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Scientists find happy men are 'significantly less attractive' to ladies

  • 24-05-2011 12:43pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭


    This is a load of tosh if ive ever seen a 'scientific study' with a definitive conclusion. Im inherantly happy and smiley and lots of women are endeared to it. Ladies, is this true? Do ye only go for the broody, macho, twilight-esque rugged men? :eek: Cant understand why a woman wouldn't be attracted to someone who was cheerful and talked about stuff, and visa versa!

    Women really DO like the strong, silent type: Scientists find happy men are 'significantly less attractive' to ladies

    Women find happy men significantly less sexually attractive than those who swagger or brood, researchers said today.

    They are least attracted to smiling men, instead preferring those who looked proud and powerful, or moody and ashamed, according to a study.
    In contrast, men are most sexually attracted to women who look happy, and least attracted to those who appear proud and confident.

    The University Of British Columbia study, which is the first to report a significant gender difference in the attractiveness of smiles, helps explain the enduring allure of 'bad boys' and other iconic gender stereotypes.
    It is also the first study to investigate the attractiveness of displays of pride and shame.

    Lead researcher Professor Jessica Tracy said: 'While showing a happy face is considered essential to friendly social interactions, including those involving sexual attraction - few studies have actually examined whether a smile is, in fact, attractive.

    'This study finds that men and women respond very differently to displays of emotion, including smiles.'

    These photos included universal displays of happiness (broad smiles), pride (raised heads, puffed-up chests) and shame (lowered heads, averted eyes).
    The researchers found that women were least attracted to smiling, happy men - in contrast to men, who were most attracted to women who looked happy.

    Overall, the researchers said, men rank women more attractive than women rank men.

    Study co-author Alec Beall said: 'It is important to remember that this study explored first-impressions of sexual attraction to images of the opposite sex.
    'We were not asking participants if they thought these targets would make a good boyfriend or wife - we wanted their gut reactions on carnal, sexual attraction.'

    'The results reflect some very traditional gender norms and cultural values that have emerged, developed and been reinforced through history, at least in Western cultures'

    He said previous studies have found positive emotional traits and a nice personality to be highly desirable in a relationship partners.
    Professor Tracy and Mr Beall said that other studies suggest that what people find attractive has been shaped by centuries of evolutionary and cultural forces.

    For example, evolutionary theories suggest females are attracted to male displays of pride because they imply status, competence and an ability to provide for a partner and offspring.

    According to Mr Beall, the pride expression accentuates typically masculine physical features, such as upper body size and muscularity.
    'Previous research has shown that these features are among the most attractive male physical characteristics, as judged by women,' he said.
    The researchers said more work is needed to understand the differing responses to happiness, but suggest the phenomenon can also be understood according to principles of evolutionary psychology, as well as socio-cultural gender norms.

    For example, past research has associated smiling with a lack of dominance, which is consistent with traditional gender norms of the 'submissive and vulnerable' woman, but inconsistent with the 'strong, silent' man.
    Professor Tracy said: 'Generally, the results appear to reflect some very traditional gender norms and cultural values that have emerged, developed and been reinforced through history, at least in Western cultures.
    'These include norms and values that many would consider old-fashioned and perhaps hoped that we've moved beyond.'


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  • Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yep, it's true, in fact I love criers.

    Especially guys who only ever talk about how hard life is, and never smile. Smiling? They must be inadequate in bed. Fact. Crygasms are the most attrative thing a guy can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    What if you're a sad person, who's just read this and it's made you happy??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    Jaysus, everyone in AH must be gettin' the hole every night so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,559 ✭✭✭✭AnonoBoy


    Must be why this guy gets so many ladies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Isn't it time to stop wasting tax money on these cunts and get them back doing uselful work like building cluster bombs or synthesizing new crisp flavours?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,897 ✭✭✭MagicSean


    It's confirmed what I always knew.

    Bitches be crazy.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,269 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    SparkyTech wrote: »
    This is a load of tosh if ive ever seen a 'scientific study' with a definitive conclusion. Im inherantly happy and smiley and lots of women are endeared to it

    Anecdotal evidence trumps scientific study any day ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 151 ✭✭AaronEnnis


    rabble rabble rabble daily mail scientific study rabble rabble etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    So.................if I'm happy, which I am..................then....................that mean's I'm....................ugly?

