Al-Jazeera footage captures 'British troops on the ground' in Libya

tiger55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYoCVNjZh8

tiger55

[quote=Micky Dolenz]Closed over derailment, feel free to start a new thread on same subject.[/quote]

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72507973&postcount=28

Ok will do

Fratton Fred

How did they capture them and are they asking for a ransom?

tiger55

It all started with this silly no fly zone, now its to get rid of Gaddafi, and replace him with some puppet.

I know one thing, this was is nothing to do with protecting civilians.

tiger55

Fratton Fred wrote: »

How did they capture them and are they asking for a ransom?

Did you even bother to watch the 17 sec video? Or better still read the thread title?

Nodin

tiger55 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJYoCVNjZh8

And..........?

sensibleken

I cant listen to the sound. how do they know their british?

Fratton Fred

Would this be the same Gadafi that bombed a US airliner and sent four boatloads of arms to the IRA (can you imagine the extra bloodshed this island would have seen if three of them hadn't been stopped)

Why on earth would NATO want rid of him I wonder.

tiger55

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Would this be the same Gadafi that bombed a US airliner and sent four boatloads of arms to the IRA (can you imagine the extra bloodshed this island would have seen if three of them hadn't been stopped)

Why on earth would NATO want rid of him I wonder.

He was their friend for the last 5 years.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YFuHfHmYu-k/TXID4G84WkI/AAAAAAAAAKA/Z1MXaGxTZRc/s1600/gaddafi-blair.jpg

mgmt

Yeah whats the point of the thread. There was major announcements last month that Britain, France and others sent in officers to coordinate the rebels.

tiger55

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yn5zmstYGU

tiger55

Nodin wrote: »

And..........?

Wait till they turn their guns on civilians in Europe...

Fratton Fred

tiger55 wrote: »

He was their friend for the last 5 years.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YFuHfHmYu-k/TXID4G84WkI/AAAAAAAAAKA/Z1MXaGxTZRc/s1600/gaddafi-blair.jpg

No he wasn't, it was just a case of keeping him close. The rebellion presented a rather nice opportunity to get rid of him though.

If you want to get all high and mighty then why not ask why the UN is not doing the same in Syria.

Bucklesman

Those fellows could just as easily be mercenaries as SAS. Actually, scratch that, I'm fairly certain they're private military contractors.

LighterGuy

Bucklesman wrote: »

Those fellows could just as easily be mercenaries as SAS. Actually, scratch that, I'm fairly certain they're private military contractors.

PMC's huh?
Possible alright.

Fukuyama

I'm sorry but this mission is different to Iraq and A'stan.

NATO are slowly going in and it's not to protect their own skin.

Unfortunately, because the US is on board (I'm not a fan of theirs I'll say) this mission will be chucked in the same category as Iraq.

sensibleken

The whole Libya thing is rediculous anyway. The mandate was to protect civilians. The only way I can see that is a quick and decissive victory for either the rebels or for Gadaffi.

A half assed no-fly zone and attack on heavy armour only enforces a state of stalemate, prolongs the conflict and leads to a long term threat to civilians.

Fukuyama

sensibleken wrote: »

The whole Libya thing is rediculous anyway. The mandate was to protect civilians. The only way I can see that is a quick and decissive victory for either the rebels or for Gadaffi.

A half assed no-fly zone and attack on heavy armour only enforces a state of stalemate, prolongs the conflict and leads to a long term threat to civilians.

They're ramping up the no-fly with attack helicopters. And it was never half-assed to begin with. The fact that Gadaffi is silencing journalists tells all really - he's a tyrant. I'm not saying the US or UK have clean hands either. But they're doing something good here.

And there's western boots on the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of deployment (maybe a para regiment) into Misrata soon.

charlemont

All these countries that NATO go into receive a big bill when the wars are finished. Im sure they want to destroy the system in Libya and leave these people impoverished like they done in Iraq,

sensibleken

Dean0088 wrote: »

They're ramping up the no-fly with attack helicopters. And it was never half-assed to begin with. The fact that Gadaffi is silencing journalists tells all really - he's a tyrant. I'm not saying the US or UK have clean hands either. But they're doing something good here.

And there's western boots on the ground. I wouldn't be surprised if there was some sort of deployment (maybe a para regiment) into Misrata soon.

Thats what I mean. They are only now, months later, talking about deploying ground troops. Starting off with just the no fly, then attacking armour, then this tip toeing in is only delaying everything and causing more harm to the civilian population.

The only way to do it is a quick victory one way or the other, although such an explicit and open war is politically difficult. As soon as Gadaffi said he would wipe out the poplulation of misrata they should have gone 'ok bud, game over now'

thebigbiffo

this thread had not rocked my world...

NEEEEEEXT.

Fratton Fred

charlemont wrote: »

All these countries that NATO go into receive a big bill when the wars are finished. Im sure they want to destroy the system in Libya and leave these people impoverished like they done in Iraq,

NATO didn't go into Iraq, not the second time anyway.

