WH40k: Space Marine

Overheal

Pre-Order is up on Steam: Get a free copy of Darksiders and $5 off SM. Plus the Blood Ravens Chapter Pack

It's about time they tried the Shooter genre again. Firewarrior still managed to be very fun and atmospheric despite being technically challenged. Though I'm glad they let the idea bake for as long as they have, because between the other work THQ has done previously, this could be a blast. Looks like Darksiders with Guns.

The plot seems to revolve around the Marines being sent in to defend a Forge World, a place where Titans are constructed. Titans are - simply massive. The biggest ground-based war machines you're ever likely to see. And the Orks want them, of course, so they can tear some **** up. Hilarity ensues.

Developers have already said little to no cover will be used in the game: Space Marines are armored, tough sons of bitches that are supposed to be charging into battle and kicking ass, not huddling behind a conveniently misadventured rock. Close Combat will be integral.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHKIFDjk9I

http://store.steampowered.com/app/55150/?snr=1_5_video__13










Coming September

Artur Foden

Pre ordered on steam. looks the business

Overheal

As did I. It helped I had already had Darksiders on my to-do list.

Kiith

Been following this for a while. Looks excellent. Hopefully, we'll get to drive a Titan as well

Spear

For PSN and XBLA users there's the mini game Kill Team for $10, which gives an unlock of a power sword in Space Marine once completed.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6316720/warhammer-40k-kill-team-deploying-onto-xbla-psn

Gunmonkey

Looking forward to this, hope it isnt as much mindless shooting and hacking that the vids make it look. Also worrying that there has still been no info on the MP mode apart from the Kill Team power sword unlock being used in MP, hope they dont make it too bland and have some form of Co-op Survival mode.

Kill Team looks so "meh" to me, really sick of twin-stick shooters. Sooner someone makes Chaos Gate 2, the better.

Sarky

While I'm glad they're not still trying to sell the Blood Ravens, seriously? Ultramarines? The faggiest of all the chapters?

Nevertheless, it looks interesting. I'm certainly happy that any cover is for enemies to hide behind and the player to smash through. I'm hoping they don't do the horribly clichéd "The Orks were just pawns in a greater scheme" and use it as an excuse to shoehorn every other bloody race in there. But from what I read, they're doing exactly that.

Definitely keeping an eye on it. Cautiously optimistic.

Lordhogo

Sarky wrote: »

While I'm glad they're not still trying to sell the Blood Ravens, seriously? Ultramarines? The faggiest of all the chapters?

Nevertheless, it looks interesting. I'm certainly happy that any cover is for enemies to hide behind and the player to smash through. I'm hoping they don't do the horribly clichéd "The Orks were just pawns in a greater scheme" and use it as an excuse to shoehorn every other bloody race in there. But from what I read, they're doing exactly that.

Definitely keeping an eye on it. Cautiously optimistic.

Sounds like it as chaos space marines are also confirmed to appear so nothing new to expect from the story I guess.

Overheal

Thats down to the fact that the WH40k Universe as a whole is largely infantile outside of the Hobby world. Most people especially outside of Europe have never even heard of Warhammer but they might have played Dawn of War. The Ultramarine and Chaos Lore is old, but new again, when told in a video game. That and the Ultramarine paint scheme is one of the strongest brands in the entire franchise.

Stercus Accidit

If it is successful it can pave the way for more in depth stuff in future. I enjoy the warhammer canon, I'm not big into the table top stuff or the previous games, but have read the wikia for the warhammer universe and enjoyed it. That level of depth and creativity is enjoyable in and of itself, but I do know it is a franchise that has struggled to gain a gaming foothold, outside of DoW of course.
I enjoyed firewarrior, it was generic fps stuff but the warhammer universe did it for me, I would love to see modern fully explored game approaches and styles applied to this universe. Its the underdog I always want to see shine.

