Dublin v Kildare

looseygoosey

Now this one is Juicy.

It might be a bit early but how do people see this pan out?

It will be a close game if anyone is going to win its only going to be by 4 max.

I hope Kildare will win and have a good feeling about it.It won't be much of a shock either in my mind

ShamoBuc

Probably a bit early but it should be a cracker.

Fireball07

It will be a very good game.

Very hard to say who will win. Kildare cannot afford to hit the same amount of wides as they did in the last 2 games while Dublin would want to be a lot more fluent. Both sides have very good defences, it musy be said. I think player for player the Dublin forwards are better but you'd still think that if Kildare can nullify Bernard Brogan and are organised everywhere else, they'll severely limit Dublin's scoring chances. Obviously that is very very difficult to do but not impossible.

I think Kildare might just shade it.

Temp Barry

Kildare are stronger around the middle of the park, but Dublin have the better forwards.

My prediction:
Dublin 2-11 Kildare 0-14

Cill Dara Abu

Do'nt forget Kildare still have Daryl Flynn and Michael Conway to come back into the team for the Dublin match, and they are good players.

People seem to forget that kildare hit 16 points on Sunday, thats fairly good scoring, along with the 18 wides Kildare had 34 shots at the goal, thats a shot every 2 minutes.

blackbelt

Dublin to shade this one.I just think yet again that Bernard Brogan will really up his performance and score enough to get us through and Kildares shooting is bad enough without having a swarm defense like Dublins to add to matters.

Midfield is 50-50 but when has Cluxton kicked it down the middle of the pitch consistently.I think Diarmuid Connolly is another huge threat and Alan Brogan seems to be back to his very best after 1 or 2 average seasons.

Kildare exposed a very bad Meath side whose wing backs were anonymous in the second half.The amount of space the Kildare wing forward in particular had by the Cusack was criminal and Dublin certainly won't be anywhere as loose as Meath were last Sunday.

Pity I won't be here to see this one.:( Has the potential to be the game of the season like 2009.

Plentyofice

Should be an absolute cracker. Dublin tend to be highly reliant on Bernard Brogan as their leader. Nullify him and that's a major advantage. Would love to see the betting for this one. Kildare are averaging a shot at goal (40 versus Wicklow and 34 versus Meath)every 2 minutes. I think they'll come on and improve their accuracy as the season progresses (they'll have to). Head say Dublin by the narrowest- heart says Kildare

Cill Dara Abu

blackbelt wrote: »

Dublin to shade this one.I just think yet again that Bernard Brogan will really up his performance and score enough to get us through and Kildares shooting is bad enough without having a swarm defense like Dublins to add to matters.

Midfield is 50-50 but when has Cluxton kicked it down the middle of the pitch consistently.I think Diarmuid Connolly is another huge threat and Alan Brogan seems to be back to his very best after 1 or 2 average seasons.

Kildare exposed a very bad Meath side whose wing backs were anonymous in the second half.The amount of space the Kildare wing forward in particular had by the Cusack was criminal and Dublin certainly won't be anywhere as loose as Meath were last Sunday.

Pity I won't be here to see this one.:( Has the potential to be the game of the season like 2009.

I think thats very harsh, that Meath team is more or less the same side that hammered the Dubs last year.

listermint

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

Do'nt forget Kildare still have Daryl Flynn and Michael Conway to come back into the team for the Dublin match, and they are good players.

People seem to forget that kildare hit 16 points on Sunday, thats fairly good scoring, along with the 18 wides Kildare had 34 shots at the goal, thats a shot every 2 minutes.

Im sorry. It was a disgraceful amount of wides absolutely disgraceful.

most of them werent even pressure shots, as meath were not at the races.

It was a poor match overall against the so called 'up and coming' 2011 leinster teams. Im hoping not more of the same.

dcr22B

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

I think thats very harsh, that Meath team is more or less the same side that hammered scored three dubious goals against the Dubs last year.

Fixed that for you

It will be very tight but there's no way that Kildare will create the amount of scoring chances that they have done in their two previous games due to the defensive nature of Dublin's tactics.

Could see this one going all the way to extra time (I think it applies to provincial quarters and semis) and I honestly can't call it.

listermint

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

I think thats very harsh, that Meath team is more or less the same side that hammered the Dubs last year.

Were you watching the same match??

