Ulster Bank League 2011-2012 talk/gossip/rumours

ormond lad

May as well start a thread for next season
Nenagh have a new coach in ex pro Trevor Hogan with Jonny Moylan leaving. John Lillis is not playing with nenagh next season and may not be playing with thurles either depending on how tipp do in camoige as he is a selector with them. Nenaghs captain for the last few years, mick kennedy has been asked to play with garryowen.
Sundays Well have signed thurles pair Barry and Aidan Dwyer, aidan having played dual status last season.
Cashel have signed shane luby from kilfeacle, though he may be with kilfeacle dual status

thomond2006

Did anyone just think "What the **** is the Ulster Bank League?" when they read the title?

I had no idea Ulster Bank were sponsoring the AIL.

Aidric

thomond2006 wrote: »

Did anyone just think "What the **** is the Ulster Bank League?" when they read the title?

No.

ormond lad

thomond2006 wrote: »

Did anyone just think "What the **** is the Ulster Bank League?" when they read the title? no only you thomond;)

I had no idea Ulster Bank were sponsoring the AIL.

Announced it back in january, hopefully they can promote it well to try get crowds back to games.

jolley123

thomond2006 wrote: »

Did anyone just think "What the **** is the Ulster Bank League?" when they read the title?

I had no idea Ulster Bank were sponsoring the AIL.

Don't worry Thomond, you're not alone. I forgot it was now the Ulster league.

thomond2006

ormond lad wrote: »

Announced it back in january, hopefully they can promote it well to try get crowds back to games.

Good to see they got a sponsor in quick after AIB left.

PhatPiggins

Great idea for a thread. I'd imagine I'm not alone in stating that as a rugby nut I don't know nearly enough about the UBL !

CatFromHue

no your not. the league had its hay day but thats gone now. it will never get back to what it once was in the late 90's early 00's.

the provinces have a huge following but not all would be people who would play or have played the game. id almost go to say that the people who do have an interest in the league are players/ex players at some level. not players who play for ubl teams just players in general.

i would have played and would still like to play (long term knee injury stopping me). i have a passing interest in the league in that i would read reports on a sunday morning and check the league table. im not affiliated with any club but between work and college id have played for a few clubs all over the country. id always check to see how those teams would be getting on. if a game was on tv i would watch it too. a work colleague who is a big leinster fan but never has played for a club has interest in the ubl.

i do view the league as being important for irish rugby as it's a part of the games soul.

Digifriendly

CatFromHue wrote: »

no your not. the league had its hay day but thats gone now. it will never get back to what it once was in the late 90's early 00's.

the provinces have a huge following but not all would be people who would play or have played the game. id almost go to say that the people who do have an interest in the league are players/ex players at some level. not players who play for ubl teams just players in general.

i would have played and would still like to play (long term knee injury stopping me). i have a passing interest in the league in that i would read reports on a sunday morning and check the league table. im not affiliated with any club but between work and college id have played for a few clubs all over the country. id always check to see how those teams would be getting on. if a game was on tv i would watch it too. a work colleague who is a big leinster fan but never has played for a club has interest in the ubl.

i do view the league as being important for irish rugby as it's a part of the games soul.

Agree with you. The club game is struggling to survive sadly. I support Dungannon who play in 1B and their gates have dwindled to 200-300 last couple of seasons, in some instances even less and sadly some games attract just a few more than Ulster League matches. When Dungannon are away I tend to watch other Ulster teams in the AIL and the story is pretty similar although Ballynahinch seem to attract a decent sized crowd. I remember when Dungannon played Ballymena in the year they won the AIL and there were 2,000-3,000 at the game!

PhatPiggins

I won't pretend to be an expert but I do find the IRFU/Regional Branches (whoever) decisions to continually devalue the club game baffling. The introduction of the B&I Cup, limiting the number of contracted players on the pitch, etc seems to have the end result of limiting the game time of the best players to a minimum.

