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Premiership Managers 'Team of the Decade'

  • 24-05-2011 12:26pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9495163.stm

    This seasons 20 Premiership managers team of the decade-

    MANAGERS' TEAM OF DECADE
    GK: Edwin van der Sar
    RB: Gary Neville
    CB: Nemanja Vidic
    CB: John Terry
    LB: Ashley Cole
    RM: Cristiano Ronaldo
    CM: Steven Gerrard
    CM: Paul Scholes
    LM: Ryan Giggs
    S: Didier Drogba
    S: Alan Shearer

    I would have had Thierry Henry ahead of Shearer, and Lampard ahead of Scholes, but have to agree with the majority of those names.

    They also chose United's 2007/08 team as the best of the decade...... hmmm better than Arsenal's invincibles?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Charisteas wrote: »
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/9495163.stm

    This seasons 20 Premiership managers team of the decade-

    MANAGERS' TEAM OF DECADE
    GK: Edwin van der Sar
    RB: Gary Neville
    CB: Nemanja Vidic
    CB: John Terry
    LB: Ashley Cole
    RM: Cristiano Ronaldo
    CM: Steven Gerrard
    CM: Paul Scholes
    LM: Ryan Giggs
    S: Didier Drogba
    S: Alan Shearer

    I would have had Thierry Henry ahead of Shearer, and Lampard ahead of Scholes, but have to agree with the majority of those names.

    They also chose United's 2007/08 team as the best of the decade...... hmmm better than Arsenal's invincibles?

    I suppose they dealt with multiple competitions better


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Rio ahead of Terry surely to God?

    Henri definitely ahead of Shearer, sure Shearer was retired by 2006 and arguably had his peak between 1996 and 2000.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭almighty1


    Nah I cant see Rio ahead of JT.

    Keane or Vieira ahead of Scholes surely.

    Petr Cech?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    GK: Edwin van der Sar
    RB: Gary Neville
    CB: Nemanja Vidic
    CB: John Terry Carvalho :pac:
    LB: Ashley Cole
    RM: Cristiano Ronaldo
    CM: Steven Gerrard Lampard
    CM: Paul Scholes
    LM: Ryan Giggs
    S: Didier Drogba
    S: Alan Shearer Henry


    ^ My choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,890 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    almighty1 wrote: »
    Keane or Vieira ahead of Scholes surely.

    and Gerrard


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    almighty1 wrote: »
    Nah I cant see Rio ahead of JT.

    Keane or Vieira ahead of Scholes surely.

    I would have Rio ahead of Terry every single day of the week. One of the best defenders I've ever seen and criminally underrated. One of those guys who's naturally brilliant at being in the right place at the right time. His tour de force at Stamford Bridge in the CL earlier in the season having not kicked a ball in over 2 months was one of the didsplays of the season. When you're looking to play him beside Vidic in a team, him over Terry is simply no contest. United condeded three times as many goals away from hme wit him ansent as when he plays. He's magnificent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    I'd also make a case for Carvalho over Terry and Rio as Vidic's partner at the back. Hhhmmmm??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    Lampard and Henry are glaring omissions.

    Lampard has been the most consistently excellent central midfielder over the last 8 or 9 years, has to be in there. (allowing for the fact that this probably wasn't his best season)

    And Henry was arguably the striker of the decade, for a few seasons at Arsenal he was unstoppable. If we're talking overall prem league era then Shearer is in of course, but for a team of the noughties no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,617 ✭✭✭✭PHB


    Carvalho and Rio are the best defenders of the decade for me. As a partnership though, you'd want Vidic or Terry with them. Rio and Carvalho wouldn't work perfectly.

    For the PL, I'd put Lampard ahead of Gerrard myself. If it was all comps, I'd put Gerrard.

    Henry ahead of Shearer.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    the thing is, Terry & Vidic wouldn't work as a partnership

    Defenders like them need a Rio or a Carvalho beside them, Vidic or Terry to do the swashbuckling, last ditch, hardman stuff, head-in-a-place-most-men-wouldn't-put-their-feet stuff, Rio and Carvalho do the Libero, stride forward with the ball, start passing movements, read the game to stop attacks before they happen kind of stuff.

    Also, my granny would do them both for pace.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Thief


    LMAO @ Gary Neville!

