Pink Slime - Jamie Oliver.

smiles302

Did anyone watch his show? I just caught up with it on 4od.

He mentioned 70% of beef products are bulked up with this "pink slime" stuff in America.
http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/04/13/jamie-oliver-wants-to-know-why-pink-slime-in-school-lunch/

Is that stuff used in Ireland or only over there?

El_Dangeroso

smiles302 wrote: »

Did anyone watch his show? I just caught up with it on 4od.

He mentioned 70% of beef products are bulked up with this "pink slime" stuff in America.
http://redgreenandblue.org/2011/04/13/jamie-oliver-wants-to-know-why-pink-slime-in-school-lunch/

Is that stuff used in Ireland or only over there?

No, thank god. Greatly increases the risk of food poisoning as someone might cook the steak rare, when ground beef needs to be cooked right through.

Seriously, the things they call food in the US.

Food inc. is a seriously scary glimpse into our future if we're not careful.

smiles302

Phew.

Note to self: Never move state-side. That really is nasty.

Dixie Chick

Yeah, we are so very lucky with our beef here for now. In America the price of Grassfed beef is really high and they pump all their foods with corn starch and other complete nasties, they are screwed for eating clean easily. When i was in iowa with a friend back in 2007 it was really hard to find somewhere besides hige supermarkets that sold fruit or anything unprocessed really

boogle

The idea of ammonia being put onto meat for consumption is just horrific! I remember being in the states for a month and trying to go grocery shopping. Every "supermarket" just had **** processed food and a deli with processed meats. Unmolested fruit and veg was very thin on the ground and really expensive. I was there for a month and put on 7 lbs! I know I was on hols but still...

Mellor

Processed food didn't make you put on 7lbs, eating too much, or eating high calorie foods did.
Processed food is full of crap, but you still need to eat too much to put on weight.

metamorphosis

On a different note, when i was studying over in the states 2 years back, one of the big grocers: stop and shop literally had junk on every isle bar the 2 peripherys, furthest left and furthest right (dairyy wall and fruit and veg), every single other ailse had so much **** food. Even the isle with cleaning products had **** food! Trying to find unsalted nits and unsweetened tinned fruit amazed me. Luckily there was a a wholefoods store there too with decent food aplenty and not overly expensive. Although i prob undid all that with all the beer and odd pizza pie

Khannie

It's a lot easier to overeat in the US though. Portion sizes there are massive and high calorie foods are very cheap.

I was a very skinny lad when I went there on my J1 (like 55KG skinny). I put on around 5KG in the nearly 4 months I was there. I've been 60 or above since. The local Mc Donalds had a hamburger day every week. 25c for a hamburger. 4 burgers for a dollar!

El_Dangeroso

Mellor wrote: »

Processed food didn't make you put on 7lbs, eating too much, or eating high calorie foods did.
Processed food is full of crap, but you still need to eat too much to put on weight.

You should take a look at Stephan's latest series on food reward.

He theorises that processed food is engineered to be hyper-palatable and that raises your bodyfat setpoint which causes you be hungrier and therefore eat more. You can resist your own appetite sure, but willpower runs out eventually.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the countries that eat the most crap food are also the fattest.

This past few weeks I've been eating no processed food at all (I'm not counting or limiting anything) and I'm just not that hungry.

boogle

Mellor wrote: »

Processed food didn't make you put on 7lbs, eating too much, or eating high calorie foods did.
Processed food is full of crap, but you still need to eat too much to put on weight.

Yeah, I'm aware of that. No need for the condescension. My point was that the proliference of high calorie foods, large portion sizes meant that it was easy to go over your calories, especially when plain fruit ang veg aren't served so much (which is what I'm more used to filling up on).

Mellor

El_Dangeroso wrote: »

He theorises that processed food is engineered to be hyper-palatable and that raises your bodyfat setpoint which causes you be hungrier and therefore eat more. You can resist your own appetite sure, but willpower runs out eventually.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the countries that eat the most crap food are also the fattest.

I agee. I think the problem is that it's simply very tasty, yet very calorie dense.
Even though you "should" eat 3/4 of a portion, its simply too hard to stop every time.
If that's the food you live off, then you naturally eat too much.

boogle wrote: »

Yeah, I'm aware of that. No need for the condescension. My point was that the proliference of high calorie foods, large portion sizes meant that it was easy to go over your calories, especially when plain fruit ang veg aren't served so much (which is what I'm more used to filling up on).

I wasn't being condesending. You associated weigt gain with processed food. I said that was the wrong way to look at it. Which it is.

And now you are changing your point, you never mentioned high calorie foods, or large portions in your previous. if you had I would not have disagreed with you.

syklops

Khannie wrote: »

It's a lot easier to overeat in the US though. Portion sizes there are massive and high calorie foods are very cheap.

I was a very skinny lad when I went there on my J1 (like 55KG skinny). I put on around 5KG in the nearly 4 months I was there. I've been 60 or above since. The local Mc Donalds had a hamburger day every week. 25c for a hamburger. 4 burgers for a dollar!

Things are improving though. I was in the states in January for 2 weeks, and I actually lost weight while there because every menu I read, the calories contained in the meal were next to the dish, so it was so easy to track your intake of calories.

I remember being in a place, and was about to add a salad to the order(to be a bit healthier), when I noticed the salad contained an extra 300 caloriies. That pushed the calorie count well over what a normal meal should be. So I didnt have the salad, and my pants were looser when I came home. I wish they had that here. I've no idea how many calories Goulash and dumplings have in them.

rocky

Is this the same thing - meat glue:

http://www.marksdailyapple.com/meat-glue-separating-fact-from-fiction/

syklops

Just watched the first episode of Jamies Food Revolution. Wow. That was an eye opener.

I watched School Dinners a few weeks back, and when he was 6 months into a campaign to improve the food in 20-odd schools in Greenwich and running a restaurant at the same time, he got a bit teary eyed.

3 days into his campaign to improve things in 1 school in America, and he was reduced to tears as it felt like an entire state was ganging up on him. I'm half surprised he didn't jack it in and say F**k you too!

d'Oracle

syklops wrote: »

3 days into his campaign to improve things in 1 school in America, and he was reduced to tears as it felt like an entire state was ganging up on him. I'm half surprised he didn't jack it in and say F**k you too!

That's cos they were.

It was in the news at the time of filming.
He said some stuff about the residents, which didn't get much of an airing.
And to an extent they resented that.

They probably also resented some self important egotistical Limey with an obese tongue telling them how they should eat.

syklops

He managed to talk a lot of the haters around in the end though. More power to him.