repeating the leaving next year

casperkiid

So I've known pretty much all this year that I was going to have to repeat my leaving next June. I'm actually going to do chronically bad. I don't really know a lot about repeating so I'm looking into it at the moment. If anyone knows anything at all that you think I should know or would be handy to know, would be great

My subjects this year are maths(o), english(h), irish(h), french(h), geography(h), home ec(h), art(h). I know the maths and irish courses are changed and I'm thinking of dropping art depending on my results in August.. any ideas??

Mysteriouschic

I've been thinking the same thing some of my exams having gone as well as I expected and I was relying on those for points.

I've looked into rathmines and plunketts which do repeat leaving cert and it's a college.

You could always do a plc course?

I can't as they don't do anything I want to do. My only option is to repeat.

The Shtig

You can do Irish and maths this year (check what your course entry requirements are e.g a pass in both) and next year do the six subjects for the points.

casperkiid

I'm the same regarding PLC, not an option and I wont have enough points for any thing any way so I'd much rather repeat.

casperkiid

The Shtig wrote: »

You can do Irish and maths this year (check what your course entry requirements are e.g a pass in both) and next year do the six subjects for the points.

yeah I'm thinking of doing that depending on how Irish goes, maths paper one was terrible and I need that..

Is it true that if you fail maths you fail your leaving cert and that you cant repeat next year?

The Shtig

Sorry I miscounted your subjects but you can still get your requirement in maths this year and get it out of the way. Find out what is changing on the Irish course and maybe you could catch up with it over the summer.

Mysteriouschic

I think Rathmines you need to apply early and you get interviewed not sure though. But Plunketts you can apply in august I think as I looked they have enrolment dates.

The Shtig

casperkiid wrote: »

yeah I'm thinking of doing that depending on how Irish goes, maths paper one was terrible and I need that..

Is it true that if you fail maths you fail your leaving cert and that you cant repeat next year?

You can still repeat the leaving but you will need to do maths next year, I think you need maths for most colleges.

Study for paper 2 tomorrow and just try your best. Attempt every question, you'd be surprised by how many marks you can get. Our teacher said that if you only did the part A's and B's of every question you would get 60% assuming you answered them correctly.

casperkiid

yeah I'm hoping it will be a better paper but I'll more then likely be repeating it. Any opinions on project maths? I did the normal paper and I have no idea about the new course..

Platinum2010

The problem with repeating is that although the courses are different and easier , there is supposedly a lot of new/ different material or so I'm told anyway

Mysteriouschic

If theres a requirement you need for a college just try and get it this year . Say like in english or maths. English the course changes and honours would be hard to do as it's a new course for 2 years an the poets change and everything.

daniels.ducks

I think that I will repeat again. There are too many benefits:

1. The repeat class this year got a ratio of 13/14 students to every teacher.
2. You would be more mature going in next year.
3. You can drop Irish/Maths.
4. The students get extra classes to make up for the ones they dropped which means 5/10 extra classes a week.
5. You have most of your optional subjects covered, which means a year of revision and self-improvement.
6. Whatever catching up that needs to be done in English/Maths can be done during the extra classes.
7. You should have an idea of what the LC year is about. You'll study more efficiently (learn from the previous years mistakes regarding school work). For me I will get another chance to win something with the footballers in the school. We had so much potential to win the all Ireland. Fell apart due to injuries.

So I think repeating is the best way to go.

Mysteriouschic

I awant to repeat as I don't want to put those grades that I'll probably get on my CV everyone will be judging based on those. I don't even know if I'll get 300 points.
It would be nice to repeat in a college , not like school.
Wheres everyone thinking of repeating?

NotExactly

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

I awant to repeat as I don't want to put those grades that I'll probably get on my CV everyone will be judging based on those. I don't even know if I'll get 300 points.
It would be nice to repeat in a college , not like school.

Don't repeat just because you want to make your CV look better, repeat if you get offered a course you don't want.

LittleMissLost

I'm thinking of repeating but I'm 18 now and will be 19 during the summer. If I repeat I'll be 19 doing the LC the second time and 20 going to college!

I'd love to repeat but I think I'm too old

Mysteriouschic

NotExactly wrote: »

Don't repeat just because you want to make your CV look better, repeat if you get offered a course you don't want.

I'm not repeating for the cv. It's not likely I'll get the points. So gonna have to repeat.

UrbanSea

LittleMissLost wrote: »

I'm thinking of repeating but I'm 18 now and will be 19 during the summer. If I repeat I'll be 19 doing the LC the second time and 20 going to college!

I'd love to repeat but I think I'm too old

Trust me,you're not. There are people in my year repeating who already have college degrees and came back.

