Translating "Baby on Board"

emmetfahy

Hi, What would be an Irish translation of "Baby on Board". All I could come up with was "Leanbh sa Gluaisteán" whcih isn't very snappy!

bastados

I have 3 young ones in the back when traveling about...do I need a sticker saying I have tiny ones on board?..of course not I'm not that stupid.

An gal gréine

Some feel it an unnecessary sticker but if it puts parents' minds at ease, knowing that there are "stupid" not to mention wreckless drivers aplenty out there, then what harm?

An gal gréine

"Leanbh sa charr" is a bit shorter.

Plates

And will stupid, wreckless drivers change their behaviour because of a sticker? And will stupid drivers understand it as gaeilge?

I'd genuinely love to know why people put these stickers on their cars - what's the real message?

An gal gréine

It has the effect of any alert sign.

Plates

An gal gréine wrote: »

It has the effect of any alert sign.

Can you be a bit more specific? If you have the sticker on the car - what event/behaviour is less likely to happen?

Plazaman

bastados wrote: »

I have 3 young ones in the back when traveling about...do I need a sticker saying I have tiny ones on board?..of course not I'm not that stupid.

This is not what the OP asked nor did he infer he had kids.


"Leanbh Ar Bord" would mean "Child on Board" which should suffice or alternatively "Babai Ar Bord"

Thank you Google Translate

ClareVisitor

An gal gréine wrote: »

Some feel it an unnecessary sticker but if it puts parents' minds at ease, knowing that there are "stupid" not to mention wreckless drivers aplenty out there, then what harm?

I don't know if this is true, but I heard somewhere ages ago that these stickers were invented to warn other drivers (including the stupid reckless ones) that the driver of said car might be distracted and to take care around them. I would be of a mind to tell them that if they can't control their kids so they can drive properly then they should start walking.

An gal gréine

A boy-racer might give you a wide berth.

Insect Overlord

My brother put a "Baby on Board" sign in the back of his old VW as a decoration. It was just there as something for his friends to laugh at. Anyone who expects a yellow sticker in the window to magically save them from bad drivers is looking for a miracle.

messymess

Plates wrote: »

I'd genuinely love to know why people put these stickers on their cars - what's the real message?

The message is "Back off, I have precious cargo". Honestly, do you have to ask?

I'd cosider myself to be a fairly impatient driver but when I see that sign in the back of someones window it automatically makes me think and back off. They work. At least on simpletons like me.

Plates

If the message is "be careful - I may be distracted" then shouldn't we have stickers for:

"Recently Bereaved"
"Just divorced"
"Won the lotto last night"
"On my way to a job interview"

etc, etc.

Aard

The OP asked a simple translation question; why are people going on about the efficacy of such signs? This is the Gaeilge forum, and only 2 out of 7 posters have answered his question. Maybe this thread was redirected from another forum or something...


@OP: "Báibín ar bord" / "Leanbh ar bord" is unfortunately probably the best translation.

deirdremf

emmetfahy wrote: »

Hi, What would be an Irish translation of "Baby on Board". All I could come up with was "Leanbh sa Gluaisteán" whcih isn't very snappy!

Ní hionann é go baileach, ach céard faoi:
Gasúr sa gCarr

deirdremf

Plates wrote: »

If the message is "be careful - I may be distracted" then shouldn't we have stickers for:

"Recently Bereaved"
"Just divorced"
"Won the lotto last night"
"On my way to a job interview"

etc, etc.

Yeah, you could do yourself up a sticker for every occasion.
In your case, maybe "duck driving" would suffice, though.
Then again, maybe you could swap an i for the u ...

pog it

"Leanbh istigh (ann)".

Or you could put something like 'Tug aire: Leanbh istigh ann' or 'Leanbh istigh ann, bíodh a fhios agat!'

