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Caught downloading.

  • 07-06-2011 12:23am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭


    Have you or know anyone in ire caught downloading copyrighted media,since the recent court cases on clamp down on illegal downloading,im not sure what the legal standing is at the moment..


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  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 7,943 Mod ✭✭✭✭Yakult


    Nope, considering nearly all my friends download music/games/movies.

    Maybe it takes time or maybe its just too much to ask.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,070 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Eircom can barely manage their customer service.. what makes you think they can manage to enforce whatever bull**** they agreed to with IRMA


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    The best thing about downloading films is that they don't have that annoying "You wouldn't steal a car, would you?" advert you can't skip that all DVDs have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 293 ✭✭barochoc


    Was it not just Eircom customers at risk of this or has the barrier moved?

    I remember reading that they were issuing a 3 strikes system. Any illegally obtained movies/music etc would result in a warning with the 3rd one being a ban & reported to the affected parties. :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,806 ✭✭✭✭KeithM89_old


    The best thing about downloading films is that they don't have that annoying "You wouldn't steal a car, would you?" advert you can't skip that all DVDs have.

    Unless you download this


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    KeithM89 wrote: »
    Unless you download this

    And when you're downloading that anti-download ad make-sure you get the official version and not some cheap immitation bootleg version like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    Weird, I got the impression that the world was coming to an end when I read the posts on boards about that Eircom case.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,368 ✭✭✭Daroxtar


    "Peer Block" . That is all


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    barochoc wrote: »
    Was it not just Eircom customers at risk of this or has the barrier moved?

    I remember reading that they were issuing a 3 strikes system. Any illegally obtained movies/music etc would result in a warning with the 3rd one being a ban & reported to the affected parties. :eek:

    I'm on eircom and have never gotten an e-mail, you can't access the pirate bay but thats about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭OMG Its EoinD


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    I'm on eircom and have never gotten an e-mail, you can't access the pirate bay but thats about it.

    http://www.hidemyass.com ? :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 78 ✭✭Cocaine


    I buy a lot more music now than before you could download music. But maybe that's just me, maaaybe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,341 ✭✭✭El Horseboxo


    I'm with upc and so far today I've downloaded 17 complete series of tv shows I watch. Doubt I'll hear a peep considering I do that volume regularly enough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,805 ✭✭✭Rothmans


    Rather than resources being wasted going after the millions that download this stuff illegally, it would probably be more sensible to only go after the people who are actually infringing on the copyrighted material ( ie the uplaoders of the stuff and those who host it)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,143 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    theres was a story in the sunday times yesterday about how eircom's 3 strikes company had accused 300 people in error..., anyone read it, the ST don't want anyone to read the paper or make it easy to pay for it online.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Trevor451


    Is anybody even with eircomn anymore?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭OMG Its EoinD


    Trevor451 wrote: »
    Is anybody even with eircomn anymore?

    Well I am on their 3mbit package. Happy enough as I don't download at all really. Just use it for Xbox and browsing. But I'm in a DSL only area and vodafone are ****e :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Im_EoinD wrote: »
    Well I am on their 3mbit package. Happy enough as I don't download at all really. Just use it for Xbox and browsing. But I'm in a DSL only area and vodafone are ****e :D

    You could probably download as much as you want because they don't inforce their download limit if you haven't been upgraded to NGB.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,048 ✭✭✭✭Snowie


    mmmmmmmm

    eircom and all that "clampdown" of illeagal downloading nobodys got the man power to do anything :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,867 ✭✭✭UglyBolloxFace


    I'm with upc and so far today I've downloaded 17 complete series of tv shows I watch. Doubt I'll hear a peep considering I do that volume regularly enough.

    How long the fook did that take? What's the overall size in GB?:eek:
    Also, what torrent site do you use?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,078 ✭✭✭Hal Emmerich


    I'm with upc and so far today I've downloaded 17 complete series of tv shows I watch. Doubt I'll hear a peep considering I do that volume regularly enough.
    Names or it didn't happen.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    You are all a bunch of noobs. Stop using torrents and use USENET. You have to pay, but the quality is far better. Just make sure your download client can read binary .nzb files and you are good to go. Great for legitimate iso downloads. USENET connections tend to average upwards of 500kB/s


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 373 ✭✭Iceboy


    Glad not to be asociated with eircom


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Iceboy wrote: »
    Glad not to be asociated with eircom

    Do you use the PSTN/phone infrastructure?


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    How long the fook did that take? What's the overall size in GB?:eek:
    Also, what torrent site do you use?

