Intentional Camera Movement.

AnCatDubh

I think it was Oldgoat who posted a link on one of the threads about this, and i thought -ohh, that's quite nice.

Then, there was an article in one of the camera magazines recently which caught my eye while browsing with what I thought was some *beautiful* imagery - it was a photographer who specialised in Intentional Camera Movement. Can't remember the name (damn you my bad memory). I thought the style was reminiscent of painted pieces of art (watercolour perhaps, monet also came to mind) and I was quite taken by what I saw.

Browsing a contact's flickr tonight I saw reference to it.

It is what it says on the tin. Examples of what Intentional Camera Movement can be found on flickr. Some good some bad here plus its a live flickr search so you never know what it will show up.

Just wondering if there is an interest on the forum in this or indeed do we have any practitioners in our midst. Remember *intentional* appears to be the name of the game rather than the happy accident.

Do people see it as bad photography or an extension of the art* ?

like or no like

thoughts?

*helmet on, I think I just mentioned the A word in there, well at least I didn't also say great in the same sentence

PopeBuckfastXVI

I did this before - nobody but me liked it though! I think it's cool, sort of like an impressionist painting!

hi_im_fil

Would panning following a car be regarded as intentional movement? Kind of should be imo

Like this

Prodrift Fermoy 2011 by philipmchugh, on Flickr

challengemaster

Nah, panning is a skill. Intentionally giving your camera a nudge during a long exposure is....well... :pac:

DaireQuinlan

I'm inclined a little more toward the ... abstract ...



I do find it kind of presumptious when someone sticks a label onto something like this though, particularly a label With Capital Letters as though that gives it more gravitas or something. It reminds me of that lomography society thing of parrotting everything as a 'technique', as in the 'Double Exposure technique' and the 'Cross Processing technique'and the 'Light Leak technique' etc etc. It smacks of taking something that people have been doing quite happily for ages and attempting to own it somehow.

A.Partridge

Done properly, the results of deliberate shake can be a joy to behold.

This is one of my Flickr contacts a fantastic photographer called Chris Friel:

http://www.chrisfriel.co.uk/advanced-photographer.pdf


In my opinion it is definitely not bad photography when done to this standard.

serjical_strike

hey guys.. seen this and thought id share. i was in prague recently and went to an exhibition by a photographer called jiri turek, he has a very distinct style which involves a lot of movement in some his images, to some this looks like bad photography but i think the images are amazing. they show a great feeling of life and movement to the cities he is shooting in and is refreshing to see rather than the usual city shots (like i shoot at the moment ) anyway enjoy.!! the site doesnt show all of the images he has on display but im sure they could be found..

here is a link to the leica gallery that is exhibiting his work at the moment.

http://www.lgp.cz/en/event/exhibition/jiri-turek-citylab.html

http://www.jiriturek.com/

Eirebear

challengemaster wrote: »

Nah, panning is a skill. Intentionally giving your camera a nudge during a long exposure is....well... :pac:

Hmmm, i see where your coming from - but in the right context surely it is as much a "skill" as panning, or any other technique used in order to create the effect you want?

superflyninja

A.Partridge wrote: »

Done properly, the results of deliberate shake can be a joy to behold.

This is one of my Flickr contacts a fantastic photographer called Chris Friel:

http://www.chrisfriel.co.uk/advanced-photographer.pdf


In my opinion it is definitely not bad photography when done to this standard.

i totally agree.super stuff....

DaireQuinlan

serjical_strike wrote: »

hey guys.. seen this and thought id share. i was in prague recently and went to an exhibition by a photographer called jiri turek, he has a very distinct style which involves a lot of movement in some his images, to some this looks like bad photography but i think the images are amazing. they show a great feeling of life and movement to the cities he is shooting in and is refreshing to see rather than the usual city shots (like i shoot at the moment ) anyway enjoy.!! the site doesnt show all of the images he has on display but im sure they could be found..

here is a link to the leica gallery that is exhibiting his work at the moment.

http://www.lgp.cz/en/event/exhibition/jiri-turek-citylab.html

http://www.jiriturek.com/

They actually look as though they were initially good photographs before he proceeds to over process the crap out of them.