Artur Foden

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

If it is successful it can pave the way for more in depth stuff in future. I enjoy the warhammer canon, I'm not big into the table top stuff or the previous games, but have read the wikia for the warhammer universe and enjoyed it. That level of depth and creativity is enjoyable in and of itself, but I do know it is a franchise that has struggled to gain a gaming foothold, outside of DoW of course.

Definitely.


Here is a new interview that you might have seen before. But I think it's worth posting for the music alone

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2011-warhammer-40-000/714212

not much new info in there but he does slip at the end that the game will feature Coop. Lets hope that is accurate.

On a side note does anyone know if/where you can watch E3 live? particularly the THQ conference which i understand will have Space Marine as the flagship game, plus i wouldn't mind seeing any new info on Darksiders 2 if there is any

Gunmonkey

Stercus Accidit wrote: »

If it is successful it can pave the way for more in depth stuff in future. I enjoy the warhammer canon, I'm not big into the table top stuff or the previous games, but have read the wikia for the warhammer universe and enjoyed it. That level of depth and creativity is enjoyable in and of itself, but I do know it is a franchise that has struggled to gain a gaming foothold, outside of DoW of course.
I enjoyed firewarrior, it was generic fps stuff but the warhammer universe did it for me, I would love to see modern fully explored game approaches and styles applied to this universe. Its the underdog I always want to see shine.

Im right onboard with you in wanting some 40K games with a bit more depth, theres more character and setting in 40K than a large amount of RPG games released over the years. Problem is most devs seem to focus on the aspect of 40K that GW markets most to its core audience (teenage boys): the "PEW PEW PEW Spesh Mehrins are uber and killz all de Orkzz PEW PEW PEW".

Would love to see a AvP style game (multiple game styles and stories intertwining in one game) following several different Imperial units in a planet wide conflict, or an Deus Ex/ Fallout style Inquisition game where talking and investigations work as well as bullets. Or a Mass Effect style game following a Deathwatch squad persuing Xenos traders across a sector.

Can only hope that the increased presence Space Marine and Dark Millenium give can progress into some more detailed games.

Overheal

New Trailer:

http://store.steampowered.com/video/55150/80993/

Shiminay

I've been playing Kill Team which is quite a lot of fun (doubly so in co-op). And of course, I will now have access to a shiny Power Sword when Space Marine comes out.

Bitterly disappointed that I couldn't have a custom chapter as I could in DoW - I really wanted to be Angry Marines Also, does anyone else find it weird or annoying that orks have red blood? I somehow expected it to be green or maybe even black...

Sarky

Orks have had red blood for almost as long as I've been following WH40K. I seem to remember seeing a few pieces of art back in the 2nd or 3rd ed. rulebooks that had green blood.

Maybe Games Workshop wanted red blood to make it look gorier? They're not exactly the most mature bunch.

also there's a video knocking about with the Space Marine multiplayer character customisation jobby. Looks very detailed, with some lovely old power armour editions. Shame there's a limited selection of colours. Maybe they think console owners would be confused and enraged by a simple colour wheel or RGB sliders?

Shiminay

Here's something that really pisses me off:

Speshul Edishun:


On PC: 67.45 *
On XBox: 91.95 *

WHAT THE FUP?

* source: zavvi.com

I can't wrap my head around this discrepancy. Ordinarily, I'd be getting the game on PC, but I know the people I'm gonna want to play this with will be getting it on XBox because they are heretics and like to spend their money on things like food and rent and not graphics cards and processors. This is ball baggery of the highest order.

Notorious

The special edition is slated to cost about €100 in retail stores. It's something I'd absolutely love to pick up, but not for that price.

Notorioux

really wanna get it, but because of gears of war and dead island on the same month ill give it a pass...

Overheal

Shame I preordered on Steam months ago. But, I did get Darksiders. So can't complain.

I'm glad I did preorder too, because I knew somehow I would be poor right around now.

madrab

Latest trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/blockbuster-entertainment-warhammer-40-000/718861

wow, really looking cool

Overheal

madrab wrote: »

Latest trailer

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/blockbuster-entertainment-warhammer-40-000/718861

wow, really looking cool

That was actually really promising, and exciting.

