Could someone make this Deer Skinner, And how Much would it cost?

Tackleberrywho

Got the idea a few months back from Paulo, would like something like this.
I do not have the equipment at home or the facilities to construct.
It is relatively straight forward, although I am not sure how it affixes to the tow-bar (the above is from states and their tow-bars are not the same as ours)

I have a winch and can source the box Iron.
I just need a fabricatior who understands the requirements of a Hunter.
Deer max weight 25stone for a red; although mainly fallow it will be used for.
needs to be disassembled easily for storage, yet sturdy when in position.

homerhop

I could, fabricator by trade.

Tackleberrywho

homerhop wrote: »

I could, fabricator by trade.

How many Shillin's ballpark, I'm sure others would be interested in knowing also the price, I might get Paulo6.5 to buy one too

homerhop

am sure a few burgers could be exchanged in the future

Tackleberrywho

homerhop wrote: »

am sure a few burgers could be exchanged in the future

What about a leg of a deer next week
And how would you affix to tow-bar that it could be taken off?
I can't find a pic online to give me an idea

Grizzly 45

It's not too hard.
You are looking at 4in box iron..How it attaches into our tow hitches is going to be intresting,and abit unworkable as well,as the US hitches are appx 4.5 ins dia with a 4inX12 in box tube insert that holds the tow pin or whatever.[Have one on my jeep].Its secured by a cross bolt with a saftey clip pin thingy. So unless you have a US style hitch.
Can send you some pics so you get the idea??
I cant see it working well on our system.
However abit of redesigning should be able to do somthing.Like building a "foot" to hold this steady when you work on it.Does it have to be 100% mobile and fixable to a tow hitch?
Est your man in the pic as say,6ft plus... You are looking at appx 2 10 ft lengths of 4in and 4.5 ins box iron.a couple of saftey pins and,drilling a few holes , two pulley wheels and the winch.About 3to 4 hours shop time.Should cost No more than 100 quid to put together. Show any fabricator that pic and they will have a good idea what you want.Customise the measurements to what you feel is right.Apart from that it is a straight cutting and welding,and hole drilling job.

PS just noticed over 4000 posts now,with no major infractions or bans!:D

kirving

http://www.hardtopsuk.com/shop/images/Towbar-1-600.jpg

Easy to make really, once you have a detachable towbar mount (like the one in the link above where you can slide in a bar) and you've been given dimensions. It shouldn't take more than a couple of hours.

If you had to start modifying an different type of towbar it could be complicated to do right. Still, shoudn't even take a day.

Nice little project!

Tackleberrywho

Kevin Irving wrote: »

http://www.hardtopsuk.com/shop/images/Towbar-1-600.jpg

Easy to make really, once you have a detachable towbar mount (like the one in the link above where you can slide in a bar) and you've been given dimensions. It shouldn't take more than a couple of hours.

If you had to start modifying an different type of towbar it could be complicated to do right. Still, shoudn't even take a day.

Nice little project!

hmmmmmmmm
I have a standard towbar

with ball Hitch attached.

Trying to keep this as simple as possible. i still want to be able to tow trailers etc

homerhop

Have a few ideas in my head looking at it in the pics. wont be a major job to tie in with the hitch

FISMA

What about one for a quad?

What exactly is the problem with the American attachments? Are you saying that we have bigger bal..

I think I better stop there!;)

Why not just get one for the field like above?

Traumadoc

Why do you want to skin the animal "in the field".
Surely better after garolching to leave the skin on until you get home?

Tackleberrywho

Traumadoc wrote: »

Why do you want to skin the animal "in the field".
Surely better after garolching to leave the skin on until you get home?

So all blood and gore is outside and when I go home bambi is in a bin liner and straight into the fridge.
The warmer the animal the easier to shin and gut.

I'm "between" sheds at the mo, so this would be a viable alternative.
I can get large clear bin liners from work that a carcass would fit in.

It would also mean I would be more mobile as some of my deer stalking is only down the road, whereas others is in different counties.