They're called 'shadows'. They're meant to be there.

OldGoat

The link that made me sit up a and look at this form of photography was Eva Polak. Camera shake is just one aspect of her work. What apealed to me most was that her work is (mostly) straight from the camera and without mucking about in Photoshop.
I found trying to replicate her work an interesting experience and something that I will return to again and again. It's just a smear of vaselene on the lens and a tap of the tripod during long exposure but she produces lovely images.

I know that it's not everyones cup of tea but then again what aspect of photography is?

WillyWonka

Dazftw's photo post in the recent skateboarding C+C thread is classic. Flash combined with movement.

AnCatDubh

A.Partridge wrote: »

http://www.chrisfriel.co.uk/advanced-photographer.pdf

This is the one I was browsing. Really impressed me.

AnCatDubh

OldGoat wrote: »

The link that made me sit up a and look at this form of photography was Eva Polak.

Wonderful artist. Really loved the link.

music crazy

Really like photo by PopeBuckfast:)

daycent

I have one! I took this last year in a field of dandelions. I used a slow-ish shutter speed and spun around a bit as I fired off a few shots.

DaireQuinlan

Actually this would be sort of cooler (and capitalisable) if it were an actual popular movement of some sort, which is actually initially what I thought when I read the thread title.

Down with UN-Intentional cameras ! Intentional Cameras ! In all institutions and workplaces, let's popularise Intentional Cameras !! Let's take revenge a thousand times on the UN-Intentional Cameras !!!

daycent

DaireQuinlan wrote: »

Actually this would be sort of cooler (and capitalisable) if it were an actual popular movement of some sort, which is actually initially what I thought when I read the thread title.

Down with UN-Intentional cameras ! Intentional Cameras ! In all institutions and workplaces, let's popularise Intentional Cameras !! Let's take revenge a thousand times on the UN-Intentional Cameras !!!

I hear Canon are developing an 'Intentional camera'. Only available to "pro togs" though........:rolleyes:

daycent

daycent wrote: »

I have one! I took this last year in a field of dandelions. I used a slow-ish shutter speed and spun around a bit as I fired off a few shots.

Jeez, looking again I should have gone easy on d'oul saturation slider

magicbastarder

you should photoshop a bulge in just right at the bottom middle.

daycent

magicbastarder wrote: »

you should photoshop a bulge in just right at the bottom middle.

I already photoshopped it out!! :eek: Too distracting...

Eirebear

daycent wrote: »

I have one! I took this last year in a field of dandelions. I used a slow-ish shutter speed and spun around a bit as I fired off a few shots.

I had a couple of beers this afternoon after college.....i didnt need to see that!

Hugh_C

some great stuff here

http://www.yuliagorbachenko.com/album/traction?p=1

bluto63

I also made a brief attempt at creating photos like these. Here's one of my favourites from it. I plan on trying more along the lines this summer.
Also, I really like those pictures by Chris Friel. Beautiful colours

Gasherbraun

Someone made reference to ICM photos being over processed. It is quite often the case that ICM has little post pro work apart from saturation and level work. What is often a characteristic is the huge amount of images taken on a shoot to obtain something that works and often nothing does. But effectively you shoot enough and hopefully have pretty much the end result sooc that requires minimal work

Chris (Friel) actually carries out minimal post processing and in fact only started shooting in RAW earlier this year in order to control colour better. He used to pre-set the camera shooting jpeg so that it de-saturated the image as it was taken and used to shoot predominately b+w (partly due to being colour blind)

Is ICM (the tag originates from the need, in the internet era, to search) creative or skillful or just a photographic cop out? well I would say do two things 1) look at Chris Friels work + ICM groups on Flickr and 2) try it and understand how hard it is to create 'images' like he does.

