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Most Expensive Fillet Steak

  • 14-06-2011 10:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27


    Last weekend I was asked to pay 46.99 euro per kg of fillet steak in Tormey's butcher in the Galway shopping centre. Its 27.99 in tesco and around the same in SuperValu (it was a couple of months ago). Does anyone else think 47 euro is a bit insane? It'll be cheaper to get a lump of gold next!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,939 ✭✭✭ballsymchugh


    meat from a butcher is infinitely better than that from tesco. the only thing that comes close is superquinn, but that's still a long way off.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭Hal Emmerich


    Try Aldi range.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    Try Aldi range.

    Are people ever going to compare like with like anymore?

    thats like saying jasus i was charged €2000 for a diamond the other day but i know i can get shiney glass in aldi for €2.99.

    If the beef is hung for longer you get a better quality/tasting product but it also costs more, if the breed is different it can also cost more. From my experience albeit a while ago there was a marked difference in meat going to different supermarkets and what one supermarket would call loin another would call shoulder.

    There are many different reasons why one similar piece of meat would cost more or less than another.

    Im not saying that the price isnt too high but until you get the facts you cant compare one with the other.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭munsterleinster


    Try Aldi range.
    Shelflife wrote: »
    Are people ever going to compare like with like anymore?

    thats like saying jasus i was charged €2000 for a diamond the other day but i know i can get shiney glass in aldi for €2.99..

    You obviously havn't tried the Aidi steak as you're talking out your ar$e.

    Go to Aldi. Don't even bother with the fillet and pick up one if their Striploin steaks. Not cheap at €12 but they are the best steaks I've ever bought in Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    You obviously havn't tried the Aidi steak as you're talking out your ar$e.

    Go to Aldi. Don't even bother with the fillet and pick up one if their Striploin steaks. Not cheap at €12 but they are the best steaks I've ever bought in Ireland.

    Where did i say that the aldi steaks werent nice? the op was querying why one shop was alot dearer than another, i gave him a reasoned answer.

    you come along and tell me that im talking out of my arse and give no opinion at all on the the ops query ????


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    Shelflife wrote: »
    If the beef is hung for longer you get a better quality/tasting product but it also costs more, if the breed is different it can also cost more.
    Aldi is 18 day hung dry aged Angus. Shop there OP, your problem is solved.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,296 ✭✭✭Frank Black


    Shelflife wrote: »

    There are many different reasons why one similar piece of meat would cost more or less than another.


    In this case the reason is most likely an excessive profit margin by the butchers rather than any of the alternative grounds you give.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 193 ✭✭jett


    The ALDI striploins are fine and good value, however you have to root through em all to find the best.
    Mind you that goes for any product.
    The most expensive steak is a cheap one thats crap.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,077 ✭✭✭Shelflife


    In this case the reason is most likely an excessive profit margin by the butchers rather than any of the alternative grounds you give.
    Shelflife wrote: »
    There are many different reasons why one similar piece of meat would cost more or less than another.

    Im not saying that the price isnt too high but until you get the facts you cant compare one with the other.

    I said that could be one of the reasons too as you can see !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭mcwhirter


    Aldi steaks are 2nd best I've ever had, the best was a T-bone direct from butchers personal cold room, so Aldi must be doing something right.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭niallam


    I found Aldi striploin to be terrible, bought it once and never will again. So hard to get consistently good meat in any supermarket, even a butcher can get a slightly bad batch from time to time.
    At least buying from a local butcher you can bring it back or tell him it was tough last time and he'll entertain you and hopefully look after you, try that one in Aldi...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,300 ✭✭✭CiaranC


    The specially selected steak in Aldi is consistantly good. The rib-eye in particular is fantastic. I have asked many times, but am yet to be pointed to a butcher in Dublin City who can provide better quality steak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭themandan6611


    CiaranC wrote: »
    The specially selected steak in Aldi is consistantly good. The rib-eye in particular is fantastic. I have asked many times, but am yet to be pointed to a butcher in Dublin City who can provide better quality steak.