The Sparrow

LittleMissLost wrote: »

I'm thinking of repeating but I'm 18 now and will be 19 during the summer. If I repeat I'll be 19 doing the LC the second time and 20 going to college!

I'd love to repeat but I think I'm too old

Honestly i wouldn't worry about that at all. I was the same age when I repeated and it made no difference whatsoever. College will be full of loads of people from different backgrounds and ages. From mature students to people who transferred from other courses that they didn't like, 20 is not old at all.

I repeated my LC ten odd years ago and I definitely list it as one of my wisest decisions. Obviously it was a pain at the time but once I got over the first couple of days it was grand and now when I look back it was actually a fun year. And I went from having the option of rubbish sounding plc courses in Letterkenny to the pick of any university that I wanted.

I would definitely advise anyone repeating to be really smart about it and look at your results and just drop your worst subjects. For me that was dropping Maths and Irish and taking up Business and Home Ec. I couldn't beleive how easy Business was and I ended up with an A2 in Hons and was gutted I hadn't done it for the first LC.

ladybike

daniels.ducks wrote: »

I think that I will repeat again. There are too many benefits:

1. The repeat class this year got a ratio of 13/14 students to every teacher.
2. You would be more mature going in next year.
3. You can drop Irish/Maths.
4. The students get extra classes to make up for the ones they dropped which means 5/10 extra classes a week.
5. You have most of your optional subjects covered, which means a year of revision and self-improvement.
6. Whatever catching up that needs to be done in English/Maths can be done during the extra classes.
7. You should have an idea of what the LC year is about. You'll study more efficiently (learn from the previous years mistakes regarding school work). For me I will get another chance to win something with the footballers in the school. We had so much potential to win the all Ireland. Fell apart due to injuries.

So I think repeating is the best way to go.

Mate, I'm just doing the Leaving Cert this year for the 2nd time, I repeated.. I'm probably not speaking for everyone when I say this, but you have to be EXTREMELY well disiplined to;

1) learn from the previous years mistakes.
2) study more efficiently.

Not saying you won't do it, but it was what I was saying to myself last year.. You might have the best intentions, but if you didn't sit down and do it this year, ask yourself will you sit down and do it next year?

90% of the people who repeat get on better the 2nd time they do it but its only about 1 in every 20 that really shoots up in points, the others are just marginal improvements because as you have correctly pointed out, they have an extra years experience.

As for the extra years maturity, it doesn't exist. If you can't decide not you are going to work flat out for the next week and a half, spending every last minute with notes or books in your hand, nothing is going to change in 2 short summer holiday months..

As I said, I'm probably not speaking for everyone when I say this, but it is really difficult. I would recommend it for someone who tried really hard, and ended up 5-15 points short of their course.. But for anyone else, I say stay well away..

Your decision though, don't take it lightly and every luck to you!
(By the way, in case you are wondering, I got 430 last year, got 450 in my mocks this year and expect to end up on about 470-480, for Primary Teaching)

._.

LittleMissLost wrote: »

I'm thinking of repeating but I'm 18 now and will be 19 during the summer. If I repeat I'll be 19 doing the LC the second time and 20 going to college!

I'd love to repeat but I think I'm too old

Many people are/turn 20 during their first year of college, it's not that big a deal

Fbjm

Hi, I repeated this year. You can honestly leave it until September to apply for some places but I wouldn't advise it, I ended up in a kip in town. Just try your best for this years leaving and worry about repeating in august.

Hellomychum92

Hey all,
i am currently doing my lc for the second time round and all i can say is if you can avoid repeating at all costs..... at the start you are so motivated to do well, to study and to do all your work but it only lasts awhile well for most people it does.

For some people repeating is very good cause they will work very well for all of the year, but for the rest its hard because most of their friends are in college and that were they want to be as well.

If you are seriously thinking about repeating make sure that it is the right choice for you and that its not your parents/guardians pushing you into it, you have to want it as well.

This year i repeated in Rathmines college, the college itself is lovely, people and teachers are friendly, but the one thing i will say is that if you want to achieve to your potential then you yourself have to put the work in because apart from maybe two or three teachers they leave it all to you, yes they teach the class but after that its down to you.

If you are thinking of going to Rathmines, you should either apply now or the day after the results come out as it is a very popular college to repeat in, the cost of the course is €300 without a medical card but I am not sure on the cost with a medical card.

Hope this has helped yous, let me no if yous need to no anything else

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Hey all,
i am currently doing my lc for the second time round and all i can say is if you can avoid repeating at all costs..... at the start you are so motivated to do well, to study and to do all your work but it only lasts awhile well for most people it does.

For some people repeating is very good cause they will work very well for all of the year, but for the rest its hard because most of their friends are in college and that were they want to be as well.

If you are seriously thinking about repeating make sure that it is the right choice for you and that its not your parents/guardians pushing you into it, you have to want it as well.

