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Trying to register .ie domain

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    So, I want to register a .ie domain for a "business" idea. The idea is the website will offer a service which in itself is free, but that as part of the service, visitors will be linked to products made available through affiliate programs. It's not really an out-and-out business venture as much as it's an attempt to make some money from an idea and avail of affiliate programs.

    So, looking at some of the domain registering sites, would I be listing myself as a private individual, or do I have to list as a sole trader? Also, everywhere seems to want a letter as well; does an e-mail count? I can put my signature into the email, but do they need a physical page of paper? Do I HAVE to register a business name to register a .ie which will possibly involve business? What's the most hassle-free way of getting the .ie without actually damaging my venture? (Not a laziness thing, btw. Just want to make sure I do everything right and don't overcomplicate things).

    I've registered .com before so this aspect of getting a domain is new to me. Sorry for the n00b questions :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    I think the whole .ie thing is a bit messy, as in you have to use your real name when registering,
    That is sort of unfair as your name will appear in whois info for your domain name,
    Although i did ask letshost .ie about this and they said you could use your business name.

    I'm listed as a sole trader as i don't have a registered business, it's just another web project to me,
    What i did was buy a business name from cro.ie for 20 euro, they send you a certificate,
    That way you have some info that you will use when registering your irish domain name.

    Yes they want a letter from you explaining what you will be using your irish domain for.
    You can write up a letter explaining your plans for the domain name and email that to them, include your business name number.
    It's not as straight forward as registering any other domain but it's not difficult to get a .ie

    I have a reseller hosting account for years, i reged a .ie for that later on so basically that domain.ie is my hosting site,
    When i reg a new .ie i say the new .ie will be hosted byy the other .ie which is my web hosting site, well it worked for me.
    They ask you for a letter every time you reg a .ie lets say host.ie is your first domain name and you have that connected to
    a reseller hosting plan for like 20 per month, that's what i had, then you say in your letter that host.ie will be providing the
    hosting for newdomain.ie and that seems to be enough info for your letter.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    You can register a discretionary domain name without needing to jump through many hoops. A discretionary domain name also means there is no need to register a business name.

    Hosting is entirely irrelevant to the process of registering a .ie domain name.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    Graham wrote: »
    Hosting is entirely irrelevant to the process of registering a .ie domain name.

    No it isn't
    You cannot register a .ie domain name unless its DNS is properly configured in advance.
    Unfortunately this can be an issue and the domain(s) will not be registered until it is resolved


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    If you don't expect tons of traffic, even if you do get a lot of traffic, i could cut you a cheap deal on hosting under a .ie
    That's one way you can say in your letter your .ie is hosted by a .ie, i have servers in the us with cpanel hosting panel.
    All i need to know is your domain name and how much web space, we do 10 gigs monthly bandwidth per 1 gig web space.
    I didn't say it's the only way to get a .ie but it did help me get my .ie quicker, shout me if interested.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    Blacknight wrote: »
    No it isn't
    You cannot register a .ie domain name unless its DNS is properly configured in advance.
    Unfortunately this can be an issue and the domain(s) will not be registered until it is resolved

    DNS is an issue, agreed.

    I'll clarify:

    Having a reseller account selling cheap hosting last time you managed to register a .ie is not relevant.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    Graham wrote: »
    DNS is an issue, agreed.
    Good :)
    Graham wrote: »
    I'll clarify:

    Having a reseller account selling cheap hosting last time you managed to register a .ie is not relevant.

    Yeah, that's a total non-sequitur


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,454 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Hey guys, thanks for the response.

    Blacknight just emailed me to let me know my application for my .ie domain name has been accepted :) So now the fun part starts of designing the website and trying to make it presentable.

    Blacknight rep (and Sounds too, since he offered), slightly OT, but do you guys facilitate Wordpress instillation, yeah? It's what I know so would like to use it at least starting off.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    Blacknight rep (and Sounds too, since he offered), slightly OT, but do you guys facilitate Wordpress instillation, yeah? It's what I know so would like to use it at least starting off.