    try Fallon & Byrne butchers, lovely tenderloin fillet (expensive tho)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭old_aussie


    Aldi for good taste and value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭prettygurrly


    in answer to the OPs question....

    we would buy fillet steak from our butcher for a special occasion and i've never paid that much for it. it's usually around the 25 euro per kilo price. so enough meat for the two of us is about 20 euro. i would expect that a good butchers (like ours) would be similar to the OPs butcher. the only thing i can think of is that the meat is organic. i dont know how anyone could charge such a price unless they put the special "O" word in front of it. It's a licence to charge a price out of the sky when organic is in the description.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,494 ✭✭✭m.j.w


    in answer to the OPs question....

    we would buy fillet steak from our butcher for a special occasion and i've never paid that much for it. it's usually around the 25 euro per kilo price. so enough meat for the two of us is about 20 euro. i would expect that a good butchers (like ours) would be similar to the OPs butcher. the only thing i can think of is that the meat is organic. i dont know how anyone could charge such a price unless they put the special "O" word in front of it. It's a licence to charge a price out of the sky when organic is in the description.

    are you sure thats right? 25 for a kilo of fillet steak seems very cheap. even aldis steaks work out to be per pack €12.99 * (400g, €32.48 per kg)

    I went to aldi to get the steaks after seeing alot of threads on boards about them and didnt end up buying. They are very small and would not have filled me. A pack is 400 grams which is 14 ounces so each steak is 7 ounces which is not big


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 727 ✭✭✭prettygurrly


    m.j.w wrote: »
    are you sure thats right? 25 for a kilo of fillet steak seems very cheap. even aldis steaks work out to be per pack €12.99 * (400g, €32.48 per kg)

    I went to aldi to get the steaks after seeing alot of threads on boards about them and didnt end up buying. They are very small and would not have filled me. A pack is 400 grams which is 14 ounces so each steak is 7 ounces which is not big

    well you see that's the thing, when i was writing the post i was trying to remember how much we usually pay and if it's per lb or per kg. but i do know that for two people we never pay more than 22 euro and we get a pretty large piece for two people (we like our meat). I find it hard to imagine that we're only buying 500g which would bring it up to 44 euro per kilo. so possibly the price per kilo is closer to 30/35? I still think the OPs price was extortionate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,625 ✭✭✭wmpdd3


    This sounds about right:

    Superquinn: Fillet steak €49.99 / kg
    Tesco Finest Fillet steak €35.35 / kg
    Tesco Fresh Fillet steak €30.99 / kg
    Tesco Organic Fillet steak €35.95 / kg

    (I only checked online places)

    http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=263227272

    http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=267456076

    http://www.tesco.ie/groceries/Product/Details/?id=267459313

    http://www.superquinn.ie/shopping/shopping/shop.aspx?prodid=90072724


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    lol it still surprises me how ignorant some people are when it comes to food first off you say the fillet was 46 a kilo so im guessing one steak cost u what 6 euro , doesn sound expensive to me for a good quailty steak at least you can eat it and know it has been produced locally with attention to quality not mass produced and thrown into a pack in a supermarket and by the way i work in a factory that puts meat into aldi and lidil and i wouldn eat it and either would you if you saw the beef that goes into it there is a reson why its cheap ,but like i say some people dont care less what they put into their body as long as its cheap,


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    in answer to the OPs question....

    we would buy fillet steak from our butcher for a special occasion and i've never paid that much for it. it's usually around the 25 euro per kilo price. so enough meat for the two of us is about 20 euro. i would expect that a good butchers (like ours) would be similar to the OPs butcher. the only thing i can think of is that the meat is organic. i dont know how anyone could charge such a price unless they put the special "O" word in front of it. It's a licence to charge a price out of the sky when organic is in the description.


    i think you are wrong about that price i cant even buy fillet steak at that price direct from the factory at that price so i dont see how a butcher could sell ait under cost price