    Where the fu€k is Henry, he should be the first striker down on that list!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,068 ✭✭✭Bodhisopha


    gavredking wrote: »
    GK: Edwin van der Sar
    RB: Gary Neville
    CB: Nemanja Vidic
    CB: John Terry Carvalho :pac:
    LB: Ashley Cole
    RM: Cristiano Ronaldo
    CM: Steven Gerrard Lampard
    CM: Paul Scholes
    LM: Ryan Giggs
    S: Didier Drogba
    S: Alan Shearer Henry


    ^ My choice.

    And Pires ahead of Giggs and it's just about right.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Henry should be in there comfortably ahead of Drogba and without question he should be ahead of Shearer.

    It's criminal to leave him out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Des wrote: »

    Also, my granny would do them both for pace.

    Terry & Vidic or Rio & Carvalho?

    At their prime Rio and Carvalho we're quick, Vidic isnt that quick but he gets by for a defender, JT was never quick, ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,837 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    LMAO @ Gary Neville!

    Where the fu€k is Henry, he should be the first striker down on that list!

    who'd you have as RB of the decade? Considering consistency has to come in to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,573 ✭✭✭✭yabadabado


    LMAO @ Gary Neville!

    No other RB comes close to him in the past decade.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,984 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    What about Van Nistelrooy - no space for him?
    He'd get in ahead of shearer in my opinion anyway and perhaps drogba as well.
    Van Nistelrooy and Henry up front for me.

    Not entirely sure what the managers base the selection on.


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    Charisteas wrote: »
    They also chose United's 2007/08 team as the best of the decade...... hmmm better than Arsenal's invincibles?

    Too right IMO. They scored more, conceded less and dominated Europe as well as England, going unbeaten in the CL that season. And they played some amazing football that year. Better yet, they managed to defend it the following year, rather than fall to pieces when their unbeaten run came to an end and a little hardship came their way.........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Rio for Terry and Henry for Drogba are the only ones that are really an issue for me.

    picking Lamps or Gerrard is six of one and half a dozen of another.

    Neville walks the RB slot.

    VDS is only challenged by Reina potentially IMO - Reina would've got into most teams of the season year-on-year until these last couple of years when VDS has come on particularly strong.

    i'd probably pick him.

    they're about the only points to make - the rest was a simple choice really.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,925 ✭✭✭aidan24326


    LMAO @ Gary Neville!

    Why would you be laughing at that?? Neville was the most consistent right back of the deacde, and in all honesty it's a position that hasn't that many outstanding candidates. Neville wasn't brilliant but he was better than anything else that was around.

    kippy wrote: »
    What about Van Nistelrooy - no space for him?
    He'd get in ahead of shearer in my opinion anyway and perhaps drogba as well.
    Van Nistelrooy and Henry up front for me.

    Not entirely sure what the managers base the selection on.

    Agreed. I'd go with Henry and Van Nistelrooy aswell. Really can't understand how they could leave Henry out though.


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    To be fair to Neville, he only became a pub player after the last decade ended, and he sat out the last bit of it with injury. Before then he was a brilliant RB, consistent and solid and willing to get up to help in attack. What more do you want. Football fan in short memory shocker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    Drop Drogba and Shearer and replace them with Henry and Lampard imo. Completely laughable that Henry doesn't get in to be honest.

    I wonder when these imaginary dream teams will cease to be 4-4-2 and will change to the 4-5-1/4-3-3 which has been used more frequently by the top teams in recent years

    EDIT: Forgot about RVN. If playing a 442 then him and Henry up top.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    No Vieira, No Bergkamp, No Henry, No Pires. Does not count.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    Its not the team of this decade, thats all I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    No Vieira, No Bergkamp, No Henry, No Pires. Does not count.

    Viera - great player, but who do you drop? A lot of competition there, and Gerrard and Scholes were influential for the whole decade which probably nudges them in.

    Bergkamp - Again only so much space in the team and I'd have Henry, RVN, Drogba and perhaps even Torres ahead of him.

    Henry - Agreed

    Pires - Who are you going to drop? Ronaldo and Giggs more or less undroppable imo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,239 ✭✭✭✭KeithAFC


    You surely have to have Vieira in that midfield. Next to Gerrard possibly. Bergkamp was just a genius. Has to be in it. One of the greatest footballers iv ever seen. Henry is a no brainer and Pires for me was a great shout too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,428 ✭✭✭busyliving


    I think they are some strange players there,

    How is Gerrard in there at all, you'd have to have Lampard, Keane or Vieria well ahead of him.

