Copa America 2011 Betting!

seathestar

Anyone got any thoughts on these tournaments? Was looking at doing a double or an accum over a few things durin the summer to keep things interesting!

I see Brazil and Argentina are top of the betting, wonder what sort of squads both will be bringing with them? Im interested to see how Neymar gets on for Brazil, could have a good tournament if getting the games.

However i dont know if Messi is goin to be in the squad, Argentina could be hard to stop with them being the host nation and his brilliance!

Yardie

Argentina Squad here- Tevez and Aguero back in-

http://theboludo.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/internationality/

Goalkeepers

Sergio Romero

Juan Pablo Carrizo

Mariano Andujar

Defenders

Gabriel Milito

Ezequiel Garay

Nicolás Burdisso

Nicolás Pareja

Javier Zanetti

Pablo Zabaleta

Marcos Rojo

Luciano Monzon

Midfielders

Javier Mascherano

Lucas Biglia

Ever Banega

Esteban Cambiasso

Javier Pastore

Diego Valeri

Enzo Pérez

Fernando Gago

Forwards
Lionel Messi

Angel Di María

Gonzalo Higuaín

Sergio Agüero

Ezequiel Lavezzi

Carlos Tevez

Diego Milito

DB10

Just seen the likely Spain squad for the 21s, I have **** all money but awfully tempted to lump 150 on them. 2-1 with Boyles and 2.5 with Bwin online.

Goalkeepers: De Gea (Atlético), Rubén Miño (Barcelona), Diego Mariño (Villarreal)

Defenders: San Jose (Athletic), Botía (Sporting), José Angel (Sporting), Dídac Vilà (Milan), Azpilicueta (Marseille), Domínguez (Atlético), Victor Ruiz (Napoli), Montoya (Barcelona)

Midfielders: Thiago (Barcelona), Rubén Pérez (Deportivo), Diego Capel (Sevilla), Javi Martínez (Athletic), , Parejo (Getafe), Mata (Valencia), Ander Herrera (Athletic)

Forwards: Muniain (Athletic), Adrián (Deportivo), Jeffren (Barcelona), Emilio Nsue (Mallorca), Bojan (Barcelona)

Thats as good as its going to get really . I just cant see past them, theres only like 8 teams as well.

Opinions?

Cill Dara Abu

Yardie wrote: »

Argentina Squad here- Tevez and Aguero back in-

http://theboludo.wordpress.com/2011/06/01/internationality/

Goalkeepers

Sergio Romero

Juan Pablo Carrizo

Mariano Andujar

Defenders

Gabriel Milito

Ezequiel Garay

Nicolás Burdisso

Nicolás Pareja

Javier Zanetti

Pablo Zabaleta

Marcos Rojo

Luciano Monzon

Midfielders

Javier Mascherano

Lucas Biglia

Ever Banega

Esteban Cambiasso

Javier Pastore

Diego Valeri

Enzo Pérez

Fernando Gago

Forwards
Lionel Messi

Angel Di María

Gonzalo Higuaín

Sergio Agüero

Ezequiel Lavezzi

Carlos Tevez

Diego Milito

:eek: They have some great strikers

seathestar

Brazils squad:

GK: Julio Cesar (Inter), Víctor (Gremio), Jefferson (Botafogo), Fabio (Cruzeiro)

DF: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Inter), Andre Santos (Fenerbahçe), Adriano (Barcelona), Lucio (Inter), Thiago Silva (Milan), Luisao (Benfica), David Luiz (Chelsea)

MF: Lucas Leiva (Liverpool), Sandro (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Elías (Atl Madrid), Henrique (Cruzeiro), Anderson (Man Utd), Elano (Santos), Jadson (Shaktar Donetsk), Thiago Neves (Flamengo), Lucas (San Pablo)

FW: Robinho (Milan), Nilmar (Villarreal), Alexandre Pato (Milan), Fred (Fluminense), Neymar (Santos), Leandro Damiao (Internacional)

ValueSeeker

Waiting for Top scorer odds on the EU 21's. Any firms offering odds yet? Bojan Huge fav in my book but will be looking at the outsiders as usual.