The Armchair Expert

"Baba ar Bord" would be my suggestion - perfectly clear. Babaí also ok. They have a much nicer ring than "Leanbh sa Charr" or equivalent.
"Gasúr sa Ghluaisteán" might also work. I think sa takes a séimhiú so it would be "Gasúr sa Charr" rather than "Gasúr sa gCarr" - doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely (although the "sa" thing may be canúint dependent).

deirdremf

The Armchair Expert wrote: »

"Baba ar Bord" would be my suggestion - perfectly clear. Babaí also ok. They have a much nicer ring than "Leanbh sa Charr" or equivalent.
"Gasúr sa Ghluaisteán" might also work. I think sa takes a séimhiú so it would be "Gasúr sa Charr" rather than "Gasúr sa gCarr" - doesn't roll off the tongue as nicely (although the "sa" thing may be canúint dependent).

I think baba and babaí are makey uppy English-based words - although have some currency, particularly as a result of Gaelscoil Irish.

SA does officially take a séimhiú - but many many good speakers, particularly in Connacht, follow it with an urú.

I put it down because it's snappy, and has the alliteration that makes "baby on board" roll off the tongue so easily.

Ar bord of course has nothing to do with being on board- it means on a table. Not quite the same thing, is it?

The Armchair Expert

deirdremf wrote: »

I think baba and babaí are makey uppy English-based words - although have some currency, particularly as a result of Gaelscoil Irish.

SA does officially take a séimhiú - but many many good speakers, particularly in Connacht, follow it with an urú.

I put it down because it's snappy, and has the alliteration that makes "baby on board" roll off the tongue so easily.

Ar bord of course has nothing to do with being on board- it means on a table. Not quite the same thing, is it?

Not trying to get into an argument. I was using "Baba" as the internationally recognisable equivalent of "Mama" or "Dada" precisely to avoid the béarlachas accusation. I can see how certain people might take exception to it - but find it mildly ironic that they would accept incorrect grammar in its place.

"Gasúr sa ghluaisteán" might be a reasonable compromise for those who don't like the use of the word "Baba" due to a perceived link to English.

Personally, I would put "Baba ar Bord" on my car. It's nice and snappy. Must try to copyright it actually...

To each their own!

ps - I forgot to point out "ar bord eitleáin" as an example of the use of "ar bord" for something other than a table. I don't think it's Béarlachas but will look into it further.

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=ar+bord

Aard

"ar bord" is the correct translation of "on board": on board a ship > ar bord loinge


Also "sa + urú" isn't incorrect; it's just not part of standard Irish. But it's well-attested in some dialects.

pog it

deirdremf wrote: »

Ar bord of course has nothing to do with being on board- it means on a table. Not quite the same thing, is it?

As far as I remember if it was 'on a table' the noun here would need to get a séimhiú so it would be 'ar bhord' and not 'ar bord'.

(I have no grammar books to hand so if this is incorrect let me know).

Gael

pog it wrote: »

As far as I remember if it was 'on a table' the noun here would need to get a séimhiú so it would be 'ar bhord' and not 'ar bord'.

(I have no grammar books to hand so if this is incorrect let me know).

You're correct. 'Ar bord' is considered a status (like 'ar saoire' or 'ar cuairt'), grammatically, whereas 'ar bhord' is considered a strictly physical position.

Ar bord - on board
Ar bhord - on a table

An gal gréine

deirdremf wrote: »

Ní hionann é go baileach, ach céard faoi:
Gasúr sa gCarr

If you live in Conamara, yes, however "gasúr" means "boy" only in the other Gaeltacht regions so leanbh/linbh would cover all infants and páiste/paistí all children.

An gal gréine

The Armchair Expert wrote: »

Personally, I would put "Baba ar Bord" on my car. It's nice and snappy. Must try to copyright it actually...



http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=ar+bord

I have heard "babaí" in many a Gaeltacht for baby and "Baba" as an abbreviation for Bairbre.