I was there. it was deplorable start to finish.

blackbelt

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

I think thats very harsh, that Meath team is more or less the same side that hammered the Dubs last year.

In the context of where Dublin and Meath were at at the time,it would seem so but take a look at how their paths have gone since last June.Meath don't have a sound game plan.They were doing quite well until Banty decided to bring the O Rourkes out of the full forward line and back into the half forwards and Kildare further took advantage.Also Meath have had a few players walk out on the team.I think Bantys decision to bring back Geraghty could pay off but Dublin are well consolidated at this stage and used to applying their game plan in Croke Park.

There is no excusing Meaths performance in the 2nd half.The sending off may have been harsh but the officials applied the rules to the letter of the rulebook...to strike or attempt to strike.3 points is not good enough and Meath didn't build up too much of a half time lead to afford scoring 3 points while shipping 11 points in the second.

The_Kew_Tour

really tough to call I think Dublin will shade it but only just.

Although Kildare deserve bit of luck for change.

Trampas

Kildare need to improve their shooting otherwise I see Dublin winning this by a 4 points.

Some of the Kildare players seem to afraid to shoot. Maybe less time in the gym and more on shooting practice.

rpurfield

just stayed for the first half of the dublin game sunday cos i couldnt stomach watching them win cos laois were so inept the game was awful.kildare wont walk through them the way they walked through us.i noticed the right half back stayed hanging around in front of the full back line and the full back didnt follow the laois full forward out the field which completly shut up shop.on the other hand i think kildare have the better midfield so it should be a cracker

Novella

If I was a betting woman, I'd probably put my money on Dublin but because I'm from Kildare, I'm rooting for a Kildare win. Kildare seriously need to work on their shooting accuracy because the amount of wides have been sickening. Also, they never really seem to get going until the second half and if they do that against Dublin, I can see Brogan scoring a goal or two and leaving them in a compromising position come half-time.

ShamoBuc

Novella wrote: »

If I was a betting woman, I'd probably put my money on Dublin but because I'm from Kildare, I'm rooting for a Kildare win. Kildare seriously need to work on their shooting accuracy because the amount of wides have been sickening. Also, they never really seem to get going until the second half and if they do that against Dublin, I can see Brogan scoring a goal or two and leaving them in a compromising position come half-time.

worth a watch for that alone;)

Trampas

Match Betting Dublin 4/9 Draw 8/1 Kildare 9/4

DARK-KNIGHT

This is so tough to call either dublins sheer awesome forwards well Bernard brogan

Or Kildare fit hungry dogged and the way they play for each other!

My heart says Kildare my gut feeling says if we can isolate brogan we have a great chance ie take there leader and tie him down!

Should be a great game between two entertaining teams!!

Best of luck to our beloved lillies and to our next door neighbours too

Insane Rambling

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Thanks!

blowitupref

I'd fancy Kildare to win this by a point or two however they will need to improve on the wide count from the last day. Dublin won't mind the back door route as they will make the quarter finals without too much trouble.

bren2001

As I stated in the Kildare Meath thread I expect Dublin to win by a few points. Kildare are very poor infront of the posts and Dublin rely on a good defense.

I think man for man the system Dublin plays enables them to have a better defense and we have a very good attack and not just in Brogan.

People think if you shut Bernard Brogan up, Dublin are done. Thats not true at all. Brogan on a bad day still scores 5 or 6 points. He pulls two men off the ball as thats whats needed to stop him. We are pretty accurate in front of the posts and have plenty of goals in us.

I think the critical point for Kildare is not to win midfield (as I expect them to do) but dominate. If they can do that I can see them putting up a big fight. If they do not dominate I expect Dublin to pull away towards the end.

Cill Dara Abu

Trampas wrote: »

Kildare need to improve their shooting otherwise I see Dublin winning this by a 4 points.

Some of the Kildare players seem to afraid to shoot. Maybe less time in the gym and more on shooting practice.

Was I watching the wrong match? The exact opposite was the problem, Kildare were shooting on sight.

Was listening to Niall Carew(Kildare selector) yesterday and I think he hit the nail on the head when he said our support play i.e running of the shoulder was poor, which is why alot of wild shooting happend.

I for one am not worried about the 18 wides it would be worse if we wernt creating the chances and we have 3 weeks to improve on this.