    If you host with us you get access to an auto-installer, though you'll have more control over it if you do a "normal" manual install


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    Yes you'd have admin access to cPanel hosting account, www.cpanel.net
    Our dedicated servers are at bluemile data center in salt lake city USA.
    cPanel has softaculous built in so wordpress is just a one click install. www.softaculous.com
    Don't know what you're building but i think 500 mb or 1 gig space would be plenty for a small or medium site.

    What i meant about reseller hosting was, when i started out i use to buy hosting accounts, 10 or 15 dollars per month,
    I decided that having a reseller hosting account worked out better, i could create lots of hosting accounts for myself and others, for 20 per month.
    I used that to connect my first .ie to my first server, and when they asked what the connection was, i would say mysite.ie is providing hosting for new.ie
    And my applications were approved.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,403 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    If I had a hardware shop called Jim's Hardware and a website up and running called jimshardware.ie for example and decided to specialise in the selling of timber and I wanted to set up a website called timber.ie would this be possible?

    Should I go and register this business name with the CRO in order to help my case in getting the domain name timber.ie ????


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    If you already have a .ie then there is nothing stopping you registering another right?
    I think if you have a biz name already then that is enough to register another, using that business number.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    vicwatson wrote: »
    If I had a hardware shop called Jim's Hardware and a website up and running called jimshardware.ie for example and decided to specialise in the selling of timber and I wanted to set up a website called timber.ie would this be possible?

    Should I go and register this business name with the CRO in order to help my case in getting the domain name timber.ie ????
    You *could* register the generic term, but you'd need to provide documentation explaining the "connection"
    Generally speaking, if you have a registered business name (or an LTD) you can use the "discretionary" category to register alternative domain names that are connected to your business but that aren't partial or exact matches of the business / company name
    Having said that, registering a business name isn't much work and if you want to trade using timber.ie (as an example) having the registered business wouldn't hurt


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,640 ✭✭✭podge57


    I have a website set up, I already have the .com domain, but it's mainly geared towards Ireland so I want to use the .ie

    I'm not selling anything though, is it still necessary to register as a business?

    (the site isn't in my own name...)


    edit: think if I select "discretionary name" and I am applying as a "natural person", I might just need to send a letter and proof of address


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    podge57 wrote: »
    I have a website set up, I already have the .com domain, but it's mainly geared towards Ireland so I want to use the .ie

    I'm not selling anything though, is it still necessary to register as a business?

    (the site isn't in my own name...)


    edit: think if I select "discretionary name" and I am applying as a "natural person", I might just need to send a letter and proof of address

    A letter and a copy of an Irish ID (passport, driving license etc) along with a screenshot of the website you intend to run on the domain are usually sufficient.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 TonyMCI


    What if you where to buy the .com domain name of your company first and use Geo targeting in web master tools to target Ireland , and later down the line get the .ie domain name and redirect it to your .com domain name ? Any thoughts .


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,739 ✭✭✭mneylon


    TonyMCI wrote: »
    What if you where to buy the .com domain name of your company first and use Geo targeting in web master tools to target Ireland , and later down the line get the .ie domain name and redirect it to your .com domain name ? Any thoughts .

    There's no reason why you couldn't do that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 TonyMCI


    Cheers thanks for the reply


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,961 ✭✭✭893bet


    Looking at this also. Might just be easier take a .com name. The .ie name is perfect though.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,642 Mod ✭✭✭✭Graham


    893bet wrote: »
    Looking at this also. Might just be easier take a .com name. The .ie name is perfect though.

    What's stopping you getting the .ie, it's not difficult any more. Look at the discretionary names category if you're not yet ready to commit to registering a business.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 252 ✭✭A Greedy Algorithm


    Can some one push me in the right direction,

    I want to make a simple enough website for a company, in order to do this i must register a domain name and also pay for hosting is this correct? The site itself is not selling any goods, it is merely for informational purposes.


  • Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    Hi,

    You need a domain name first, if it's a .ie domain name,
    You could purchase a cheap web hosting package with the domain from the same providers.
    If you're planning on doing websites for other companies, I recommend the reseller package.
    That way you can create your own cPanel web hosting accounts for multiple domains for cheap, 20$ per month.

    I discovered if I create a cPanel hosting account for a domain name I haven't bought yet,
    By the time I register a domain and set its dns records to the server that cPanel account is on,
    The domain name propagates almost instantly! It can take up to 48 hours to propagate fully.