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How is your club set for the future? U-25 squad

  • 16-05-2011 1:21am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭


    How is your club set for the future? Whats the talent under 25 looking like?

    United

    Amos (21)

    Rafael (20)
    Smalling (21)---Evans (23)----Fabio(20)

    Valencia (25)
    Anderson (23)---Gibson (23)---Nani (24)

    Rooney (25)
    Chico (22)

    Also:

    Welbeck (20)
    Cleverly (21)
    Pogba (18)
    Tunnicliffe (18)
    Morrison (19)
    King (19)
    Bebe (20)
    Obertan (22)
    Macheda (19)
    Looking good.

    Id imagine Arsenal and Liverpool are looking reasonably healthy as well at the moment? Who'd win an under 25's only championship?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Oliver Norwood is someone I've been really impressed with in the reserves, looks a real talent. Davide Petrucci deserves a mention too.

    We usually buy at least two every Summer. I'd be expecting us to sign maybe Rodwell in the Summer and possibly a couple of unknown talents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Steve Bruce's policy to date has been to buy young and he'll start adding experience to that this summer.

    We've one of the best academies (facility wise) and we're starting to get some prospects coming through now after 10 years (which is exactly how long we expected it to take).

    Here's how Sunderland shape up:
    Mignolet (22)

    Al-Muhammadi (23) Onouha (24) Laing (18) Adams (18)

    Henderson (20) Cattermole (23) Meyler (21) Colback (21) Knott (19)

    Noble (19)

    Onouha's not technically ours but he'll sign in the summer.

    7 of those are first team squad regulars already. Even Gyan's only 25 so could be included.

    Knott's one of the finest prospects in the country, we picked him up from Chelsea after he suffered disciplinary problems but along with McEachran he was training with their first team at 16.

    Ryan Noble scores 30 + goals a season at reserve/youth team level and has seen game time recently. Laing made his first team debut on Saturday and is another highly rated talent who's catching attention from many top sides.

    Our academy team won their league and were beaten in the semi-final by Fulham on penalties during last week, whilst we've won our division in the reserve leagues a lot in recent times.

    The future's very bright for Sunderland IMO!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭NoelJ


    Liverpool

    Gulacsi (21)

    Flanagan(18) Kelly(21) wilson(19) robinson(7)

    Shelvey(19) Lucas(24) Spearing(22) Suso (17)

    Suarez(24) Carroll (22)


    The Backline and Strikeforce is very good. I dont think I've seen Gulacsi play so dont know. The midfield looks nice enough too


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭TerryTibbs!


    Delac
    Clifford - David Luiz - Bruma - van Aanholt
    Mikel
    Ramires - McEachran
    Kalou
    Sturridge
    Borini

    Taylor, Betrand, Mellis, Mancienne, C.Clifford, Kakuta, Rajković, Sala, Töre, Mitrović, Phillip, Lalkovič, Chalobah.

    Probably the best u-25's in England.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭MUSEIST


    Why under 25s, completely arbitrary and irrelevant age criteriia????


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    Szcsesny (21)
    Eastmond (20)--- Djourou (24) --- Miquel (18)--- Gibbs (21)
    Song (23) --- Ramsey (20)
    Nasri (23) --- Fabregas (24) --- Wilshire (19)
    Walcott (22)


    Bendtner, Fabianski, McDermott, Shea, Frimpong, Traore, Lansbury, Henderson, Hoyte, Aneke, Cruise, Bartley, Miyaichi, Afobe, Sunu, Wellington, Coquelin, Randall and Watt
    TBF, Arsenal really do have a TON of young talent coming through. Whether we can actually change that into a winning mentality is another thing entirely


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 317 ✭✭goddevil


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    Why under 25s, completely arbitrary and irrelevant age criteriia????