The US has spent billions rebuilding Iraq and is doing the same in Afghanistan.

tiger55

sensibleken wrote: »

The whole Libya thing is rediculous anyway. The mandate was to protect civilians. The only way I can see that is a quick and decissive victory for either the rebels or for Gadaffi.

A half assed no-fly zone and attack on heavy armour only enforces a state of stalemate, prolongs the conflict and leads to a long term threat to civilians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XhBeZsiFUE

US dropped cluster bombs on Misratah

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182310.html

http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/05/25/the-cluster-bombing-of-misrata-the-case-against-the-usa/

wow this does surprise me, america attack civilians then try to frame Gaddafi.:rolleyes:

sensibleken

Fratton Fred wrote: »

NATO didn't go into Iraq, not the second time anyway.

The US has spent billions rebuilding Iraq and is doing the same in Afghanistan.

In fairness its the least they could fúcking do having blown it up in the first place

Fratton Fred

tiger55 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XhBeZsiFUE

US dropped cluster bombs on Misratah

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182310.html

http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/05/25/the-cluster-bombing-of-misrata-the-case-against-the-usa/

wow this does surprise me, america attack civilians then try to frame Gaddafi.:rolleyes:

Are you expecting these links to get a better reception here than they did in Politics?

tiger55

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Are you expecting these links to get a better reception here than they did in Politics?

go away idiot

do you work for cas sunstein by any chance?

Nodin

tiger55 wrote: »

Wait till they turn their guns on civilians in Europe...

Could you try to be a bit more coherent?

Dyr

tiger55 wrote: »

Wait till they turn their guns on civilians in Europe...

They wouldnt have the range if they're in Libya

mgmt

tiger55 wrote: »

[snip]

US dropped cluster bombs on Misratah

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/182310.html

http://humanrightsinvestigations.org/2011/05/25/the-cluster-bombing-of-misrata-the-case-against-the-usa/

wow this does surprise me, america attack civilians then try to frame Gaddafi.:rolleyes:

LOL

Did you even read the links or just the headlines?

Fratton Fred

tiger55 wrote: »

go away idiot

do you work for cas sunstein by any chance?

Look, here's how it works.

poster puts up a whacko OP and everyone blatantly ignores it by changing the subject. You got Smileys, I believe fish is the usual route.

Put the same OP up again, people are just going to rip the piss out of it. No need to get upset about it, that's just the way after hours roles......Dude.

mike65

Wordpress blog plus Tehran TV = truth dontchaknow

Nodin

mike65 wrote: »

Wordpress blog plus Tehran TV = truth dontchaknow

I was so convinced my bowels opened unexpectedly.

Still no idea what the signficance is supposed to be though. I've made preparations in the event the revelation has a similar effect, however.

Fratton Fred

Nodin wrote: »

I was so convinced my bowels opened unexpectedly.

Still no idea what the signficance is supposed to be though. I've made preparations in the event the revelation has a similar effect, however.

Blasting it with pish would have been sufficient tbh.

tiger55

mike65 wrote: »

Wordpress blog plus Tehran TV = truth dontchaknow

Our media lies to us you know:eek:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BupuVyx12Ao

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVE8rV3-Zos

Nodin

tiger55 wrote: »

Our media lies to us you know:eek:

I was unaware that meant other media was automatically telling the truth. You still haven't explained the significance of your op.

UglyBolloxFace

Al-Jazeera footage captures 'British troops on the ground' in Libya

Anytime I hear the phrase "on the ground", Joan Burton's big face pops into my mind.

mgmt

tiger55 wrote: »

Our media lies to us you know:eek:

So you get your news from anonymous blogs, anti-semites, and Iranian TV. Great.

Overheal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMwhl4IrPNc

CokeyBear

Technically they've been on the ground for months considering Special Forces members are training Rebels.

Manic Moran

My first response to the OP is "So?"

My second thought is that one of the guys has a very large camera. If they're not military, they could also be a security detail for a journalist.

NTM

Einhard

tiger55 wrote: »

I know one thing, this was is nothing to do with protecting civilians.

Well you don't know much then.

nacho libre

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/31/world/africa/31guinea.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&ref=world

WoollyRedHat

Are the Al Jazeerans looking for ransom from the British or what?

Quiet you

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Are the Al Jazeerans looking for ransom from the British or what?

I heard they're looking for several magic beans.

partyatmygaff

mgmt wrote: »

So you get your news from anonymous blogs, anti-semites, and Iranian TV. Great.

They're "alternative" therefore honest.

Good logic as always by the tin foil hat brigade.

WoollyRedHat

Quiet you wrote: »

I heard they're looking for several magic beans.

They should just give it to them tbh, even if they're not magic.. keep em happpy.

Heckler

So what if british troops are on the ground ? Why is anybody surprised ? It was announced a while ago that british forces were there advising the rebels.