This year i repeated in Rathmines college, the college itself is lovely, people and teachers are friendly, but the one thing i will say is that if you want to achieve to your potential then you yourself have to put the work in because apart from maybe two or three teachers they leave it all to you, yes they teach the class but after that its down to you.

If you are thinking of going to Rathmines, you should either apply now or the day after the results come out as it is a very popular college to repeat in, the cost of the course is €300 without a medical card but I am not sure on the cost with a medical card.

Hope this has helped yous, let me no if yous need to no anything else

Do they do Ag science in Rathmines? I had a look at the website it had other good subjects though.

lisabisa

LittleMissLost wrote: »

I'm thinking of repeating but I'm 18 now and will be 19 during the summer. If I repeat I'll be 19 doing the LC the second time and 20 going to college!

I'd love to repeat but I think I'm too old

You're not too old, I'm turning 20 in sept and I repeated in plunkets this year. There's loads of people who are 23/24 repeating. I plan on getting my place this year and deferring it. Think about it, you don't retire til youre 65? It's never too old to go to college.

Also anyone wanting to repeat in plunkets, you really have to put the work in. They're not strict and treat you like an adult. It's up to you to work, just like college will be. And you don't need to decide now, enrolment for plunkets is after the results so just try your best and if needs be you can decide in august

Hellomychum92

Hey, no they dont do ag science in Rathmines but i no girl in my year this year who just arranged to go to her old school for classes in this subject but is sitting the exam in Rathmines

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Hey, no they dont do ag science in Rathmines but i no girl in my year this year who just arranged to go to her old school for classes in this subject but is sitting the exam in Rathmines

Oh right , my school doesn't do that, I could always get grinds outside or not do it. Rathmines has more subjects to choose from from most places I've looked at liking the idea of going there. How many people to you get in the year is there many? Or are the subjects in like certain bands and you have to choose from them and hope they don't clash with another subject?

LittleMissLost

Do you think it would be better to repeat in your old school where it is familiar and you know all the teachers etc or is it better to go to a new special repeat/grind school?

theowen

You don't have to repeat Maths, Irish or English, as long as you get the minimum requirement for your course (exception being Med, when you have to repeat all 3). Just thought I'd point that out:rolleyes:

Other that than, repeat if you need to. Don't do a course that's 5th on your CAO and you're only doing because you feel that you have to. College is an amazing experience if you're studying your dream course there. Studying becomes a somewhat enjoyable experience, rather than a chore.

And regards to this age thing, there's no difference between an 18 and 19 year old. It will make no difference when you're in college (other than that you'll be able to get into over 19s clubs). Twenty years from now you'll be glad you repeated, have your dream course, dream job and are enjoying life day to day because of this.

Hellomychum92

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Oh right , my school doesn't do that, I could always get grinds outside or not do it. Rathmines has more subjects to choose from from most places I've looked at liking the idea of going there. How many people to you get in the year is there many? Or are the subjects in like certain bands and you have to choose from them and hope they don't clash with another subject?

Yeah there is a good few in the year but if you do end up going you will notice a bigger number at the start and then some people find out that repeating is not for them so they drop out, Em well not in bands really like there is one big timetable and diff groups subjects and when you go for your interview and get your place they will make up a timetable for you and try best do your subjects dont clash, only 2 of my subjects clashed which where Spanish and Accounting, so i dropped accounting and picked geography which suited me better cause i didnt really like accounting What subjects are you thinking of doing?

Mysteriouschic

LittleMissLost wrote: »

Do you think it would be better to repeat in your old school where it is familiar and you know all the teachers etc or is it better to go to a new special repeat/grind school?

I'd say it's better to go to a grind school. Everyone will be in the same boat . Whereas if you went back to school.Everyone will know your repeating an then with all your year gone. You'd feel more comfortable in a repeat place , an with new people. If you really liked your school then you could. If I went to mine I'd just do as bad an they don't do half the subjects I want. It'd be a like a new fresh start to put things right . Where do you feel you'd be the most happy?

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Yeah there is a good few in the year but if you do end up going you will notice a bigger number at the start and then some people find out that repeating is not for them so they drop out, Em well not in bands really like there is one big timetable and diff groups subjects and when you go for your interview and get your place they will make up a timetable for you and try best do your subjects dont clash, only 2 of my subjects clashed which where Spanish and Accounting, so i dropped accounting and picked geography which suited me better cause i didnt really like accounting What subjects are you thinking of doing?

geography, maths ,business (I do those currently) an take up classical studies, economics, biology and maybe spanish.

daniels.ducks

I don't think I pointed out my personal reasons.
I don't think I worked hard enough to get my potential. I could easily get 500 points if I started working in September rater than May. I picked my course at the start of the year and it is 390/400 points, I worked to get that amount of points.
I don't agree with the point that you are not more mature. Two months can make a huge difference.
Also another reason is that this recession will take a while to get out of. The longer we spend at education the better.

casperkiid

LittleMissLost wrote: »

I'm thinking of repeating but I'm 18 now and will be 19 during the summer. If I repeat I'll be 19 doing the LC the second time and 20 going to college!