    *sniff*

    WAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa............


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭SparkyTech


    el tonto wrote: »
    Anecdotal evidence trumps scientific study any day ;)

    Indeedy :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Shouldn't the scientists have taken looks more into account?
    Surely a gorgeous happy guy is going to be more attractive than a sad ugmo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    To be fair what an utter waste of money. I would actually like to see the peer reviewed research paper rather than the article from the Daily Mail.

    On the other hand, I've been a sulky **** for years and it hasn't made any difference.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 590 ✭✭✭SparkyTech


    To be fair what an utter waste of money. I would actually like to see the peer reviewed research paper rather than the article from the Daily Mail.

    It was a study from The University Of British Columbia the DM reported on


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    SparkyTech wrote: »
    broody, macho, twilight-esque rugged men?


    hahahahahhahahahahahah!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭osullic


    Shouldn't the scientists have taken looks more into account?
    Surely a gorgeous happy guy is going to be more attractive than a sad ugmo.

    Yeah I agree showing women pictures of jolly fat men and then showing them pictures of a brooding Brad Pitt like guy doesn't make for good research.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    SparkyTech wrote: »
    It was a study from The University Of British Columbia the DM reported on

    Yes but I would like to see the original study rather than just a report on it. You would be suprised about how warped it can be from the original research.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    SparkyTech wrote: »
    Cant understand why a woman wouldn't be attracted to someone who was cheerful and talked about stuff, and visa versa!

    Simple tip:women want you to listen, not to talk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    The very smiley man can be a bit sinister. no?

    We've always known there is a form of brooder and misanthrope who is attractive to women, or God Knows, 19th century fiction would be unexplainable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    Those Bronte sisters would run a mile from a happy man, truth be told. A man
    with his deranged wife in the feckin attic
    and they are swarming around like flies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Simple tip:women want you to listen, not to talk.

    plus its a lot easier to fake


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    SparkyTech wrote: »
    This is a load of tosh if ive ever seen a 'scientific study' with a definitive conclusion. Im inherantly happy and smiley and lots of women are endeared to it. Ladies, is this true? Do ye only go for the broody, macho, twilight-esque rugged men? :eek: Cant understand why a woman wouldn't be attracted to someone who was cheerful and talked about stuff, and visa versa!

    Women really DO like the strong, silent type: Scientists find happy men are 'significantly less attractive' to ladies

    Thing is if you're happy then yer less likely to want a wimmens in your life ruining that are'nt you?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Women love bàstards.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,491 ✭✭✭Yahew


    The brooder is not necessarily a bastard, though. He is probably a misunderstood poet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Yahew wrote: »
    The brooder is not necessarily a bastard, though. He is probably a misunderstood poet.

    That's what we they want them to think...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The Daily Mail has finally completed it's transformation into the UK's national enquirer.

    Their other breakthrough story today was a claim that Obama's secret service confiscated his glass from the pub in Moneygall yesterday to prevent "DNA Theft".


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,686 Mod ✭✭✭✭melekalikimaka


    crymaxing ftw


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    crymaxing ftw
    I cried after reading that ...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    Latchy wrote: »
    I cried after reading that ...

    Oh god now you've started me off with your crying...:o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,191 ✭✭✭✭Latchy


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Oh god now you've started me off with your crying...:o
    How was it for you (sniff) ?


    /passes tissues to Zohan


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 115 ✭✭MissMiami


    I am so turned on right now.........


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭Dennis the Stone


    Marty Morrissey is always smiling and he's one of the most desired men on the planet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    Duggy747 wrote: »
    So.................if I'm happy, which I am..................then....................that mean's I'm....................ugly?
    'fraid so man.. oh wait:
    *sniff*

    WAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa............
    Oh? oh? Ohhh! You are seriously hawt right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    From UBC:

    http://www.publicaffairs.ubc.ca/2011/05/24/happy-guys-finish-last-says-new-study-on-sexual-attractiveness/

    PDF presumably of the study on the right hand side, don't have a reader on this computer so can't open it :/

    Sample pictures too!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭pvt6zh395dqbrj




  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,720 Mod ✭✭✭✭dfx-


    stovelid wrote: »
    Isn't it time to stop wasting tax money on these cunts and get them back doing uselful work like building cluster bombs or synthesizing new crisp flavours?