Anyone who skins a lot of animals knows it is sooo easy when there are still 30 odd degrees.
I'd also be able to use any hayshed in a push by just reversing in.
I have all teh knives, a butchers hacksaw and steel.
I need to practice my knife sharpening though

Homerhop looks to have won the contract, just need to figure out the simplest towbar attachment now.;)

ejg

Got no trees?

I also often skin in the field, less mess at home.
edi

Tackleberrywho

ejg wrote: »

Got no trees?

I also often skin in the field, less mess at home.
edi

Nothing suitable Edi, + want to be able to Stalk solo if required

I've seen a few guys from US use them to great effect
anyway falling asleep here so may log off

Spunk84

It would be less hassle to just field dress it there and then Tack. It takes some time to get it down but i always did by myself. less weight to carry back to the car and you dont have to deal with blood all over the boot and in the garage. Check out this site out very good http://www.eckrich.org/

I was looking at the pic i had samething on my truck in the states and it would swivel around 360, it was a great yoke. If your building one make sure it can be turned at least 180 for ease of the deer into the back. The cheapest and easiest way if you have a truck or jeep is to put a cable wench/hoist in the back attached to the floor:D then a plank of wood from the ground to the boot, attach deer to cable and wench it up the plank into the boot.

Grizzly 45

FISMA wrote: »

What about one for a quad?

What exactly is the problem with the American attachments? Are you saying that we have bigger bal..

I think I better stop there!;)

Why not just get one for the field like above?

Gotta say..Us Americans love our gadjets!!!:pac:Understandable if you are dealing with Moose or somthing.But a white tail??:eek:

Spunk84

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Gotta say..Us Americans love our gadjets!!!:pac:Understandable if you are dealing with Moose or somthing.But a white tail??:eek:

Have to agree with you, the products are made for hunters by hunters themselves. Everything you can imagine is done so it takes no effort in the field. Thus making it enjoyable. Nothing worse than dragging a deer up and down mountains for 4+ miles to camp and then having to strip it incase the flies get it:mad: Just take the ATV out, throw the deer on it and drive LOL used to love that part

ormondprop

You could check out a few dogboxes to find ideas for the hitch

garv123

im sure the fabricator you choose would be able to do something like this using the correct piece to fit your hitch.
he could even keep the bbq on it and have the skinner at the side so it can go straight on to be cooked :rolleyes:

ive seen dog boxes that follow the same idea as the bbq too

iwsf

You can fit bike racks on towbars in a sec so it should be easily done

J.R.

Looks like a handy, clever set-up.

To manage the towbar attachment could a box section (slighty bigger than your box iron) , with a hole drilled in it for a pin, be welded onto the towbar frame (to the left or right of tow ball)which would allow the box section of your 'skinner' to slide in and be secured when in use with a pin & clip.

iwsf

told you it was easy...

Tackleberrywho

iwsf wrote: »

told you it was easy...

The Landowner offered me the lend of his loadingshovel that he uses to feed cattle, I declined

if I wanted a Hyab I'd buy one.

I think some bars welded,Bolted to the towing bracket could work.

We have a bike rack at home that affixes very simply, it's just teh load bearing capacity I would be concerned about.

Any of yee guys good at Pro-Engineer/Solidworks/Autocad want to throw up a design??

lb1981

MOUNTING PLATE = remove the the tow bar from the mounting bar on your car (2 bolts), measure the centers of the two holes.Cut a peice of 8mm plate about 100mm longer than what your hole centers are(say your holes work out 100mm between centers add on 150mm each side)make it 100mm in witdh ,so it should be 400mm x 100mm.Mark up your holes and drill to suit your tow bar bolts.cut 2 pieces of 30mm x 30mm box section 200mm long,now weld them on to the ends of your drilled plate leaving 50mm of the box pertruding over the top and bottom of your plate.Now mount the plate using the two bolts sandwiching it between the tow bar and the mounting bar on the car.

