Garage equipment

robtri

Was thinkign the other day, I would not mind getting a car lift, be nice for working on the car... so have been having a look around at a lot of 2 post car lifts.

I have gotten prices for new ones from a good few places.

Just curious with all the garage closures ... anyone know where the equipment is being sold?? might pick up a very good second hand unit??

Pete67

Keep an eye on the auction sites, for example:

http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/dublincommercials.asp


http://www.wilsonsauctions.com/upload/dublincommercials24372.JPG

You may need a three phase supply for these.

Nissan doctor

Have you tried redmount.ie, I have one of their 2 post lifts the last 3 years without issue.

robtri

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Have you tried redmount.ie, I have one of their 2 post lifts the last 3 years without issue.

yeah redmont is top of my list at the min, he has some really nice units at great prices....
nice to get a recomendation like that.. cheers PD

kildarelad

I did what your trying to do and went to alot of auctions to try and buy second hand lifts in the end i end i found they fetch to much at auctions and were making to close to what they are new.I bought a brand new one before Christmas off Pj Fallon www.red.ie and have found my Phoenix 4 ton lift a brilliant one and was very reasonable at 1700 brand new

galwaytt

Nissan doctor wrote: »

Have you tried redmount.ie, I have one of their 2 post lifts the last 3 years without issue.

kildarelad wrote: »

I did what your trying to do and went to alot of auctions to try and buy second hand lifts in the end i end i found they fetch to much at auctions and were making to close to what they are new.I bought a brand new one before Christmas off Pj Fallon www.red.ie and have found my Phoenix 4 ton lift a brilliant one and was very reasonable at 1700 brand new

A subject dear to my heart, tools.

I've been thinking the same thing to, btw - can I ask about the ones ye got: I know they're CE-marked, but are they EU, or China-made ?

Tbh, having had a Chinese 'yoke' before, I'd be very reluctant to buy anything like that from there, again. Just curious.

thirtythirty

wheelcare.ie is another place that sells them I know of.

Biggest car tool I've ever bought is a toolbox for my 5 tools though, so can't tell ye anything else I'm afraid!

Plug

galwaytt wrote: »

A subject dear to my heart, tools.

I've been thinking the same thing to, btw - can I ask about the ones ye got: I know they're CE-marked, but are they EU, or China-made ?

Tbh, having had a Chinese 'yoke' before, I'd be very reluctant to buy anything like that from there, again. Just curious.

Redmount stuff are Italian, Im going to get one next year myself.

kildarelad

My lift is CE marked and has a mechanical lock for safety in the event of a seal bursting.It also has twin hydraulic rams which alot of lifts dont have

alanmc

What sort of height clearance do these lifts need lads? I have a feeling my garage is too low for it. I'd love a lift though.

Plug

You can get a 2 poster lift without floor clearance so it would bring the height of the lift down to about 2 meters I guess.

alanmc

Plug wrote: »

You can get a 2 poster lift without floor clearance so it would bring the height of the lift down to about 2 meters I guess.

Plus the height of the car, so maybe 3 metres.<goes out to measure garage roof height>

robtri

alanmc wrote: »

What sort of height clearance do these lifts need lads? I have a feeling my garage is too low for it. I'd love a lift though.

most have a lifting height of 1900mm so add on to that the height of the car....
a high roof is needed

Nissan doctor

The redmount stuff is Italian designed but chinese made. As I said I've had no issues with mine at all. When I got it home the only thing that was missing was the assembly intructions:eek: but we figured it out!

I've even had cars up on it for 3 weeks while I was away with my own car underneath and I don't have a squashed car so its all good.

I have the clear floor model as I needed the clearance for low cars, its 11ft tall from memory.

kildarelad

I was told to allow 6 foot clearance for the person standing under it plus the height of the car.For most yokes you would want a shed with a height of at least 13ft as vans can be high enough

andyseadog

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/carextras/2164425

seems cheap for what it is.

specially in comparison to this 4 poster, but i suppose the 4 poster can lift greater weight and is probably more stable.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/carextras/2095185

Plug

Nissan doctor wrote: »

The redmount stuff is Italian designed but chinese made. As I said I've had no issues with mine at all. When I got it home the only thing that was missing was the assembly intructions:eek: but we figured it out!

