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Actors who failed to reach their potential

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 697 ✭✭✭gent9662


    Sam Bell

    Moon


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭tony1kenobi


    godspal wrote: »
    Alec Baldwin hasn't had a memorable leading role since Beetlejuice.

    Does Alec Baldwin not win awards every year for 30 Rock?


  • Registered Users Posts: 836 ✭✭✭fruvai


    Does Alec Baldwin not win awards every year for 30 Rock?

    More than likely referring to his film career


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    A bit harsh to review actors based on their career before they died or retired. One from the past, Haya Harareet of Ben Hur fame, only made 7-8 films and really only Ben Hur was of note.

    haya%20harareet.jpg

    She must have been one of the few actresses of the 50s that had military service experience after serving two years in the Israeli Marines.


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Goose81 wrote: »
    I watched a time to kill recenty (great film) Mathew McConaughey puts in a great performance, its a pity he has been wasting his talents doing rom coms for most of his career.

    he's good in The Lincoln Lawyer but its retreading old paths playing lawyers again, how many has he played now? he was such a promising talent in the mid 90s with A Time To Kill and Contact then went into easy rom com fare, needs a proper meaty role.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 468 ✭✭godspal


    Does Alec Baldwin not win awards every year for 30 Rock?

    No I stick by what I said. In "30 Rock" he's part of an ensemble. The focus of the show does not revolve around Alec Baldwin, who is more than able to hold the screen on his own.

    As for acting career that never really reached the dizzying heights they should have Montgomery Clift comes to mind. A Car Accident, paralysed face, and poof he falls from grace hard, he would have been as big as Marlon Brando (figuratively :P).

    EDIT: All this talk of Matthew McConaughey, and yet no one talks about his break through performance in Dazed and Confused. :(


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    krudler wrote: »
    he's good in The Lincoln Lawyer but its retreading old paths playing lawyers again, how many has he played now? he was such a promising talent in the mid 90s with A Time To Kill and Contact then went into easy rom com fare, needs a proper meaty role.

    Just going to leave this here.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    godspal wrote: »
    EDIT: All this talk of Matthew McConaughey, and yet no one talks about his break through performance in Dazed and Confused. :(

    That was his break through but he hasn't really done anything of note in the last 10 years. Matt Damon fairly sums up McConaughey approach to his acting career with his impression of him:D



    That said McConaughey has one of the best southern drawls in the business if he can get some good scripts after his looks fade.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    CatInABox wrote: »

    Tom Sizemore
    1995: Heat
    1998: Saving Private Ryan
    2001: Pearl Harbour
    2001: Black Hawk Down

    Four movies anyone could be hugely proud of. Great shout - he should've been alot bigger. Super actor.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Kumejima wrote: »
    Stuart Townsend: Great charm in About Adam and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, but has walked off so many films that might have made him a star.

    To be fair he was sacked from Lord of the Rings for being too youthful looking.


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  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To be fair he was sacked from Lord of the Rings for being too youthful looking.

    the too youthful thins ig widely believed to be PR talk for he was a bit of a prat. Townsend has a very bad reputation, lots of people he has worked with will struggle to find a good thing to say about him. He's not a bad actor but much like Val Kilmer, once you start being a bully or a problem on set directors and actors will refuse to work with you and your career quickly comes to a halt.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,881 ✭✭✭WHIP IT!


    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Three... Pearl Harbour was globally panned ;)

    But I agree - Tom Sizemore, on form, really is a likeable/watchable actor.

    Actually you're right - I thought it was crap :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,965 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I'm watching Mars Attacks! and was surprised to see Christina Applegate in the credits. I didn't remember seeing her before, and she has only a tiny part as the girlfriend of Jack Black's gung-ho soldier. Not sure why. I've liked her ever since Married ... With Children, and she has shown some impressive comic talent on occasions, such as in Anchorman and The Sweetest Thing ... but she seems happier on TV. Oh well. :o

    About Tom Sizemore: his off-screen behaviour has been, we might say, problematic. A long-standing meth addiction, multiple arrests, time in jail and in rehab. But he's definitely working now, something like six films in production this year.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,871 ✭✭✭Corsendonk


    bnt wrote: »
    I'm watching Mars Attacks! and was surprised to see Christina Applegate in the credits. I didn't remember seeing her before, and she has only a tiny part as the girlfriend of Jack Black's gung-ho soldier. Not sure why. I've liked her ever since Married ... With Children, and she has shown some impressive comic talent on occasions, such as in Anchorman and The Sweetest Thing ... but she seems happier on TV. Oh well. :o

    .