Dolph Starbeam

ValueSeeker wrote: »

Waiting for Top scorer odds on the EU 21's. Any firms offering odds yet? Bojan Huge fav in my book but will be looking at the outsiders as usual.

Connor Wickham I reckon should get a good few too.

Juan Mata seems to score a lot of goals for Valencia so he could be a good outside bet.

Yardie

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

:eek: They have some great strikers

strike force worth half a billion or so!

Yardie

Mark! wrote: »

Connor Wickham I reckon should get a good few too.

Juan Mata seems to score a lot of goals for Valencia so he could be a good outside bet.

Don't think Wickham will start. Sturridge will be main man for England. Fancy Czech Republic as darkhorses and Pekhart is a goal machine at this level so if they are to to go far then Pekkhart will be definitely be in with the mix for top scorer.

Iceland at 11/1 e/w could be the bet of the tournament.

Nuri Sahin

I'll be backing Uruguay as the odds are still fairly decent, @ 10/1 (PP). The starting XI can compete with Argentina and most certainly can do so with Brazil. Brazil while the better team vs Holland and Romania over the past few days, still do not convince me. Their performances haven't been overly impressive for a long while now.

Going back to Uruguay for a sec. Just look at the squad. Strong and in depth. Defensively very solid and when you have attackers like Suarez, Forlan and Cavani.. there's goals galore. Quadruple winner this past season for Porto, Alvaro Pereria in midfield will offer a lot of pace and attacking quality down the left wing. Youngster Lodeiro who I expect big things to come from him for Ajax this coming season. Perez who was so mightily impressive in the destroyer role in South Africa will provide protection to the defence and get forward too. Then there's the GK and defence. Muslera (GK) had a few dodgy performances in the knockout rounds of the WC last year but he's a talented GK going, those who've watched any Lazio games will tell you how important he is.The defence consists of players like Maxi Periera, Godin, Caceres, Lugano and Victiorino. Talent and experienced nuff said. I rate the defence as much as the attack and that's saying something. Both are fantastic.

I need to read over the permutations but I think 10/1 E/W is well worth taking up.

Re: Paraguay, I'll be backing unders every single game for them. My first time watching them since the WC last night. Nothing has changed and the same mistakes are still being made in getting the best out of certain players as well as playing the certain players over far more talented ones.

Fowler87

El LoCo Ade wrote: »

I'll be backing Uruguay as the odds are still fairly decent, @ 10/1 (PP). The starting XI can compete with Argentina and most certainly can do so with Brazil. Brazil while the better team vs Holland and Romania over the past few days, still do not convince me. Their performances haven't been overly impressive for a long while now.

Going back to Uruguay for a sec. Just look at the squad. Strong and in depth. Defensively very solid and when you have attackers like Suarez, Forlan and Cavani.. there's goals galore. Quadruple winner this past season for Porto Alvaro Pereria in midfield with offer a lot of pace and attacking quality down the left wing. Youngster Lodeiro who I expect things to come from for Ajax this coming season. Perez who was so mightily impressive in the destroyer role in South Africa will provide protection to the defence and get forward too. Then there's the GK and defence. Muslera (GK) had a few dodgy performances in the knockout rounds of the WC last year but he's a talented GK going, those who've watched any Lazio games will tell you how important he is.The defence consists of players like Maxi Periera, Godin, Caceres, Lugano and Victiorino. Talent and experienced nuff said. I rate the defence as much as the attack and that's saying something. Both are fantastic.

I need to read over the permutations but I think 10/1 E/W is well worth taking up.

Re: Paraguay, I'll be backing unders every single game for them. My first time watching them since the WC last night. Nothing has changed and the same mistakes are still being made in getting the best out of certain players as well as playing the certain players over far more talented ones.