    John Terry...are you serious his useless and that has been shown up since Carvalho left...kinda the same with Rio useless unless with Vidic

    And Henry not there, now that is as criminal as his handball against last year


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,952 ✭✭✭Morzadec


    busyliving wrote: »
    I think they are some strange players there,

    How is Gerrard in there at all, you'd have to have Lampard, Keane or Vieria well ahead of him.

    John Terry...are you serious his useless and that has been shown up since Carvalho left...kinda the same with Rio useless unless with Vidic

    And Henry not there, now that is as criminal as his handball against last year

    Carried Liverpool for many a season, scored shed loads of goals from midfield through the whole decade, was voted the best player in the League in 2006, made it into 7 out of 10 PFA Teams of the Year.

    There were a lot of quality midfielders in the decade and it's hard to narrow it down to just 2. Everyone has their own opinion but to suggest Gerrard shouldn't be in consideration is ludicrous


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Cech

    Neville Campbell Ferdinand Cole

    Ronaldo Keane Vieira Giggs

    Henry Van Nistelrooy

    Subs: Van Der Sar, Terry, Scholes, Lampard, Gerrard, Bergkamp and Shearer


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,986 ✭✭✭Spazdarn


    KeithAFC wrote: »
    You surely have to have Vieira in that midfield. Next to Gerrard possibly. Bergkamp was just a genius. Has to be in it. One of the greatest footballers iv ever seen. Henry is a no brainer and Pires for me was a great shout too.

    Roy Keane could easily have rivaled Vieira for that type of midfield player. Agreed on Bergkamp he was unreal, but Henry and Drogba would have to be the top two for me.

    Pires was deadly also but again I'd probably give it to Giggs for his ability to stay on top of his game consistently.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 154 ✭✭CharlesHaughey


    Cech (GK)
    Neville (RB)
    Terry (CB)
    Vidic (CB)
    Cole (LB)
    Beckham (RM)
    Roy Keane (CM)
    Gerrard (CM)
    Giggs (LM)
    Cristiano Ronaldo (RWF)
    Henry (ST)

    IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    the whole past decade?

    Keane doesn't get in sorry.

    Scholes, Gerrard and Lampard have done more this whole decade than Keane did in the 4 years between 01 and 05.

    in fact, i'd suggest take the best 4 seasons of Gerrard, Lamps and Scholes, and put each of them against Keane's 4 seasons in the EPL this decade, and suspect Keane wouldn't get in.

    RVN is a good shout too BTW - him and Titi would probably be the strikeforce of the decade alright.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    flahavaj wrote: »
    I would have Rio ahead of Terry every single day of the week. One of the best defenders I've ever seen and criminally underrated. One of those guys who's naturally brilliant at being in the right place at the right time. His tour de force at Stamford Bridge in the CL earlier in the season having not kicked a ball in over 2 months was one of the didsplays of the season. When you're looking to play him beside Vidic in a team, him over Terry is simply no contest. United condeded three times as many goals away from hme wit him ansent as when he plays. He's magnificent.

    Wasting your time tbh, there's a cohort of posters here who base their opinions on Rio on his younger days. It's like they've missed every game he has played since 2007, except for late 2009 when he was playing injured.
    Subtle players like Rio and Busquets are massively underrated on the SF imo.

    Also, how can anyone say Gerrard isn't in the running? He has been world class for a good portion of the decade. Not a typical midfielder, but a devastingly effective attacker.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99


    No Shuan Goater?

    Fúck this list


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Can't believe Hyypia hasn't been mentioned. He was class defender and played for a good portion of the decade. Started most games from 2000 until 2008 and was excellent. I'd easily have him ahead of Vidic.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99


    Can't believe Hyypia hasn't been mentioned. He was class defender and played for a good portion of the decade. Started most games from 2000 until 2008 and was excellent. I'd easily have him ahead of Vidic.

    Have you ever watched Vidic?!?! One of the best defenders to ever grace the Prem IMO. A monster! Hyypia was good and solid... but Vidic is a class act!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Have you ever watched Vidic?!?! One of the best defenders to ever grace the Prem IMO. A monster! Hyypia was good and solid... but Vidic is a class act!


    Hyypia good and solid? Have you ever watched him play? He's a hell of a lot better then good and solid. Vidic is a good player, but like a lot of players who like a last ditch hollywood tackle they get over-rated a lot. I'd have Hyypia, Carvaliho and Rio ahead of Vidic. Based of the decade I'd also take Terry over im.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,405 ✭✭✭Lukker-


    Lampard in for Gerrard, Ferdinand in for Vidic, Henry in for Shearer


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    almighty1 wrote: »
    Nah I cant see Rio ahead of JT.

