That Player and the Super Injunction

OhNoYouDidn't · 23-05-2011 1:03pm #1

The injunction carries no weight in Ireland, or anywhere outside Britain. So why can't we name him? He has been mentioned by name in numerous newspapers, sports websites, forums etc. Why the constraint on boards.ie?

kippy · 23-05-2011 1:07pm

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

So why can't we name him? He has been mentioned by name in numerous newspapers, sports websites, forums etc.

Does that not answer your question?
Seriously, I reckon the owners of the site would prefer not to take the chance - especially if the information is that easily available.

citytillidie · 23-05-2011 1:08pm

Just use his name from Internatinal Superstar Soccer

if i can remember it

robz18 · 23-05-2011 1:09pm

cos hes a good lad

gnolan · 23-05-2011 1:09pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Just use his name from Internatinal Superstar Soccer if i can remember it

Bryan Griggs

Blatter · 23-05-2011 1:09pm

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

The injunction carries no weight in Ireland, or anywhere outside Britain. So why can't we name him? He has been mentioned by name in numerous newspapers, sports websites, forums etc. Why the constraint on boards.ie?

The injunction covers any material that is accessible in the UK.

Zebra3 · 23-05-2011 1:10pm

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

The injunction carries no weight in Ireland, or anywhere outside Britain. So why can't we name him? He has been mentioned by name in numerous newspapers, sports websites, forums etc. Why the constraint on boards.ie?

The injunctions will be all scrapped soon.

It's making the British government too unpopular with powerful sections of the media.

keano_afc · 23-05-2011 1:10pm

Why hasnt he been named in the Irish papers too?

Blatter · 23-05-2011 1:10pm

citytillidie wrote: »

Just use his name from Internatinal Superstar Soccer if i can remember it

Gills:pac:

J. Marston · 23-05-2011 1:10pm

He'll do what he wants, he'll dooo what he waaaaants, he's "PREMIERSHIP ACE/LOVE RAT/FAMILY MAN" and he'll do what he wants!

OhNoYouDidn't · 23-05-2011 1:11pm

kippy wrote: »

Does that not answer your question?
Seriously, I reckon the owners of the site would prefer not to take the chance - especially if the information is that easily available.

But what is 'the chance' they would be taking? I would be breaking no law here if I named him. If, and its a huge if, he took a similar action in the Irish courts as he did in Britain, or wherever the site is hosted, then they can remove any reference.

Blatter · 23-05-2011 1:11pm

Btw, The Sun have apparently gone to the high court this afternoon in an attempt to lift the injunction, anything to do it before the CL final...

OhNoYouDidn't · 23-05-2011 1:12pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Why hasnt he been named in the Irish papers too?

Because they sell in the 6 counties and Britain....

J. Marston · 23-05-2011 1:16pm

I think he'll admit it after the final.

5starpool · 23-05-2011 1:18pm

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

But what is 'the chance' they would be taking? I would be breaking no law here if I named him. If, and its a huge if, he took a similar action in the Irish courts as he did in Britain, or wherever the site is hosted, then they can remove any reference.

Even if the chance is very small, why take the chance at all if there is a risk of legal action being taken? It's not necessarily the injunction that is the issue here, but more to do with the fact that you are publishing what is in essence a rumour that is not fact yet.

If it was your livelyhood/job/company on the line you'd err on the side of caution as well. It's not like every man and his dog doesn't know at this stage, but that's not really the point is it? There is a thread in feedback at the moment that Daragh has posted some thoughts in about this issue that you may be interested in.

Blatter · 23-05-2011 1:18pm

J. Marston wrote: »

I think he'll come out and admit it after the final.

I don't think so, why would he want his name and his families' names all over the newspapers? He'l do everything he can to keep the injunction, how long the injunction lasts is the question.

OhNoYouDidn't · 23-05-2011 1:18pm

Serious question for the Mods.

What would happen to me if I named him?