Would any of you regular viewers of the league say the standard is dropping?

roycon

the average age has dropped significantly. i dont think the standard has dropped hugely but you wont find any starting provincial player playing week in week out in the ubl. pretty much all the ireand u20 team from yesterday are playing ulster bank league regularly and will be again next year. the irfu still recognize this and that it is vital for development and always will be. look at the npc in new zealand. its still going well even with the advent of super rugby. theyre trying slowly to expand the league with four divisions next year. brought in a few strong provincial town teams where there is the potential for a large young playing base navan,naas, etc. the first division is getting smaller trying to create 1 or 2 big teams from each province in a top league.

blackrock - south dublin
st marys - south dublin
clontarf - north dublin
cork con - cork city
dolphin - cork
shannon
ul bohs
young munster
dungannon - ulster
ballynahinch - ulster
galwegians

Amazotheamazing

roycon wrote: »

the average age has dropped significantly. i dont think the standard has dropped hugely but you wont find any starting provincial player playing week in week out in the ubl. pretty much all the ireand u20 team from yesterday are playing ulster bank league regularly and will be again next year. the irfu still recognize this and that it is vital for development and always will be. look at the npc in new zealand. its still going well even with the advent of super rugby. theyre trying slowly to expand the league with four divisions next year. brought in a few strong provincial town teams where there is the potential for a large young playing base navan,naas, etc. the first division is getting smaller trying to create 1 or 2 big teams from each province in a top league.

blackrock - south dublin
st marys - south dublin
clontarf - north dublin
cork con - cork city
dolphin - cork
shannon
ul bohs
young munster
dungannon - ulster
ballynahinch - ulster
galwegians

Amazed if Garryowen would be overlooked.

You could never pick one or two clubs from the big four Limerick clubs (Boh's, Shannon, Garryowen and Munsters), imo, you'd either have to have them all in or a combined Limerick team in (which would be unworkable).

roycon

forgot garryowen sorry! theyre not being picked. they just qualify through competing. theyre trying to do it slowly over a series of years. i think its going pretty well so far. the division 1b winner next year doesnt qualify for the finals like previous years but the 1st division has gotten slightly bigger. not as big as when the changes started though

Amazotheamazing

roycon wrote: »

forgot garryowen sorry! theyre not being picked. they just qualify through competing. theyre trying to do it slowly over a series of years. i think its going pretty well so far. the division 1b winner next year doesnt qualify for the finals like previous years but the 1st division has gotten slightly bigger. not as big as when the changes started though

It's interesting to see the clubs that are surviving. Imo, clubs like Nenagh and Bruff are the future, community based, virtually GAA in ethos. Munsters have also sorta adopted that model. They've made games into social events people want to attend for not just the rugby.

roycon

interesting also to see strategically city of derry being promoted into the third division last year and then getting promoted again this year into the 2nd. Derry is the fourth biggest city in ireland after dublin, belfast and cork and i have a feeling ulster rugby decided they needed a big rugby team in there playing in a top division so they pushed them through , maybe gave them a few players and better facilities and some money so that the popularity of rugby can grow there.

ormond lad

roycon wrote: »

interesting also to see strategically city of derry being promoted into the third division last year and then getting promoted again this year into the 2nd. Derry is the fourth biggest city in ireland after dublin, belfast and cork and i have a feeling ulster rugby decided they needed a big rugby team in there playing in a top division so they pushed them through , maybe gave them a few players and better facilities and some money so that the popularity of rugby can grow there.

Derry had been relegated to junior in 2008 and came back to senior following 2 years in ulster junior division 1 with a new coaching setup plus an influx of young local players.City Of Derry that year were quite poor and were relegated as they couldnt buy a win, though they did beat us at home that year.:mad:

Ulster does need a decent team in derry but the way to do that is to try improve underage teams in the club so there is more players capable of playing senior rugby coming up from the youth ranks. Ulster didnt give any players, money etc to help them get back to AIL,why would they as it would lead to other clubs asking them to help them as well

roycon

there was a rumour doing the rounds a few years ago that the derry tried to register 4 fijians who were working for the british army in derry but the irfu wouldnt let them. regardless its great to see derry there and it will definitely help the popularity of rugby and expand the interest and supporters base

ormond lad

Thought i may as well bump this thread. teams to start pre season training soon enough. Any transfer news/ new coaches etc??



