right? I bet it's even a Pentium 4 or a Celeron to make matters worse, 1.7ghz or lower. Or one of those really dated AMD 64s. DDR RAM @ 333mhz, maybe 40gb (0.04TB) of storage?

    Compare that to a modern 4, 6, or 8 core processor running at 3ghz per core, 8GB of DDR3 running @ 1.3ghz or faster, 1TB of Storage. Thats before I even get started on the graphics card or into the nitty gritty of FSB speeds or L2 cache size. This isn't exactly a Camaro, it's a Dell Dimension.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Overheal wrote: »
    Honestly, I would have long since replaced the Desktop by now. You realize just about any new PC you buy today would have about 8-fold or more power than the present one, right?

    when your poor you do with what you have. ha ha need money. but if it works grand im happy just wish it would stop freezing


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    at it's age I would reseat the memory , don't take it out of the machine, just loosen and tighten , check the CPU is pressed in - don't loosen it at all just a little light pressure, vacuum clean all the fans, etc

    then use the diagnostics to check the RAM and Hard drive have no errors (turn on SMART in the BIOS)

    get a live linux cd or run diagnostics overnight to rule out windows problems

    if you have windows problems then system restore is realtively painless compared to a stab in the dark


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 170 ✭✭portumnadaz


    Download the latest version of Ubuntu and burn it on to a cd and install it. It should run fine but forget about playing video games. It will detect all your hardware from the install so drivers won't be a problem. The support for Ubuntu is great but Linux takes a lot of getting used to so be prepared for a lot of reading.

    Forget about Win 7 or Vista on that machine it will only break your heart with lack of drivers and glacier like speed. When a machine hits 7 years its almost useless.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Bump your RAM, it's the easiest way to get an improvement in performance. (Though it would honestly be worth thinking about saving for a new computer, even €500 would buy you something miles better than what you've got now).

    It's probably also worth trying mukki's Vista tips and seeing if they help you at all.

    Having fought with a 2005-era home desktop to get it to run Win7 I know your pain, but I also know that it's now running mostly fine for me so it's worth persevering.

    If you're finding regular viral infections on the machine you need to review your usage habit; turn on UAC and restrict admin privileges to one account, and make everyone who uses it regularly use a limited-user account. It doesn't stop viruses getting on the system but it makes them a hell of a lot simpler to clean up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,496 ✭✭✭Mr. Presentable


    Restore it to XP, the way it was built to be. New OSs on old machines are always heartache and never worth it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭Scram


    to be honest due to fact that ur PC is old id stick with Windows Xp. Your gonna get nothing but trouble trying to make windows 7 or vista work on it, with looking for drivers etc its not worth it.

    If your gonna go with vista or win7 youll need 2gig + of ram otherwise it will be slow.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Restore it to XP, the way it was built to be. New OSs on old machines are always heartache and never worth it.

    TBH from what I've seen on a socket 939 motherboard with an Athlon X2 @ 2.2Ghz + 4GB RAM, a suitably configured Win7 install should run as well as XP if not better. (The only issues I've had are either down to graphics drivers or unusual issues to do with a PCI-SATA adapter).

    The system specifications are available on Dell's site here.

    A bump to 4GB of RAM would do wonders without breaking the bank - you can get a 1GB DDR2 Non-ECC DIMM from Play for £15, for example.

    Similarly a graphics card upgrade would probably help, though you'd want to check the power requirements before doing so - I've found this Power Calculator very useful for such tasks in the past.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    Id put ubuntu 11.04 on it problem solved its very easy to use and far superior to windows 7 imo


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Download the latest version of Ubuntu and burn it on to a cd and install it. It should run fine but forget about playing video games. It will detect all your hardware from the install so drivers won't be a problem. The support for Ubuntu is great but Linux takes a lot of getting used to so be prepared for a lot of reading.
    superfish wrote: »
    Id put ubuntu 11.04 on it problem solved its very easy to use and far superior to windows 7 imo

    I know you're trying to help, but "Stick Linux on it, I like it more than Windows 7" isn't going to help the OP sort out their problem, is it? There's a "no off-topic advocacy" rule for a reason, you know...


