Topaz gets you further?

faw1tytowers

Where do you buy your petrol/Diesel?

Topaz says it gets you further...Does it or Do you think every Topaz in the country has the same standard?

My nearest is Texaco and next is Topaz I used to fill at the Topaz as it was usually a penny cheaper but now they are usually the same so I have used the Texaco mostly now. At the moment the Topaz is cheaper but again just by the penny at 149.9 petrol and 141.9 Diesil.

Recently though have started to wonder as I have with many garages over time am I getting good quality petrol? How do you feel about this? And who do you find best?

thom119

i usually fill at topaz as it's closest to me and pretty much the same price as most petrol stations around

last i filled up at a texaco in clondalkin as it was 146.9 for petrol compared to 150.9 in topaz
feels like it's going a fair bit further than the last topaz fill too

johndaman66

I think your going to get some very vocal opinions on both sides of the spectrum on this one!

As far as I know though the very bulk of the petrol and diesel we use in Ireland comes from the one distributor so there is little to differentiate it.

There were times that I imagined I got very poor mileage from a tank of petrol and visa versa but you need to compare like with like, driving conditions, tyre pressures, long journeys versus lots of short journeys, weight being carried on the car, etc etc

Nissan doctor

The test that showed a tank of topaz fuel going further then whatever other fuel they tested against would have been achieved using an unbelievably precise set of circumstances and conditions which could almost certainly never be replicated in the real world.

Driving style, tyre pressures, junk in the boot etc would all effect fuel consumption vastly more then some minute additive in the fuel IMO.

jaffa20

I try to avoid topaz because they are popping up everywhere. There seems to be less Maxol stations but i alway seem to get better mpg out of there and their forecorts are generally cleaner so i try stick to it.

faw1tytowers

jaffa20 wrote: »

I try to avoid topaz because they are popping up everywhere. There seems to be less Maxol stations but i alway seem to get better mpg out of there and their forecorts are generally cleaner so i try stick to it.

True enough not so many about, only one I am aware of in Galway. But its not so convenient as its stuck in a shopping center. Think there is one in Salthill too.

faw1tytowers

I used to be an Esso fan but find them priced higher than most. What about Texoil too.... My Texaco was Emo and the Topaz was Statoil.

Is the general thought then that really its all the same stuff we are getting?

Daegerty

I never go to Topaz unless i'm afraid I won't make it home with what's in the tank.

Don't know why but the places bug me. Maybe because a lot of them are rebranded 'shell go to hell' stations, not that I am a supporter of the 'shell go to hell' campaign but it bothers me that they are trying to pull the wool over people's eyes like that.

When you go to a Topaz they all look the same and you can tell straight away that it's run by a massive company that wants them all looking the same and they are not the cheapest either.

I try to go to Amber, Maxol or preferably an independent if its not too expensive that doesn't have a fooking massive canopy over it. Those canopies are a fooking eyesore when they came in and I'll support anyone who didn't feel the need to build one of those ugly ould baeshtards when they were building their filling station even if they are a cent or two more but if its 3 cent more i wont bother.

faw1tytowers

Daegerty wrote: »

I never go to Topaz unless i'm afraid I won't make it home with what's in the tank.

Don't know why but the places bug me. Maybe because a lot of them are rebranded 'shell go to hell' stations, not that I am a supporter of the 'shell go to hell' campaign but it bothers me that they are trying to pull the wool over people's eyes like that.

When you go to a Topaz they all look the same and you can tell straight away that it's run by a massive company that wants them all looking the same and they are not the cheapest either.

I try to go to Amber, Maxol or preferably an independent if its not too expensive that doesn't have a fooking massive canopy over it. Those canopies are a fooking eyesore when they came in and I'll support anyone who didn't feel the need to build one of those ugly ould baeshtards when they were building their filling station even if they are a cent or two more but if its 3 cent more i wont bother.

Lol the only thing that changed about our Topaz was the over head thingie everything else is still the same old way, family run garage. In fact so is teh Texaco and Texoil. The Texoil has no over head thingie you will be happy to know

bazz26

I don't use Topaz as any of them in my area are never the cheapest. I wouldn't believe that Topaz will get you further marketing lark either. If you want to improve fuel economy start by adjusting your driving style.

Chriscl1

i used to always only use maxol when i had jap imports but now i can use any petrol as this car alters its ignition to suit the fuel ron i like to use texaco, the maxol just seems weak if you get me. i filled up in the uk with shell super or something and drove from birmingham - manchester - holyhead - dublin port - kildare and got the best average mpg ive ever had.

dell1211

johndaman66 wrote: »

As far as I know though the very bulk of the petrol and diesel we use in Ireland comes from the one distributor so there is little to differentiate it.

Not true, for example in dublin there are 4 tank farms/loading points(top, topaz, esso & another partnership one).

Anyway the difference is when the fuel is being pumped into the artics, at this point each specific oil company will add their own additive(eg texacos techron, topazs clean stuff, maxols old additive etc)

dell1211

In relation to topazs claim of x miles extra, Im sure it was conducted in the same way as lucozade coducted their tests to come up with the 33% longer claim. Do a pile of tests and publish the one with the best results for you.