Spring Joins Shannon Ranks


1 July 2011, 5:06 pm
By Editor

Ireland underage international Aaron Spring has joined Limerick club Shannon as new head coach Stephen Keogh stengthens his squad for the coming season. Aaron Spring linked up with his new club Shannon for pre-season training this week, having made the move from his native Sligo RFC.
The versatile Spring, who can play in the back-three or the back row, helped Sligo win a Connacht Junior League and Cup double and gain promotion to the Ulster Bank League for the 2011/12 season.
He was also part of the Connacht team that won the province's first ever IRFU Junior Interprovincial Championship in May.
The 20-year-old from Sligo town is hoping to push for a place in the Shannon senior team and feature in Ulster Bank League Division 1A.
Spring, who was also a target for reigning champions Old Belvedere, told the Sligo Champion: "The opportunity to join Shannon was just too good to turn down.
"It's the spiritual home of Irish club rugby and the possibility of earning a place in the Munster Academy is another massive incentive.
"It's a huge challenge but I need to be playing at that level if I want to advance my career, so I'm really looking forward to it.
"The last few years have been pretty hectic and this summer was the first one in years that I've been able to switch off and take a break. I'm feeling very refreshed now and I just can't wait to get started with Shannon."
Spring also paid tribute to his former school and club coaches, adding: "I'm very grateful to the coaches at Sligo Rugby Club and to Jimmy Staunton and Jimmy Galvin at the Grammar School for the all the help and advice they've given me over the last few years.
"Naturally, I will miss the rugby scene in Sligo but I'm moving on to a new challenge and I'm really looking forward to it."
To read more: http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/23353.php

Seems to be a very good player, very versatile if he can play back row and in the back 3, hopefully he is looked at for an academy spot

chunkylover4

Hugely talented, but also lazy

bamboozle

ormond lad wrote: »

May as well start a thread for next season
Nenagh have a new coach in ex pro Trevor Hogan with Jonny Moylan leaving. John Lillis is not playing with nenagh next season and may not be playing with thurles either depending on how tipp do in camoige as he is a selector with them. Nenaghs captain for the last few years, mick kennedy has been asked to play with garryowen.
Sundays Well have signed thurles pair Barry and Aidan Dwyer, aidan having played dual status last season.
Cashel have signed shane luby from kilfeacle, though he may be with kilfeacle dual status

Clontarf replaced Jackman with the man whose place Jackman took in the first place Andy Wood, Wood took tarf to an AIL semi final and final in 2 seasons and is a great addition. Tarf have lost Gissing, McGrath & Keating who have gone overseas, Mick Kearney and Paul O'Donoghue to Connacht. Word of Richie Lane from Cork Con signing.

IFRU's bizare decision to scrap the top 4 play offs will see many games be pointless as mid table teams have nothing to fight for come halfway through the season.

Keogh seems to be making lots of signings for Shannon, after last season they need them...

porterbelly

chunkylover4 wrote: »

Hugely talented, but also lazy

Has played no8, 2nd row, prop and wing all in the last few years. Doesn't know his best position and I'd imagine if Connacht were keen on him he'd still be in or around the academy

Amazotheamazing

porterbelly wrote: »

Has played no8, 2nd row, prop and wing all in the last few years. Doesn't know his best position and I'd imagine if Connacht were keen on him he'd still be in or around the academy

You must have seen a lot of him then? What type of player is he?

It's not too unusual to see young players move through the rows, hence the sub hooker coming on at 7 in JRWC etc. Hell, even POM played wing this season and he's much further down the line than Spring.

PhatPiggins

porterbelly wrote: »

Has played no8, 2nd row, prop and wing all in the last few years. Doesn't know his best position and I'd imagine if Connacht were keen on him he'd still be in or around the academy

no8, 2nd row, prop and wing , :eek: I'm trying to imagine what he must look like, I have a slim line and much faster version of Tony Buckley in my head

jolley123

PhatPiggins wrote: »

no8, 2nd row, prop and wing , :eek: I'm trying to imagine what he must look like, I have a slim line and much faster version of Tony Buckley in my head

PhatPiggins

bamboozle wrote: »

Clontarf replaced Jackman with the man whose place Jackman took in the first place Andy Wood, Wood took tarf to an AIL semi final and final in 2 seasons and is a great addition. Tarf have lost Gissing, McGrath & Keating who have gone overseas, Mick Kearney and Paul O'Donoghue to Connacht. Word of Richie Lane from Cork Con signing.