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    superfish wrote: »
    Id put ubuntu 11.04 on it problem solved its very easy to use and far superior to windows 7 imo

    In fairness the OP didn't ask how can I get rid of windows or how can I install Linux to replace Windows. If he wanted such assistance he very likely would have posted in the Linux forum.

    He's using windows and as such such posts as the above are not helpful, please refrain from them in future.

    As for the OP's issue, tbh I'd also suggest Windows XP over what your trying to do. Legacy support for older hardware can often be an issue with new OS's/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    ubuntu 11.04 is less demanding than windows 7 and will work on his machine no problem and is a far superior os this will bring new life to his machine why attack my post it was a perfectly valid response in solving the issue


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    superfish wrote: »
    ubuntu 11.04 is less demanding than windows 7 and will work on his machine no problem and is a far superior os this will bring new life to his machine why attack my post it was a perfectly valid response in solving the issue

    But you are not solving the issue of problems with Windows 7 performance, you're advocating switching platforms based on your preference as much as anything else.

    You don't have any reason to assume the OP will share your opinion on how Win7 compares to Ubuntu 11, and others in-thread (including myself) have offered advice on steps that could help improve the performance of Windows on this hardware.

    From the charter:
    "No Off-Topic Advocacy: When someone asks a question in relation to their current OS/browser/mailer/etc, either answer the question or don't post. If they want an alternative, they'll ask for it. Off-topic advocacy will be sent to the Recycle Bin and repeat offenders may be banned."

    You may think Ubuntu is the mutt's nuts, but until the OP says "**** it, I'm finished with Windows, what other OSs have similar performance and functionality?" your answers are neither appropriate nor helpful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    Fysh wrote: »
    But you are not solving the issue of problems with Windows 7 performance, you're advocating switching platforms based on your preference as much as anything else.

    You don't have any reason to assume the OP will share your opinion on how Win7 compares to Ubuntu 11, and others in-thread (including myself) have offered advice on steps that could help improve the performance of Windows on this hardware.

    From the charter:
    "No Off-Topic Advocacy: When someone asks a question in relation to their current OS/browser/mailer/etc, either answer the question or don't post. If they want an alternative, they'll ask for it. Off-topic advocacy will be sent to the Recycle Bin and repeat offenders may be banned."

    You may think Ubuntu is the mutt's nuts, but until the OP says "**** it, I'm finished with Windows, what other OSs have similar performance and functionality?" your answers are neither appropriate nor helpful.

    your blowing this way out of perportion imo it is clear that his system cant handle windows 7 so I merely suggested an alternative rather than have him scrap his pc im sure the op will be appreciative of my thoughtfulness and as for my previous post on ubuntu im sure no one found it to be uninformative or offensive, infact it seems to me your bored and looking to throw your weight around


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    Now for the past year the computer has frozen , spat out virus' , thrown hissy fits and just being uncooperative sigh.

    How exactly has it been throwing hissy fits and just being unccoperative? Do you get error messages at all...?

    If your computer is contracting viruses, you should be looking at how the viruses are getting onto the machine. Dodgy downloads, software "cracks" or running software from other sources (such as USB keys) and the like are comon ways for viruses to get onto your machine. Make sure that you have anti-virus software installed on your machine and that it's activated and up-to-date. I'd also run a scan on your entire hard drive, to make sure that there aren't any viruses that might have been lurking in your documents from Windows XP.

