* Honours Maths paper 1 * AFTERMATH

JamJamJamJam

In anger I snapped my pen after the exam.
That was a good pen!

Look what they've reduced me to

brian93

TRAPASARMY wrote: »

LC from last year. Think its 1999 8 c the sphere last came up so it has come up before

it wasn't a sphere, lots had the sphere and the cone prepared. it was a bloody disc. Almost cried, but got my act together and hopefully scraped a B. Aaaaaaaargh!

what.to.do

cickybab wrote: »

Past exam paper's are only a money making gimic !!!

I found the exam ok to be honest. If you studied your text books and ignored the exam papers, ie, learn the notes in the text books off by heart and know the stuff inside out you would have been better prepared. True with any exam folks.

Prep question, past papers, question banks etc etc of any type of exam are just money making gimics for some cooperation with profit vested interests because they know the vast majority of people will just go "ah, il be grand if I just go over the, past, papers"

Thats the hard truth of it!

Em..you can get them online for free if its that big of a deal.

Maybe_Memories

Just saw the paper. Didn't look too bad in fairness.

xxpopopxx

what.to.do wrote: »

Oh god, do not look at the project maths paper unless you want to get really pissed off.

I looked..... I AM RAGING!!!!! how is that honours!??!? :mad::mad::mad::mad: Thats something OL can do or something you get as part a's in the books......I can't even..... omg!!!!!!!!!

what.to.do

xxpopopxx wrote: »

I looked..... I AM RAGING!!!!! how is that honours!??!? :mad::mad::mad::mad: Thats something OL can do or something you get as part a's in the books......I can't even..... omg!!!!!!!!!

I had to double check to the level I was looking at. I'm actually so annoyed. Someone who is at the same level of maths as me, could do very well in that paper, get a better grade, higher points, BAM, college place gone.

Over-thinking, jealous, annoyed and not a happy bunny. :mad:

aranciata

nommm wrote: »

Awful. Was crying at one stage. Luckily, once I calmed down I was able to do some of the questions. I think I did enough to pass, hopefully anyway.


I said n = 1,2,3,4 ... all the natural numbers. Do you think I'll get any marks for that?

I said n>0

will i get marks for that?
also i forgot to quadruple the area of the quadrant of the disc... will i lose much/many marks for that?

Laisurg

soccymonster wrote: »

My friend came out of it bawling because she really wanted the A1. Sounds horrible

Well in fairness now aiming for an A1 in higher maths is quite ambitious unless your amazing at maths.

Bad paper or not.

NotExactly

aranciata wrote: »

I think that's exactly why they made it so difficult. I don't want to be an alarmist, but if their intention is to make the old course (our course) seem as if it doesn't work and doesn't teach maths aswell as project maths will, they're not going to change the marking scheme. We're going to be just a statistic, we're going to be the people who the maths course and syllabus and direction, failed.

They won't let loads of people fail and have to potentially repeat and take up project Maths and it's only Paper 1, Paper 2 could be a lot easier.

aranciata wrote: »

I've never seen such a ¬theoretical¬ crock of SH*T. Should have done pass, could have gotten an A1.

No point in saying what you could have done, what's done is done i'm afraid.

Daniel S

Here are some photocopies of the paper. I apologise to those who, like myself, never want to see it again...

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JamJamJamJam

what.to.do wrote: »

Oh god, do not look at the project maths paper unless you want to get really pissed off.

Question 9 there was our question 8!

^^^ Area of a disc!

All I could think of is to find the volume of a cylinder and divide by h to get the area of its base.... Unfortunately the other 7 questions had me too bogged down to get that far in the exam :mad:

Daniel S

AnneElizabeth wrote: »

For anyone who wans to see the awful paper

Sorry that the images are so big!

In exactly one minute before you!!! :pac:

IfUSeekAmy

I didn't think it was completely very bad at all?

thought q1 a was an off putting start. as was 1 b (ii)

q2 I found perfect. my best q on the paper.

q3 was the worst. Neither my b or c parts worked out properly.

q5 was grand. Got a and c fully. B was odd but I had good attempts.

q6 was again a bit difficult but I had a fairly good attempt at it.

q7 all but c(ii) I found managable.

Initially had been hoping for a B1, think I got a B3, but, judging by comments the marking scheme will be very nice, and so we'll have to see.

Valin

kpac wrote: »

How the f*ck do you get the area of a disc in integration?