MUSEIST · 23-05-2011 1:19pm

I am so tempted...:P

Frisbee · 23-05-2011 1:22pm

Unfortunately it may well effect boards.ie. I'm just waiting to hear back from one of the Comm Managers who was in touch with their lawyers regarding whether or not we're allowed to have threads on this.

Will let you guys know as soon as I do.

Frisbee · 23-05-2011 1:23pm

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Serious question for the Mods.

What would happen to me if I named him?

I'm not entirely sure. Nothing really. But if the off off off off off off chance that it came to light then boards could be held liable.

Frisbee · 24-05-2011 8:53am

Ok the lads just got the all clear from the solicitors that's it's cool to talk about it.

Within reason. No jumping to ridiculous conclusions/name calling/making things up etc.

Any of the above will be dealt with harshly as it's still a reasonably delicate subject.

The_Kew_Tour · 24-05-2011 8:54am

*Gets popcorn*

Le King · 24-05-2011 8:58am

Doesn't it still bar the papers from talking about it?

English owned Irish papers.

Het-Field · 24-05-2011 8:59am

For the sake of clarity, and for future reference, it is to be noted that foreign judgements can garner recognition in this jurisdiction.

GavRedKing · 24-05-2011 9:02am

This will not end well.

Anyway, my two cents, it doesnt take away from his ability and his acheivements in the game and how professional he has been throughout his football career.

jaykay74 · 24-05-2011 9:03am

Hope it doesn't affect him on Saturday. Don't give a bollix about the rest of it bar sympathy with his wife/kids.

Handsome Bob · 24-05-2011 9:05am

The way I see it is that there's no point in being smug about it because chances are it could be a player from your team that gets embroiled in this kind of stuff next week.

All you can do is show respect and hope people have the class to return the favour when it's needed.

Ush1 · 24-05-2011 9:07am

LZ5by5 wrote: »

The way I see it is that there's no point in being smug about it because chances are it could be a player from your team that gets embroiled in this kind of stuff next week.

All you can do is show respect and hope people have the class to return the favour when it's needed.

Ha!:pac::pac::pac:

Handsome Bob · 24-05-2011 9:10am

Ush1 wrote: »

Ha!:pac::pac::pac:

What?

SEPT 23 1989 · 24-05-2011 9:13am

Of all the players who have played for Utd through the years he is the one of the players i have least hated

24-05-2011 9:15am

LZ5by5 wrote: »

The way I see it is that there's no point in being smug about it because chances are it could be a player from your team that gets embroiled in this kind of stuff next week.

All you can do is show respect and hope people have the class to return the favour when it's needed.

Isnt it the case that there are shed loads of super injunctions in place in Britain at the minute, many concerning footballers... This is a fun precedent that has been set.

Anyone have any statistics of injunctions in Britain at the minute I think it was reported some time last week

jaykay74 · 24-05-2011 9:16am

101001 wrote: »

Isnt it the case that there are shed loads of super injunctions in place in Britain at the minute, many concerning footballers... This is a fun precedent that has been set.

Anyone have any statistics of injunctions in Britain at the minute I think it was reported some time last week

Most famous one is the Gerard one I think

eigrod · 24-05-2011 9:18am

He was very very badly advised on all of this. It's now getting multiples of the publicity it would've got if her story appeared originally.

Most people don't give a toss about what he did or didn't do in his private life, and those that do generally get bored after a couple of weeks. However, the circus that now surrounds it is giving entertainment to millions.

jester77 · 24-05-2011 9:18am

Remember The Word on C4, anyone around his age would remember it... was I ever so jealous of the lad back then when he was with Dani Behr!

Handsome Bob · 24-05-2011 9:18am

101001 wrote: »

Isnt it the case that there are shed loads of super injunctions in place in Britain at the minute

Well that's it, that's where I am coming from, so anyone who is intent on winding people up here should take a moment for reflection I think.

