Dublin Bus 150 Route

xLollyx

The Dublin Bus Route 150 has changed since the 15th of May.

I used to get it into/home from work every day until we moved offices. It would take me approx 40mins to get home. Leaving work at 5, walking to the nearest stop, waiting for the bus, and then the journey - total time was only about 40mins-50mins max.

Today I had to get this Bus Route home from work for the first time since September. I got on the Bus at 4pm, and I was not off the bus until 5:25pm.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried this new route out for the 150 or if anyone has any complaints about it. My complaint would be that at 4pm there was no traffic on the roads, it shouldn't have taken that long to get home. I'd hate to think what its like at 6pm coming home from work!!

Feckfox

It's like they changed the route just so they could hit every possible speedbump going into town :rolleyes:

delta_bravo

I havent gotten it yet but I presume the biggest problem is Clogher Road? I don't see the logic in the route change. It was a bit circuitous before but now it seems far worse.

Gavin "shels"

delta_bravo wrote: »

I havent gotten it yet but I presume the biggest problem is Clogher Road? I don't see the logic in the route change. It was a bit circuitous before but now it seems far worse.

The reason for the route change was due to the 121 being done with which meant no buses going through The Tenters. So they basically combined the 150 and 121 and made a new route.

LXFlyer

xLollyx wrote: »

The Dublin Bus Route 150 has changed since the 15th of May.

I used to get it into/home from work every day until we moved offices. It would take me approx 40mins to get home. Leaving work at 5, walking to the nearest stop, waiting for the bus, and then the journey - total time was only about 40mins-50mins max.

Today I had to get this Bus Route home from work for the first time since September. I got on the Bus at 4pm, and I was not off the bus until 5:25pm.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has tried this new route out for the 150 or if anyone has any complaints about it. My complaint would be that at 4pm there was no traffic on the roads, it shouldn't have taken that long to get home. I'd hate to think what its like at 6pm coming home from work!!

Yesterday or indeed any day this week is not a sound basis for judging the effectivenss of the bus service.

There were widespead traffic diversions in operation due to the Queen's visit and buses were severely delayed across the network as a result.

Wait until next week after Obama has left and try it again - it certainly should not take much longer than before.

mervuedude

Well I've given it a week and it's a shambles. They moved it off a road with a bus lane to a road with a school and no bus lane (Clogher Road). Then it traverses every mickey mouse road between the canal and the city and gets stuck at the junction of Cork St and the Coombe. Most people on the bus were shaking their heads in disbelief.

Also I've noticed an increasing number of people getting off the bus at "Star Bingo" and crossing over to the Childrens Hospital to hop on a 77 or whatever comes along. Thanks Dublin Bus, you've added an extra 20-30 minutes to my journey each morning and evening.

shadydivott

iv got it a few times recently and it definatly adds over 20mins on trip even off peek....all the corners and stopping and starting it made me feel sea sick

cosmic

shadydivott wrote: »

all the corners and stopping and starting it made me feel sea sick

Ha! I bet the speed ramps and horribly damaged road surfaces in the Tenters don't help I'm well used to that now from the 121 but still, on a hungover morning, it can get you!

Kensington

It's absolutely diabolical. I'm glad I don't rely full time on the bus anymore.

Some of the roads are unbelievable, plenty of "No, no, he can't POSSIBLY be going to turn into that road!" moments. And the number of junctions where if one bus meets another going the opposite way, there's not a snowball's chance in hell they're going to get past one another.

I feel for the drivers on that route...

Corruptedmorals

It was like a scenic tour of Dublin housing, was sure it was about to drive across gardens at some point. It's a bus I get to my friend's house so I'm not well used to it..paranoid the whole way until I saw Crumlin village. Bit of a mad route change alright.

LXFlyer

Kensington wrote: »

It's absolutely diabolical. I'm glad I don't rely full time on the bus anymore.