Draw the graph of the circle with centre (0,0) then do π∫y to get the area unfortunately that leaves you with the 'louser' special integral. SQR ROOT(r^2 - x^2) This is that hard one where you have to sub in rsinn for x and go from there. The workings take 9 lines and in the end you just end up with the intergral equalling 1. It's the worst of the worst according to my teacher and luckily we'd done it before.

nommm wrote: »

Awful. Was crying at one stage. Luckily, once I calmed down I was able to do some of the questions. I think I did enough to pass, hopefully anyway.


I said n = 1,2,3,4 ... all the natural numbers. Do you think I'll get any marks for that?

I reckon they will have to give you the marks if you wrote it down. That question at the start was brutal.

River Song

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

I swear to God. That was the most difficult maths paper I've ever done, and I've done most mocks, etc.! I swear to God I was going for an A, I won't even get a B!

The only thing is that 15-17% have to get A2/A1 grades...no matter how hard it is.

Ugh my teacher was right "Chances are they'll **** you over and come out next year saying "OH LOOK HOW GOOD PEOPLE TAKE TO PROJECT MATHS!!!"". Load of rubbish.

irish_man

i found this on wiki if its any use to anyone when i typed in "Use integration methods to establish the formula 2 A r = π for the area of a disc of radius r."

Man it looks so short as well. Didn't have a notion of it.

Catacomb

I either just about passed (with attempt marks) or just about failed. I feel like ****, I was actually hoping for a b3 or at least a high c and would have got it on any other paper.:mad:

This ****ed up my future, **** you leaving cert, **** the bitch/bastard that wrote the paper, **** you! you're playing with people's future lives!

Cathald04

Michael_E wrote: »

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

I swear to God. That was the most difficult maths paper I've ever done, and I've done most mocks, etc.! I swear to God I was going for an A, I won't even get a B!

The only thing is that 15-17% have to get A2/A1 grades...no matter how hard it is.

Ugh my teacher was right "Chances are they'll **** you over and come out next year saying "OH LOOK HOW GOOD PEOPLE TAKE TO PROJECT MATHS!!!"". Load of rubbish.

I thought that exactly, but sure what is done is done. We just need an easy paper 2 and we are set..

Ronan Keating

Ouch.

Maybe_Memories

Would anyone like the solutions?

kpac

Valin wrote: »

Draw the graph of the circle with centre (0,0) then do π∫y to get the area unfortunately that leaves you with the 'louser' special integral. SQR ROOT(r^2 - x^2) This is that hard one where you have to sub in rsinn for x and go from there. The workings take 9 lines and in the end you just end up with the intergral equalling 1. It's the worst of the worst according to my teacher and luckily we'd done it before.

Well, I started in that way but crossed it out. Have never done integrals in a bracket to a power.

River Song

Cathald04 wrote: »

I thought that exactly, but sure what is done is done. We just need an easy paper 2 and we are set..

I know >.< Gah.

Thinking about it...how lucky was it that we were looking at the area of a circle on Boards last night???

kpac

Valin wrote: »

Draw the graph of the circle with centre (0,0) then do π∫y to get the area unfortunately that leaves you with the 'louser' special integral. SQR ROOT(r^2 - x^2) This is that hard one where you have to sub in rsinn for x and go from there. The workings take 9 lines and in the end you just end up with the intergral equalling 1. It's the worst of the worst according to my teacher and luckily we'd done it before.

Well, I started in that way but crossed it out. I've never done integrals in a bracket to a power.

martins2309

To prove the polynomial to degree 2, I had skimmed the proof over slightly at best, it literally had never come up before. Q7 was a disaster, I dont even know what I'm going to do now most questions I could answer part As. Q8 was the only one that I could answer all of it!!!

nommm

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

Would anyone like the solutions?

Yes please.

irish_man

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

Would anyone like the solutions?

yeah i wouldn't mind to see them!

LilMissCiara

Maybe_Memories wrote: »

Would anyone like the solutions?

YES

:O

drg85

I was supervising the exam, and I give maths grinds (though usually 3rd level, so I may have forgotten much of the course!) - I thought it was unusually difficult and unfair to students sitting it. I have a question though - perhaps I'm missing something as I was only glancing but was there an error in Q7C(III) ? The one with the graphs ? They all seemed to be in the positive x/y plane when the functions g(x) and f(x) were technically only specified between 0 and -1. I also played with the functions a little and I didnt graph anything like what was offered. Anyone else see this or am I missing something ?

aranciata

It's not unusual that it was as far from and as different from Project Maths as it could have been! They went out with a bang... and f*cked us all over in the process.

After making a mess of English paper 1, a disaster of Geography (regional questions were ridiculous) and failing maths (I don't just think I failed it, I *know* I failed it)

Maybe_Memories

All right, I'll have to do the paper out, but I'll have them up in like 2 hours