Bring on the Dubs...:D

Cill Dara Abu

Trampas wrote: »

Match Betting Dublin 4/9 Draw 8/1 Kildare 9/4

I'll be having some of that 9/4 :pac:

LuckyGent88

Think this will be one of the games of the year. Really enjoying the way Kildare are playing. If they cut out the stupid wides they had in the Meath game i think we will be in for a cracker with Dublin just about scraping it by a point or two due to Brogan brilliance.

df1985

Kildare, wides and all, put up 16 points sunday, if they cut out even half the wides theyll put up 20 points plus. Dublin will have to limit their chances big time. Dublin will need goals in my opinion, should be a cracker. Kildare by 3.

Het-Field

Two years ago, we witnessed a humdinger of a game between two raw, but hungry sides. On that day, Dublin's experience, strength in depth, and greater eye for a score won the day, and it took a lot having seen Ger Brennan depart for an early bath.

Today, the raw materials which were on show in July 2009 have been harnessed, steeled, and enhanced. Today, we are seeing the product of what has transpired as a result of that Day in Croker in July 2009.

These are good sides. Both should be considered among the elite. Both have strengths and both have small weaknesses. Dublin's midfield will have to be at its best to get the jump on Kildare's fine midfield. The team will also have to contend with a solid Kildare half-back line. On the other hand, Kildare's questionable full back line will have to take on the Brogan bothers, and the rejuvinated Diarmuid Connolly, while Kildare's wayward forwardline will have to find a way to shoot accurately from long distances, and untenable angles, as Dublin's swarmed defence will gobble up any mistakes which Kildare may allow.

I simply cannot predict how this one will go.

Cill Dara Abu

Het-Field wrote: »

Two years ago, we witnessed a humdinger of a game between two raw, but hungry sides. On that day, Dublin's experience, strength in depth, and greater eye for a score won the day, and it took a lot having seen Ger Brennan depart for an early bath.

Today, the raw materials which were on show in July 2009 have been harnessed, steeled, and enhanced. Today, we are seeing the product of what has transpired as a result of that Day in Croker in July 2009.

These are good sides. Both should be considered among the elite. Both have strengths and both have small weaknesses. Dublin's midfield will have to be at its best to get the jump on Kildare's fine midfield. The team will also have to contend with a solid Kildare half-back line. On the other hand, Kildare's questionable full back line will have to take on the Brogan bothers, and the rejuvinated Diarmuid Connolly, while Kildare's wayward forwardline will have to find a way to shoot accurately from long distances, and untenable angles, as Dublin's swarmed defence will gobble up any mistakes which Kildare may allow.

I simply cannot predict how this one will go.

How do you come to the conclusion that the Kildare full-back line is questionable?

10 and 7 points conceded in two games? Yeah very dodgy alright:rolleyes:

blackbelt

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

How do you come to the conclusion that the Kildare full-back line is questionable?

10 and 7 points conceded in two games? Yeah very dodgy alright:rolleyes:

Against Meath and Wicklow yes but better teams have found their way through the Kildare backline in the past and it would have to be considered the weaker link in an overall strong 15.

Louth put up a huge score on them in last years Leinster Championship and more recently Tyrone buried them in the league.With the quality of the Dublin forwards,they could be stretched.

roy rodgers

The kildare juniors are playing the dubs tonight in parnell park.

Hopefully its a start of a losing streak for the dubs!:D

Cill Dara Abu

Half-Time: Dublin 0-01 1-06 Kildare:D

roy rodgers

Hows that kildare defence looking now.:D

Come on the lillies

Cill Dara Abu

Full-Time: Kildare 1-9 Dublin 0-5

roy rodgers

come on the lillies
kildare 1-9 dublin 0-5

kildare9

Repeat of that score in 2 weeks would be great
Peter Kelly would have been the perfect man to keep Brogan quiet. Its going to be one tough game for us, but I believe we can beat them.
Hon the Lilies

roy rodgers

It will be a cracker of a game it. really looking forward to it and with kildare at 9/4 i'll be putting my money on them.
The dubs have all ready have one eye on sam which will work in kildares favour as we only take each game as it comes, and they wont see the fittness and speed we will have them..
Not to worried about the talk of all the wides they had because all we have to do is win by one.
As the brogan brothers well they are class but I can see the kildare defenders doing there job and just holding them to their minimum.
Kildare are more hungry for this one as mcgeeney as them well focused and they are getting better and better as each game goes so I can see them winning by 4.
Not a bad thing for dublin getting beaten by kildare as it to will relight the fire that they had earlier in the season and they should be still there come august..
Come on Kildare

dutre

think kildare are a bit further ahead on fitness at this stage, but the dubs will be defo knockin on the door come september

roy rodgers

imagine kildare dublin all ireland final:D

df1985

Regardless of which team wins or loses I think both teams will still be in the running come august or even september