Some of the roads are unbelievable, plenty of "No, no, he can't POSSIBLY be going to turn into that road!" moments. And the number of junctions where if one bus meets another going the opposite way, there's not a snowball's chance in hell they're going to get past one another.

I feel for the drivers on that route...

DB were going to remove the service from The Tenters area of the liberties, but the locals complained.

shadydivott

gov want us to use public transport.....i did use 150 bus but its back to the car from now on

ankles

It used to be a reasonable service, but now I walk to Templeogue. A service destroyed. Wait now until Dublin Bus move its terminus closer to Crumlin because no one takes it all the way to Willington anymore. That's because it would be quicker to walk the direct route from town than endure this tour of south inner city Dublin.

LXFlyer

ankles wrote: »

It used to be a reasonable service, but now I walk to Templeogue. A service destroyed. Wait now until Dublin Bus move its terminus closer to Crumlin because no one takes it all the way to Willington anymore. That's because it would be quicker to walk the direct route from town than endure this tour of south inner city Dublin.

How much longer is it taking? Where is the holdup?

DB is caught between a rock and a hard place here - they have to cut costs, hence the merger with the 121.

However, at the same time there were howls of protest in the Tenters when it was announced that the buses were being removed from the area.

Hence DB had to change the plan and reroute the 150 via that area.

shadydivott

its taking 20 mins longer at least.....holdups at kildare rd clougher rd and tenters on way in and out.....i think main problem is that it meanders around the tenters area and clougher rd where in the past it just went up crumlin rd.....the service is no use to anyone traveling from orwell to city anymore......walk to templeogue and get a diff bus....or just drive

delta_bravo

ankles wrote: »

It used to be a reasonable service, but now I walk to Templeogue. A service destroyed. Wait now until Dublin Bus move its terminus closer to Crumlin because no one takes it all the way to Willington anymore. That's because it would be quicker to walk the direct route from town than endure this tour of south inner city Dublin.

Initially I found it bad but the route is no slower than the old route. Although some of the roads are borderline passable (O'Donovan road is too narrow for buses) you skip all the traffic on the Crumlin road which was a big bottleneck.

I usually cycle into work but I would get the bus from Terminus to Terminus at peak times and I find it takes approx 40-50 minutes (getting the 5.10 bus to Rossmore) and about the same going into town (7.50 bus into Fleet Street)

Shaydivott I live in Orwell and I would still get the 150 over walking into the village. 15 buses are no more regular than the 150. Also, in the past it did not just "go up Crumlin Road". That road is particularly bad for traffic, as is the multitude of traffic lights along Cork Street.

shadydivott

delta bravo you make a good point about crumlin rd and cork st......however its the fact that you are just drifting around the tenters like a lost culchie tryin to get to croker that gets me.....it is defo a longer trip ....maybe not as noticable at peek times....but with a few pints on board at 10pm not good....

LXFlyer

By the sounds of things this is more a perception thing than reality in terms of the bus taking longer at peak times.

killbillvol2

shadydivott wrote: »

its taking 20 mins longer at least.....holdups at kildare rd clougher rd and tenters on way in and out.....i think main problem is that it meanders around the tenters area and clougher rd where in the past it just went up crumlin rd.....the service is no use to anyone traveling from orwell to city anymore......walk to templeogue and get a diff bus....or just drive

How could it be held up in the Tenters? There's no traffic and it just passes through.Drifting around the tenters? It goes through in about 3 minute!

Gavin "shels"

lxflyer wrote: »

By the sounds of things this is more a perception thing than reality in terms of the bus taking longer at peak times.

This and...

killbillvol2 wrote: »

How could it be held up in the Tenters? There's no traffic and it just passes through.Drifting around the tenters? It goes through in about 3 minute!

This.