IFRU's bizare decision to scrap the top 4 play offs will see many games be pointless as mid table teams have nothing to fight for come halfway through the season.

Keogh seems to be making lots of signings for Shannon, after last season they need them...

I think that sums up the IRFU's approach to the club game in general

whysomoody

ormond lad wrote: »

Derry had been relegated to junior in 2008 and came back to senior following 2 years in ulster junior division 1 with a new coaching setup plus an influx of young local players.City Of Derry that year were quite poor and were relegated as they couldnt buy a win, though they did beat us at home that year.:mad:

Ulster does need a decent team in derry but the way to do that is to try improve underage teams in the club so there is more players capable of playing senior rugby coming up from the youth ranks. Ulster didnt give any players, money etc to help them get back to AIL,why would they as it would lead to other clubs asking them to help them as well

I agree with this, from a strategic perspective you need a decent foothold in each region, and City of Derry will give the North West a good lift if they were to develop, it would mean that players wouldn't have to move to get a decent standard of coaching/matches. Donegal is obviously one area where there is so much room for expansion, GAA is so prevalent that there is a natural populus of people to choose from, but they need to be inspired (and included).

PhatPiggins wrote: »

I think that sums up the IRFU's approach to the club game in general

yes, they seem to be a bit shortdighted in trying to centralise everything, it has worked to a certain degree so far, but grasssroots clubs are needed too.

profitius

porterbelly wrote: »

Has played no8, 2nd row, prop and wing all in the last few years. Doesn't know his best position and I'd imagine if Connacht were keen on him he'd still be in or around the academy

He must be some athlete!

ormond lad

Colm Tucker new coach with UL Bohs

12th Jul - 2011

By AIDAN CORR

LESS than three months after his departure from Shannon RFC, Colm Tucker has been appointed senior coach with UL Bohemian.

The former Shannon and St Munchin's College hooker took charge of his first training session with his new club last night.

Barry Murphy is the club's director of rugby and is expected to play with Bohs when he recovers from a recent operation on a long-term injury.

http://limerickrugby.ie/news-1664/Colm-Tucker-new-coach-with-UL-Bohs

ormond lad

All this seasons fixtures
ULSTER BANK LEAGUE 2011/2012
DIVISION 1A
Saturday 1st October
Blackrock College v Clontarf
Garryowen v St. Mary’s College
Lansdowne v Cork Constitution
Shannon v Dolphin
Young Munster v Old Belvedere

Saturday 8th October
Clontarf v Young Munster
Cork Constitution v Shannon
Dolphin v Blackrock College
Old Belvedere v Garryowen
St. Mary’s College v Lansdowne

Friday 14th October
Dolphin v Cork Constitution
Lansdowne v Old Belvedere
Saturday 15th October
Blackrock College v Young Munster
Garryowen v Clontarf
Shannon v St. Mary’s College

Friday 28th October
Clontarf v Lansdowne
Old Belvedere v Blackrock College
Saturday 29th October
Cork Constitution v Garryowen
St. Mary’s College v Dolphin
Young Munster v Shannon

Friday 4th November
Garryowen v Young Munster
Saturday 5th November
Blackrock College v St. Mary’s College
Cork Constitution v Clontarf
Lansdowne v Dolphin
Shannon v Old Belvedere

Friday 25th November
St. Mary’s College v Old Belvedere
Saturday 26th November
Blackrock College v Cork Constitution
Clontarf v Shannon
Dolphin v Garryowen
Young Munster v Lansdowne

Saturday 3rd December
Cork Constitution v Young Munster
Garryowen v Blackrock College
Old Belvedere v Dolphin
Shannon v Lansdowne
St. Mary’s College v Clontarf

Saturday 7th January
Blackrock College v Shannon
Dolphin v Clontarf
Lansdowne v Garryowen
Old Belvedere v Cork Constitution
Young Munster v St. Mary’s College

Friday 13th January
Garryowen v Shannon
Saturday 14th January
Clontarf v Old Belvedere
Dolphin v Young Munster
Lansdowne v Blackrock College
St. Mary’s College v Cork Constitution