Back door for Dublin for a change could even do them the world of good.As a Kildare man safe to say everyone in the county wants a Leinster championship at least under mcgeeney. Also cant beleieve the buzz there is for this already, everyone cant wait.

ned rierson

roy rodgers wrote: »

imagine kildare dublin all ireland final:D

could of happend last year

Tristram

Hard to call. Kildare impressed me in the second half last Sunday but they won't have near the same amount of space against Dublin. Might also find it more difficult to move the ball out of their own half. If there's only a point or two in it at half time I think Kildare will give it a real go. Should be a good game. Regardless of the result both teams should have a good run this summer. Not sure I'd mind seeing Dublin go the qualifier route. Less hype and more games would suit.

dcr22B

dutre wrote: »

think kildare are a bit further ahead on fitness at this stage, but the dubs will be defo knockin on the door come september

I would disagree on that one for sure. Both teams are just as fit as each other.

Dublin CANNOT afford to lose another game like this even if it does leave us open to a 3 week gap to the quarter finals IF we were to win Leinster.

DARK-KNIGHT

Great to seer this thread positive from both sides respecting each other!! Should be a cracker

largepants

blackbelt wrote: »

Against Meath and Wicklow yes but better teams have found their way through the Kildare backline in the past and it would have to be considered the weaker link in an overall strong 15.

Louth put up a huge score on them in last years Leinster Championship and more recently Tyrone buried them in the league.With the quality of the Dublin forwards,they could be stretched.

Fair enough blackbelt it's hard to pick holes in your argument above. However Kildares stamina will surely test the frailty in this area of Dublins game. Last years AI semi and this years league are two cases in point. Dublin didn't have the stamina to see out either game. If Kildare are close enough (there is a possibility that Dublin will be too far ahead) with 25 minutes to go, I firmly believe they will win it. Dublins lack of ability to see out games could come back to haunt them again sometime again this year. It may not be this game but it's nearly bound to happen.

T_Joey

bren2001 wrote: »

As I stated in the Kildare Meath thread I expect Dublin to win by a few points. Kildare are very poor infront of the posts and Dublin rely on a good defense.

I think man for man the system Dublin plays enables them to have a better defense and we have a very good attack and not just in Brogan.

People think if you shut Bernard Brogan up, Dublin are done. Thats not true at all. Brogan on a bad day still scores 5 or 6 points. He pulls two men off the ball as thats whats needed to stop him. We are pretty accurate in front of the posts and have plenty of goals in us.

I think the critical point for Kildare is not to win midfield (as I expect them to do) but dominate. If they can do that I can see them putting up a big fight. If they do not dominate I expect Dublin to pull away towards the end.

Did you watch the league final??? Brogan went off and Dublin fell apart!

hisholinessnb

T_Joey wrote: »

Did you watch the league final??? Brogan went off and Dublin fell apart!

Dublin were falling apart before Brogan came off in the league final.

Also bear in mind Dublin did play without Brogan in a few league games and won them both.

Class player alright but, league final aside, every time we have been without him recently, or when he had a bad game, someone else stepped up to the mark.

The Rooster

T_Joey wrote: »

Did you watch the league final??? Brogan went off and Dublin fell apart!

That they did, but if you watched it you'd know Dublin were short Bernard Brogan, Alan Brogan, Diarmuid Connolly and Bryan Cullen when the falling apart happened.

Careful Now

Kildare could click any game and if they managed to convert even 80% of their chances they could win handy.

Cill Dara Abu

My prediction

Kildare 2-17
Dublin 1-15

looseygoosey

My prediction...

Dublin 2 : 14
Kildare 1 : 18

hisholinessnb

Should be a cracker, very hard to call.
The one advantage Dublin have is their potential for goals which I feel is more of a threat than Kildare's.

Kildare 0-15 Dublin 1-13