    As for the other problems, I'd agree with most replies here: make sure your hardware is not dying, and consider upgrading the RAM on your machine. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,813 ✭✭✭clintondaly


    My life is ruined with this heap of god dam . oh words no longer describe it. the amount of post relating to this heap are unknown but i finally said i would come to the rest of Ireland for help:D

    So anyway i have this Dell Dimension 8400 XP 2005. Top of the range bought second hand from a friend. So as you can guess it was XP. Me being me i like it to be newer so i upgraded to 32-bit Windows 7 professional(got a bargin you see) Note i have Windows 7 installed for a year now hell i have gone to and back.

    I have done the Windows 7 upgrade advisor before and right now after a fresh install for the 10th time this year. :(. When i first done it there was an issue with my Sound card. Discontinued when vista entered so i bought a Vista working one cause we all know 7 is made on vista. That was grand perfect. i have done a new upgrade with 7 installed and it says she is perfect everything is compatible and you meet the requirements.

    Now for the past year the computer has frozen , spat out virus' , thrown hissy fits and just being uncooperative sigh. now i am sick to death its rather it cops da fook on or were going to have a rotten Apple in the house and a dust collecting machine like its Sisters 95 & 98 and i wouldnt like to see that

    So i have 1GB or Ram enough to take Windows 7 but could this be my problem do i need a 2GB's

    My Graphics card oh christ it will be the death of me. one day it works the next its doesn't. Problem an update released July 2010 by Nvidia causes it to no longer work with windows 7?? but yet the 2009 release works perfect.
    Nvidia GeForce 6800 . Anyone know bout this. I figured that much out tonight when i got sick to death and rolled back the driver.

    i Think that's all my problems so far.

    Note: I am using a Really old 95 dell Screen Monitor. I had no monitor so this was my only choice could this be affecting my graphics card due to its screen resolution 1024 x 800(recommended) being the biggest im allowed. otherwise the monitor just switches off and flashes amber and green(light) till it times.
    out and the screen reverts to normal.

    Any Help Greatly appreciated Thanks in advance


    The first question i would ask you is-did you do a clean install or an upgrade,you mention an upgrade to 7,if it was an upgrade what usually happens is the old OS is kept on the computer,if you do a clean install it will wipe the old operating system and return the computer to an almost new configuration i.e speed etc.

    Also alot of driver and software may not be compatable with 7 and therefore will require updates once the new OS is installed.

    i have gone form XP to Vista and then onto 7 on the same laptop,it took a bit of work but i got there.

    Windows 7 uses a lot less resources than Vista.

    With regards the question of RAM,an upgrade to 2Gb is advisable.

    as a previous poster mentioned,see if anything has become unseated on the underside,also remove the battery and have the mains turned off at the same time can also be like a mini reset.

    the monitor question-you should be able to match the computer output with the monitor,its a matter of going into the control,panel settings

    Rgds

    Clinton


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,235 ✭✭✭Odaise Gaelach


    The first question i would ask you is-did you do a clean install or an upgrade,you mention an upgrade to 7,if it was an upgrade what usually happens is the old OS is kept on the computer,if you do a clean install it will wipe the old operating system and return the computer to an almost new configuration i.e speed etc.

    Just a clarification: there is no way to directly upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7. Users must either upgrade from XP to Vista first, or perform a clean install. :)
    To upgrade your PC from Windows XP to Windows 7, you'll need to select the Custom option during Windows 7 installation. A custom installation doesn't preserve your programs, files, or settings. It's sometimes called a "clean" installation for that reason.

    Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 - Microsoft.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    THanks for the replies.

    First it is a clean Install. Formatted the HD yesterday and installed Windows 7 from booted disc unlike my previous attempts where i installed while on the computer. So there is no such thing as XP on this computer anymore

    Socond Its a Desktop not laptop as i read by one poster just to clear that up :D

    Yes i think i may need more Ram. All drivers are updated and work perfect. everything does when its being installed. Windows does not report any errors. its later when it is installing updates everything goes horribly wrong as i pointed out with my Graphics card. When a new driver version July 2010 is installed it no longer is able to support Aero but the 2009 can.