A famous old saying about statistics, its like a bikini what it shows is suggestive, what it hides is vital

JustAddWater

Some topaz were statoil and statoil were pure ****e

Therefore I can't trust any topaz. Maxilla and texaco both ghive me great mpg so I hotbeds usually

dell1211

JustAddWater wrote: »

Therefore I can't trust any topaz. Maxilla and texaco both ghive me great mpg so I hotbeds usually

Iphone:p

James2693

dell1211 wrote: »

Iphone:p

iPad!:P

johndaman66

dell1211 wrote: »

Not true, for example in dublin there are 4 tank farms/loading points(top, topaz, esso & another partnership one).

Anyway the difference is when the fuel is being pumped into the artics, at this point each specific oil company will add their own additive(eg texacos techron, topazs clean stuff, maxols old additive etc)

Fair enough mate. Its just I had seen mentioned before here on numerous occasions that the very bulk of the petrol at least that we use in Republic comes from the same distributor....I take your point though as you seem to know.

Topaz because I have a fuel card which generally means I pay a few cent less per litre than other stations.

Ban Ki Moon

I just noticed what Topaz fuel was doing to my car, wont be going back!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056289020

Max Power1

johndaman66 wrote: »

Fair enough mate. Its just I had seen mentioned before here on numerous occasions that the very bulk of the petrol at least that we use in Republic comes from the same distributor....I take your point though as you seem to know.

It does!

The only difference in the fuels sold on the forecourts by different brands are the brand specific additives, and different storage facilities.

dell1211

Max Power1 wrote: »

It does!

The only difference in the fuels sold on the forecourts by different brands are the brand specific additives, and different storage facilities.

it doesnt, as i said in my previous post there are several tank farms opperated independently by several different oil companies in dublin port, each of these oil companies buy their fuel from different refineries(eg some from whitegate some from france some from pembroke....). It may be case that some of these tank farms buy from the same refineries/loading points but you cant say that all do.

dell1211 wrote: »

Not true, for example in dublin there are 4 tank farms/loading points(top, topaz, esso & another partnership one).

Anyway the difference is when the fuel is being pumped into the artics, at this point each specific oil company will add their own additive(eg texacos techron, topazs clean stuff, maxols old additive etc)

Nissan doctor

dell1211 wrote: »

it doesnt, as i said in my previous post there are several tank farms opperated independently by several different oil companies in dublin port, each of these oil companies buy their fuel from different refineries(eg some from whitegate some from france some from pembroke....). It may be case that some of these tank farms buy from the same refineries/loading points but you cant say that all do.

Why are you writing everything in bold??

dell1211

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Why are you writing everything in bold??

its the new motors fad ever since the octavia jokes died out, all the cool kids are at it

Max Power1

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Why are you writing everything in bold??

not to mention incorrectly!

dell1211

Max Power1 wrote: »

not to mention incorrectly!

good man, play ignorant to the facts which have proved you wrong

Max Power1

dell1211 wrote: »

good man, play ignorant to the facts which have proved you wrong

Ah the good old boards argument. "Im right your wrong, FACHT"

Facepalm

You play a fool then to the marketing, pay your more expensive fuel prices for the same product.

dell1211

Max Power1 wrote: »

Ah the good old boards argument. "Im right your wrong, FACHT"

Facepalm

You play a fool then to the marketing, pay your more expensive fuel prices for the same product.

no actually my information comes from being in dublin port every day, usually with 42,000ltrs of fuel behind me

zilog_jones

I don't see anything special about Topaz either, I usually go there because they're just the most common around here. I'd like to try out Maxol and Texaco more to compare them but I have to go out of my way to use them (e.g. in Limerick I have to drive to the other side of town to get to a decently priced Maxol, or any Texaco).

I just bought my first diesel a few months ago and I'm completely paranoid about buying diesel from any of the cheap indy garages

Eleganza

http://brandireland.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/topaz-and-their-dishonest-greenwash-advertising/

T-Maxx

My car can't read so it's all the same ie petrol=petrol.

coylemj

dell1211 wrote: »

no actually my information comes from being in dublin port every day, usually with 42,000ltrs of fuel behind me

What you see happening in Dublin isn't how it works in the rest of the country. In Dublin port the major oil companies operate independent storage facilities, in other parts of the country there are shared facilities so the same storage tank in Galway or Wexford could supply different brand networks.

I might have the specific brands wrong but a few years ago it was well known that the Shell storage facility in Galway supplied Texaco and Shell filling stations in the west and the reverse happened in the SE where a Texaco facility supplied all of the Shell and Texaco stations in that region.

robbie_998

thom119 wrote: »

i usually fill at topaz as it's closest to me and pretty much the same price as most petrol stations around

last i filled up at a texaco in clondalkin as it was 146.9 for petrol compared to 150.9 in topaz
feels like it's going a fair bit further than the last topaz fill too

surely you mean 146.6 the last time i saw it.

but they were also giving out vouchers for the next time you put petrol in your car (or diesel) you get about €2 off the next time

and was there not something else in the Texaco petrol that apparently cleans engines ?