    Hang on...'scientists' in this case looks a very broad term..these look more like psychologists or sociologists

    Some of us chemists and physicists are busy building destructive bombs right no...err I mean discovering new medicines :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    dfx- wrote: »
    Hang on...'scientists' in this case looks a very broad term..these look more like psychologists or sociologists

    Some of us chemists and physicists are busy building destructive bombs right no...err I mean discovering new medicines :)

    Don't fuck up me jokes, boffin-boy. :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    Girls are attracted to men who don't give a phuck about them. We all know the sweetest guy who's so sweet - that virgin is going to die alone. Nice guys finish last. As long as you don't put a woman on a pedestal and you're not a total dick you will get girls provided that you are not grotesquely ugly. If you are absolutely hideous then you better find a way to get rich or you will have to settle for an ugly bitch. These are the facts of life, my friends.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,375 ✭✭✭DoesNotCompute


    SparkyTech wrote: »
    Scientists find happy men are 'significantly less attractive' to ladies

    SO women want men to be miserable? Sounds about right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    SO women want men to be miserable? Sounds about right.

    Women want a "troubled soul" that they can "fix". A bad boy who has a heart of gold deep down.

    Of course, the women that think they want this usually do so at a young age, and then realise that a lot of guys are actually just assholes with no heart of gold deep down, so they get older and wiser and marry a nice guy who'll be nice and stuff. Of course the nice guy is even nicer than he normally would have been, because he waited so long for a daycent woman.
    You'll also see a lot of "nice guys" totally screwing women over in their late 20s and early 30s, because that's when the women have decided to settle down with a nice guy and so nice guys get their turn to play the field.

    Yeah.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,540 ✭✭✭Giselle


    Yahew wrote: »
    The very smiley man can be a bit sinister. no?
    .

    A guy grinning from ear to ear is going to make you think one of the following:

    He's simple
    He's desperate
    He's high
    He's drunk
    or
    He's got his hands in his pockets for a special reason.

    Ladies love a fixer-upper. Its like DIY for girls.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,810 ✭✭✭take everything


    :(

    /checks PM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Knasher


    Finally, well there is no arguing with this. I'm going to print off a PDF take it down to the pub and finally start getting some action. The women will be so taken with my scientifically proven charms they will have no option but to fall logically into my arms. No more sitting around alone and depressed on a Friday night; I'm just so happy .......



    Damn you science, foiled again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    el tonto wrote: »
    Anecdotal evidence trumps scientific study any day ;)
    And it's in the Daily Mail which is a reputed newspaper known for its excellent scientific journalism.

    See, I can be sarcastic too!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 username_eh?


    And it's in the Daily Mail which is a reputed newspaper known for its excellent scientific journalism.

    See, I can be sarcastic too!

    Its so true though. Give one or two looks then play the "i dont give a ****about you anymore" card and BAM shes in the bag ;)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Finally my tormented writer act will pay off!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    I'm a tortured soul :(:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 username_eh?


    sexy ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    Its so true though. Give one or two looks then play the "i dont give a ****about you anymore" card and BAM shes in the bag ;)
    Yeah, but that's not the same as being sad. If anything, a guy who is happier with his life would be less needy than a guy who is sad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,854 ✭✭✭Sinfonia


    And it's in the Daily Mail which is a reputed newspaper known for its excellent scientific journalism.

    See, I can be sarcastic too!

    Yeah, but obviously the research wasn't undertaken by the Daily Mail.
    Once again, the actual study is here: http://www.publicaffairs.ubc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Happy-Guys...in-pres-Emotion.pdf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,847 ✭✭✭HavingCrack


    Yeah, but that's not the same as being sad. If anything, a guy who is happier with his life would be less needy than a guy who is sad.

    Yeah the actual study is slightly different to what the Daily Mail said. Women are more attracted to men who display 'shame' rather than hapiness? I have only had a quick glance over it but I can't really make out what they mean? How do you look ashamed all the time? Are you constantly blushing and looking shifty eyed :confused:


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