And then Gamestop butts in at the end with their BS preorder deal on Skins

Sarky

Am I going crazy or is there a demo up on Steam?

<downloads>

Edit: Never mind, it's only for pre-orders. Kinda defeats the purpose of a demo if you only make it available to people who've already bought the full game...

Gunmonkey

Yeah, its out for us "norms" this time next week. Must be for people who cant wait to play it.

Overheal

Sarky wrote: »

Am I going crazy or is there a demo up on Steam?

<downloads>

Edit: Never mind, it's only for pre-orders. Kinda defeats the purpose of a demo if you only make it available to people who've already bought the full game...

Ugh don't tell me that. I...... i have been to ****ing busy lately. but that sounds fun. downloading it.

obligatory: Eat it bitches! \o/ lightning review tomorrow night.

Mantel

Sarky wrote: »

Am I going crazy or is there a demo up on Steam?

<downloads>

Edit: Never mind, it's only for pre-orders. Kinda defeats the purpose of a demo if you only make it available to people who've already bought the full game...

Demo for

Pre-orders - Avaiable on the 18th
Members of the Honour Guard - 22nd
Everyone - 23rd

You can sign up the Honour Guard community thing on www.spacemarine.com , if I had the time to play I'd have gone for a pre-order, just going to wait to see if it plays as well as those videos look.

Gunmonkey

Well heard positive things from people who have played the demo, combat is meant to be very satisfying, audio and visuals are good, not a casual walk of a game but no Ninja Gaiden either.

Have to wonder if the constant attacking will get repetitive though? Might be fun for 2 levels in a demo but how about 10 or so hours for the full game?

Dave_The_Sheep

Gunmonkey wrote: »

Have to wonder if the constant attacking will get repetitive though? Might be fun for 2 levels in a demo but how about 10 or so hours for the full game?

Hopefully there'll be different types of enemies that require different combat styles, tactics, etc to offset the repetitive nature of it.

Orks, Weirdboyz, Nobs, Chaos Marine, Bloodletters, etc...

Overheal

On combat: if it's anything like darksiders there will be loads of variety in it, so during a run of gameplay there shouldn't be much feeling of repetitiveness. And based on some of the trailers there will be a wide variety of encounters.

havent played it yet, going to work, back at 9 gmt or so.

Angron

I'm playing it now, I love it. I can't wait for the full game to come out so I can Thunderhammer some Orks

Overheal

Hmm, I didn't like it on the 360 pad. Just want to be able to turn a lot.

Nobs are a pain in the ass. Flying is kinda awkward. But the shooting and slashing is satisfying.

Sarky

Overheal wrote: »

Nobs are a pain in the ass.

<snigger>

Shiminay

I just played the demo - HOT DIGGIDY THAT WAS FUN!

Can't wait to get the full game. The transitions from shooting into slashing are damn near flawless. Bolters feel and sound like I always thought they should, special attacks to regain health is a mechanic I've loved since playing the first AvP and the Alien had to bite someone's head off to heal, so MOAR PLZ!

It just galls me that I have to be a fecking Ultramarine, I really hate those dweebs.

[edit]
In a fine piece of news, it seems that the majority of my friends are actually getting this on PC, so I shall have my slightly more expensive, but not ridiculously so Speshul Edishun

Sarky

I eagerly await the mod that lets you play through as an Angry Marine. Lord knows most of the online players will be dressed as one anyway...


Only today I noticed the shrine near the end of the Inquisitor level in the demo. There's a power axe inside. Happy days!