HOIST= Cut your box section to your desired lenght for your up wright ,crossmember and support gusset.weld them together.cut out two small sqaure bits of plate and drill a hole in the center of them and weld them on to your cros member one at each end.Go down to your your local hardware and buy two washing line rollers and a wind up washing line fit these to your square plate and fit the wind up line to your up right.At the base of your up right weld on a piece of box 300mm long.now cut 2 pieces of 25mm x 25mm box 300mm long ,now weld them on to your base with the same distance between centers as your 30mm x 30mm box on your mounting plate.the hoist should now just slot straight down into your mounting plate.you can make the hoist in two parts to make it easy for transport.

Tack it would be a fairly cheap project to carry out

cruisedub1

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Got the idea a few months back from Paulo, would like something like this.
I do not have the equipment at home or the facilities to construct.
It is relatively straight forward, although I am not sure how it affixes to the tow-bar (the above is from states and their tow-bars are not the same as ours)

I have a winch and can source the box Iron.
I just need a fabricatior who understands the requirements of a Hunter.
Deer max weight 25stone for a red; although mainly fallow it will be used for.
needs to be disassembled easily for storage, yet sturdy when in position.

This is what the tow bar on my Toyota Tacoma looks like , inside dimensions are 2" x 2" , ball hitch has a corresponding sized part that slides in and is held by a pin .IMG_0851.JPG

Tackleberrywho

We have a yoke at home that converts the tractor towing pin to a ball-hitch tow.
My cousin has a dog box that is held in place by the ball hitch bracket; my only convern is weight causing it to bend or swivel.
A deer is much heavier than a doggy

mauser77

you could still use a normall ball hitch and just make an adjustable leg that you would drop down to stedy it up like a jockey wheel

Remmie 223

mauser77 wrote: »

you could still use a normall ball hitch and just make an adjustable leg that you would drop down to stedy it up like a jockey wheel

I agree
I would transfer the weight of the deer from the hitch to the ground
If it were me making it I would also not make it perpendicular to your truck chassis more like 10 degrees off vertical away from it, having it sit on two legs on the ground & pulling off the hitch. You would not need the 90 degree bend on the top as shown in your pic Tack this would cut down on weight

Grizzly 45

lb1981 wrote: »

MOUNTING PLATE = remove the the tow bar from the mounting bar on your car (2 bolts

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Easier said than done betimes!Some of those bolts will defy sledge hammers and extended breaker bar sockets!! They go solid,so solid that I once ripped an entire tow hitch off a landrover,before the nuts and bolts moved..[Well it was pretty rusty the whole set up!]:eek::D.

lb1981

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

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Easier said than done betimes!Some of those bolts will defy sledge hammers and extended breaker bar sockets!! They go solid,so solid that I once ripped an entire tow hitch off a landrover,before the nuts and bolts moved..[Well it was pretty rusty the whole set up!]:eek::D.

A bit of heat from an oxy/propane torch than a bit of shock treatment would have helped you out there.if that didnt work you could have used the torch to burn the head off the ****ers

The Big Fella

You could buy a car trailer hitch for the hoist and then weld two support legs either side of the 90 degree joint at the bottom.

DR6.5

Heres a link to a company in england that makes them.

http://www.doningtondeermanagement.co.uk/carcase-handling-systems/


dr6.5

Grizzly 45

THe first pic sorts out the ball hitch/leg issue!:D Prices are mad!!

@ib1981 Oh for such luxury in my humble workshop!:D

Remmie 223

DR6.5 wrote: »

Heres a link to a company in england that makes them.

http://www.doningtondeermanagement.co.uk/carcase-handling-systems/


dr6.5

First pic is similar to what I had in mind with two legs on the ground

Grizzly 45

Anyone notice the Irony of that pic??