    Brest cancer would have limited her recent film roles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 230 ✭✭Eleganza


    Palme d'Or winner, Irène Jacob.
    Made poor choices during the 90s and didn't work the system to keep good roles coming her way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 569 ✭✭✭CoolHat


    One could argue if the first 3 Batman's were the kiss of death to most careers involved.

    - Michael Keaton. Personally I think he is a good actor. But after Batman Returns. He just went down hill. Surely being Batman in two successful movies would of made you thought he would of done more.
    - Chris O'Donnell. Again, being Robin you think he would of gotten some decent run in other movies around the time. He never did. All I know him is Robin and being in The Bachelor (1999)
    - Val Kilmer. Yet again, just went down hill. The Saint (1997) flopped accordingly.
    - Alicia Silverstone. Clueless was massive. After Batman And Robin (1997), She did Excess Baggage and Blast from the Past. Then fell into TV work in 2000/2001.


    On the filp side tho, you have:

    - George Clooney. Being Batman certainly didn't effect him.
    - Jim Carrey. Went on to be more famous.
    - Tommy Lee Jones. Went on to do more successful movies.

    But I think its the old Hollywood mentality "you are only as good as your last movie" - every actor had follow up movies after Batman. Sadly those actors movies in the first list weren't successful movies. While the likes of Clooney's and Carrey's were.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    CoolHat wrote: »
    One could argue if the first 3 Batman's were the kiss of death to most careers involved.

    - Michael Keaton. Personally I think he is a good actor. But after Batman Returns. He just went down hill. Surely being Batman in two successful movies would of made you thought he would of done more.
    - Chris O'Donnell. Again, being Robin you think he would of gotten some decent run in other movies around the time. He never did. All I know him is Robin and being in The Bachelor (1999)
    - Val Kilmer. Yet again, just went down hill. The Saint (1997) flopped accordingly.
    - Alicia Silverstone. Clueless was massive. After Batman And Robin (1997), She did Excess Baggage and Blast from the Past. Then fell into TV work in 2000/2001.


    On the filp side tho, you have:

    - George Clooney. Being Batman certainly didn't effect him.
    - Jim Carrey. Went on to be more famous.
    - Tommy Lee Jones. Went on to do more successful movies.

    But I think its the old Hollywood mentality "you are only as good as your last movie" - every actor had follow up movies after Batman. Sadly those actors movies in the first list weren't successful movies. While the likes of Clooney's and Carrey's were.

    Val Kilmer's career feel apart because he is an absolute bastard and most directors he worked with despised him. Schumacher called Kilmer "the most psychologically disturbed human being I have ever worked with" and on the set of Island of Dr. Moreau John Frankheimer screamed after shooting Kilmer's last scene "Cut! Now get that bastard off my set!". Kilmer burnt a camera operators face with a cigarette on set and while he denied it was intentional everyone else saw it as being a malicious and deliberate act.

    I actually rate Kilmer very highly as an actor and do enjoy his work but on a set just like any other workplace you have to respect your coworkers and when you insist that no one can make eye contact with you and act like a spoilt bully then you find that a lot of people will simply refuse to work with you. In Hollywood an actor who has a reputation for being difficult will find that a lot of people will refuse to work with him.


    To be fair to Tommy Lee Jones, he was an icon of cinema well before he was Two Face. If anything it ranks as a low point on his CV and he was completely miscast in the role.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,388 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    Kirk Baltz, the guy who played officer Marvin Nash in Reservoir Dogs. Proberly the only guy from the film who wasn't already established, that didn't go any further or reach his potential.

    Mark Hamall, Now I know he's renowned for being the voice of Joker, but other then that. Star Wars is really his only big claim to fame. I heard that he dosen't like Harrison Ford, because Harrison got all his movies roles or something but I'm not sure about that.

    Linda Hamilton. Like Micheal Biehn, after Terimnator she didn't really go anywhere.

    Also a +1 for Micheal Keaton. Other then the Tim Burton movies he's starred in. He hasn't reached his full potential......... AND HE WAS BATMAN!!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,561 ✭✭✭enfant terrible


    Thought Jared Leto would move onto good roles after American Psycho but I guess Christian Bale overshadowed everyone in that movie.



