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if brothels where legalised..

  • 29-05-2011 10:43pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭


    Would there be protests?,would there be outrage here on boards?,would it bring in revenue for broke country?,would it do booming trade?.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Yes to everything.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,528 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Would it be awesome?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,664 ✭✭✭Doyler92


    There would be protests at the start but people would get used to it after a while just like the smoking ban.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Would it be awesome?

    Yes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,340 ✭✭✭deco nate


    op,would you be broke cos of it?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Would there be protests?
    would there be outrage here on boards?
    would it bring in revenue for broke country?
    would it do booming trade?

    Yes, for a while.
    50/50 on average I guessing.
    Well every little bit helps. No idea as to how much.
    Honestly don't know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    would it solve the carbon footprint?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,879 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    Would there be protests?,
    would there be outrage here on boards?,
    would it bring in revenue for broke country?,
    would it do booming trade?.

    Would you offer your opinion?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    But sure prostitution is already legal. :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    Would never happen here, if it did i would say there would be outrage, i doubt it would blow over either and they would eventually just have to shut down.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    would it bring in revenue for broke country?,would it do booming trade?.

    I could get no pleasure from making revenue for this state.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    They're basically legal in all but name. They just operate via the internet and mobile phones rather than 'drop ins'. The government doesn't have to legisalte to make it openly legal, the brothels keep running, the clients have prostitutes to go to and the old biddys etc aren't outraged. Everyone's happy.

    It's an Irish solution to an Irish problem.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    we'd all be fucked. literally


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭entropi


    Doubt it would ever happen...this country is still too repressed thanks to the catholic church.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    A fuss was kicked up over a strip club, just imagine if there was a legalised brothel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Monfoolio


    If brothels were legalised........HILARIOUS.

    Enda please legalise brothels!!!:p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,009 ✭✭✭✭wnolan1992


    Oh man, please nooo..... I can barely afford my current vices. :pac: :P


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,528 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    They'll be trying to legalise weed or abortion next and you know what'll happen then? The pubs'll be open on good friday and we'll all burn in hell.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 66 ✭✭Monfoolio


    Why shy away from the usual Irish way of dealing with something........................Shhh sweep it under the carpet!!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 193 ✭✭hairy sailor


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,376 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    irish-stew wrote: »
    A fuss was kicked up over a strip club, just imagine if there was a legalised brothel.

    yeah there would be a huge fuss if they were legalised in major population centres, however i wonder if they ran with the nevada model (building them miles from anywhere) would that be any different, i can see it now chicken ranches in the hills of donegal :p


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    VAT rate would be 13.5% seeing as how it's a service industry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    yeah there would be a huge fuss if they were legalised in major population centres, however i wonder if they ran with the nevada model (building them miles from anywhere) would that be any different, i can see it now chicken ranches in the hills of donegal :p

    We're discussing human prostitution here, not chicken stud for humans...
    Pervert.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Apparently though prostitutes, or escorts as they prefer to be called these days, can and do make a few thousand Euro a week, without paying a cent in income tax???

    At the moment, it's illegal, so you'd have to ask why CAB are not targetting them for the huge money that they make from the proceeds of crime. I don't think it's acceptable these days for any person to be raking in thousands of Euro a week and not a cent in tax taken off them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Apparently though prostitutes, or escorts as they prefer to be called these days, can and do make a few thousand Euro a week, without paying a cent in income tax???

    At the moment, it's illegal, so you'd have to ask why CAB are not targetting them for the huge money that they make from the proceeds of crime. I don't think it's acceptable these days for any person to be raking in thousands of Euro a week and not a cent in tax taken off them...

    If the government wasn't so stupid as to continue to legislate for consensual private moral issues which are nobody's business except those directly involved, we wouldn't have this problem. Nanny State strikes once again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,231 ✭✭✭Fad


    Apparently though prostitutes, or escorts as they prefer to be called these days, can and do make a few thousand Euro a week, without paying a cent in income tax???

    At the moment, it's illegal, so you'd have to ask why CAB are not targetting them for the huge money that they make from the proceeds of crime. I don't think it's acceptable these days for any person to be raking in thousands of Euro a week and not a cent in tax taken off them...