    Yes i have anti Virus they dont bother me the viruses. I know where i get my viruses porn sites and poker and free tv links hand them out like free candy ha ha. I just put on a clean install of 7 every few months. to freshen her up.

    its more down to the point that she keeps freezing and slowing down. after a few weeks. and im getting a error on minecraft website saying my pixels are not accelerated? This may be a previous XP carrier but it is no more. nothing to do with XP. i just mentioned it because everything in her was built in 2005 for XP and no vista in mind. I should mention the motherboard is pentium 4 Could this be a major factor in her issues causing her to not react fast. I know what Vista is like i had it for 2 years on a laptop and well basically this Windows 7 is like that Vista. I know what the Real 7 is like and i loved it . i had it installed on the same laptop..

    Do you think im just over powering it by putting Windows 7 on it. Microsoft say she can support it and i has all upto date drivers.

    Thanks :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Just a clarification: there is no way to directly upgrade from Windows XP to Windows 7. Users must either upgrade from XP to Vista first, or perform a clean install. :)



    Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 - Microsoft.com

    Well my set up was a bog. I went from XP home to 7 professional. I had to do a custom upgrade. which ment i lost all data unless i backed it up. Which i done. i copied all files on to my beloved EX HD. what i would do with out :rolleyes: I basically have all my music and videos and software programmes on it and bring it to friends houses to install stuffs. like Google sketch up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    superfish wrote: »

    Thank you . I have/Had linux installed on my Computer HD There upto yesterday before i formatted my HD. I couldnt use it. I took very long to start up when i first installed it and the screen was very small. and i installed google chrome and it crashed so i powered it down and went back to 7. :D. I might try to re-install it again some time as i want to try something new. It Seems excellent and its something different from Windows. This is my source that i used to install my system Ubuntu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    Thank you . I have/Had linux installed on my Computer HD There upto yesterday before i formatted my HD. I couldnt use it. I took very long to start up when i first installed it and the screen was very small. and i installed google chrome and it crashed so i powered it down and went back to 7. :D. I might try to re-install it again some time as i want to try something new. It Seems excellent and its something different from Windows. This is my source that i used to install my system Ubuntu

    you would be better off doing a complete wipe if you copy it to usb and follow the instructions to test it out first you wont go too far wrong

    have a look at this link before you make up your mind lots of help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783110 some one has suggested installing xubuntu for even older systems, I tried older versions and found they were complicated 11.04 is so easy to use its similar to an iphone or android tablet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    I won't advocate dropping Windows, but Ubuntu 11.04 will fly on that machine. Unix and Linux in general will work on anything from a 486 all the way up to a supercomputer. There is no justification for throwing out or retiring a machine from 2005. That is nonsense of the highest order. The machine is fine for another 5 years at least.

    That is a waste. If I can run Linux on a pentium 1 from 1998, you can run Ubuntu on a machine from 2005. The hardware upgrade cycle is a bit of a myth. You are a desktop user, not a cluster farm manager. Performance isn't the only concern here. Your machine from 2005 will do everything a new machine will. Don't throw money away on hardware you don't need OP.

    There is a lot of misinformation about Linux out there. I would argue it's actually easier to install and maintain an Ubuntu desktop, provided you aren't a gamer. Less babysitting to do once you set it up and get your work done.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    superfish wrote: »
    you would be better off doing a complete wipe if you copy it to usb and follow the instructions to test it out first you wont go too far wrong

    have a look at this link before you make up your mind lots of help here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783110 some one has suggested installing xubuntu for even older systems, I tried older versions and found they were complicated 11.04 is so easy to use its similar to an iphone or android tablet