Back in the 121 days you might have got a bit of a traffic jam on Donore Ave leading up to the SCR but that's rare these days. And well you'd be lucky to count 10 cars driving from when you get onto Ardee St to the top of Donore Ave.

shadydivott

there is a bus lane each direction from st lukes ave to the barn.......its called a bus lane for a reason......the gov spend a lot of money developing bus lanes and cause a lot of disruption to all kinds of traffic in doing so and when they complete them they divert the busses away...... god forbid someone mite hae to walk from donore ave to cork st to have a choice of about 12 busses

Gavin "shels"

shadydivott wrote: »

there is a bus lane each direction from st lukes ave to the barn.......its called a bus lane for a reason......the gov spend a lot of money developing bus lanes and cause a lot of disruption to all kinds of traffic in doing so and when they complete them they divert the busses away...... god forbid someone mite hae to walk from donore ave to cork st to have a choice of about 12 busses

Isn't the whole point of numerous bus routes is to accomdate as many people as possibly, having 6 or however many there are, go down Cork St isn't pratical imo.

Plus on a side note, The Tenters Assiocation fought for years to get the 121 route which started off with the old IMP Bus, and then again fought to get the 150 to go through the area. The Tenters houses a large number of elderly people so go and tell them to walk to Cork St to get a bus.

killbillvol2

shadydivott wrote: »

there is a bus lane each direction from st lukes ave to the barn.......its called a bus lane for a reason......the gov spend a lot of money developing bus lanes and cause a lot of disruption to all kinds of traffic in doing so and when they complete them they divert the busses away...... god forbid someone mite hae to walk from donore ave to cork st to have a choice of about 12 busses

Yes, there are plenty of buses running along Cork Street - not a lot of people living on Cork Street nowadays though. Changing one bus route to run through a built up area (and allowing them to save money by dropping another) is hardly a big deal except to people exaggerating the extra time it takes.

Gavin shels wrote: »

Isn't the whole point of numerous bus routes is to accomdate as many people as possibly, having 6 or however many there are, go down Cork St isn't pratical imo.

Plus on a side note, The Tenters Assiocation fought for years to get the 121 route which started off with the old IMP Bus, and then again fought to get the 150 to go through the area. The Tenters houses a large number of elderly people so go and tell them to walk to Cork St to get a bus.

The retention of a bus route was really down to those elderly people - my neighbours were up in arms and refused to take it lying down.

Personally, I rarely used the 121 because it was so infrequent. I use the150 very regularly.

Gavin "shels"

killbillvol2 wrote: »

The retention of a bus route was really down to those elderly people - my neighbours were up in arms and refused to take it lying down.

Personally, I rarely used the 121 because it was so infrequent. I use the150 very regularly.

Not all elderly people, my mother was around in the Youth Centre giving it loads at the meeting.:D

150 is a great bus imo, gets me from Donore Ave to work in Ashleaf SC in 12 mins or thereabouts. And into town in about 15 mins.

killbillvol2

Gavin shels wrote: »

Not all elderly people, my mother was around in the Youth Centre giving it loads at the meeting.:D

150 is a great bus imo, gets me from Donore Ave to work in Ashleaf SC in 12 mins or thereabouts. And into town in about 15 mins.

Apologies for prematurely aging your mother

Let`s just say it wasn't the youth of the area who kicked up a stink!

shadydivott

it must have been nice to be asked for your opinion by dublin bus and to have local meetings in relation to the changes. out here in the sticks we were told nothing and the changes were made without consultation

Gavin "shels"

shadydivott wrote: »

it must have been nice to be asked for your opinion by dublin bus and to have local meetings in relation to the changes. out here in the sticks we were told nothing and the changes were made without consultation

We weren't so much asked it was moreso residents got onto our local politicians who arranged the meeting with Dublin Bus, the Tenters Association probably helped too. It's called being pro-active did you attempt to get onto your local politicians with regards to this?