I've even had cars up on it for 3 weeks while I was away with my own car underneath and I don't have a squashed car so its all good.

I have the clear floor model as I needed the clearance for low cars, its 11ft tall from memory.

A question for you about the clear floor Redmount stuff. I plan on doing vans and stuff and I was wondering 11 foot is bloody nothing. Have they taller ones? I never seen a van on a lift without floor clearance as they can probably lift more than the other non floor clearance ones. I'd nearly be afraid to try it.

Lucifer

I got mine from Howden Tools. It's made by eurotek, I'm told its german made. It was slightly more expensive than the phoenix ones but I'm told its better quality. The phoenix ones are a Chinese lift with an Italian pump. Mine doesn't have clear floor but I've had very low stuff to vans on it.

kildarelad

I got mine from Howden Tools. It's made by eurotek, I'm told its german made. It was slightly more expensive than the phoenix ones but I'm told its better quality. The phoenix ones are a Chinese lift with an Italian pump. Mine doesn't have clear floor but I've had very low stuff to vans on it.

I have to correct you on that Phoenix is Italian designed and Chinese made just like the Redmount stuff.My particular lift doesnt have clear floor either and i have had some very very low cars on it without a problem.I spoke to Howdens when i was looking for a lift be careful suplliers would say mass to make a sale.

specially in comparison to this 4 poster, but i suppose the 4 poster can lift greater weight and is probably more stable.

Four posters are more stable but they are a bitch to work under and are better suited to just inspection work like in the Nct

alanmc

Does anybody have any experience with these 1 post lifts?

Redmount 1 post lift

Looks like a good alternative to the traditional 2 posters while taking up less space. You can even wheel them outside as well.

dr.fuzzenstein

What about a pit?

Nissan doctor

Plug wrote: »

A question for you about the clear floor Redmount stuff. I plan on doing vans and stuff and I was wondering 11 foot is bloody nothing. Have they taller ones? I never seen a van on a lift without floor clearance as they can probably lift more than the other non floor clearance ones. I'd nearly be afraid to try it.

You'd be surprised, I've had a hyundai trajet, landrover disco and my old Navara on my lift and they weren't even touching the limit bar. Taller vans or vans with roof racks etc might be a problem though.

Plug

Nissan doctor wrote: »

You'd be surprised, I've had a hyundai trajet, landrover disco and my old Navara on my lift and they weren't even touching the limit bar. Taller vans or vans with roof racks etc might be a problem though.

And can see myself under a transit down on my knees lifting the gearbox out. Dear God:pac:

Nissan doctor

Plug wrote: »

And can see myself under a transit down on my knees lifting the gearbox out. Dear God:pac:

No bothers, sure there is a big subframe to help hold the box for you...:P

Nforce

Something that has been on my mind too. Does the floor need to be reinforced for these?

robtri

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

What about a pit?

arent they technically illegal...

the good ole boys in the health and safety decided it was too dangerous..iirc

Guy:Incognito

Pits have the same drawbacks as the 4 post lift. The car is still sitting on the wheels so working on anything involving them is out. Your hampered by the only havign the width of the pit and the height clearance the wheels give unless you use jacks.

kildarelad

Something that has been on my mind too. Does the floor need to be reinforced for these?

You would want concrete to a depth of six inches for the Phoenix lifts

Nissan doctor

Nforce wrote: »

Something that has been on my mind too. Does the floor need to be reinforced for these?

They don't need any special reinforcment, just needs to be thick enough to support the weight.

galwaytt

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

What about a pit?

Tbh, not a good idea.

First off, safety. They're dangerous places to work, fill with CO2 and petrol fumes. Use anything remotely likely to cause a spark, and you could be toast. Literally. I worked in the UK in the early 90's, and two local young apprentice's were killed when fumes ignited whilst working on an exhaust system.

They're dark. They're awkward. They're not great for wheel-off stuff.

And there's non-mechanic safety. What ? You know, you walk in of an evening looking for the sweeping brush, or dustpan.........and discover the hard way you left cover off the pit when you pushed the car outside. Or, worse, someone else does, and you find them in the morning.........

I haven't even mentioned what it'll do to your house insurance........