    I like. Well what im doing right now is Downloading 11.04 and Universal USB installer. Im going to place that all in a Folder i have on my External HD. Now if i can remember correctly it will give me 2 choices open and run along side windows and another. Personally i would go again with run along side windows as Its new waters for me im not a basic user but im still very new to computers doing them for awhile but only getting more into it. So Ubuntu/Linux is fresh and i still need Windows as i do alot of work for family and stuffs so i dont want to loose that just yet untill i get two feet on the ground. Like Vista took me awhile to get used to it as it was my first laptop/computer but if i made any mistakes i knew how to correct them. same with 7 i used to get someone else to fix my problems now i do it myself/ i had my laptop at the time so i had a running computer to work . so i would need
    some sort of back up while i play with Ubuntu. hopefully if i get money i will buy a rotten Apple Mac and then i can play to my hearts content with everything else. I have a Windows 95 and laptop 98 but im preserving them. as im making a collection will be getting the previous windows os in the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Naikon wrote: »
    I won't advocate dropping Windows, but Ubuntu 11.04 will fly on that machine. Unix and Linux in general will work on anything from a 486 all the way up to a supercomputer. There is no justification for throwing out or retiring a machine from 2005. That is nonsense of the highest order. The machine is fine for another 10 years at least.

    Thank you that is my point. i could buy a new computer but this one is working great its just slow. I dont think it will be going beyond 7 as this is the end of the line. just seriously dont think it could handle a new OS and as ive been reading ewverything is going 64-bit so this computer has met her destiny. I could put her back to Xp i have the tag on the side. But i hate Xp and personally shoot anyone still using it . coughs thinking of some family members I dont see what the fasination is with XP. its out dated now and from what ive seen working on Xp's support is coming to an end. I know a Tech head who said its great for over riding stuff when working on other computers but that was before 7 and vista was a disaster. Since then i think 7 is far more superior and can still run XP. All in one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    I like. Well what im doing right now is Downloading 11.04 and Universal USB installer. Im going to place that all in a Folder i have on my External HD. Now if i can remember correctly it will give me 2 choices open and run along side windows and another. Personally i would go again with run along side windows as Its new waters for me im not a basic user but im still very new to computers doing them for awhile but only getting more into it. So Ubuntu/Linux is fresh and i still need Windows as i do alot of work for family and stuffs so i dont want to loose that just yet untill i get two feet on the ground. Like Vista took me awhile to get used to it as it was my first laptop/computer but if i made any mistakes i knew how to correct them. same with 7 i used to get someone else to fix my problems now i do it myself/ i had my laptop at the time so i had a running computer to work . so i would need
    some sort of back up while i play with Ubuntu. hopefully if i get money i will buy a rotten Apple Mac and then i can play to my hearts content with everything else. I have a Windows 95 and laptop 98 but im preserving them. as im making a collection will be getting the previous windows os in the future.
    well if you save ubuntu to a flash drive you have the option to boot it up from the bios and have a play round with the new setup I did this initially before installing and like you was going to run it alongside windows, but straight away I decided it was so easy to navigate I did a complete wipe and got rid of windows my laptop is like a rocket now lol here is a link on how to test it out first http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download once you have it installed do not hesitate to ask me anything you need to know


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    superfish wrote: »
    well if you save ubuntu to a flash drive you have the option to boot it up from the bios and have a play round with the new setup I did this initially before installing and like you was going to run it alongside windows, but straight away I decided it was so easy to navigate I did a complete wipe and got rid of windows my laptop is like a rocket now lol here is a link on how to test it out first http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download once you have it installed do not hesitate to ask me anything you need to know

    Thanks. ya just the last time when i installed it the screen was quite small and very bata looking. Now i did push it as i do with all things. work now or you will die is my motto. ha ha. so ya first time maybe i did not give it a chance. but when i installed it i got a black screen with Orange and Ubuntu Inside and 5 dots at the bottom loading. took forever. and i did not know what to expect. Thing we better take this to PM. going off topic talking bout Ubuntu. This thread is about Windows 7 ha ha :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    Thanks. ya just the last time when i installed it the screen was quite small and very bata looking. Now i did push it as i do with all things. work now or you will die is my motto. ha ha. so ya first time maybe i did not give it a chance. but when i installed it i got a black screen with Orange and Ubuntu Inside and 5 dots at the bottom loading. took forever. and i did not know what to expect. Thing we better take this to PM. going off topic talking bout Ubuntu. This thread is about Windows 7 ha ha :pac:

    its your thread just rename it "how to install ubuntu, then get anyone banned who dares mention windows :D ya the first time you install it takes ages to load up and untillyou fully install it wont be up to speed, also the first few times I turned my laptop on and off it took a while to load up but now its very fast to fire up you can literally log in and open my web browser and it does so instantly unlike windows 7 where you have to wait a day or 2 for everything to load


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    oh i forgot if you dont like the layout you could download macbuntu its a mac theme looks great


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    superfish wrote: »
    oh i forgot if you dont like the layout you could download macbuntu its a mac theme looks great

    Wow!! Im really getting drawn into it. As much as i love Windows i think ive over used it. may only be 5 years but now its just boring and slow and ugh i love windows 7 i will admit that and find it very hard to let go its just so simple to me. And i love many layouts but i think between 95 98 me xp vista and now 7 ive just lost interest its like nokia everything is the exact same since the dawn of time. Go to any phone and you know how to solve the problem cause nothing has changed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    Wow!! Im really getting drawn into it. As much as i love Windows i think ive over used it. may only be 5 years but now its just boring and slow and ugh i love windows 7 i will admit that and find it very hard to let go its just so simple to me. And i love many layouts but i think between 95 98 me xp vista and now 7 ive just lost interest its like nokia everything is the exact same since the dawn of time. Go to any phone and you know how to solve the problem cause nothing has changed.

    I was the same I loved windows 7 il ask you do you still love windows 7 after a week of using 11.04. oh and install google chromium not chrome and also when you want to install a program use the app called ubuntu software centre its pure class you just type the name of the program you want and click one button and it installs itself, also ubuntu one is cool like the cloud but free :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    superfish wrote: »
    install google chromium not chrome

    ? is there a difference. if its not google i refuse to use it like ie and firefox. bloody heavy programmes they do my head in. does itunes work? thats a big must and Windows live essentials(mail) i tried thunderbird christ disaster. i will die if i do not have mail. Its my biggest weakness with out it. rely on it heavily to deal with all my mail and group them together and one click delete. oh its heaven. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    ? is there a difference. if its not google i refuse to use it like ie and firefox. bloody heavy programmes they do my head in. does itunes work? thats a big must and Windows live essentials(mail) i tried thunderbird christ disaster. i will die if i do not have mail. Its my biggest weakness with out it. rely on it heavily to deal with all my mail and group them together and one click delete. oh its heaven. :pac:

    here is a link on chrome vs chromium http://doanmba.wordpress.com/2008/09/04/chrome-vs-chromium-review-continued/ I also used chrome with windows 7 and found it crashed quite a bit ive had no such issues with chromium also its lightning fast.

    as for windows live http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1557550

    you can also download it from this link http://www.techtickle.com/windows-live-essentials-2011-download.html I clicked to download it and it did start downloading but I cancelled as I dont need it .

    you will enjoy ubuntu one have a play round with it and you will see what I mean
    as for I tunes http://www.ehow.com/how_5197743_download-itunes-linux-ubuntu.html and yet again I dont use it as there is a built in bit torrent in ubuntu


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    So how much of Ubuntu is built. See developing is not my area. i dont do source codes. i do physical building alright and help others with software programmes, setting up applications and fixing internet. thats my area


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    So how much of Ubuntu is built. See developing is not my area. i dont do source codes. i do physical building alright and help others with software programmes, setting up applications and fixing internet. thats my area

    then you will love 11.04 its the best of both worlds I would argue its easier to use and maintain than windows it looks after itself but if you decide to take it upon yourself to do some manual developing the facilities are there im just messing round with the terminal and entering commands but the beauty of it is you dont have to if you dont want to as everything you could possibly need is only one click away, plus if you miss any of your windows software you can run them in wine