    Don't a large proportion of the country's richest people pay no tax whatsoever? start from the top tbh....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    Fad wrote: »
    Don't a large proportion of the country's richest people pay no tax whatsoever? start from the top tbh....

    And who are those people??? The only people I see around here who pay no tax whatsoever are prostitutues.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,528 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    And who are those people??? The only people I see around here who pay no tax whatsoever are prostitutues.

    Bono


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Bassboxxx


    More importantly,

    Would there be water sports?
    Would they do credit?
    Would they allow you to bring you own toys?
    Would they have a glass table I could lie under?


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Apparently though prostitutes, or escorts as they prefer to be called these days, can and do make a few thousand Euro a week, without paying a cent in income tax???

    At the moment, it's illegal, so you'd have to ask why CAB are not targetting them for the huge money that they make from the proceeds of crime. I don't think it's acceptable these days for any person to be raking in thousands of Euro a week and not a cent in tax taken off them...
    It's illegal to advertise for sex, hence advertising for legal services that suggest sex might be a possibility.

    As for CAB if you declare your income and you haven't done anything illegal there isn't any problem. ( Those who life off imoral earnings of others should of course spend the rest of their lives in pain amplifiers )

    It's legal to pay for sex. (how does breach of contract work on that one if you can't get a refund ? ;) )

    Of course you can't donate blood afterwards if you've sex as a result of money changing hands.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Bassboxxx wrote: »
    Would they have a glass table I could lie under?
    Amatuer :rolleyes:

    Polycarbonate ftw.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    If brothels are legalised & there are protesters, we could call them protestitutes.

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    It's illegal to advertise for sex, hence advertising for legal services that suggest sex might be a possibility.

    As for CAB if you declare your income and you haven't done anything illegal there isn't any problem. ( Those who life off imoral earnings of others should of course spend the rest of their lives in pain amplifiers )

    It's legal to pay for sex. (how does breach of contract work on that one if you can't get a refund ? ;) )

    Of course you can't donate blood afterwards if you've sex as a result of money changing hands.

    It's illegal to not declare income... Other people get prosecuted for it so I don't know why prostitutes don't, notwithstanding the fact that they are engaged in criminal activity.

    Drug dealing is highly illegal yet CAB can target assets bought with the proceeds of that criminal offence, yet they can't take money off tax avoiding prostitutes, who are engaged in a different type of illegal activity, why not is all I ask???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    It's illegal to not declare income... Other people get prosecuted for it so I don't know why prostitutes don't, notwithstanding the fact that they are engaged in criminal activity.

    Drug dealing is highly illegal yet CAB can target assets bought with the proceeds of that criminal offence, yet they can't take money off tax avoiding prostitutes, who are engaged in a different type of illegal activity, why not is all I ask???

    I actually think they can but they don't for whatever reason.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,912 ✭✭✭HellFireClub


    I actually think they can but they don't for whatever reason.

    Of course they can but they are too lazy to go after them, they only want the headline work of millions of Euro. I'm not too clued in on the legalise prostitution debate but I'm very against any person earning 4 and 5 digit sums in a week and not paying a cent tax on it. Whether we legalise it or not, I don't care but in these times people on massive salaries paying no tax whatsoever, I don't f*cking think so...


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,783 ✭✭✭Hank_Jones


    ArtyM wrote: »
    Would there be protests?,
    would there be outrage here on boards?,
    would it bring in revenue for broke country?,
    would it do booming trade?.

    Would you offer your opinion?

    Bit ironic that.

    I think they would be great business most likely and would boost the economy.
    Would bring a different kind of tourism, not the kind we as a country would care to promote, but still.

    Would also add to problems with organised crime in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,494 ✭✭✭finbarrk


    We're discussing human prostitution here, not chicken stud for humans...
    Pervert.