The combat fits together nicely. It feels just glorious to slam to the ground with your jetpack, sending Orks flying, slicing through a few more with that great big chainsword, emptying a bolter clip into anyone smart enough not to come within range of it. Then charge straight into the next mob! \o/

Shiminay

I just played with my XBox pad as opposed to Mouse + Keyboard cause it didn't remember my key config from my first run through. XBox pad feels a lot more natural and for some reason more fun. Also spotted the Power Axe you mentioned too Sarky, yea, that was a whole lot of slash slash slash

I can see myself playing an awful lot of this game

Sarky

I'm still undecided about control schemes. I love the precision you get aiming with the mouse (you can't help but feel awesome with headshotting a few orks with the bolt pistol while taking a rest from hackeyslashy), but the game really is mostly about the close combat, and the joypad might just edge it out there. Meh, the important thing is that it looks great and it feels like being a walking-tank, unstoppable Angel of freaking Death. As long as they can keep the combat from getting stale it looks like it'll be really quite excellent.

Robby91

Flying is kinda awkward.

I thought jump pack control seemed rather easy to work with (at least, on PC) - it's less than ideal for the jump pack to have its own specific target angle for the charge but it shouldn't prove to be a problem

The executions are great (especially the Nob execution where you

rip their head apart from the jaw

, and punching Grotz in the face just makes me smile ), I just hope that some of the graphical glitches with the execution animations are resolved, such as your execution target clipping through a wall while you create a shower of blood from stepping on concrete >_>

Overheal

Im sure controls feel awkward for the same reason Darksiders did at first: they're throwing a bunch of mechanics at you at once. I'm sure when you get into the game and you get introduced to them one by one it will occur a lot more fluidly.

Dave_The_Sheep

Shiminay wrote: »

It just galls me that I have to be a fecking Ultramarine, I really hate those dweebs.

Since you're getting the PC version, I'm sure there'll be a mod/skin pack out in no time that'll change them to whatever you want!

Twilightning

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

Since you're getting the PC version, I'm sure there'll be a mod/skin pack out in no time that'll change them to whatever you want!

People have already been modding the demo to play as different chapters. I've definitely seen the Angry Marines and the Imperial Fists.

Jelle1880

The multiplayer luckily has a large amount of customization options for the chapters, with pretty much all the major chapters represented on both SM and CM side.

Can't wait to deck out my Space Wolf.

Shiminay

Ordinarily, I'd say that was all good, except I see them selling DLC reskin & model packs for DoW2 for €6 on Steam and I'm damned if I'm paying that much for it!

Ultimately though, I just wanna carve my way through thousands of Orkses FOR THE EMPRAH!

johnny_ultimate

Played the demo on 360 and quite enjoyed it. Disposable, but competently disposable. Everything has impact and bite. Alas, the melee sometimes feels awkward and imprecise. But overall like Gears of War with a higher body count and jetpacks.

One thing I did laugh at was the awfulness of the 40K fiction. Been a longtime since I've played the tabletop game, but man the writing is naff. The Manafacturioum? That's almost as bad as Unobtainium!

penev10

Demo was good fun, nice mix between the shooting and hacking. Can't help but feel the close combat will be become very repetitive. Sure they'll probably add more weapons as you progress (powerfist would be nice ) but I can't see it adding much variety.

Is it only orks you get to fight? Are there any vehicle sections? Vehicle sections are normally the worst parts in shooters but the 40k universe isn't the same without them.

Shiminay

Meh, it's a form of pig-latin that they use for all their naming of things in the Imperium (;)) You have the Administratum, Scholastica Progenium, etc. It's consistent within the universe.

Their writing and fiction is something they've paid a huge amount of attention to in recent years too and have gotten a lot of solid authors on to expand their universe. There are 15 Books on the Horus Heresy now which I'm really looking forward to reading. The fiction is the only thing that really keeps me interested in Games Workshop, playing the games and collecting models is so ridiculously expensive that I don't know what kind of crack they're smoking in Nottingham when they come up with the pricing structure for things.

Kiith

penev10 wrote: »

Is it only orks you get to fight? Are there any vehicle sections?

Spoilered in case anyone else doesn't want to know.

No, and i'm pretty sure yes.

Mantel

penev10 wrote: »

Is it only orks you get to fight? Are there any vehicle sections? Vehicle sections are normally the worst parts in shooters but the 40k universe isn't the same without them.