DONT PLACE IT ON PP ADE!! Bet365 have them at 12/1 to win it while halving the odds (6/1) for a place.

I know I said I wouldnt have a bet until the new season but cant resist putting 10 e/w on them. Like you said, the quality of Uruguay squad going into the tournament is impressive. Only Argentina' front three IMO are better..

Will also give me bit of interest over the next few weeks and of course they do have the future World player of the year in El Pisteloro:D

StewartJ

Cheers guys might but a few quid on Uruguay myself then;)

Yardie

Brazil squad for Copa America:

Goalkeepers Victor (Gremio), Julio Cesar (Inter)

Defenders: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Inter), Andre Santos (Fenerbahce), Adriano (Barcelona), Lucio (Inter), Thiago Silva (Milan), David Luiz (Chelsea) Luisao (Benfica)

Midfielders: Lucas Leiva (Liverpool), Ramires (Chelsea), Sandro (Tottenham), Jadson (Shakhtar Donetsk), Elias (Atletico Madrid), Elano (Santos), Paulo Henrique Ganso (Santos), Lucas Silva (Sao Paulo)

Forwards: Robinho (Milan), Alexandre Pato (Milan), Fred (Fluminense), Neymar (Santos)

Don't really fancy them to do much. Poor midfield (by Brazilian standards)IMO. Neymar has potential to be star of tournament though.

Dolph Starbeam

Is there any of the Euro u21 games on tv? I don't see todays games listed anywhere.

Nuri Sahin

Fowler87 wrote: »

DONT PLACE IT ON PP ADE!! Bet365 have them at 12/1 to win it while halving the odds (6/1) for a place.

I know I said I wouldnt have a bet until the new season but cant resist putting 10 e/w on them. Like you said, the quality of Uruguay squad going into the tournament is impressive. Only Argentina' front three IMO are better..

Will also give me bit of interest over the next few weeks and of course they do have the future World player of the year in El Pisteloro:D

Aye.


I like Luis for top goalscorer. Besides the obvious Argies, himself and Neymar are the two to go for. I'd like to say Falcao too but besides Guarin, Rodellga and the CB's Yepes and Zapata, Columbia will fall in the quarter finals. Their form is pretty poor too just to add.

Suarez is my pick for top goalscorer though.

fkiely

Mark! wrote: »

Is there any of the Euro u21 games on tv? I don't see todays games listed anywhere.

Don't start till tomorrow mate and they're all on sky.

The_Kew_Tour

I think Spain 3.1 on BF for are just too good to turn down.

Dolph Starbeam

fkiely wrote: »

Don't start till tomorrow mate and they're all on sky.

Ah your right, i thought it started today. Pity there not on Eurosport, the commentators are way better.

Derek!

Would Spain be everyones most likely outright winner?

Nuri Sahin

Been reading up on all things Euro u21's since yesterday evening.

If anyone is looking for a top goalscorer bet besides the more obvious names, it'd be worth looking at Pekhart @ 12/1 for the Czech Republic. The Czechs u21's are in fine form going into the Euros. Pekhart is seemingly always in the goals for them. Not much else to it. Kozak, his strike partner and also plays for Lazio is Jan Koller MKII might be someone else to consider but for me, Pekhart is the one to go for.

Icelandic forwards in Sigthorsson @ 33/1 who plays for AZ Alkmaar and has scored a decent haul for them especially considering Alkmaar as a whole are pretty average compared to the side of a few years ago is another I like.

If you're into facts and superstitions, 2 of the last top goalscorers in this comp have come from the home side. Bille Nielsen is @ 11/1 and is the main man for Denmark. Denmark's form is a mixed bag so be cautious.

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Personally speaking, I'll have wee bet on Sigthorsson because he's bound to score a couple in his group. I really fancy them to get out of their group. Group B is very hard to call. I think the Czechs will be difficult for both England and Spain, and potentially one of them could miss out on a semi final place. Czechs are organised, defensively solid and like to play the counter.