    You obviously haven't been to Nevada.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    I for one would fear for the consequences if prostitution were legalised.
    It would be just the same as the construction bubble, a sex bubble if you like.
    Can you imagine hundreds of thousands of women going off to work in the sex industry every evening, stopping off in the local Spar or Centra for a Lo Cal snack.
    FAS courses designed to train these women in their growing trades not to mention expensive junkets to Nevada and Amsterdam and maybe even NASA.
    New Brothels would have to be built up to new strict EU standards in every town and village across the village giving employment to local builders.
    New STD clinics would also have to be built possibly with all the added people employed there.
    Hundreds of sex therapists would have to be trained to deal with the impending sex maniacs.
    As microeconomics dictate for every job created there is another 1 created indirectly.
    After a few years of brothels getting better and more expensive to build, and sex getting more expensive you would have David McWilliams coming on TV warning against the inevitable bust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,166 ✭✭✭enda1


    I for one would fear for the consequences if prostitution were legalised.
    snip

    Prostitution in Ireland is legal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,406 ✭✭✭Pompey Magnus


    If brothels are legalised & there are protesters, we could call them protestitutes.

    :D

    If the Church of Ireland organises it we can call them Prodetestitutes.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,563 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    New Brothels would have to be built up to new strict EU standards in every town and village across the village giving employment to local builders.
    Ah...

    I think you have hit the nail on the head.


    FF would do it as a backhander to the builders next time they get in power.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭leviathon


    you would have David McWilliams coming on TV warning against the inevitable bust.

    Oh there would be an inevitable bust alright...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    Would the dole be increased to allow out of work single people have regular rides? Or would they get a STD (sexy time discount) card like the medical card, allowing a certain number of visits per year?
    Of course then we would get anecdotal evidence of dem ferigners stopping the sexy time half way through, saying the government will pay for more later :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,028 ✭✭✭✭--LOS--


    There would be protests and outrage and rightly so........what a repressive, backwards idea to support.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    AFAIK, prostitution isn't illegal in Ireland. Being a brothel owner is, I think, and there's some laws that ban stuff around the periphery of it, but in general, it's not strictly illegal in Ireland... It's a 'grey area' that's neither illegal nor legislated for under law positive or negative, and the connections to criminals come through pimps and so forth who are caught up in other activities.

    It is, as one poster has observed, 'an Irish solution to an Irish problem.'

    Interestingly, though everyone points to Amsterdam as the legalised hub of it in Europe, it's widely legal in places like Germany, and I believe it holds a similar 'not illegal' status in many other places, like the UK.

    The issue isn't prostitution in my mind - what consenting people get up to and all that - it's human trafficking and prostitution. But hunting down human traffickers isn't a war on prostitution in my mind, it's a war on, well, human trafficking.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,361 ✭✭✭mgmt


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    AFAIK, prostitution isn't illegal in Ireland.

    It's not. You just have to order them online. Seriously.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,826 ✭✭✭phill106


    Nijmegen wrote: »
    AFAIK, prostitution isn't illegal in Ireland. Being a brothel owner is, I think, and there's some laws that ban stuff around the periphery of it, but in general, it's not strictly illegal in Ireland... It's a 'grey area' that's neither illegal nor legislated for under law positive or negative, and the connections to criminals come through pimps and so forth who are caught up in other activities.

    It is, as one poster has observed, 'an Irish solution to an Irish problem.'

    Interestingly, though everyone points to Amsterdam as the legalised hub of it in Europe, it's widely legal in places like Germany, and I believe it holds a similar 'not illegal' status in many other places, like the UK.

    The issue isn't prostitution in my mind - what consenting people get up to and all that - it's human trafficking and prostitution. But hunting down human traffickers isn't a war on prostitution in my mind, it's a war on, well, human trafficking.
    and if it was made legal, there wouldn't be trafficking!
    How often do you hear of someone trafficking call centre staff. Or barmen.
    As long as they have a pps number and paying tax, all would be well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,086 ✭✭✭Nijmegen


    phill106 wrote: »
    and if it was made legal, there wouldn't be trafficking!
    How often do you hear of someone trafficking call centre staff. Or barmen.
    As long as they have a pps number and paying tax, all would be well.
    There is, perhaps, merit in your argument worth exploring.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    --LOS-- wrote: »
    There would be protests and outrage and rightly so........what a repressive, backwards idea to support.
    :D:D:D:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Possible outcomes need more Joe Duffy.


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