  • Registered Users Posts: 85,480 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Abbie Cornish- Was brillant in her native Australia with films as such as Somersault and the brillant but sadly underrated Candy (Heath Ledgers greatest performance for me) but since moving to Hollywood she's been wasted in terrible dross like Sucker punch and limitless.

    Christina Ricci -was possibly one of the best child actors around with roles in Addams family films but actually slided into adult roles with brillant performance in The opposite of sex and starring in great movies like sleepy hollow, Monster. But ever since Speed Racer its been downhill ever since starring in straight to dvd movies.

    Ewam Mcgregor- i will probably get a lot ofhate for this one but for me he hasn't lived up to his potential after Shallow grave and trainspotting. yes he's had the odd role in okay films but he could have been a far better actor.

    + 1 on Christina Ricci and she now is in a tv show soap opera drama Pan Am


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    RopeDrink wrote: »
    Let's hope at least half of them are good, then ;)

    He also spent time doing porn or something to that effect, as far as I know. That does seem to have some effect on careers, oddly sometimes positive, mostly negative.

    porn of the ametuer kind , apparently he,d be well suited to that film industry , he has some bizzare condition which means he,s always on duty if you know what i mean :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    Val Kilmer's career feel apart because he is an absolute bastard and most directors he worked with despised him. Schumacher called Kilmer "the most psychologically disturbed human being I have ever worked with" and on the set of Island of Dr. Moreau John Frankheimer screamed after shooting Kilmer's last scene "Cut! Now get that bastard off my set!". Kilmer burnt a camera operators face with a cigarette on set and while he denied it was intentional everyone else saw it as being a malicious and deliberate act.

    I actually rate Kilmer very highly as an actor and do enjoy his work but on a set just like any other workplace you have to respect your coworkers and when you insist that no one can make eye contact with you and act like a spoilt bully then you find that a lot of people will simply refuse to work with you. In Hollywood an actor who has a reputation for being difficult will find that a lot of people will refuse to work with him.


    To be fair to Tommy Lee Jones, he was an icon of cinema well before he was Two Face. If anything it ranks as a low point on his CV and he was completely miscast in the role.

    you know your a sob to work with when your refered to as such in father ted :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,700 ✭✭✭irishh_bob


    Riddle101 wrote: »
    Kirk Baltz, the guy who played officer Marvin Nash in Reservoir Dogs. Proberly the only guy from the film who wasn't already established, that didn't go any further or reach his potential.

    Mark Hamall, Now I know he's renowned for being the voice of Joker, but other then that. Star Wars is really his only big claim to fame. I heard that he dosen't like Harrison Ford, because Harrison got all his movies roles or something but I'm not sure about that.

    Linda Hamilton. Like Micheal Biehn, after Terimnator she didn't really go anywhere.

    Also a +1 for Micheal Keaton. Other then the Tim Burton movies he's starred in. He hasn't reached his full potential......... AND HE WAS BATMAN!!!


    i think its pretty obvious why mark hamill never went any further , hes a ham actor , all things being equal , he,s been able to dine out on that one big role ever since


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,509 ✭✭✭NotorietyH


    Have to disagree with some people who seem to suggest moving to TV isn't fulfilling potential. Some of the best acting can be seen on TV these days, and TV in general is producing some outstanding shows that are easily better than a lot of films. Some actors are fulfilling their potential by moving to TV if you ask me. Especially as actors get older the movie roles dry up, whereas TV has plenty of room for character actors.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,700 ✭✭✭tricky D


    Joanne Whalley started off with a bit of a bang and seemed to have the world at her feet until 1990, but then declined mainly into made for TV mediocrity.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    NotorietyH wrote: »
    Have to disagree with some people who seem to suggest moving to TV isn't fulfilling potential. Some of the best acting can be seen on TV these days, and TV in general is producing some outstanding shows that are easily better than a lot of films. Some actors are fulfilling their potential by moving to TV if you ask me. Especially as actors get older the movie roles dry up, whereas TV has plenty of room for character actors.

    Agreed. TV shows allow for a lot of character development and depth, and the actors who play these roles (if they are good) often completely inhabit the roles in a way that is rarely seen in movies for me - much of the cast of The Sopranos, Bryan Cranston as Walter White and Giancarlo Esposito as Gus Fring in Breaking Bad, Steve Buscemi in Boardwalk Empire. They've turned in some great performances on some quality shows on television.


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