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    prince3080 wrote: »
    ... i work in a factory that puts meat into aldi and lidil and i wouldn eat it and either would you if you saw the beef that goes into it there is a reson why its cheap ,but like i say some people dont care less what they put into their body as long as its cheap,

    You know, that's a big claim to make. I think you should back it up or withdraw it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    You know, that's a big claim to make. I think you should back it up or withdraw it.[/QUOT

    Thats my opinon which i am entitled to and am basing on the fact that i actually deal with both butchers and supermarkets , the differnce between the two is vast when it comes to product , supermarkets are all about price not quality where the majority ( not all ) butchers are the opposite , their livelyhoods depend on the products they sell being better than the supermarkets, its a fair point that the man buying 2 or 3 animals a week who can pick them out will be better than the company buying 500 a week who pick on the weights and conformation of a product , some beef in supermarkets is good but its a pick and mix as you will not be guarnteed quailty , personally i would rather buy it somewhere where i know its good


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    well you see that's the thing, when i was writing the post i was trying to remember how much we usually pay and if it's per lb or per kg. but i do know that for two people we never pay more than 22 euro and we get a pretty large piece for two people (we like our meat). I find it hard to imagine that we're only buying 500g which would bring it up to 44 euro per kilo. so possibly the price per kilo is closer to 30/35? I still think the OPs price was extortionate.

    I think this poster is talking about another cut of meat - one large piece between 2 people? Fillet steaks are individual cuts - unless you're buying one large piece, cooking it and carving it yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭munsterleinster


    prince3080 wrote: »
    personally i would rather buy it somewhere where i know its good

    Like Aldi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Registered today and 3 posts to your name. I'll take your advice with a pinch of salt.

    I swear by the Aldi specially selected steaks. In fact I'm off to throw a striploin in the pan right now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    prince3080 wrote: »
    personally i would rather buy it somewhere where i know its good

    Like Aldi?


    lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    ... Thats my opinon which i am entitled to and am basing on the fact that i actually deal with both butchers and supermarkets , the differnce between the two is vast when it comes to product , supermarkets are all about price not quality where the majority ( not all ) butchers are the opposite , their livelyhoods depend on the products they sell being better than the supermarkets, its a fair point that the man buying 2 or 3 animals a week who can pick them out will be better than the company buying 500 a week who pick on the weights and conformation of a product , some beef in supermarkets is good but its a pick and mix as you will not be guarnteed quailty , personally i would rather buy it somewhere where i know its good

    You are entitled to your opinion. Whether you are entitled to express your opinion here is a matter of forum rules and how the mods interpret them.

    In my opinion, you have not backed up your bad-mouthing of two retail firms, and your setting yourself as having some specialist knowledge is unprovable. And your depiction of butchers buying 2 or 3 animals a week comes from the 1950s. Have you noticed deliveries to butchers' shops? Lots of boxes of meat from the factory.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    stimpson wrote: »
    Registered today and 3 posts to your name. I'll take your advice with a pinch of salt.

    I swear by the Aldi specially selected steaks. In fact I'm off to throw a striploin in the pan

    registered bout six months ago and don't tend to post bout things I don't know about that's why iv only 3 posts but like I said some people dont know good beef from bad beef , keep that pinch of salt for ur specially selected steak ul need it lol and specially selected by who ? a guy getting 8 euro an hour to put a label on a box


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    ... Thats my opinon which i am entitled to and am basing on the fact that i actually deal with both butchers and supermarkets , the differnce between the two is vast when it comes to product , supermarkets are all about price not quality where the majority ( not all ) butchers are the opposite , their livelyhoods depend on the products they sell being better than the supermarkets, its a fair point that the man buying 2 or 3 animals a week who can pick them out will be better than the company buying 500 a week who pick on the weights and conformation of a product , some beef in supermarkets is good but its a pick and mix as you will not be guarnteed quailty , personally i would rather buy it somewhere where i know its good

    You are entitled to your opinion. Whether you are entitled to express your opinion here is a matter of forum rules and how the mods interpret them.