Think something similar happened in Inchicore with regards to the 19 bus aswell, the locals and the local politicians got a meeting with Dublin Bus and as of now the bus is still going the same route.

cosmic

Gavin shels wrote: »

Think something similar happened in Inchicore with regards to the 19 bus aswell, the locals and the local politicians got a meeting with Dublin Bus and as of now the bus is still going the same route.

Same thing happened in Artane/Beaumont. They tried to get rid of the 20b but all the locals went mental. So the route remains the same, except it's now called the 14 and goes all the way to Dundrum too.

shadydivott

Gavin shels wrote: »

We weren't so much asked it was moreso residents got onto our local politicians who arranged the meeting with Dublin Bus, the Tenters Association probably helped too. It's called being pro-active did you attempt to get onto your local politicians with regards to this?

Think something similar happened in Inchicore with regards to the 19 bus aswell, the locals and the local politicians got a meeting with Dublin Bus and as of now the bus is still going the same route.

if you read my post i said we were told nothing the change just happened.....there was no mention of it, it just happened

Gavin "shels"

shadydivott wrote: »

if you read my post i said we were told nothing the change just happened.....there was no mention of it, it just happened

Well I know on the 121 route in the 2 weeks leading up to it's final journey Dublin Bus were handing out flyers on the buses during rush hour about alternative routes and the new 150.

LXFlyer

shadydivott wrote: »

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

We weren't so much asked it was moreso residents got onto our local politicians who arranged the meeting with Dublin Bus, the Tenters Association probably helped too. It's called being pro-active did you attempt to get onto your local politicians with regards to this?

Think something similar happened in Inchicore with regards to the 19 bus aswell, the locals and the local politicians got a meeting with Dublin Bus and as of now the bus is still going the same route.

if you read my post i said we were told nothing the change just happened.....there was no mention of it, it just happened

There was a full consultation process on the Dublin Bus website, the plans were advertised in local papers and they held several meetings.

All of this took place over a month and a half before the changes took place.

shadydivott

lxflyer wrote: »

There was a full consultation process on the Dublin Bus website, the plans were advertised in local papers and they held several meetings.

All of this took place over a month and a half before the changes took place.

which local papers and where were the meetings held

LXFlyer

I can't recall specific locations - but there were at least 4 meetings advertised on the website along with full details of the changes planned for the Crumlin Road services.

shadydivott

none around here im afraid.......the obvious thing to do was advertise the changes on the bus itself...or at the bus stops which the route serves.....

Gavin "shels"

shadydivott wrote: »

none around here im afraid.......the obvious thing to do was advertise the changes on the bus itself...or at the bus stops which the route serves.....

They did on the 121, surprised they didn't on the 150 tbh.

shadydivott

anyway thats it im stuck with it.....ill know the tenters like the back of my hand.....anyone know any busses around templeogue/terenure/greenhills etc that link up with luas line....that mite solve my problem

Conor Bourke

Just hopped on the 19.50 service at Rossmore/Orwell this minute. I live round the corner from the stop/start point and more often than not when I pass there's a bus stopped waiting to start the next service. Does that mean there's an overlap or that some drivers get through the route too quickly? I take this bus at different times of day and it's never taken much more than 40 minutes from start to finish.

On a side note, my driver seems to be nuts- he drove out in front of a car at the junction of Rossmore Road/Willington lane causing them to brake quite hard and is BOMBING it over the ramps.

LXFlyer

Alaskimo-cake wrote: »

Just hopped on the 19.50 service at Rossmore/Orwell this minute. I live round the corner from the stop/start point and more often than not when I pass there's a bus stopped waiting to start the next service. Does that mean there's an overlap or that some drivers get through the route too quickly? I take this bus at different times of day and it's never taken much more than 40 minutes from start to finish.

On a side note, my driver seems to be nuts- he drove out in front of a car at the junction of Rossmore Road/Willington lane causing them to brake quite hard and is BOMBING it over the ramps.

Bus timetables always have a little extra time built into them to allow for unexpected delays.