    I'm guessing the OP thinks that players under 25 usually determing the future success of the club and the direction that its heading in.. I agree with him..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    Juve... not the best.
    Laurenţiu Brănescu(17)

    Frederik Sorensen(19) Vincenzo Camilleri(19) Leonardo Bonucci(24) Paolo De Ceglie(24)

    Luca Marrone(21) Manuel Giandonato(19) Claudio Marchisio(25)

    Cristian Pasquato(21) Alberto Libertazzi(19) Sebastian Giovinco(24)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,919 ✭✭✭✭Xavi6


    Soild

    Hart (24)

    Richards (22)
    Boateng (22)
    Kompany (25)
    Kolarov (25)

    Zabaleta (25)
    Milner (25)
    Silva (25)
    A Johnson (24)

    Balotelli (20)
    Dzeko (25)

    The Rest: Mee (21), McGivern (21), Cunningham (20), Onuoha (24), Razak (18), Boyata (20), Jo (24), Ibrahim (20), Weiss (21), Guidetti (19), Assulin (20)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,169 ✭✭✭JohnnyRyan99



    Hart(24)
    Richards(22)---Kompany(25)--Boateng(22)---Kolarov(25)
    AJ(23)
    Silva(25)
    M Johnson(23)
    Milner(25)
    Balotelli(20)
    Dzeko(25)

    (GK)
    Gunnar Nielson(24)
    (D)
    Onouha(24)
    Boyata(20)
    Cunningham(20)
    McGivern(21)
    Trippier(20)
    Mee(21)
    (M)
    McDermot(21)
    Logan(23)
    Vlad Weiss(21)
    Ibrahim(20)
    (F)
    Nimely(19)
    Guidetti(19)
    Jo(24)
    Caicedo(22)

    McDermot, Trippier and Mee the only ones not to have made they're competitive senior debut. Although Trippier and Mee are both involved with the England Under 21's. McDermot looks like he could be a great player as well, and he's Irish... so lets hope so!

    Edit: Xavi6 ya big bollix! You decide to come back now! And Zabs 26!! :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,438 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Blackburn have a pretty decent bunch of youngsters.

    Jackson Ramm is a very exciting young prospect and I'd expect to see him get some senior appearances next year. Everybody knows about Phil Jones, Grant Hanley has done pretty well in the couple of senior starts he has to date. Josh Morris is another very exciting player at right back.

    Hoilett is our star outfield player this season. Olsson is another first team automatic and a very exciting player to watch. Nzonzi was our player of the season last season but was out injured for a lot of this campaign. Jason Lowe played against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge and his performance was praised by Frank Lampard who he kept quiet that day. He is another very exciting prospect.

    Niko Kalinic cost £6 million and hasn't exactly lived up to expectations to date but he is young so hopefully things get better for him. Mauro Formica cost £4 million and probably will work out very well for us but at the moment Rochina who also came in during the January window is ahead of him.

    Unfortunately Aaron Doran seems to have hit a wall or something, he hasn't developed as was expected, he is still young so hopefully he can get back on track. Gavin Gunning is the other Irish lad who is full of promise and has been getting good reviews during his loan spell with Motherwell in the SPL. I keep hearing great stuff about Zac Alley but I haven't seen him play. Liganzi was doing really well with the reserves but hasn't got any opportunities with the senior squad. Allardcye said when he bought him that it would take time to get him right but he really believe he had a big future. And finally Nick Blackman has done very well in the SPL on loan spells with Motherwell and Aberdeen this season.

    Now if we can just get in a proper manager things could work out very well.

    Kean(20)
    Ramm(17)----Jones(19)----Hanley(19)----Morris(19)
    Hoilett(20)----Nzonzi(22)----Lowe(19)----Olsson(22)
    Kalinic(23)
    Rochina(20)

    Gunning(20), Linganzi(21), Formica(23), Doran(20), Alley(19) Blackman(21)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,584 ✭✭✭✭Liam O


    Probably the best u-25's in England.
    except for United, Arsenal, Liverpool and City you mean presumably?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 610 ✭✭✭TerryTibbs!