Guys got a jeep ,a fine branch above him at a reasonable height,all he needs is a fivers worth of rope and a meat hook,and has saved 395 quid!:rolleyes::D

Deise Musashi

I need to practice my knife sharpening though

Drop me a PM or advice and ****e talk! Or drop your knives in the post for a couple days? I'll learn ya or do it for ya either way.

crackcrack30

If ya make the upright from tublar iorn instead of box it should help sort out the issue of being able to swivil it into the back.... the same pin would/could lock it in place and allow u to twist when removed and stow in forward facing position when mobile ....& i'd get it dipped too..

cc30

p.s. looks like something u could use to take an ATM out of a wall .. Ahem.....

daithi55

any look after tack
id be well able to make it if ya like
dont want nothing for it looks like an interesting project
cost about 50 quid for materials
40mm box and a clothes winch with rope is all ya need
have a few spare pulleys ya can have
let me no if ya want to go ahead with it

Tackleberrywho

daithi55 wrote: »

any look after tack
id be well able to make it if ya like
dont want nothing for it looks like an interesting project
cost about 50 quid for materials
40mm box and a clothes winch with rope is all ya need
have a few spare pulleys ya can have
let me no if ya want to go ahead with it

I had one offer already from Homerhop, I have a winch that I bought and never used.
yee both are similar distances away from me.
What way were you thinking of attaching it to the hitch?

daithi55

would have to have a look at the hitch first but id say it wudn be to hard make up something
id run the bar straight to the ground and use the hitch as a stabiliser
wont be as much pressure on the joints
and have it adjustable so ya can let it up and down according to ground height

Hartman

daithi55 wrote: »

would have to have a look at the hitch first but id say it wudn be to hard make up something
id run the bar straight to the ground and use the hitch as a stabiliser
wont be as much pressure on the joints

Exactly, the flaw with it just attached to the hitch will mean the whole rig will bounce on the jeeps suspension as your skinning and thats not desirable

daithi55 wrote: »

and have it adjustable so ya can let it up and down according to ground height

A jockey wheel attached would prob be ideal for that

daithi55

was thinking of just making a sleeve (ie biger box) to fit over the long bar and have a bar running off this to attach to drawbar
and can be tightened by a a bolt that threads through a nut thats welded on to sleeve
will save buying a jockey wheel

tfox

I saw a fella with a mount fitted to the Patriot roof rack on his defender. It swung out through 90deg and with a simple locking double pulley you could hoist your animal off the ground.

What kinda truck do you have tack ? Would a roof bar mounted ont not be simpler and take up less space....? I've tied fallow bucks off the back door on my landrover crewcabs custom back body and its only supported my gas struts out of the back door of a hiace.

Been planning to make a hoist that slides out of the body on a carriage with a cheap electric winch, allowing me to dress animals and also helps getting big reds in the back which is no mean feet by yourself when you have to lift them up over 3ft from the ground :eek:

poulo6.5

DR6.5 wrote: »

Heres a link to a company in england that makes them.

http://www.doningtondeermanagement.co.uk/carcase-handling-systems/


dr6.5

that looks perfect and simple, i am going to try and make one

Alchemist2

Perhaps an independent set up although not ideal would be the way to go tack.. not talking down some of the guys ideas but alot of thought has to be put into something like this and going near drawbars with gas or the like will compromise the composition of the material and cause weakness that may fail at a later date whilst drawing a load.. the weight of some deer can be huge (you dont need me to tell you that ) and the rear suspension and chassis is not equipped to take loads at the angle such an add-on would incur, mounting even a guide bracket from a roof rack albeit the model would put huge strain on the gutter mounts once a beast is mounted onto the winch.. just some tips to take into account.. hope this helps

Tackleberrywho

Vehicle is heavy duty with leaf sprung suspension so deer weight is not an issue.


Has anyone on here ever built one similar?

lb1981

Here is my atempt

tfox

Looks the job lb1981, nice and simple. How small does it pack away to ?

lb1981

tfox wrote: »

Looks the job lb1981, nice and simple. How small does it pack away to ?

il messure it in the morning but roughly 2 3 foot pieces

SpringerF

Dragropecombi.jpg
Now where did I leave that tree

Spunk84

lb1981 wrote: »

Here is my atempt

Excellent work LB now all you have to do is cammo it up, to look the part:D