:pac:

Pepe LeFrits · 24-05-2011 9:24am

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Of all the players who have played for Utd through the years he is the one of the players i have least hated

I didn't mind him until I saw the photo of his smoking hot wife (and the big brother girl) in the paper this morning. Now I hate him :pac:

24-05-2011 9:24am

and what's the story with super-injunctions. How come Giggs got one yet Rooney didnt?

The_Kew_Tour · 24-05-2011 9:26am

101001 wrote: »

and what's the story with super-injunctions. How come Giggs got one yet Rooney didnt?

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Het-Field · 24-05-2011 9:30am

101001 wrote: »

and what's the story with super-injunctions. How come Giggs got one yet Rooney didnt?

The Player, or his representatives sought to take an injunction. Rooney didnt.

Funkfield · 24-05-2011 9:33am

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

:eek:g:eek:i:eek:g:eek:g:eek:s:eek:

:eek:

Mr. Presentable · 24-05-2011 11:13am

101001 wrote: »

and what's the story with super-injunctions. How come Giggs got one yet Rooney didnt?

Rooney has smarter advisers.

What stuns me about this is that so many people think English courts have any juristiction in Ireland.

A Dub in Glasgo · 24-05-2011 11:39am

To correct earlier in the thread, Scotland has a different legal system to the rest of the UK therefore the injunction had no legal sway in Scotland. The only reason the papers in Scotland did not name him is they sell those papers in England.

The Sunday Herald (Glasgow based) printed his picture and named him on sunday after they decided not to distribute the paper to England (they don't sell much down there anyway).

Giggs has been shown up here and he needs to take this on the chin. He should get rid of his advisors pronto.

Yakult · 24-05-2011 12:11pm

No wonder Ryan Giggs is still going at he's age, he's only as young as the women he sleeps with. (28) :pac:

parker kent · 24-05-2011 12:17pm

eigrod wrote: »

He was very very badly advised on all of this. It's now getting multiples of the publicity it would've got if her story appeared originally

I doubt it is multiples of what it would have been. Rooney's had as much publicity. All this has done is save his wife and kid from being in the newspapers every day. Big name players will get massive publicity with stories like this.

gosplan · 24-05-2011 12:31pm

Seriously, who gives a sh1t?

Reganio 2 · 24-05-2011 12:35pm

Its great to see United fans now saying that it dosn't matter

When it was Terry and Gerrard it was the most disgusting thing that could possibly happen in the world ever. But now its just "It means nothing"

parker kent · 24-05-2011 12:38pm

Reganio 2 wrote: »

Its great to see United fans now saying that it dosn't matter When it was Terry and Gerrard it was the most disgusting thing that could possibly happen in the world ever. But now its just "It means nothing"

I think every team has fans that react like that. Same way every team has players that cheat (generalisation but probably true). Not all United fans said that about Terry and Lampard. Not all United fans are reacting in the same way. Sure there'll be people having banter about it, but they realise that soon it'll be some other "love rat" footballer.

eigrod · 24-05-2011 1:16pm

parker kent wrote: »

I doubt it is multiples of what it would have been.

I think it is. It's on the front of the broadsheets today because of the whole injunction/Twitter/legal angles. No way would a footballer having an affair have made the front of the broadsheets.

He's scored a spectacular own goal here, thanks to his advisors.

allthedoyles · 24-05-2011 1:23pm

gosplan wrote: »

Seriously, who gives a sh1t?

Exactly - He has now missed training because of this media circus .

jaykay74 · 24-05-2011 1:26pm

allthedoyles wrote: »

Exactly - He has now missed training because of this media circus .

He is playing in the Gary Neville testimonial tonight. Berba, Scholes and VDS also missed training today. No big deal (but the media would like to portray it as such).

Next up...
Giggs misses training. How will it affect the CL final preparations etc blah blah blah

bobbysands81 · 24-05-2011 1:27pm

keano_afc wrote: »

Why hasnt he been named in the Irish papers too?

Are any of our papers actually "Irish"?

That Player and the Super Injunction

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