    Liam O wrote: »
    except for United, Arsenal, Liverpool and City you mean presumably?
    Nope, can you not read?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    I think Liverpool are really well set at youth level. A lot of very good young players, including 7 in the current England under 19 squad.
    In Wisdom, Suso and Sterling I think we have three who could be very special.

    The weakness in our squad at the moment (where we are behind United, Arsenal, City and Spurs) is the lack of quality players in their early 20s who are ready for the first team. Suarez and Carroll addressed that somewhat but i'd like a couple more in that age group in the summer to replace the likes of Aurelio, Soto, Jovanavic and Poulsen.


    Gulacsi(21)

    Flanagan (18)
    Wisdom(18)----Kelly (21)
    Robinson (17)

    Lucas (24)---Shelvey (19)

    Suso (17)
    Suarez (24)
    Sterling (16)----

    Carroll (22)

    I think that team could be surprisingly competitive in the PL even today. Flanagan has shown he is well up to PL football and he is by no means the pick of our youth/reserve sides. The back 4 above are all physically strong and quick as well as being good on the ball. The front 4 is what every Liverpool fan is hoping and praying works out for us in the next few years. If Sterling and Suso fulfill their potential then they can both be top class

    Others:
    Toni Silva (17)
    Danny Wilson (18)
    Adam Morgan (16)
    Krisztian Adorjan (18)
    Daniel Ayala (20)
    Conor Coady (18)
    Michael Ngoo (18)
    Jay Spearing (22)
    Daniel Pacheco (20)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,571 ✭✭✭✭Frisbee


    Xavi6 wrote: »
    Zabaleta (25)

    You are fúcking kidding me, I was convinced Zabaleta was at least 30.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Delac
    Clifford - David Luiz - Bruma - van Aanholt
    Mikel
    Ramires - McEachran
    Kalou
    Sturridge
    Borini

    Taylor, Betrand, Mellis, Mancienne, C.Clifford, Kakuta, Rajković, Sala, Töre, Mitrović, Phillip, Lalkovič, Chalobah.

    Probably the best u-25's in England.

    Like the look of that!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 303 ✭✭gav86


    Krul (23)
    Simpson (24)--Taylor (25)-Kadar(21)-J.Enrique(24)
    Guthrie (24)--Tiote (24)
    Lua Lua (20)---Ben Arfa (24) ---Ferguson (19)
    Ranger (20)
    Other mentions to Airey (19), Vuckic (18) and R.Donaldson (20). Not looking too bad actually..:D

    Forgot Gosling, he's only 21


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie



    Ben Alnwick
    Walker(21)
    Caulker(19)----Kaboul(23)
    Rose(21)

    Lennon(23)---Thudd(23)--Sandro(21)---Bale(21)
    Modric(25)
    Kane(18)/Dos Santos(21)

    Then subs would include
    O'Hara
    Townsend
    Livermore
    Dos Santos/Kane
    Khumalo
    Parett
    Bostock
    and I'm sure I'm missing a couple too

    Pretty decent team Caulker, Parett, Townsend and Walker look like they have very bright futures.
    Forgot Naughton -21/22


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Modric(20)

    You wish. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Johner wrote: »
    You wish. ;)
    Sorry he's 25 :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Krul (23)

    Simpson (24)
    Kadar (21)
    Henderson (20)
    Dummet (20)

    Vuckic (18)
    Inman (20)
    McDermott (20)
    Ferguson (19)

    Ranger (20)
    Ameobi (19)

    Few others too but I've not really seen them play properly yet.

    Donaldson (20), Airey (20), Gosling (21), Soderberg (21), Tavernier (20), Tozer (21), Richardson (19).

    We've got some very hot prospects coming through and places for players will come very competitive. Wouldn't mind lining up like this eventually.

