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Is a Fry still a Fry If It's Ingredients Aren't Fried?

  • 18-05-2011 12:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭


    A friend and I had a drunken argument about this a few days ago, and it was never really resolved.

    I had just made, and was about to indulge myself in eating, what I consider, a fry. Because I had cooked everything, minus the eggs, on the grill my friend argued that what I was eating was not a fry.

    My argument is that, although the ingredients to my meal were not cooked on a frying pan, the meal as a whole (rashers, sausages, eggs, pudding, toast etc.) is generally called a "fry".

    What say ye?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 281 ✭✭AlkalineAcid


    It becomes a grill.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,383 ✭✭✭emeraldstar


    I don't think it 'becomes' one, as it never was anything but a grill... :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    A mixed up fry......aka...... A Mixed Grill!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭thehairyelbow


    Ah no. Has to be done in the pan, no, no, no.... the grill is only for warming your jocks on a cold morning


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 poppylady


    I agree its a grill could even be classed as a mixed grill but most importantly its doesn't taste as nice as the real thing i.e. a fry


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    Not a fry. From now on listen to your friend. He is clearly smarter than you.


  • Site Banned Posts: 328 ✭✭michelledoh


    Isn my opinion Fry is more the name of the "dish" (for lack of a better word) than the adjective describing the action. I always cook my fry up under the grill!

    If you can't resolve the arguement, go posh and call it an "Irish Breakfast"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 330 ✭✭Dexterm99


    My argument is that, although the ingredients to my meal were not cooked on a frying pan, the meal as a whole (rashers, sausages, eggs, pudding, toast etc.) is generally called a "fry".

    What say ye?

    'fry' could be short for 'fry-up' which you didnt have'.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,808 ✭✭✭✭chin_grin


    It becomes a George Foreman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Hmm i dont think it counts, like my mother likes to cook a fry in the oven, but im like thats not a fry because your not frying anything !! also it doesnt taste as good :mad:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    chin_grin wrote: »
    It becomes a George Foreman.


    George Foremans are a Fry's enemy and should be avoided at all costs!!!

    Dried out sausages, Tsk!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    Hmm i dont think it counts, like my mother likes to cook a fry in the oven, but im like thats not a fry because your not frying anything !! also it doesnt taste as good :mad:


    Roast sausages????


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    Hmm i dont think it counts, like my mother likes to cook a fry in the oven, but im like thats not a fry because your not frying anything !! also it doesnt taste as good :mad:

    That's a bake.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    To me a "fry" refers breakfast of sausages, rasher etc regardless of being done in the grill or the pan. I find it much easier to use the grill than the pan and its probably nicer due to being less greasy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭stimpson


    To me a "fry" refers breakfast of sausages, rasher etc regardless of being done in the grill or the pan. I find it much easier to use the grill than the pan and its probably nicer due to being less greasy.

    How the fup do you grill an egg?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    if I walk to the shops, can I be considered a motorist?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,791 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    It's still a fry.

    The ingredients are obv the important element, not the cooking method.

    If I throw a load of broccoli, bananas, a turnip and a packet of ham onto a frying pan is that a fry?

    No.

    Sausages, rashers, pudding etc = fry, regardless of cooking method.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭stimpson


    keane2097 wrote: »
    It's still a fry.

    The ingredients are obv the important element, not the cooking method.

    If I throw a load of broccoli, bananas, a turnip and a packet of ham onto a frying pan is that a fry?

    No.

    Sausages, rashers, pudding etc = fry, regardless of cooking method.

    So do you have that with steamed toast?

    If it's not made in a pan it's not fried. It's a mixed grill ffs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭jester77


    That would be a grill... the health conscious mans fry up, in other words a poor substitute. It's the equivalent of putting Dairygold on your toast instead of Kerrygold.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,791 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    stimpson wrote: »
    So do you have that with steamed toast?

    If it's not made in a pan it's not fried. It's a mixed grill ffs.

    No a mixed grill is a similar dish but it includes stuff like lamb chops (or a steak if you're feeling risky), tomatoes, mushrooms, chips etc.


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  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    stimpson wrote: »
    How the fup do you grill an egg?

    Eggs would obviously be still fried.

    As an aside Steak is the most thing that benefits from being fired imo, its way ahead of grilled steak.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭thehairyelbow


    I'd murder one now, fried or grilled...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    keane2097 wrote: »
    No a mixed grill is a similar dish but it includes stuff like lamb chops (or a steak if you're feeling risky), tomatoes, mushrooms, chips etc.

    But I have mushrooms and tomatoes in a fry up.

    Sorry op, not a fry, its definitely a grill, healthier, yes, tastier, no.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,880 ✭✭✭ArtyM


    Breakfast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,488 ✭✭✭Bazzy


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Is a post op transsexual a woman?:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,333 ✭✭✭RichieC


    Grilling fry material is six years mandatory in richieville.