    People still use torrents? I remember megaupload giving me 2700 kb/s back in the day.. And you get a subscription to megamovies so you don't even have to bother downloading if you don't want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    People still use torrents? I remember megaupload giving me 2700 kb/s back in the day.. And you get a subscription to megamovies so you don't even have to bother downloading if you don't want.

    I use hotfile but if people just want new releases torrents will max out your connection just as easy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 309 ✭✭OMG Its EoinD


    You could probably download as much as you want because they don't inforce their download limit if you haven't been upgraded to NGB.

    Well I use 100+GB a month. Never had a word said to me. But I stream rather than torrent :-/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,305 ✭✭✭DOC09UNAM


    lol torrents.

    It used to be the days of Rapidshare, and now it's Filesonic.

    Eventually they'll cave to the pressure like Rapidshare did and some other company will take over that mantle.

    By far the best option imo, that and jdownloader = effortless.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 95 ✭✭Karamoja


    Why the hell are people still using torrents? Probably old people and culchies. LOL

    A certain website + filesonic is the way to go.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    Great next time I'm on the Pirate Bay I'll feel stupid and not even know why. Thanks guys


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Naikon wrote: »
    You are all a bunch of noobs. Stop using torrents and use USENET. You have to pay, but the quality is far better. Just make sure your download client can read binary .nzb files and you are good to go. Great for legitimate iso downloads. USENET connections tend to average upwards of 500kB/s

    Shush!

    We don't want these nublets drawing attention to usenet. Only reason they haven't gone after usenet in a major way is because torrents are so much more popular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Forest Master


    Naikon wrote: »
    You are all a bunch of noobs. Stop using torrents and use USENET. You have to pay, but the quality is far better. Just make sure your download client can read binary .nzb files and you are good to go. Great for legitimate iso downloads. USENET connections tend to average upwards of 500kB/s

    You sound like the noob, mate. Why would I pay for free stuff? I get over 500kbps average speeds on Torrent Day & Thebox.bz & MMAtracker.net - these are all free sign-up sites, but you need to watch your ratio, so people actually seed on them. LOL @ you calling people noobs - you're the one paying!

    And anyone who knows anything about internet isn't with Eircom anyway. Eircom is for old people who never changed their phone provider out of dumb loyalty since it was Telecom Eireann, or people who know nothing about the internet or speed vs. value vs. caps. It's the slowest BB provider out there. The fastest ones in Ireland are UPC and Magnet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭AhSureTisGrand


    Naikon wrote: »
    You are all a bunch of noobs. Stop using torrents and use USENET. You have to pay, but the quality is far better. Just make sure your download client can read binary .nzb files and you are good to go. Great for legitimate iso downloads. USENET connections tend to average upwards of 500kB/s

    I don't understand. Why would I pay when what I want is free stuff?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭hardCopy


    UN says that cutting off a persons internet access is a violation of their human rights.

    Suck that IRMA.

    http://mashable.com/2011/06/06/un-internet-access-human-right/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭murrayp4


    Naikon wrote: »
    You are all a bunch of noobs. Stop using torrents and use USENET. You have to pay, but the quality is far better. Just make sure your download client can read binary .nzb files and you are good to go. Great for legitimate iso downloads. USENET connections tend to average upwards of 500kB/s

    Torrent download speeds on UPC can be pretty fast...some up to 2mbps


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭Irish Halo


    Naikon wrote: »
    use USENET. You have to pay
    Not to be awkward but if I was going to download stuff and pay for it surely I should pay whoever is creating the content not some third party which has no hand in the actual making of the product I am enjoying and passes none of that money back to the producer?

    Piracy may or may not be stealing but paying to pirate seems stupid to me ...


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    UseNET wasn't initially designed with the intention of filesharing.

    It's like a big version of Boards. It's just over time, with bigger bandwith filesharing became part of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Rothmans wrote: »
    Rather than resources being wasted going after the millions that download this stuff illegally, it would probably be more sensible to only go after the people who are actually infringing on the copyrighted material ( ie the uplaoders of the stuff and those who host it)


    Have you never heard of torrents or how they work? We'd all be fooked if they went after who 'hosts' it ;)
    murrayp4 wrote: »
    Torrent download speeds on UPC can be pretty fast...some up to 2mbps

    I would sincerely hope that if I had the 50mbps or 100mbps that my torrents would d/l a HELL of a lot faster than that.

    My torrents would easily reach that on my Magnet 24mbit connection.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Naikon wrote: »
    You are all a bunch of noobs. Stop using torrents and use USENET. You have to pay, but the quality is far better. Just make sure your download client can read binary .nzb files and you are good to go.