Then decide

Adrian.Sadlier

These are a couple I tried last year. My dslr "drowned" so all I had was a small compact with woefull low light capabilities. Kept getting blurred shots (un-intentional) so I decided to go with the "flow" and see what I could do...:D

dakar

I've always kinda liked this type of shot, rarely post them anywhere though.

humberklog

I love a touch of lag in the rain.

pearljamfan

i like everyones pics on this thread, will give it another go myself, heres one i took from the car and i always liked the colours, i need to shop out the reflections in the sky though..

rain on

Already posted in Random Photos, but I had a go at this with some fairy lights the other day.


Shooting stars by in_effigy, on Flickr

OldGoat

One from today, a kiss in the street.

Adrian.Sadlier

dinneenp

here's a few of mine:
.3 second shutter speed and shock the camera around a bit.
50mm (nifty fifty)
ISO 200
It was hard to get a 'standard' good shot (background distractions etc) so I thought I'd try something different.




'Camera throw' which looks like Cocteau Twins Heaven Or Las Vegas album cover:




Run, Robbie, Run



Cycling Race, heavily edited (obviously)

OldGoat

Really like the Robbie one. Almost makes football look interesting.

thatsnotmyname

alb

An accidental one that made me wonder about doing this intentionally a while back



I started a thread somewhat related to this here

OldGoat

Did you follow up and take any with intentional movement?

Cakes.

Was in Dublin yesterday and had a go at this.

ellieswellies

I completely misread the title as 'international camera movement'..oops!
This isn't intentional, but my winder jams every now and again

AnCatDubh

What are people finding best in terms of technique (I appreciate with these in particular, technique will be subjective here).

I don't think i've yet seen images quite of a like to Chris Friel or Eva Polak yet - some nice stuff but not like that. The linked article on Chris Friel makes reference to shooting 400 in a day with only a few keepers. hmnnnnnnnnn...... luck or technique involved here?

Anyone using ND filters to get their long exposures? - though much of what's been posted look like they are low light anyways

I've experimented a little over the last day or two - mostly dross results so i'm still on an uphill struggle for now.

OldGoat

I've started to use ND's when necessary - trying to get an OK exposure at a shutter speed of between 1/10 to 1/30 of a second. Before I picked those up I was limited to dawn and dusk shooting. I like getting the shot SOOC as best I can with as little PP as possible - mostly just levels and occasionally pushing the saturation.

Most of what I shoot is urban rather then rural so I seldom get the pretty tree and flower shots. I look out for colour and shape, repeating patterns are good. I've found that the images I like most are ones of shop windows and the reflections cast in them.

I tend to put two different motions into the camera, a transverse swing across the subject but at the same time rotating the camera to keep the lens (kinda) pointed at an object of interest. All of this as I'm walking past so thats a third movment I guess. And if the object of interest is a reflection of someone else walking then thats a fourth movment to work with - at which point the return hit rate plummets.

My hit rate is way better then a few in 400 but then again I'm not as fussy nor shooting to the quality that Chris does.

superflyninja

Taken on a 65B

dinneenp

At a gig in the Galway Arts Festival with a standard/crappy compact. Realized I couldn't get any good band photos so tried this instead

phog

Not really camera movement, rather changing the zoom in a long exposure photo.

stabo

Nightflight @ Button factory. by Jim Stapleton, on Flickr

af_thefragile

I think I overdid it...............

the_tractor

Camera round the neck, on timer, spin with child, then repeat until you get a keeper, or you vomit. :-)

kelly1

OldGoat

Robinwood

@DaireQuinlan......... What exactly is in the picture which you have pasted above ?

DaireQuinlan

Robinwood wrote: »

@DaireQuinlan......... What exactly is in the picture which you have pasted above ?

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