ValueSeeker

Derek! wrote: »

Would Spain be everyones most likely outright winner?

Their first 11 is a team that would challenge for a champions league spot in Spain.

Derek!

ValueSeeker wrote: »

Their first 11 is a team that would challenge for a champions league spot in Spain.

Thanks, would it be fair to say their good value at the moment then?

The_Kew_Tour

Derek! wrote: »

Would Spain be everyones most likely outright winner?

I backed them at 3.1 on BF they are now down to 2.96 I think they are excellent value even at shortish price.

Not saying they are going to win it, but they represent great value imo and thats all you can ask for.

Derek!

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I backed them at 3.1 on BF they are now down to 2.96 I think they are excellent value even at shortish price.

Not saying they are going to win it, but they represent great value imo and thats all you can ask for.

Thanks, I might back them then with a smallish stake.
If anything it will keep me away from backin the other football I know nothin about

The_Kew_Tour

Derek! wrote: »

Thanks, I might back them then with a smallish stake.
If anything it will keep me away from backin the other football I know nothin about

I threw on 10e myself its just more interest myself, but do think they are a 11/8 or 6/4 shot imo just going on squad selection..

England, Czech Republic and Iceland are all dangerous but I think their prices are correct maybe England a bit on short side..

Just my 2 cents.

Derek!

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I threw on 10e myself its just more interest myself, but do think they are a 11/8 or 6/4 shot imo just going on squad selection..

England, Czech Republic and Iceland are all dangerous but I think their prices are correct maybe England a bit on short side..

Just my 2 cents.

Considerin what you mentioned about the Spain squad I think we will get a good run for our money at least.
I would be more than happy with a bit of entertainment for a small stake

The_Kew_Tour

Derek! wrote: »

Considerin what you mentioned about the Spain squad I think we will get a good run for our money at least.
I would be more than happy with a bit of entertainment for a small stake

Yes it would be total shock if they were to not do something in the competition.

fkiely

Derek! wrote: »

Would Spain be everyones most likely outright winner?

I actually quite fancy England at 4's and while they'll be my main bet I also like the look of Denmark at 8/1.

Nielson to be top scorer at 10/1 is another I like the look of.

In today's games I'm on Iceland at 6/5 and Denmark at 6/5 as well. Might put them in a double.

Nuri Sahin

fkiely wrote: »

I actually quite fancy England at 4's and while they'll be my main bet I also like the look of Denmark at 8/1.

Nielson to be top scorer at 10/1 is another I like the look of.

In today's games I'm on Iceland at 6/5 and Denmark at 6/5 as well. Might put them in a double.

The PP Powerplay is Denmark and Iceland if you have a PP A/C, tis @ 9/2.

I'll take this individually. Good sized bet on Iceland I had @ 6/5 last night, odds were dropping this morning. Probably go with a goalscorer bet in the later kick off.

fkiely

Cheers for the heads up mate, very much appreciated. 9/2 is a decent enough price.

Nuri Sahin

My little preview on both games today in the soccer forum for those interested, apolgises for my lack of knowledge re: Belarus namely.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=72706030#post72706030

I honestly don't think Switzerland will lose today but good luck to those with money on Denmark. Opening days of tournaments have never been all to kind to me in the past and Iceland I'm probably a bit too over confident in but they should really win their match today.

Yardie

Pekhart topscorer/Czech Republic to win the Championship @ 29.0 with Ladbrokes.

Czech's are 7/1 to win the tournament outright but if they are to win in they are going to have to rely on Pekhart for goals so 29s is value.