    Krul

    Simpson - Coloccini - Kadar - Enrique

    Tiote

    Ben Arfa - Barton - Ferguson

    Nolan

    Vuckic

    I'd have Nolan playing just behind Vuckic. I know Vuckic has been played predominantly on the wing but the chap is quite tall and built like a tank and with some good delivery from both flanks, I reckon he could net a good few headers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    Villa have a decent youth setup, and the first XI here all have PL experience at this stage, so expect to see these names at Villa/other PL and championship clubs over the next few years.

    GK Guzan
    LB Herd
    RB Lichaj
    CB Clark
    CB Lowry
    CM Delph
    RMF Albrighton
    LMF Bannan
    CM Hogg
    FW Fonz
    FW Agbonlahor

    Bench

    GK Parish
    CB Baker
    CM g. Gardner
    FW Weimann


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Have to say there are some very strong teams there Arsenal especially


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    Ben Alnwick

    He's some man to film himself **** over Liam Lawrence riding a young one!

    How have you found him at Spurs? He was an absolute twat and very average IMO at Sunderland. We got a great deal getting £500,000 and Fulop in exchange for him, considering we sold Fulop to Ipswich for £1.5m a couple of seasons later.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Paully D wrote: »
    He's some man to film himself **** over Liam Lawrence riding a young one!

    How have you found him at Spurs? He was an absolute twat and very average IMO at Sunderland. We got a great deal getting £500,000 and Fulop in exchange for him, considering we sold Fulop to Ipswich for £1.5m a couple of seasons later.
    What! Never heard anything about that! Absolutely no idea what he's like only played once in the last few years wasn't in the 25 man squad for this season either Just put him down cause I figured he'd be more adept then the younger keepers we have. We've been linked with scot loach(?) I think a few times in the last two years who looks very good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,710 ✭✭✭✭Paully D


    What! Never heard anything about that! Absolutely no idea what he's like only played once in the last few years wasn't in the 25 man squad for this season either Just put him down cause I figured he'd be more adept then the younger keepers we have. We've been linked with scot loach(?) I think a few times in the last two years who looks very good.

    Yep. He, Liam Lawrence, and Chris Brown had an orgy with some young one.

    http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/shame_of_safc_stars_in_sex_romp_video_1_1127730
    THREE shamed Sunderland players could face disciplinary action after they were caught on film taking part in a sex romp.

    In the seven-minute video, the players are filmed with a mystery brunette referred to as "Stevie".

    Goalkeeper Ben Alnwick, 19, winger Liam Lawrence, 24, and striker Chris Brown, 21, are identified as being involved.

    Their ex-teammate Martin Woods, 20, who now plays for Rotherham Utd, and two other men, were also at the flat, although remained fully clothed.

    The three can expect to face the wrath of manager Roy Keane and chairman Niall Quinn as an investigation gets under way.

    During the filming, England under-21 star Alnwick is spotted winking at the camera as he takes part in an act.

    It is also alleged Brown does a "Match of the Day" style commentary during the video.

    The club's marketing and communications director, Lesley Callaghan, said on behalf of the board: "The behaviour of any individual that adversely affects the image or good name of Sunderland Football Club is obviously disappointing, and we will be handling this matter internally."

    This is not the first time Brown, son of ex-Sunderland striker Alan Brown, has found himself in hot water for his behaviour.

    He was one of three Black Cat players who admitted taking pot shots at passers-by during a shooting spree with a ball-bearing gun in September 2004.

    Armed police had arrested Chris Brown, 19, Ryan Bell and Sean Taylor, both 18, after reports of three men driving around the city firing at pedestrians.

    Nobody was injured, but police seized a ball-bearing gun – adapted to fire paintball pellets – and the trio all accepted cautions for public order offences.

    Republic of Ireland player Lawrence was sent on loan to Stoke City last month, while Woods was released from the club in the summer.

    Alnwick has agreed to join Spurs in January for around 1m.

    The players' movement is understood to have nothing to do with the video.