Saturday 28th January
Cork Constitution v Lansdowne
Garryowen v Dolphin
Old Belvedere v St. Mary’s College
Shannon v Clontarf
Young Munster v Blackrock College

Saturday 4th February
Blackrock College v Old Belvedere
Clontarf v Dolphin
Lansdowne v Shannon
St. Mary’s College v Garryowen
Young Munster v Cork Constitution

Saturday 10th February
Shannon v Young Munster
Saturday 11th February
Cork Constitution v Blackrock College
Dolphin v St. Mary’s College
Garryowen v Lansdowne
Old Belvedere v Clontarf

Saturday 18th February
Blackrock College v Lansdowne
Clontarf v Cork Constitution
Dolphin v Old Belvedere
St. Mary’s College v Shannon
Young Munster v Garryowen

Friday 2nd March
Cork Constitution v Dolphin
Shannon v Garryowen
Saturday 3rd March
Clontarf v Blackrock College
Lansdowne v St. Mary’s College
Old Belvedere v Young Munster

Saturday 24th March
Dolphin v Lansdowne
Garryowen v Old Belvedere
Shannon v Cork Constitution
St. Mary’s College v Blackrock College
Young Munster v Clontarf

Saturday 31st March
Blackrock College v Dolphin
Clontarf v Garryowen
Cork Constitution v St. Mary’s College
Lansdowne v Young Munster
Old Belvedere v Shannon

Saturday 14th April
Clontarf v St. Mary’s College
Garryowen v Cork Constitution
Old Belvedere v Lansdowne
Shannon v Blackrock College
Young Munster v Dolphin

Saturday 21st April
Blackrock College v Garryowen
Cork Constitution v Old Belvedere
Dolphin v Shannon
Lansdowne v Clontarf
St. Mary’s College v Young Munster

other divisions available on http://www.knockon.ie/

whysomoody

Any opinions on the new structure? Tips for the league?

bamboozle

whysomoody wrote: »

Any opinions on the new structure? Tips for the league?

stupid structure as there are no play-offs so only the 2 or 3 teams fighting to win the league and 3 or 4 teams fighting relegation will have anything to play for. All other teams will have nothing to play for after Christmas.

As for tips, Con to romp the 1st division, despite their new signings Shannon to struggle...along with Garryowen...

roycon

haha surely you could say the same about every league in the world. what a ridiculous statement

Digifriendly

roycon wrote: »

haha surely you could say the same about every league in the world. what a ridiculous statement

Not every league in the world is without playoffs so maybe your statement is ridiculous.

bamboozle

roycon wrote: »

haha surely you could say the same about every league in the world. what a ridiculous statement

do most leagues in rugby not now use some form of a play off system?

ormond lad

Ulster Bank League doesnt start for a month or so but first round of Senior cup was played in munster this weekend with the charity cup first rounds and semis in cork and limerick the previous 2 weeks
Shannon beat Nenagh, Garryowen beat Cork Con, Bruff beat Clonakilty, Dolphin beat Old Crescent, Midleton beat Highfield, Thomond lost to U.L. Bohs and Young Munster beat UCC.
What about teams from the other provinces??
Have cups started??

vinny chase

ormond lad wrote: »

What about teams from the other provinces??
Have cups started??

Unfortunately I think reading through this thread kinda answers the questions about "what about other teams in other provinces".

Munster club rugby seems so much stronger than Leinster, where the school focus definitely seems to detract from the clubs, at least in Dublin anyway.

Shame really. My very earliest rugby memories are from Stradbrook, when my father was still playing and club rugby, back in the days when the games literally were social occasions.

Can remember even in the late nineties when guys who were in or on the fringes of the Irish side were playing club rugby regularly, like Ronan O'Gara for Cork Con and the Shannon side that had stacks of internationals.

Wasn't just up here either, going away to places like Dungannon, Garryowen and Buccaneers in Athlone was great craic too, and been at games in all three venues with huge crowds.

Sad all of that is gone today really!

ormond lad

vinny chase wrote: »

Unfortunately I think reading through this thread kinda answers the questions about "what about other teams in other provinces".

Munster club rugby seems so much stronger than Leinster, where the school focus definitely seems to detract from the clubs, at least in Dublin anyway.