Bet for today:
Belarus vs Iceland Over 2.5 @ Evens

Nuri Sahin

Covered myself twice somewhat with 0.5. Some of their key players have the flu, wonder if the bookies knew this beforehand hence the odds.. no mention anywhere else though :rolleyes:

edit - ****ing wasters

Cill Dara Abu

2-0 to Belarus now, thank god i stayed away from that, always find U21 soccer to be a lottery

Nuri Sahin

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

2-0 to Belarus now, thank god i stayed away from that, always find U21 soccer to be a lottery

Normally very good to me. Though in fairness, I've always stuck with England and Spain. Serves me right really.

Headshot

That Sigthorsson fella couldnt score in a brothel :pac:

fkiely

Yesterday was a bit of a **** one.

Quite fancy a double of the Czechs and over 2.5 in the English Spanish game today at over 3/1

Oneywu

Put a fiver on Pekhart and Nielsen to be top goalscorers before yesterday's matches..wished I hadn't bothered, Denmark looked toothless.

Dolph Starbeam

5 on Spain to win both halves @6.50.

I really fancy this Spain team, I do think England's defence is there strongest part but this Spain team I reckon will do the business.

Also went with, as above, a treble of Spain, Czech Rep. and Corinthians.

fkiely

11/10 seems a decent price for over 2.5 in the Icelandic Swiss game later.

Derek!

fkiely wrote: »

11/10 seems a decent price for over 2.5 in the Icelandic Swiss game later.

I hope your right as I managed to bet on it in a double by mistake
The first part won, I meant to back overs in the Spain v England match

fkiely

Gone for England -1 at 2/1

Welbeck 19/10 to score anytime stands out for me

Warper

Spain look very good, seems all of Spain is playing the Barca way now.

bradlente

El Loco's little piece on the Copas definitely bringing me round to Uruguay.Hadn't really looked over the teams until I came across this thread today,They've a bit of value about them compared to the 2 big guns.

My investment in the U21s disappeared on the first day.Icelan' tho whah!?

Nuri Sahin

My Copa America preview for those interested

Still stand by my earlier comment in this thread re: Uruguay along with Paraguay and unders 2.5 goals. Costa Rica are sending an u21's squad and Mexico are sending an u23 squad that won't contain a lot if any of their senior squad.

The_Kew_Tour

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I think Spain 3.1 on BF for are just too good to turn down.

Was good weekend for me as I also had the 40/1 winner winner in golf yesterday (see golf thread for this week for proof:D)

Warper

seathestar wrote: »

Brazils squad:

GK: Julio Cesar (Inter), Víctor (Gremio), Jefferson (Botafogo), Fabio (Cruzeiro)

DF: Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Maicon (Inter), Andre Santos (Fenerbahçe), Adriano (Barcelona), Lucio (Inter), Thiago Silva (Milan), Luisao (Benfica), David Luiz (Chelsea)

MF: Lucas Leiva (Liverpool), Sandro (Tottenham), Ramires (Chelsea), Elías (Atl Madrid), Henrique (Cruzeiro), Anderson (Man Utd), Elano (Santos), Jadson (Shaktar Donetsk), Thiago Neves (Flamengo), Lucas (San Pablo)

FW: Robinho (Milan), Nilmar (Villarreal), Alexandre Pato (Milan), Fred (Fluminense), Neymar (Santos), Leandro Damiao (Internacional)

That midfield is very poor for a Brazil side but the defense looks the best in the comp. by far. To balance the midfield, they will prob play 3 of the forwards in Robinho, Neymar and Fred and may also push Alves up to RM allowing Maicon in at RB.

Is Kaka injured btw or just couldnt be arsed?

If Argentina get their tactics right, they should prob. win though though no value in the O/R that i can see. Brazil - Argie final looking ominous. Great game

Yardie

Chile 8/13 Paddy's (5/8 on betfair) ante-post against Mexico. This price will definitely come in before kick-off. Large stake on this.

Yardie

Over 2.5 in the Colombia/ Costa Rica game at 4/5 looks a steal on betfair too.

user2011

A little news for everyone

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/28062011/58/copa-rica-mexico-suspend-eight-players.html could be a few quid to be made off going against Mexico