    In my opinion, you have not backed up your bad-mouthing of two retail firms, and your setting yourself as having some specialist knowledge is unprovable. And your depiction of butchers buying 2 or 3 animals a week comes from the 1950s. Have you noticed deliveries to butchers' shops? Lots of boxes of meat from the factory.



    iv worked in d meat industry for over 10 years so I like to think I know what I'm talking about like I said in my previous post not all butchers are good but the majority of butchers from my experience are very strict on quality more so than price and 3 cattle ( 6 hinds and 6 fores )a week is the average a lot of shops are doing now and a lot buy carcass beef and bone themselves I am saying all supermarkets not just two are more concerned with price than quality as it's very rare a load would be rejected from a supermarket store for quality where butchers would tend to handpick on line or go through boxes in d chill , I never put myself forward as an expert just saying what i think ,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,828 ✭✭✭stimpson


    So where do you work?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    prince3080 wrote: »
    iv worked in d meat industry for over 10 years so I like to think I know what I'm talking about
    I never put myself forward as an expert just saying what i think ,

    Make your mind up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9 prince3080


    prince3080 wrote: »
    iv worked in d meat industry for over 10 years so I like to think I know what I'm talking about
    I never put myself forward as an expert just saying what i think ,

    Make your mind up.


    I know my stuff but I'm not an expert there is always someone that knows more


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭Hal Emmerich


    prince3080 wrote: »
    I know my stuff but I'm not an expert there is always someone that knows more
    Are you a farmer/butcher?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭punchdrunk


    Last weekend I was asked to pay 46.99 euro per kg of fillet steak in Tormey's butcher in the Galway shopping centre. Its 27.99 in tesco and around the same in SuperValu (it was a couple of months ago). Does anyone else think 47 euro is a bit insane? It'll be cheaper to get a lump of gold next!

    did you say yes??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    I didn't know Aldi did striploin, thought it was just ribeye and fillet.
    prince3080 wrote: »
    registered bout six months ago and don't tend to post bout things I don't know about that's why iv only 3 posts but like I said some people dont know good beef from bad beef , keep that pinch of salt for ur specially selected steak ul need it lol and specially selected by who ? a guy getting 8 euro an hour to put a label on a box
    prince3080 wrote: »
    I know my stuff but I'm not an expert there is always someone that knows more

    You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about if you think the Aldi specially selected is poor quality meat. Have you ever had one?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    prince3080 wrote: »
    I know my stuff but I'm not an expert there is always someone that knows more

    You got that right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    If its of any use a quick look at online butchers in the UK show fillet steak ranging grom £38 to £65. Looks like we get good value over here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 867 ✭✭✭Nanazolie


    Can't you buy your meat at meat factories that have recently opened to the public? There are a few near in my area and they sell meat at wholesale prices but you don't have to buy in bulk. They seem very good value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Hiawog


    Beef in Ireland tends to come from 18 month old heifers and to supply demand for lean and tender then that's what we get. For me, while fillet is tender, it's too lean to be tasteful as is ribeye. You should really stick with striploin (also known as New York Steak or Porterhouse).

    If you can find steak with veins of fat running through (known as marbling) then you are onto a winner. Ireland used to breed a lot of Aberdeen Angus cattle and they were the best for marbling/flavour. They are a little rarer these days as they do not grow large enough for a good return for farmers.

    I tend to favour striploin from supermarkets or prime cut sirloin from butchers. The Aldi steak range are Aberdeen Angus and are well worth a punt - so it's a experience, you form and opinion and life is richer.

    As for the price, well that alone would choke you. You do have to remember that a good beast supplied to a butcher is about 400 - 450lbs, less than 20lbs is fillet and not all is usable as steak.