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Sausages in the deep fat fryer, rashers on a tray in the microwave, pudding in the George Forman grill. Now that's how you do a fry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,774 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    done on pan = fry

    done on grill = grill

    /thread


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    No, of course not, what you have done is just boiled everything without using water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,834 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Sausages in the deep fat fryer, rashers on a tray in the microwave, pudding in the George Forman grill. Now that's how you do a fry!

    Kill the blasphemer!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 187 ✭✭WopTittyPop


    keane2097 wrote: »
    It's still a fry.

    The ingredients are obv the important element, not the cooking method.

    If I throw a load of broccoli, bananas, a turnip and a packet of ham onto a frying pan is that a fry?

    No.

    Sausages, rashers, pudding etc = fry, regardless of cooking method.

    I made almost the exact same point in the argument.

    Another point he had was that all food in a "fry" has to be cooked on a frying pan. From what I know, the majority like a good oul' slice or two of toast with their fry. Does having toast make the fry no longer a fry?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 30,976 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    stimpson wrote: »
    Kill the blasphemer!

    :pac:

    The sausages actually work great that way. But yes, a proper fry is a frying-pan affair.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 195 ✭✭lilblackdress


    To me a "fry" refers breakfast of sausages, rasher etc regardless of being done in the grill or the pan. I find it much easier to use the grill than the pan and its probably nicer due to being less greasy.

    Is it bad that i think a greasy fry is yummy...... much more yum than grilled sausages and rashers!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    It's not called a fry in the first place, if you go out foreign it's called an Irish breakfast so here it's just known as breakfast.

    Calling something a fry means it was fried. You can't have a fry if you grill something just like you can't call roasted vegetables roasted vegetables if you boil them and you don't get a stir fry from out of the grill.

    The clue is name damnit people.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    I made almost the exact same point in the argument.

    Another point he had was that all food in a "fry" has to be cooked on a frying pan. From what I know, the majority like a good oul' slice or two of toast with their fry. Does having toast make the fry no longer a fry?

    I prefer fried bread with a fry up:) If I have toast, then its an added extra, not part of the fry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    I shallow/deep fry practically nothing at home. I grill my sausages and rashers but do fry my egg in a drizzle of oil.

    Then I put it all on the plate atop a sheet of kitchen paper to absorb as much grease as possible.

    No where near as tasty as the real thing, but better for the ticker.

    But if you don't fry all the core ingredients, you can't call it "a fry".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,448 ✭✭✭✭Cupcake_Crisis


    My mam cooks it in the oven....what does that make it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    My mam cooks it in the oven....what does that make it?
    Wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Chris P. Bacon


    Sausages in the deep fat fryer, rashers on a tray in the microwave, pudding in the George Forman grill. Now that's how you do a fry!

    Microwave rashers!!..well i never :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭thehairyelbow


    Microwave rashers!!..well i never :eek:
    You'd prefer them well done I reckon


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    Microwave rashers!!..well i never :eek:

    A microwave would surely make soggy rashers and not crispy bacon?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,808 ✭✭✭Chris P. Bacon


    KungPao wrote: »
    A microwave would surely make soggy rashers and not crispy bacon?

    Exactly what i was thinking :)


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't say it's not a fry to grill some of it... But it's not as good. The most important things to fry are the rashers, mushrooms, onions and pudding. Logistical reasons mean that the sausages often got done on the grill but they're not as important imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 796 ✭✭✭TheBunk1


    Its a not a bloody fry if its grilled!

    And toast is merely an accompaniment to the fry, not an integral part of the main dish.


  • Posts: 24,713 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Well since I was a child we have had a "fry" every Saturday and Sunday morning and everything bar the eggs are grilled.

    I dont think dripping in oil adds anything to the flavour tbh, for sausages and rashers the grill is better imo.

    The real blasphemy is people using ketchup on their breakfast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 424 ✭✭FinnLizzy


    Irish people have this problem of naming things:
    Tayto = Crisps, regardless of whether the brand is Tayto or not
    Quinnsworth = What old people call Tesco
    Fry = even if its a dried out ****ty excuse of a grilled breakfast

    If you want to be healthy, do it on your own time, and give me real food, shplattergunned with grease!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    1) Turn the cooker and grill (warming) on
    2) Add oil to FRYING pan
    3) Cook sausages, pudding and tomatoes (optional) until a lovely brown
    4) Once cooked put under a low setting grill to keep warm
    5) Cook bacon to crispiness level of choice. Keep warm in grill.
    6) Cook mushrooms (optional) and stick kettle on.
    7) Warm teapot. Stick kettle on again. Add 3 teabags, boiled water.
    8) Get fresh pan and add oil. Once hot add eggs. Put toast on
    9) Dish out fry.

    ENJOY


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    6) Cook mushrooms (optional) and stick kettle on.
    7) Warm teapot. Stick kettle on again. Add 3 teabags, boiled water.
    Boiling the kettle twice? Not only is your energy consumption a kick in the face to poor old mother nature and you electricity bill boiling water twice ruins the water for tea making.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Only if someone's there to hear it fall.


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