    I personally find it a hell of a lot easier to use than any of the windows os it reminds me so much of my phone the sgs on android


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Ya wine seems good but does it only use Xp . as we have already discovered in this thread i despise XP :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Here we go once again. Im after installing Nvidia Manager and oh wait sorry seems to support Aero. Could this be it. Could it have been my monitor all this time breaking my heart. :D. Im just after swaping the monitor for a tv. temp only :(. But the screen is soooooooooooooooooo BIG . and the writing is so fine and omg i feel like a new PC has entered. :eek:. Oh quite happy for now if it supports it. just means i will have to buy a new tv


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 900 ✭✭✭superfish


    Ya wine seems good but does it only use Xp . as we have already discovered in this thread i despise XP :D

    heres a link http://www.makeuseof.com/answers/install-windows-software-ubuntu-wine/
    Here we go once again. Im after installing Nvidia Manager and oh wait sorry seems to support Aero. Could this be it. Could it have been my monitor all this time breaking my heart. :D. Im just after swaping the monitor for a tv. temp only :(. But the screen is soooooooooooooooooo BIG . and the writing is so fine and omg i feel like a new PC has entered. :eek:. Oh quite happy for now if it supports it. just means i will have to buy a new tv

    ive mine hooked up to a 47inch it makes me feel like I own the internet lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Oh i would love to have a 47in. but im happy with my 23in here for the moment it beats that old dog of a monitor. makes the screen so Fresh looking. it was 15 years old. no wonder the computer was not able to cope. it was like what da fook have you stuck onto me. ha ha. So i figured out its the screen that has fooked up my graphics card. one problem sorted. 9thousand 9hundred 99 more to go. whoo. rock on windows . lol:D:D


  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    superfish, you've been asked before to stick to Windows discussion if you want to promote Linux go to the Linux forum.

    If somebody states they have a Windows issue then help with the actual Windows issue, we don't need Linux fanboy's here and suggest a whole new OS as a "solution".

    Based on your reg date you appear to be relatively new around here so I suggest you read the charter of forums your going to post in, just so your aware this is your final warning in relation to these types of posts from you.

    Finally the fact your accusing Fysh of throwing his/her "weight around" shows that its clear you don't appear to understand how boards works. Fysh is a normal user on this forum the same as you, however unlike you he/she understands the charter and was simply advising that you were in breach of it.


    shannon_tek, if you want to discuss Linux or want help with it I also suggest you go the the Linux forum otherwise please stick to Windows discussion here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Cabaal wrote: »
    superfish, you've been asked before to stick to Windows discussion if you want to promote Linux go to the Linux forum.

    If somebody states they have a Windows issue then help with the actual Windows issue, we don't need Linux fanboy's here and suggest a whole new OS as a "solution".

    Based on your reg date you appear to be relatively new around here so I suggest you read the charter of forums your going to post in, just so your aware this is your final warning in relation to these types of posts from you.

    Finally the fact your accusing Fysh of throwing his/her "weight around" shows that its clear you don't appear to understand how boards works. Fysh is a normal user on this forum the same as you, however unlike you he/she understands the charter and was simply advising that you were in breach of it.


    shannon_tek, if you want to discuss Linux or want help with it I also suggest you go the the Linux forum otherwise please stick to Windows discussion here.

    Sorry bout that. yes i suggested earlier in a post to switch to PM. But Fish has helped . and im trying to keep it on topic about my Windows. As i posted above i managed to solve the problem with my Graphics card. Turns out it was the Monitor a 15 year old monitor is just not upto the Job :pac:. So maybe my computer is able to take on windows 7 after all Microsoft have said i have all the drivers and there are know compatible issues anymore. I managed to install the Nvidia Manager last night. Done a fab job . corrected all the drivers and added new ones. I have a new screen you see.