WetDaddy

Slightly off-topic, but the Baby On Board signs aren't (at least originally) for other drivers. They're for EMTs and the like, so they know to look for a baby / child in the event of an accident.

emmetfahy

Cheers/Sláinte eveyone!
Who know it would be so difficult!?

My preference, fo rwhat its worth, is "Gasúr sa Ghluaisteán" or "Leanbh Instigh" as they are most Irish sounding.

An gal gréine

Gluaisteán was composed in the last century for the motor-car but never taken-up by native speakers anywhere in the country while the term "carr" goes back centuries and was easily transferred to the motor-car.
"Carr" like "ród", the oldest word we have for road predate their English equivalents.

deirdremf

The Armchair Expert wrote: »

Not trying to get into an argument. I was using "Baba" as the internationally recognisable equivalent of "Mama" or "Dada" precisely to avoid the béarlachas accusation. I can see how certain people might take exception to it - but find it mildly ironic that they would accept incorrect grammar in its place.

"Gasúr sa ghluaisteán" might be a reasonable compromise for those who don't like the use of the word "Baba" due to a perceived link to English.

Personally, I would put "Baba ar Bord" on my car. It's nice and snappy. Must try to copyright it actually...

To each their own!

ps - I forgot to point out "ar bord eitleáin" as an example of the use of "ar bord" for something other than a table. I don't think it's Béarlachas but will look into it further.

http://www.focal.ie/Search.aspx?term=ar+bord

Gael wrote: »

You're correct. 'Ar bord' is considered a status (like 'ar saoire' or 'ar cuairt'), grammatically, whereas 'ar bhord' is considered a strictly physical position.

Ar bord - on board
Ar bhord - on a table

My apologies, I must have had one too many when I wrote that; although, it would be normal to qualify "ar bord", eg, ar bord loinge, ar bord eitleáin; I'm not sure that I have heard it with reference to a car?
But I am willing to be proved wrong on that point, from good sources only!

whatthefeck

Sorry slightly off topic
The etymology of the word Car is not English but Gaulish
Originally a two-wheeled Celtic war chariot.

Plates

Plates wrote: »

Can you be a bit more specific? If you have the sticker on the car - what event/behaviour is less likely to happen?

http://www.health-safety-signs.uk.com/productimages/Explosive-Hazchem.gif

Put one of these on your car and you won't have any tailgators.

Caledonia

What about Leanbh Linn?

Gael

Caledonia wrote: »

What about Leanbh Linn?

That could mean 'a child of ours'.

whatthefeck wrote: »

Sorry slightly off topic
The etymology of the word Car is not English but Gaulish
Originally a two-wheeled Celtic war chariot.

http://www.smo.uhi.ac.uk/gaeilge/donncha/focal/focal034.html

MathsManiac

An gal gréine wrote: »

Some feel it an unnecessary sticker but if it puts parents' minds at ease, knowing that there are "stupid" not to mention wreckless drivers aplenty out there, then what harm?

Plates wrote: »

And will stupid, wreckless drivers change their behaviour because of a sticker? And will stupid drivers understand it as gaeilge?

I'd genuinely love to know why people put these stickers on their cars - what's the real message?

Sorry to divert off on a tangent again, but I find this too amusing not to comment on - it's not the "wreckless" drivers that I worry about, it's the reckless ones. In fact, I would have thought that all drivers would be doing their best to remain wreck-less, especially if they have a baby on board!

An gal gréine

Well, feic you, MathsManiac, for spottin that! Maybe On-bords.ie can divert the post to the comedy section and we'll wreck a few more heads.:D

imbroglio

Cad faoi:

"Ag iompair linbh", nó a leithéid? Ag tagairt do "Ag iompair clainne" :P

deirdremf

imbroglio wrote: »

Cad faoi:

"Ag iompair linbh", nó a leithéid? Ag tagairt do "Ag iompair clainne" :P

Sa mbroinn, an ea?

AnamGlas

"Lán le leanbh"?

Insect Overlord

AnamGlas wrote: »

"Lán le leanbh"?

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