Shame really. My very earliest rugby memories are from Stradbrook, when my father was still playing and club rugby, back in the days when the games literally were social occasions.

Can remember even in the late nineties when guys who were in or on the fringes of the Irish side were playing club rugby regularly, like Ronan O'Gara for Cork Con and the Shannon side that had stacks of internationals.

Wasn't just up here either, going away to places like Dungannon, Garryowen and Buccaneers in Athlone was great craic too, and been at games in all three venues with huge crowds.

Sad all of that is gone today really!

why should schools rugby detract from rugby at adult senior level??
I know the huge focus is on schools but its not detracting from AIL rugby

pity the league doesnt get any press coverage but it is so important that we keep it going. There is future pros playing in the league either academy stars getting games or lads who were missed by the academy at 8 and are waiting for their shot
My earliest rugby memories are also AIL games, esp the shannon games that were played in south tipp when thomond was being worked on in 1998

vinny chase

ormond lad wrote: »

why should schools rugby detract from rugby at adult senior level??
I know the huge focus is on schools but its not detracting from AIL rugby

pity the league doesnt get any press coverage but it is so important that we keep it going. There is future pros playing in the league either academy stars getting games or lads who were missed by the academy at 8 and are waiting for their shot
My earliest rugby memories are also AIL games, esp the shannon games that were played in south tipp when thomond was being worked on in 1998

In Dublin, so many of the senior clubs have direct links to the schools.

The academy has now become the only avenue to pro rugby. Occasionally some diamonds come from the youths side of things like Jamie Hagan & Sean O'Brien, but at least 90% of Leinster's players come from the schools system. Even look outside of Leinster at the amount of products of the Leinster schools system who are thriving; you've got guys like Felix Jones & Ian Keatley in Munster, and David Moore & Paul O'Donoghue in Connacht, not to mention a couple of lads in England too.

When I started following rugby, the provinces played every now and again, but your bread and butter rugby was the club; that was where there was rugby every weekend. Now with the leagues for the provinces, the clubs can't compete with that.

legendary.xix

bamboozle wrote: »

stupid structure as there are no play-offs so only the 2 or 3 teams fighting to win the league and 3 or 4 teams fighting relegation will have anything to play for. All other teams will have nothing to play for after Christmas.

As for tips, Con to romp the 1st division, despite their new signings Shannon to struggle...along with Garryowen...

It's not the best of structures as I mentioned in a different thread. You'd have to wonder about these people that are supposed to go away do a review of the league's old structure and speak with the grassroots of the game. If this is the best they can come up with, it doesn't say much.

In terms of exposure for the league. Having divisions 1A and 1B doesn't work. One is simply the first tier and it's name should reflect that, same then goes for 1B. Divisions 2A and 2B, essentially divisions 3 and 4, should have a regional split of 8 north and 8 south playing home and away.

In terms of play-offs, they definitely should be part of the top tier. I'm not sure on play-offs in the lower tiers with promotion etc. There might be a place for the top team taking the title and promotion. A four-way promotion/relegation play-off then involving second last from the division above with 2nd, 3rd and 4th from the division pushing for promotion. If the structures are right, it'll go along way in helping the league get a better standing.

ormond lad

The league starts this weekend. highlight of the weekend has to be Wanderers game with Nenagh in the Aviva
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24146.php
The game will be streamed live on irishrugby.ie
For the rest of the fixtures see here

bamboozle

ormond lad wrote: »

The league starts this weekend. highlight of the weekend has to be Wanderers game with Nenagh in the Aviva
http://www.irishrugby.ie/news/24146.php
The game will be streamed live on irishrugby.ie
For the rest of the fixtures see here

Trev Hogan making his AIL coaching debut should be interesting.

I'll be watching Clontarf's visit to Blackrock in stradbrook on saturday...

ormond lad

bamboozle wrote: »

Trev Hogan making his AIL coaching debut should be interesting.

I'll be watching Clontarf's visit to Blackrock in stradbrook on saturday...

http://www.irishrugby.ie/ulsterbankleague/24266.php
Ulster Bank League: Results Round-Up


1 October 2011, 4:51 pm
By Editor



The rain failed to damp spirits as a busy opening day in the Ulster Bank League produced some top quality rugby and a series of interesting results across the divisions. Read on for a full round-up.