The Orks are main enemy for the first half of the game, the later trailers for the game have shown the others you get to fight but if you have been avoid trailers for plot spoilers then keep staying away from them

I think the only Vehicle section that has been shown involves a titan, that still counts as a vehicle right? Although you probably don't get to drive it.

johnny_ultimate

Shiminay wrote: »

Meh, it's a form of pig-latin that they use for all their naming of things in the Imperium (;)) You have the Administratum, Scholastica Progenium, etc. It's consistent within the universe.

Their writing and fiction is something they've paid a huge amount of attention to in recent years too and have gotten a lot of solid authors on to expand their universe. There are 15 Books on the Horus Heresy now which I'm really looking forward to reading. The fiction is the only thing that really keeps me interested in Games Workshop, playing the games and collecting models is so ridiculously expensive that I don't know what kind of crack they're smoking in Nottingham when they come up with the pricing structure for things.

Even when I was collecting - over a decade ago at this point: scary! - they cost an absolute fortune. I remember an experience in the store on Liffey Street where they kept trying to tell me I couldn't buy a Blood Angels codex without a Space Marine one even though I frequently informed them my friend had the SM one. "But this is a new edition". Oh **** off, I thought. Even as a suggestible eleven year old I knew they were trying to take me for a monetary ride.

But my tolerance for po-faced fantasy and sci-fi fiction tends to be extremely low indeed: that's just a bias I've always had!

Lemming

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Even when I was collecting - over a decade ago at this point: scary! - they cost an absolute fortune. I remember an experience in the store on Liffey Street where they kept trying to tell me I couldn't buy a Blood Angels codex without a Space Marine one even though I frequently informed them my friend had the SM one. "But this is a new edition". Oh **** off, I thought. Even as a suggestible eleven year old I knew they were trying to take me for a monetary ride.

I have issues of White Dwarf going back into the double digit figures, with a few pages of citadel catalogue (anyone remember that?) mlistings for miniatures in the back. The price of a lead (almost all lead stuff at this point, bar 'RTB01' for anyone old enough to get that reference ... ) eldar striking scorpion was 26p

Oh the days! .... :pac:

Pyr0

Chaos seems to make an appearance in the later half of the game.

It's very underwhelming I must admit.

I'm not mad on the voice acting, the orks in particular do not sound "Orky" enough, yeah they'd use phrases commonly used by orks but they just sound too human.

The weapon sounds are very light too, I was expecting a heavy thud from the bolters but all I was greeted with was a normal "machine gun" sound, very disappointing.

I was expecting a more diverse combat system instead of just a *click click click * in the general direction you want to attack, maybe there's more to it that I just haven't noticed.

Zillah

Pyr0 wrote: »

The weapon sounds are very light too, I was expecting a heavy thud from the bolters but all I was greeted with was a normal "machine gun" sound, very disappointing.

You might want to get your speakers checked or something, because one of the first things I noticed was that the bolters had a wonderful heavy thudding sound rather than a boring normal gun sound.

I was expecting a more diverse combat system instead of just a *click click click * in the general direction you want to attack, maybe there's more to it that I just haven't noticed.

I agree with you here, I found the gameplay a little straight forward with the point and multi-click. The whole health/stun/rage thing makes it a little more diverse...but I also found it a little annoying and gimicky. It doesn't make sense even in the WH40k world that a Space Marine's health would be leaping from near death to perfectly fine a dozen times during a fight.

The assault pack demo was brilliant though, thought that was very well implemented.

Pyr0

Zillah wrote: »

You might want to get your speakers checked or something, because one of the first things I noticed was that the bolters had a wonderful heavy thudding sound rather than a boring normal gun sound.



I agree with you here, I found the gameplay a little straight forward with the point and multi-click. The whole health/stun/rage thing makes it a little more diverse...but I also found it a little annoying and gimicky. It doesn't make sense even in the WH40k world that a Space Marine's health would be leaping from near death to perfectly fine a dozen times during a fight.

The assault pack demo was brilliant though, thought that was very well implemented.

I'll have to check that out so, I did have weird issues with the sound alright. Might need to update my drivers.