I'd love to repeat but I think I'm too old

you're not too old! I know a girl who repeated this year and she was 20 in April but she looks about 17. I turned 18 in May so I'll be 19 doing the leaving next year. I used to care that I'd be too old going into college but a year doesn't really matter

regarding where I'd repeat, I'm not sure because there is only one school that specialises in a repeat year near where I live.

And to be honest, I'm not trying to be cocky or anything but I know I could get 500 points too, the original aim was 530 but I'd be lucky to get 300 in August, no joke..

casperkiid

What subjects would you recommend taking up?

Hellomychum92

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

geography, maths ,business (I do those currently) an take up classical studies, economics, biology and maybe spanish.

Are you thinking of taking up four new subjects? that would be so much pressure and yourself cause remember you have to cram 2 years of a subject into one? and also the maths will be changed cause it will be project maths, have you ever done Spanish before?

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Are you thinking of taking up four new subjects? that would be so much pressure and yourself cause remember you have to cram 2 years of a subject into one? and also the maths will be changed cause it will be project maths, have you ever done Spanish before?

Yeah 4 new , I done spanish for 2 yrs about 5 yrs ago but I still remember a little of it . I would look over it during the summer , and practise.Or I could leave that out and do the other 3.

Hellomychum92

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Yeah 4 new , I done spanish for 2 yrs about 5 yrs ago but I still remember a little of it . I would look over it during the summer , and practise.Or I could leave that out and do the other 3.

Oh god i think you would be mad to pick up three or four new subjects seriously like that is so much pressure on yourself, what do you want to do in college? if i could advise any 2 subjects to pick up it would be Geography and Economics

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Oh god i think you would be mad to pick up three or four new subjects seriously like that is so much pressure on yourself, what do you want to do in college? if i could advise any 2 subjects to pick up it would be Geography and Economics

Geographys not one of the ones I'm picking up. I might just leave it at 3 and leave out spanish . I had a look at the exams they don't look too bad. I only want to do IT most are around 300pts.

Hellomychum92

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Geographys not one of the ones I'm picking up. I might just leave it at 3 and leave out spanish . I had a look at the exams they don't look too bad. I only want to do IT most are around 300pts.

Yeah but geography is a subject you can pick up easy marks from and plus you a fiels study so that 20 % already

Biology would be very hard to do in one year as it is such a big course like most people even find it hard to do in two years, but thats just my advice

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Yeah but geography is a subject you can pick up easy marks from and plus you a fiels study so that 20 % already

Biology would be very hard to do in one year as it is such a big course like most people even find it hard to do in two years, but thats just my advice

Yeah I'm keeping geography I'm doing that for my LC this year, or leave out biology and do the other 3 . Then do 5 honours and have maths and spanish as ordinary.

Hellomychum92

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

Yeah I'm keeping geography I'm doing that for my LC this year, or leave out biology and do the other 3 . Then do 5 honours and have maths and spanish as ordinary.

Oh sorry i didnt no you already done biology, yeah its just biology is such a big course, yeah you should do ordinary spanish just one your willing to study for it and as well the Spanish teacher in Rathmines is amazing, best Spanish teacher i have ever had shes a native spanish speaker shes from Madrid

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Oh sorry i didnt no you already done biology, yeah its just biology is such a big course, yeah you should do ordinary spanish just one your willing to study for it and as well the Spanish teacher in Rathmines is amazing, best Spanish teacher i have ever had shes a native spanish speaker shes from Madrid

I might leave out biology if it's really , I only done science in the jc. Then it's only the economics , spanish , classical studies I'm taking up. I'd like spanish. I wouldn't do french I know I won't work at it I just hate it. I've always preferred spanish and more likely to put in the effort .

Hellomychum92

Mysteriouschic wrote: »

I might leave out biology if it's really , I only done science in the jc. Then it's only the economics , spanish , classical studies I'm taking up. I'd like spanish. I wouldn't do french I know I won't work at it I just hate it. I've always preferred spanish and more likely to put in the effort .

Yeah better off doing that Th economics teacher in rathmines is ok as well I don't no who teaches the classical studies so no help with that

Mysteriouschic

Hellomychum92 wrote: »

Yeah better off doing that Th economics teacher in rathmines is ok as well I don't no who teaches the classical studies so no help with that

alright thanks for help