    Type ''Sunderland Players Romp'' into Google if you want to see it for yourself :pac:

    Loach would be a far better player than Alnwick. If you get stuck with Alnwick having a run in the side for any reason you're in serious trouble because he's terrible IMO.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,153 ✭✭✭everdead.ie


    Paully D wrote: »
    Yep. He, Liam Lawrence, and Chris Brown had an orgy with some young one.

    http://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/local/shame_of_safc_stars_in_sex_romp_video_1_1127730



    Type ''Sunderland Players Romp'' into Google if you want to see it for yourself :pac:

    Loach would be a far better player than Alnwick. If you get stuck with Alnwick having a run in the side for any reason you're in serious trouble because he's terrible IMO.
    Ya well I'd say he's likely to go soon like I said one league start in two seasons and 1 cup start three seasons ago and thats all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭SomethingElse


    Cervi
    Juarez-Rogne-Mulgrew-Izaguirre
    Forrest-Brown-Kayal-Ledley
    Hooper-Stokes

    Subs:
    Hutchinson
    McGowan
    McGinn
    Ki
    Towell
    Thompson
    O'Dea
    Conroy


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    The Arsenal, City and United teams posted are the best ones by a mile.

    The Arsenal one, based on the criteria, should include Vermaelen and Clichy though. It's basically Arsenal's current first XI minus Sagna and van Persie.

    United's is minus VDS, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand and probably Scholes/Giggs.

    City are only minus Tevez and I guess the Tourés.

    Chelsea lose most of their main players and have untested kids in their place. They're a long way off having the best U25s, at least based on what's been posted here.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,438 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    The Arsenal, City and United teams posted are the best ones by a mile.
    You might be right but you are really only guessing in fairness. They are the most well known by a mile thats for sure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Frisbee wrote: »
    You are fúcking kidding me, I was convinced Zabaleta was at least 30.

    He's 26.

    Sorry City fans :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,910 ✭✭✭✭whatawaster


    The Arsenal, City and United teams posted are the best ones by a mile.

    The Arsenal one, based on the criteria, should include Vermaelen and Clichy though. It's basically Arsenal's current first XI minus Sagna and van Persie.

    United's is minus VDS, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand and probably Scholes/Giggs.

    City are only minus Tevez and I guess the Tourés.

    Chelsea lose most of their main players and have untested kids in their place. They're a long way off having the best U25s, at least based on what's been posted here.

    they are the best now. but the op specified the future and it becomes less clear when you look at it that way as many lesser known players will be established pl stars in 4 or 5 years whereas many of the established names will be ageing


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    Why under 25s, completely arbitrary and irrelevant age criteriia????

    Well I wanted the team to be a measure of youth but if I'd picked U-21's then most teams would have had a load of guys no-one has heard of yet outside their own clubs and who have played little or no first team football. By pitching it at U-25 you get to see which clubs are doing the best job at getting young guys into the first team at an early age. Not only do you get a viewpoint of how good the youth set up is, you get to see which teams have aphilosophy of giving young fellas a chance in the first XI. It gives a nice overall view of the club's philosophy towards nurturing young talent.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    eagle eye wrote: »
    You might be right but you are really only guessing in fairness. They are the most well known by a mile thats for sure.
    If there's someone here who isn't guessing I'd be mighty impressed.
    they are the best now. but the op specified the future and it becomes less clear when you look at it that way as many lesser known players will be established pl stars in 4 or 5 years whereas many of the established names will be ageing
    ... and who has the most ageing players? Chelsea lose basically their entire first team.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    The Arsenal, City and United teams posted are the best ones by a mile.

    The Arsenal one, based on the criteria, should include Vermaelen and Clichy though. It's basically Arsenal's current first XI minus Sagna and van Persie.

    United's is minus VDS, Evra, Vidic, Ferdinand and probably Scholes/Giggs.

    City are only minus Tevez and I guess the Tourés.

    Chelsea lose most of their main players and have untested kids in their place. They're a long way off having the best U25s, at least based on what's been posted here.