A good timetable generally allows about 5% extra time for such issues. Hence most of the time you will see the buses waiting at termini because they had no problems.

Gavin "shels"

shadydivott wrote: »

ill know the tenters like the back of my hand

Lucky you!:cool:

shadydivott

Gavin shels wrote: »

Lucky you!:cool:

and burglaries will increase around here.......just like when the dart started........

DubRos

Gavin shels wrote: »

We weren't so much asked it was moreso residents got onto our local politicians who arranged the meeting with Dublin Bus, the Tenters Association probably helped too. It's called being pro-active did you attempt to get onto your local politicians with regards to this?

Think something similar happened in Inchicore with regards to the 19 bus aswell, the locals and the local politicians got a meeting with Dublin Bus and as of now the bus is still going the same route.

Well the 19 is done for now, gone as of the 28th of August. Dublin Bus were never going to back down on that, especially after they changed the 122 route.

Gavin "shels"

My mothers been told twice by two different people that they might be doing away with the 150, anyone else hear this? My guess is they'd join the 151/150 together if anything happens!

LXFlyer

I doubt it. That would leave a large part of south Crumlin without a bus service.

delta_bravo

Several local papers have published articles saying the number of services will be halved.

LXFlyer

Well that could mean a reduction in the timetable - if people are not using it, the services need to be cut to a level that does meet the demand. The days of running buses around carrying thin air are over.

delta_bravo

lxflyer wrote: »

Well that could mean a reduction in the timetable - if people are not using it, the services need to be cut to a level that does meet the demand. The days of running buses around carrying thin air are over.

Yeah I would agree with that. For a while I used it fairly regularly. Passenger numbers dropped off rapidly around 2009. Most likely due to less people working.

However one of the problems with the route I think is the number of stops, it seems to me it has too many stops. The crossroads at the Submarine bar is a big choke point, the bus pulls in to stop 20 yards before the lights and cars end up overtaking it leaving no room for it to pull out and by the time it gets to the lights they're red meaning about a 3-4 minute delay. Even though there is another stop immediately after the lights.

A similar thing happens before the big junction at the Star Bingo where the lights only seem to be green for 20 seconds at a time. This means that even at quiet times the bus can take almost an hour to get into town. Some people in my part of Templeogue prefer to get a 54a or 15a in. The only advantage the 150 had over those routes in the past was it was generally more reliable but that seems to have decreased in the past year.

Gavin "shels"

lxflyer wrote: »

Well that could mean a reduction in the timetable - if people are not using it, the services need to be cut to a level that does meet the demand. The days of running buses around carrying thin air are over.

Yupp definitely, I get the 150 to and from work at all times of the day and it does be empty at times, on it today from Donore Ave to Submarine Bar and there was about 5 people downstairs and probably not much more upstairs.

LXFlyer

I can't see the route being cancelled but I can see frequency being cut if that's the case.

Pandoras Twist

I don't find the route that bad at all. Takes about 30 mins to get into town from Willington Roundabout, getting the bus at 8.10, obviously theres less traffic with it being summer.

I can get the 15a, 54a and the 150. I always get whichever one comes first as the difference between them all is only about 10 mins

shadydivott

Pandoras Twist wrote: »

I don't find the route that bad at all. Takes about 30 mins to get into town from Willington Roundabout, getting the bus at 8.10, obviously theres less traffic with it being summer.

I can get the 15a, 54a and the 150. I always get whichever one comes first as the difference between them all is only about 10 mins

15A from willington roundabout ?????? News to me!!!!

KD345

shadydivott wrote: »

15A from willington roundabout ?????? News to me!!!!

Pandoras Twist didn't specifically say the 15A serves Willington Roundabout. They said the journey time of the 150 from Willington Roundabout is about 30 minutes.

When the poster mentioned the buses they can get, I'm assuming they were referring to the stop on Willington Lane, for the 15A, 54A and 150.