    As for Linux i have posted in the Linux Section as of last night when i installed in. Thing i still wish to keep this on topic though. I know your only doing your job. But SF was only advising me. as pointed the desktop is not upto the Job.

    Thanks. hope no problems caused. :)


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    Back to the topic of running Win 7 on a Dimension 8400...

    I've discovered that we've still got a Dimension 8400 at work, with a reasonable Pentium 4 & 2GB RAM (Radeon X300 for graphics), which is doing nothing and probably awaiting disposal. If I can confirm it's not needed, I'll stick a copy of Win7 on it to see how it fares. It'd certainly be interesting to see how long the install takes and what if any problems arise - if I can get Win7 to behave on it shannon_tek should be able to as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    Considering windows 7 can run very well on a netbook, I'd expect it to run fine on a Pentium 4 2gb ram system


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Fysh wrote: »
    Back to the topic of running Win 7 on a Dimension 8400...

    I've discovered that we've still got a Dimension 8400 at work, with a reasonable Pentium 4 & 2GB RAM (Radeon X300 for graphics), which is doing nothing and probably awaiting disposal. If I can confirm it's not needed, I'll stick a copy of Win7 on it to see how it fares. It'd certainly be interesting to see how long the install takes and what if any problems arise - if I can get Win7 to behave on it shannon_tek should be able to as well.

    That extra gig may make a massive difference something im lacking. Thanks Fysh. Twould be great if you could test it out. instillation should take about half hour or so it does for me. if you could tell me does it take forever to load. for me from power up to the desktop a good 5 minutes at least This was a clean install and is slow.. Top open google chrome its 30seconds. fastest browse on the desktop. IE 4mins. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Can i rob the Ram from my Windows 95. its a sitting duck. unless the ram is 512mb its no good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,794 ✭✭✭cookie1977


    It's highly unlikely it's compatible and could actually end up slowing your machine down more. So no you cant.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    cookie1977 wrote: »
    It's highly unlikely it's compatible and could actually end up slowing your machine down more. So no you cant.

    damit. :D ?how would it slow it down . :eek: . thats interesting now


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    damit. :D ?how would it slow it down . :eek: . thats interesting now

    Any RAM module will have a stated operating clockspeed eg DDR-400 operates at 200MHz; however, in order to avoid compatibility problems the implementation is such that any module can also operate at lower clockspeeds, so that in a mixed-module environment your system will either automatically (if you're lucky) or manually (if you're not) set the memory clockspeed to match the slowest module. So if you've got eg 2 sticks of DDR-400 and a stick of DDR-200 (operating at 100MHz) your memory clockspeed drops to 100MHz across the board, so while you may have more memory available you'll probably also experience an overall slowdown.

    Given the age of most Win95 systems the amount of memory you'd gain will most likely be offset by the hit your memory clockspeed would take in order to avoid problems, and that's assuming the DIMMs are still working.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Regional Abroad Moderators Posts: 11,106 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fysh


    That extra gig may make a massive difference something im lacking. Thanks Fysh. Twould be great if you could test it out. instillation should take about half hour or so it does for me. if you could tell me does it take forever to load. for me from power up to the desktop a good 5 minutes at least This was a clean install and is slow.. Top open google chrome its 30seconds. fastest browse on the desktop. IE 4mins. :eek:

    Right, my clean installation is nearly finished at the moment, took about half an hour. I'm finishing up for the day now but will see how it behaves in the morning.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,024 ✭✭✭shannon_tek


    Fysh wrote: »
    Right, my clean installation is nearly finished at the moment, took about half an hour. I'm finishing up for the day now but will see how it behaves in the morning.

    Sounds about right. :D now it should only take you 2 and a half days to power up . ha ha ha ha. Na if it beats my 5mins+ then i know its an extra gig is needed.

    Thats excluding full loading of programmes/ just from pushing the power button to getting past the black windows screen. No password and the welcome screen to the desktop. all that 5mins. my laptop. 1minute to the desktop no password.


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