Daegerty

Just having a go off this new fangled 'typing in bold' fad that has come along. although it is no longer cool at this stage

zilog_jones

robbie_998 wrote: »

and was there not something else in the Texaco petrol that apparently cleans engines ?

Texaco has "Techron" which is another additive that claims to clean your engine and improve economy. I'm sure all the major brands like Maxol and Esso have similar additives in their fuel too, though they don't seem to advertise it so I'm not certain.

Mc Love

Daegerty wrote: »

Just having a go off this new fangled 'typing in bold' fad that has come along. although it is no longer cool at this stage

After hours is that way ->

thom119

robbie_998 wrote: »

surely you mean 146.6 the last time i saw it.

but they were also giving out vouchers for the next time you put petrol in your car (or diesel) you get about €2 off the next time

and was there not something else in the Texaco petrol that apparently cleans engines ?

down to 145.3 today
i never got a voucher

theteal

Zaid Little Blowgun wrote: »

Topaz because I have a fuel card which generally means I pay a few cent less per litre than other stations.

This. Usually 4-5c per litre cheaper than the advertised price. Bloody needed it too with the amount I was filling up.

endamurtagh

I drive between galway and sligo reguraly. same road nearly the same road conditions weather permitting. I used to fill the car with Esso disel, one week i changed to Topaz, i noticed that i got nearly a 100km more from the topaz fill, so i filled with esso again and again got less milage from the tank. filled with topaz again and i was nealy a 100km up on the last esso fill. its 1cent more but its well worth it. topaz it is.

Eleganza

endamurtagh wrote: »

I drive between galway and sligo reguraly. same road nearly the same road conditions weather permitting. I used to fill the car with Esso disel, one week i changed to Topaz, i noticed that i got nearly a 100km more from the topaz fill, so i filled with esso again and again got less milage from the tank. filled with topaz again and i was nealy a 100km up on the last esso fill. its 1cent more but its well worth it. topaz it is.

Did you stop at any of the Grottos along the way and did Mother Mary speak to you too?
Since TOPAZ only claim an extra 24KM in a tank you are either deluding yourself or a troll.

EPM

Eleganza wrote: »

Did you stop at any of the Grottos along the way and did Mother Mary speak to you too?
Since TOPAZ only claim an extra 24KM in a tank you are either deluding yourself or a troll.

FFS.

You can get your point across without being nasty about it. I suggest in future you take that route.

Eleganza

You can get your point across without bold lettering.
Having made a successful complaint about the advertising to ASAI and seeing their half-arsed and untimely attempt to censure TOPAZ I'm annoyed that fools fall for cynical misleading advertising.

Eleganza

Ooops, an infraction.
Kinda like what Topaz got from ASAI. They made good milage out of the claims for as long as they could before getting their wrist slapped.

Bruthal

endamurtagh wrote: »

I drive between galway and sligo reguraly. same road nearly the same road conditions weather permitting. I used to fill the car with Esso disel, one week i changed to Topaz, i noticed that i got nearly a 100km more from the topaz fill, so i filled with esso again and again got less milage from the tank. filled with topaz again and i was nealy a 100km up on the last esso fill. its 1cent more but its well worth it. topaz it is.

Maybe you meant 100 meters, and not KM`s?

Daegerty

If someone who ran a topaz, or even someone fairly high up in the management spotted this thread would it be worth it for them to get their kids to make a few accounts on here, post some random stuff, post in this thread praising Topaz then leave?

robbie_998

Daegerty wrote: »

If someone who ran a topaz, or even someone fairly high up in the management spotted this thread would it be worth it for them to get their kids to make a few accounts on here, post some random stuff, post in this thread praising Topaz then leave?

would it make a difference ?

texaco seems to be the cheapest and safest yet again in clondalkin... and i believe malahide is dirt cheap petrol for texaco too ? anyone ?

Bruthal

robbie_998 wrote: »

would it make a difference ?

texaco seems to be the cheapest and safest yet again in clondalkin... and i believe malahide is dirt cheap petrol for texaco too ? anyone ?

Whats dirt cheap, below a euro a litre?

-Chris-

Daegerty wrote: »

If someone who ran a topaz, or even someone fairly high up in the management spotted this thread would it be worth it for them to get their kids to make a few accounts on here, post some random stuff, post in this thread praising Topaz then leave?

If you spot something like that, please report the post. If we spot something like that, the posters will be banned.

Shilling and other dishonest, manipulative bullsh1t isn't tolerated here.

robbie_998

robbie7730 wrote: »

Whats dirt cheap, below a euro a litre?

the last i heard it was about 1.47.8 in malahide compared to everywhere else with 1.50.9

and lets not forget our friend techron !

Bruthal

I cant see 1.47 being dirt cheap though compared to 1.50

Voodoomelon

I don't use my local Topaz because of prepay pumps. What a load of sh1te. Maxol all the way.

Daegerty

Voodoomelon wrote: »

I don't use my local Topaz because of prepay pumps. What a load of sh1te. Maxol all the way.

Pure american thing. I refuse to go to any place with prepaid pumps even if it's the local bleeding heart.