As you can see from here, you can buy a lift quite reasonably. Don't have the height in the garage, but need something ? Then this - or similar, is easier, handier, removable, and you can flog it in the morning if you move on to something else.

MercMad

I've just finished my garage, its not quite as wide as I wanted it but I can get 3 old Mercs in there side by side, just about. Anyway I am on the hunt for something new or second hand but I dont want to ruin the centre space with a post so a 2 poster would be out. I'll be looking at either a scissors lift or a single post lift, or even something portable. My floor is about 10" thick and is reinforced. Unfortunately they poured it before I could get details of the scissor lift to allow it to be sunk into the floor.

Nissan doctor

A scissor lift would be ideal IMO, you can get half height or full height ones.

If its old mercs you have/are working on then I recon you'd need something a bit more solid then a single post.

My garage could fit 3 cars abreast before I put the 2 post in, it still can, at a VERY tight squeeze but you could also do what I often do and have one car up on the lift and another under it.

With 2 post, 2 cars with plenty of working space,


And for storage, 4 cars with NO space:P,

galwaytt

MercMad wrote: »

...My floor is about 10" thick and is reinforced. Unfortunately they poured it before I could get details of the scissor lift to allow it to be sunk into the floor.

that's why they invented this: http://www.diamondhiresales.co.uk/img/products/concrete-floor-saw/concrete-floor-saw2.jpg

I'd say a couple of hours would sort that for you nicely


Oh, and 10" OMG why so thick ?

Nissan doctor

galwaytt wrote: »

Oh, and 10" OMG why so thick ?

They don't describe old mercs as tanks for nothing you know:P

mullingar

I made enquiries last year and this was the cheapest, safest chinese one I could find with these specs:

4.2 tonne capacity
Balanced and fast Dual-cylinder lifting system
Chain-driven system
Automatic safety locks,easy to operate
Low ceiling design
Cable-equalization system
CE marked

http://www.desirei.com/admin/product/producten15.htm



Delivered to dublin port for $1120 = €788 (ex duty and ex vat)

Discounts available for bulk purchases (of course:rolleyes:)


Edit: Forgot to say, I didn't buy this or any other one yet!!

robtri

mullingar wrote: »

I made enquiries last year and this was the cheapest, safest chinese one I could find with these specs:

4.2 tonne capacity
Balanced and fast Dual-cylinder lifting system
Chain-driven system
Automatic safety locks,easy to operate
Low ceiling design
Cable-equalization system
CE marked

http://www.desirei.com/admin/product/producten15.htm



Delivered to dublin port for $1120 = €788 (ex duty and ex vat)

Discounts available for bulk purchases (of course:rolleyes:)


Edit: Forgot to say, I didn't buy this or any other one yet!!

ooooohhhh that is nice...... reamight be tempted with one of them....
any idea on delivery time

Cmar-Ireland

What about something like this if space is tight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kXzzrufv_M

Toolguy

mullingar wrote: »

I made enquiries last year and this was the cheapest, safest chinese one I could find with these specs:

4.2 tonne capacity
Balanced and fast Dual-cylinder lifting system
Chain-driven system
Automatic safety locks,easy to operate
Low ceiling design
Cable-equalization system
CE marked

http://www.desirei.com/admin/product/producten15.htm



Delivered to dublin port for $1120 = €788 (ex duty and ex vat)

Discounts available for bulk purchases (of course:rolleyes:)


Edit: Forgot to say, I didn't buy this or any other one yet!!

That looks like a nice lift. Do you know the gross weight (couldn't see it on website linked)? Thanks

mullingar

Thats SOOOO freaky, I was actually browsing the web looking at another hoist and I got an email alert about your post!

I dont know what the weight is.

But I did discover that there is *apparently* 0% duty on car lifts linky

So, Delivered and VAT cleared to Dublin port for less than €1000.

Anybody interested in a group buy of a 220V single phase version???

Toolguy

That is freaky, considering I was replying to your post from May. Mad

The reason I asked about weight was a friend told me to watch out for this - he reckons some lifts are lighter than others, so wanted to make sure there was plenty of steel in there. I wont be lifting anything too heavy anyhow; just a couple of classic cars.