    Bahahahahahaha! Whats that old addage about a fool and his money? Why would you pay for free stuff?
    Naikon wrote: »
    Great for legitimate iso downloads. USENET connections tend to average upwards of 500kB/s

    Wow, I dont actually lol very often, as in actually laugh out loud but I did when I saw that. Join a private torrent site where ratios are monitored, and you will get great speeds. I regularly get 2MB down on some of the sites I go on. Thats 4 times what you pay for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos




  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,738 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    Do you watch your films in fastforward? What earthly difference could it make how quickly you download them once it's faster than 1 second of video per second? Or do you watch several films at once?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,151 ✭✭✭Thomas_S_Hunterson


    People still use torrents? I remember megaupload giving me 2700 kb/s back in the day.. And you get a subscription to megamovies so you don't even have to bother downloading if you don't want.

    Streaming it (at the same quality) will result in similar (the same?) data transferral so you may as well download it as opposed to stream it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Lanaier


    Torrents all the way.

    USENET - The 80's are long gone lads.
    I'm also using a keyboard instead of a quill and ink. Am I a n00b?

    lol at people saying torrents are for n00bs, as if filesonic type downloads are something new.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,087 ✭✭✭markc1184


    The one time I forgot to use a proxy to download some stuff the mother got sent a 'warning' letter from Eircom. Even she laughed at it because all it basically done was advertise their music hub section of their website.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Have you never heard of torrents or how they work? We'd all be fooked if they went after who 'hosts' it ;)



    I think what rotherman meant was that they should go after the guy who uploads the torrent file. The guy who ripped(off) the movie, and was the first to upload it, rather than going after the thousands of people who came after him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Cianos


    Do you watch your films in fastforward? What earthly difference could it make how quickly you download them once it's faster than 1 second of video per second? Or do you watch several films at once?

    Last night I felt like watching a movie before going to bed, found rapidshare files within a minute, download took around 20 mins. Happy to pay for that kind of service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 949 ✭✭✭M.J.M.C


    MY GOD

    It hurt to read some of these replies. How this quickly turned into a USENET Vs Torrent debate......

    Those of you that use USENET think you are more elite than those that use torrent sites?? Really? You're just the same except -
    A - You are paying B - Your ISP can still see what your downloading unless your using a VPN
    Posts that torrents can download "as fast as 2Mb/s" - I'm embarrassed reading that. It depends on your connection and your tracker. Try join SCC and see what your connection speed is. 1000's of 1Gbps and 10Gbps boxes there...
    Always max out a 100Mb/s broadband connection. Same with USENET but you pay for usenet.
    Someone said "Quality on USENET is better" - How can you even type that? 99% of releases will be on p2p networks too, AND p2p have dedicated trackers/teams for quality (HD Movies etc) - Scene releases have rules to stick with so often p2p release are BETTER in quality.
    Someone posted "Peer Block" - yeah good luck with that, its only as good as its blocklist which can be outdated so quickly and bypassed by copyright owners in seconds.

    BACK ON TOPIC
    No i've never received a copy infringement letter and IF i did, they would need more evidence than my IP address alone.

    Being part of the Scene - now that's Elite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,692 ✭✭✭Dublin_Gunner


    Do you watch your films in fastforward? What earthly difference could it make how quickly you download them once it's faster than 1 second of video per second? Or do you watch several films at once?


    I'd much rather d/l a 720p or 1080p movie, as fast as possible, and not watch some crap stream, thank you very much.

    I also tend to burn them to DVD for watching on a DVD player at a later stage, or for the missus.

    So yeah, d/l at the fastest speed possible is always preferred.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Do you watch your films in fastforward? What earthly difference could it make how quickly you download them once it's faster than 1 second of video per second? Or do you watch several films at once?

    Unlike streaming, which is done over UDP, and thus susceptible to the dropping of frames, downloading a movie(file) does not do so linearly. Instead it downloads chunks. It is rare that you can watch a file as it is downloading Even if the indicator bar 'fills up' from left to right, that does not accurately represent how the file is transferred. As a result you cant start watching a movie as you download it. However, once it is downloaded, you then have the movie in its entirety, without any dropped packets/frames, and no stuttering.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭Lanaier


    Anyway OP, I live in China.

    Not likely my ISP will be too arsed about copyright infringement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭busyliving


    How about this piracy advert here :D

    But on topic, I’ve never been caught downloading, but if I was I’d just lie my way out of it...also can very easily wipe and destroy my harddrive if necessary


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