ULSTER BANK LEAGUE RESULTS:
Saturday, October 1

DIVISION 1A:
Blackrock College 6 Clontarf 30,
Garryowen 9 St. Marys College 13,
Lansdowne 9 Cork Constitution 21,
Shannon 21 Dolphin 18,
Young Munster 23 Old Belvedere 19,
DIVISION 1B:
Belfast Harlequins 14 UL Bohemians 12,
Buccaneers 17 Bruff 11,
Dungannon 35 UCD 13
Galwegians 17 Ballynahinch33
UCC 6 Ballymena 8

DIVISION 2A:
City of Derry 27 Terenure College 23
De La Salle Palmerston 26 Thomond 6
Dublin University 21 Greystones 8
Malone 24 Clonakilty 14
Midleton 13 Corinthians 15
Old Wesley 14 Old Crescent 14
Queen's University 28 Instonians 21
Seapoint 21 Bective Rangers 17

DIVISION 2B:
Banbridge 16 Navan 12
Connemara 23 Naas 20
NUIM Barnhall 13 Highfield 17
Rainey Old Boys 39 Ards 3
Sligo 20 Boyne 21
Sunday's Well 9 Armagh 6
Suttonians 12 Cashel 23
Wanderers 6 Nenagh Ormond 21- was moved from the aviva as groundsmen there didnt want pitch to be used following all the rain

ormond lad

Ulster Bank League: Results Round-Up


8 October 2011, 4:12 pm
By Editor

Clontarf and Shannon are the only two unbeaten teams left in Division 1A of the Ulster Bank League following today's matches. Ballynahinch and Buccaneers are the leading the way in Division 1B, while De La Salle Palmerston and newcomers Boyne top their respective divisions.


ULSTER BANK LEAGUE RESULTS: Saturday, October 8 DIVISION 1A:
CLONTARF 16 YOUNG MUNSTER 15, Castle Avenue
CORK CONSTITUTION 10 SHANNON 14, Temple Hill
DOLPHIN 17 BLACKROCK COLLEGE 10, Musgrave Park
OLD BELVEDERE 25 GARRYOWEN 30, Anglesea Road
ST. MARY'S COLLEGE 19 LANSDOWNE 23, Templeville Road

DIVISION 1B:
BALLYMENA 10 BUCCANEERS 16, Eaton Park
BALLYNAHINCH 27 BELFAST HARLEQUINS 16, Ballymacarn Park
BRUFF 21 GALWEGIANS 12, Kilballyowen Park
UL BOHEMIANS 12 DUNGANNON 5, Annacotty
UCD 23 UCC 16, Belfield

DIVISION 2A:

Clonakilty 7 Queen's University 30, Shannonvale Cross
Corinthians 32 City of Derry 7, Corinthian Park
Greystones 20 Malone 19, Dr Hickey Park
Instonians 17 De La Salle Palmerston 43, Shaw's Bridge
Old Crescent 12 Midleton 6, Rosbrien
Terenure College 25 Seapoint 8, Lakelands Park
Thomond 9 Old Wesley 9, Liam Fitzgerald Park

DIVISION 2B:

Ards 15 Suttonians 15, Hamilton Park
Armagh 52 Wanderers 17, Palace Grounds
Boyne 27 Connemara 22, Drogheda
Cashel 16 Banbridge 12, Spafield
Highfield 11 Sunday's Well 6, Woodleigh Park
Navan 27 Sligo 12, Balreask Old
Nenagh Ormond 13 Rainey Old Boys 13, New Ormond Park

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Digifriendly

Was at Dungannon vs Ballynahinch last night.In terms of crowds Friday night rugby is a real hit with about 3x the usual number there. Good game too with Ballynahinch edging out Dungannon by 25-21 - they are setting the early pace in 1B and Paddy McCallister scored an excellent try on his return from injury. Brian McLaughlin (Ulster coach) who was watching will have been impressed.

ormond lad

Went up to Sligo for Nenagh game, awful journey up there but great win, it will be a very tough place for teams to win this season