    Fletcher and Carrick as well.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Doyle(25)
    Ozturk(17)-Kerr(18)-Dann(24)-Rowe(18)
    Larsson(25)-Gardner(24)-Mutch(19)-Redmond(17)
    Jerome(24)-Asante(18)

    Subs:
    Butland(18)
    Michel(25)
    Jay O'Shea(22)
    Valles(21)
    Shroot (23)
    Jervis(19)

    Not a great selection, plus most likely a lot of them players will be gone in the summer. The only ones I would pick out for the future would be Butland, Mutch, Redmond and Asante. Could be crucial players if we get relegated.


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    Fletcher and Carrick as well.
    Yeah I forgot about them; squad-wise they lose quite a lot. City actually lose a fair bit more than I thought too with the likes of De Jong, Zabaleta, Barry etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭Pinturicchio


    Kiwi_knock wrote: »
    Subs:
    Butland(18)
    Michel(25)
    Jay O'Shea(22)
    Valles(21)
    Shroot (23)
    Jervis(19)

    Not a great selection, plus most likely a lot of them players will be gone in the summer. The only ones I would pick out for the future would be Butland, Mutch, Redmond and Asante. Could be crucial players if we get relegated.

    Do you think there's any future for Jayo at Birmingham?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,762 ✭✭✭jive


    IMO Arsenal seem to have the best underage team on paper at least. City, Chelsea and United all look good too but Arsenal has the best imo.

    Tbh Arsenal / United need to have better underage teams because Chelsea/City have so much buying power that their underage teams are pretty irrelevant. United / Arsenal don't have that luxury.

    I don't rate that Liverpool team too highly tbh. Suarez / Carrol / Lucas are all good but I dont think the rest of that team is great from those I have seen in the first team. Admittedly I haven't seen all the players play.

    Chelsea have potentially top players in Kakuta, Bruma, Luiz, Ramires, Mceachran, Sturridge. United have that in Nani, Chicarito and Rooney is already a top player. SAF has a habit of getting the best out of 'average' players though, plenty of league titles in that team given the strength and depth of the squad. Just goes to show what you can do if you spend your money wisely. All those players will mature and develop and they are all -solid- players as it is, I just can't see any of them being world beaters with the exception of those I've mentioned already. Arsenal have top players already with the exception of the defence and keeper. Scezsny looks like he could mature into a very good keeper though imo. City already have top players in every position looking at that team :pac: Hart, Kompany, Balotelli and Silva being the standout players in each position. A lot of those are older than those mentioned on other teams though but they still fit the criteria.

    With the exception of the defence (which ain't bad but it's not great imo), Arsenal look strong as fuaaaark


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Do you think there's any future for Jayo at Birmingham?

    Honestly no, has been non existent since his debut against Man Utd last season. He was far too light weight for the Premiership. McLeish was hoping to get him a loan with a Championship club this year but there was no interest. Ended up in League 2. If relegated I would give him a chance but I presume he will be moving on the summer, possibly back to Ireland.


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 15,001 ✭✭✭✭Pepe LeFrits


    In my opinion, the below would be Arsenal's U25 championship squad, as flah put it. Current age and a bit of info of unknowns in brackets:

    Szczesny (21)
    Clichy (25)
    Vermaelen (25)
    Djourou (24)
    Coquelin (20 - 25 appearances this season on loan in Ligue 1, though he's more of a DM than a RB.)
    Song (23)
    Wilshere (19)
    Fabregas (24)
    Nasri (23)
    Walcott (22)
    Bendtner (23)

    2nd XI:

    Mannone (23)
    Gibbs (21)
    Koscielny (25)
    Bartley (19 - big CB who has spent 2 terms on loan at Sheffield United and has just picked an SPL medal following a loan at Rangers)
    Lansbury (20 - Busy CM who has spent 2 seasons on loan in the Champ & 1 in league one. Again, not really a RB. Eastmond could play instead of him, but he's not really a RB either)
    Denilson (23)
    Diaby (25)
    Ramsey (20)
    Pedro (21 - Big Brazilian left winger/fullback who has been 'parked' at a couple of Segunda teams for the past 3 seasons)
    Ryo (18 - Japanese winger parked at PSV. He only signed in January but has been sensational. Nicknamed Ryodinho by PSV fans)
    Vela (22)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,441 ✭✭✭✭jesus_thats_gre


    MUSEIST wrote: »
    Why under 25s, completely arbitrary and irrelevant age criteriia????