    Keane or Vieira ahead of Scholes surely.

    Petr Cech?


    Keane was past his best by 2003. Scholes still had another 3 or 4 world class seasons in him ahead of those 2.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Cech (GK)
    Neville (RB)
    Terry (CB)
    Vidic (CB)
    Cole (LB)
    Beckham (RM)
    Roy Keane (CM)
    Gerrard (CM)
    Giggs (LM)
    Cristiano Ronaldo (RWF)
    Henry (ST)

    IMO.

    Seriously? He played 3 full seasons in the Premiership in the last decade.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,289 ✭✭✭parker kent


    Des wrote: »
    the thing is, Terry & Vidic wouldn't work as a partnership

    Defenders like them need a Rio or a Carvalho beside them, Vidic or Terry to do the swashbuckling, last ditch, hardman stuff, head-in-a-place-most-men-wouldn't-put-their-feet stuff, Rio and Carvalho do the Libero, stride forward with the ball, start passing movements, read the game to stop attacks before they happen kind of stuff.

    Also, my granny would do them both for pace.

    This isn't a real team. No need for it to be exact. A team with 11 stars probably wouldn't work, even if the styles of play suited each other. So there is no need to get caught up in partnerships.

    They are just picking the best 11 players in their positions. Which is obviously impossible given the multitude of formations used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,630 ✭✭✭steelcityblues


    Pires ahead of Giggs IMHO, but I know some will hate me for suggesting that!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,292 ✭✭✭tdv123


    Pires ahead of Giggs IMHO, but I know some will hate me for suggesting that!

    Yep, you'll be getting a few death threats any moment now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,450 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It it has to be 4-4-2 then its the following

    Given
    Finnan
    Campbell
    Vidic
    Cole
    C. Ronaldo----Keane----Lampard----Giggs
    Rooney----Drogba
    Subs: Van der Sar, Carvahlo, Evra, Hyypia, Gerrard, Viera, Henry.

    If its a team of your own choice then its this for me


    Given
    Finnan
    Campbell
    Vidic
    Cole
    Gerrard
    Keane
    Lampard
    Ronaldo
    Drogba
    Rooney

    Its awful, you could change your mind about a hundred times. Hard to leave Henry out but I think Rooney>>>>>>>>>>>>>Henry and Drogba is the big powerful forward.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15


    Can't see how you can justify Given over Cech, VDS or Reina Eagle Eye.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭The Floyd p


    Rooney over Henry

    5637208209_cabb8b9c0a.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Thief


    who'd you have as RB of the decade? Considering consistency has to come in to it.
    aidan24326 wrote: »
    Why would you be laughing at that?? Neville was the most consistent right back of the deacde
    yabadabado wrote: »
    No other RB comes close to him in the past decade.

    I agree that there isn't a candidate that screams out for inclusion when you look at the right back position.

    However, there are at least two players I would have at right back before G Neville.
    1) Steve Finnan - Fantastic for both Fulham & Liverpool. Integral part of both teams for 8 seasons during the decade.
    2) Lauren - Fantastic for Arsenal for 6 seasons of the decade. Made the Arsenal right back spot his own in some great Arsenal teams.

    Neville was useless once he crossed the halfway line. That's unacceptable as a full back imo! Both of these players were both good defenders & great at supporting attacks! Proper fullbacks!
    Neville has a huge medal collection & fair play to him for that. But he wasn't a very talented player imo!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,081 ✭✭✭Fromvert


    Very difficult, a lot of players left out could easily play.

    VDS
    Neville--Ferdinand--Carvalho--Cole
    ---Viera---Keane---Lampard
    Bergkamp
    ---Ronaldo
    Henry---

    Subs: Reina, Finnan, Vidic, Giggs, Gerrard, Drogba, Rooney.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,784 ✭✭✭#15



    Neville was useless once he crossed the halfway line. That's unacceptable as a full back imo! Both of these players were both good defenders & great at supporting attacks! Proper fullbacks!

    Eh, the Neville-Beckham combo on the right was very successful for Utd. Neville's willingness to join in attacks was key to overloading opposition fullbacks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Very surprised that me and Eagle Eye seem to be the only one's who have selected Sol Campbell.


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