ULSTER BANK LEAGUE RESULTS: Saturday, October 15
DIVISION 1A:
Blackrock College 13 Young Munster 37
Garryowen 6 Clontarf 9
Shannon 18 St Marys College 11
Dolphin 10 Cork Constitution17
Lansdowne 22 Old Belvedere 18

DIVISION 1B:
Bruff 28 Ballymena 34
Buccaneers 23 UCD 17
Galwegians 15 Belfast Harlequins 39
UCC 9 UL Bohemians 19
Dungannon 21 Ballynahinch 25

DIVISION 2A:
City of Derry 19 Old Crescent 26
De La Salle Palmerston 38 Clonakilty 21
Dublin University 18 Terenure College 3
Malone 23 Bective Rangers 9
Old Wesley 45 Midleton 10
Queen's University 30 Greystones 11
Seapoint 10 Corinthians 29
Thomond 19 Instonians 12

DIVISION 2B:
Banbridge 20 Armagh 16
Cashel 20 Highfield 0
Connemara 55 Ards 24
Navan 7 Naas 13
NUIM Barnhall 18 Rainey Old Boys 20
Sligo 5 Nenagh Ormond 9
Sunday's Well 10 Wanderers 8
Suttonians 16 Boyne 13,

ormond lad

Potential story/non-story

http://limerickrugby.ie/news-1869/Di...-Friday-night-

IT takes the eagle-eyed Limerick rugby public to spot any alleged breach of the AIL rules and we have had enquiries regarding the Cork Constitution line-up for last Friday night's league game against Dolphin.

If the team line-up which we received is correct, then maybe, just maybe, they have a point. According to that list 'Con' fielded Ian Nagle in the pack and both Simon Zebo and Scott Deasy in the backline. According to the AIL rules you can only play two players with provincial contracts in any game in the AIL this season. The question is, are Nagle, Zebo and Deasy all full-contract players? According to the Munster 2011/12 squad, printed in the programme for their last game against the Ospreys in Thomond Park, all three are listed without any reference to being without full contracts.

No doubt, there is some explanation. Maybe the team sheet was incorrect.

thomond2006

I'm fairly sure they are all on full contracts.

CIARAN_BOYLE

All three are on full contracts as per munsterrugby.ie

Ian Nagle Profile wrote:

After his second year in the Munster Academy Ian secured a Munster Rugby development contract and then moved onto a full contract for season 2011/12.

Deasy profile wrote:

Scott has made the move up through the ranks from academy to development to a full contract.

zebo profile wrote:

As a sub academy player Zebo made his first competitive start for Munster in the Magners League game against Connacht at the Sportsground in April 2010.
After one year in the academy he secured a full contract at the start of the 2011/12 season.

Can anyone confirm if the team sheet was right? I personally thought that it was unlikely that Nagle would actually be played at 6 and suspected a misake when I read it first.

thomond2006

On a side note, the rule is a tad ridiculous. All 3 of those players need gametime at club level to keep match sharp.

CIARAN_BOYLE

thomond2006 wrote: »

On a side note, the rule is a tad ridiculous. All 3 of those players need gametime at club level to keep match sharp.

They should have been given developmental contracts to ensure they could play enough club regularly. All three are players that need experience in games to further their development and should be playing regularly.

ormond lad

Buccaneers Deducted Ulster Bank League Points

25 November 2011, 9:01 am
By Editor


Hendre Marnitz's Buccaneers side have been in impressive form in Ulster Bank League Division 1B, winning their first five games of the campaign.


The Irish Rugby Football Union All-Ireland League Sub-Committee held a hearing to consider a possible breach of regulation by Ulster Bank League Division 1B club Buccaneers RFC in relation to the fielding of an ineligible player during a league match on Saturday, October 1.
Buccaneers RFC were asked to answer charges that it was in contravention of Ulster Bank League regulation 9.14 (Player registration and eligibility). The hearing took place in the IRFU offices in Dublin and was chaired by Ian McIlrath.

Having considered all of the available evidence, the All-Ireland League Sub-Committee found that Buccaneers RFC were guilty under regulation 9.14.2 of fielding an ineligible player.The Sub-Committee took into account the admission of the breach of regulation by Buccaneers RFC before it imposed a sanction of the immediate deduction of two Ulster Bank League Division 1B points.
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