Another thing, if a few of us bunched together, would we be able to get spare parts sometime down the line, although I'm sure we would. I'm a worrier by nature. ;-)

After posting I went and had a look at a Redmount lift on Saturday. Looks like a sturdy lift, in fairness, and comes with a Bosch Rexroth pump/motor (which can't be bad). Haven't bought anything yet, though. Do you have anyone else interest in a group buy? I'd like to get cracking on my cars pretty soon (now that the evenings are getting shorter).

joecivic

id have an interest in buying one of these if ye were doin a group buy...
looks a good job...

Pulsating Star

joecivic wrote: »

id have an interest in buying one of these if ye were doin a group buy...
looks a good job...

I would be very interested also.

kadman

So, whats the story on a group buy.

And what about Dublin port charges, what are they.

kadman

Solnskaya

If ye groupbuy, count me in. I always wanted one and have a high roof shed with a new floor begging for a lift...

kadman

mullingar wrote: »

Thats SOOOO freaky, I was actually browsing the web looking at another hoist and I got an email alert about your post!

I dont know what the weight is.

But I did discover that there is *apparently* 0% duty on car lifts linky

So, Delivered and VAT cleared to Dublin port for less than €1000.

Anybody interested in a group buy of a 220V single phase version???

What about the port handling charge, any news on that.

kadman

mullingar

kadman wrote: »

What about the port handling charge, any news on that.

kadman

No idea.

But I did find this page to help:
http://cndesiree.en.made-in-china.com/product/jMmxRVrCgXpu/China-Two-Post-Lift-DTPF609-.html

Dub port will need this info for a quote:

Shipping Dimensions: 2900mm*970mm*450mm
Weight: 620kg (plus any packaging weight)

kadman

mullingar wrote: »

No idea.

But I did find this page to help:
http://cndesiree.en.made-in-china.com/product/jMmxRVrCgXpu/China-Two-Post-Lift-DTPF609-.html

Dub port will need this info for a quote:

Shipping Dimensions: 2900mm*970mm*450mm
Weight: 620kg (plus any packaging weight)

Thats the larger of the 2 lifts. The DTPF607 is considerably lighter in weight, at 500kgs, lifting capacity 3200kgs. So that might be less for shipping and terminal handling charges.

As far as I can see, once it arrives in Dublin, its subject to some more charges in port. Terminal handling charges, crane, and possible shipping agency charges this end.

I,ve posted up a question to try and get the right amount, I,ll link to it later on.

kadman

mullingar

kadman wrote: »

Thats the larger of the 2 lifts. The DTPF607 is considerably lighter in weight, at 500kgs, lifting capacity 3200kgs. So that might be less for shipping and terminal handling charges.

As far as I can see, once it arrives in Dublin, its subject to some more charges in port. Terminal handling charges, crane, and possible shipping agency charges this end.

I,ve posted up a question to try and get the right amount, I,ll link to it later on.

kadman

Thanks for that:D

AFAIK the 609 was only $100 (~€70) more than the 607 for the extra 1.0T wight limit so its money well spent IMO as I doubt any Chinese weight limit tests are as strict as EU's.


Also, I looked at RED.ie and their 4T Chinese special is 650kg compard to the 609's 620kg.

kadman

Link to additional port charges, and the scary china import service charge, used by chinese shipping to get more of your dosh.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=75170578

Interesting, it seems an Irish freight forwarder is the way to go

kadman

galwaytt

Sorry, I just posted in the wrong thread.......what I mean to say was.......

China imports - give it up.

I have personal experience of bringing 2 x 40ft containers from China - nightmare, and a complete waste of time.

For a lift, I'd rather pay more, to someone else, for a 'right' one. Our last one came from Italy (via dealer here). Simple, efficient, and the quality is infinately.

I got my bikelift in Italy as well.

kadman

galwaytt wrote: »

Sorry, I just posted in the wrong thread.......what I mean to say was.......

China imports - give it up.

I have personal experience of bringing 2 x 40ft containers from China - nightmare, and a complete waste of time.

For a lift, I'd rather pay more, to someone else, for a 'right' one. Our last one came from Italy (via dealer here). Simple, efficient, and the quality is infinately.

I got my bikelift in Italy as well.

Did you use an Irish based shipper, or a chinese one.

kadman