    Finally, and to compare us internationally, take a look at this link. This Kobe Japanese beef is the worldwide Holy Grail of beef (as with Matsusaka and Yonezawa beef), note the marbling and the price!! About €65/kilo but I'm told it's an experience beyond comparison.

    http://www.primetimemeats.net.au/Beef-Kobe-Wagyu-Australia-KobeBeefTenderloin-Beef.html


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,806 ✭✭✭D1stant


    meat from a butcher is infinitely better than that from tesco. the only thing that comes close is superquinn, but that's still a long way off.

    I've heard this many times and in my experience its not true

    Why would a butcher always be better?

    I have a local butcher - very good reputation, quite expensive and quality very good. I also have a SuperValu around the corner and the meat is better there than in the butcher and marginally cheaper also

    Why cant a butcher who works in Supervalu be every bit as good as an independent?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭maxer68


    D1stant wrote: »
    I've heard this many times and in my experience its not true

    Why would a butcher always be better?

    I have a local butcher - very good reputation, quite expensive and quality very good. I also have a SuperValu around the corner and the meat is better there than in the butcher and marginally cheaper also

    Why cant a butcher who works in Supervalu be every bit as good as an independent?

    Because the butcher in a supermarket has to work with the meat given to him and chosen by a buyer in a office whereas a local independent butcher chooses himself what he want to work with and what quality to sell.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭keithclancy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28 Hiawog


    Three important things.

    1. What is the method of choosing the animals. Who makes the choice and are they experienced enough to look at the animal in a field and know it's quality as consumable beef. So, sourcing is important.

    2. Aging the carcass. Is it dry aged or wet. Dry is a carcass hung in a fridge (14+days) or is seamed and vacuum packed and then aged. Seaming is when it's carved to individual muscles. Both methods have advantages.

    3. Cutting. Some outlets stretch their sirloin steak a little to far into the round steak area and some their striploin to far into the rib. Yes, fillet cannot really be faked but I've seen it tried.

    The question is, who do you trust to have proper supply chain management. I have one supermarket and several butchers. If you are going to pay top price (on an ongoing basis) I'd recommend research.

    My brother in law spent two hours researching a new €100 hard drive recently and he knows absolutely nothing of the food he eats!!

    In 30 seconds I found this:

    http://tomfridaysmarket.com/Know%20your%20cuts%20of%20BEEF.html

    Incidentally, and it may seem obvious, T-Bone steak is both striploin and fillet - just on the bone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    I would wonder had the Aldi fans ever had much steak in their lives? Before Aldi arrived.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭Hal Emmerich


    finbarrk wrote: »
    I would wonder had the Aldi fans ever had much steak in their lives? Before Aldi arrived.
    Google Translate
    =
    I wonder did the riff raff ever have steak before Aldi arrived.......?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,397 ✭✭✭Paparazzo


    finbarrk wrote: »
    I would wonder had the Aldi fans ever had much steak in their lives? Before Aldi arrived.

    I have. I've tried loads of butchers, they can be very hit and miss. And the Aldi steaks are consistantly good and I don't bother going anywhere else now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    CiaranC wrote: »
    The specially selected steak in Aldi is consistantly good. The rib-eye in particular is fantastic. I have asked many times, but am yet to be pointed to a butcher in Dublin City who can provide better quality steak.


    +1.

    I buy either the ribeye or the striploin every week. Definitely an odd item amongst all the cheap Aldi stuff but no steaks anywhere else beat them.

    Plus they're Irish meat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,378 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    finbarrk wrote: »
    I would wonder had the Aldi fans ever had much steak in their lives? Before Aldi arrived.


    Some of us can afford to buy Superquinn and M&S but actually like the stuff that Aldi sells.

    When I see the proportion of non-Irish customers when I shop in either Aldi or Lidl, I just think we're very lazy consumers.

    Their steaks are a gem though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 12,333 ✭✭✭✭JONJO THE MISER


    Had 2 of the fillet steaks from Aldi today, great steaks but like all fillet steaks a bit tasteless, should of went for the sirloin:(


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