    Rooney and Valencia can be listed then..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,832 ✭✭✭✭Blatter


    Rooney and Valencia can be listed then..

    Haha your so cynical!! Lol:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,235 ✭✭✭✭flahavaj


    Rooney and Valencia can be listed then..

    I was gonna go 38 so I could get Giggsy in.:pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,560 ✭✭✭✭Kess73


    I think Liverpool are really well set at youth level. A lot of very good young players, including 7 in the current England under 19 squad.
    In Wisdom, Suso and Sterling I think we have three who could be very special.

    The weakness in our squad at the moment (where we are behind United, Arsenal, City and Spurs) is the lack of quality players in their early 20s who are ready for the first team. Suarez and Carroll addressed that somewhat but i'd like a couple more in that age group in the summer to replace the likes of Aurelio, Soto, Jovanavic and Poulsen.


    Gulacsi (21)

    Flanagan (18)
    Wisdom (18)----Kelly (21)
    Robinson (17)

    Lucas (24)---Shelvey (19)

    Suso (17)
    Suarez (24)
    Sterling (16)----

    Carroll (22)

    I think that team could be surprisingly competitive in the PL even today. Flanagan has shown he is well up to PL football and he is by no means the pick of our youth/reserve sides. The back 4 above are all physically strong and quick as well as being good on the ball. The front 4 is what every Liverpool fan is hoping and praying works out for us in the next few years. If Sterling and Suso fulfill their potential then they can both be top class

    Others:
    Toni Silva (17)
    Danny Wilson (18)
    Adam Morgan (16)
    Krisztian Adorjan (18)
    Daniel Ayala (20)
    Conor Coady (18)
    Michael Ngoo (18)
    Jay Spearing (22)
    Daniel Pacheco (20)




    Or to tweak it a bit to strengthen the attack and midfield, and to put a right footer in the right CB slot and a left footer in the left cb slot.



    Gulacsi (21)

    Flanagan (18)
    Kelly (21)----Wilson (19)
    Robinson (17)

    Lucas (24)---Spearing (22)

    Suarez (24)
    Shelvey (19)
    Pacheco(20)----

    Carroll (22)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭The Volt


    Decided to give Everton's a go.

    Davies

    Bidwell Hammar Duffy Coleman

    Barkley Rodwell Fellaini Gueye

    Velios Anichebe

    It's not bad. Our under 18's won the league this year, 4 of the above are established starters and Gueye isn't too far off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,077 ✭✭✭✭eh i dunno


    Voltwad wrote: »
    Decided to give Everton's a go.

    Davies

    Bidwell Hammar Duffy Coleman

    Barkley Rodwell Fellaini Gueye

    Velios Anichebe

    It's not bad. Our under 18's won the league this year, 4 of the above are established starters and Gueye isn't too far off.

    Would have Mustafi ahead of Hammer and Coleman and Bidwell should swap sides. And i'd throw Silva(2goals at Benfica at the weekend) up front instead of Anichebe or even start with 10 lads :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,435 ✭✭✭✭redout



    ²Miño

    ²Fontas---Pique*

    ²Montoya
    ²Muniesa

    Busquets*

    Thiago*

    Rafinha

    Messi*

    Pedro*
    Bojan*


    Bench: ²Romeu, ²Jeffren, ²Bartra, ²Jonathan, Deulofeu, Affelay*

    Keirrison, Cáceres, Henrique and Víctor Sánchez all on loan this season and fit the criteria.

    Been talk of Henrique being called back, Cáceres to make his switch to Sevilla permanent and same with Víctor Sánchez - Nada on Keirrison.

    Players in bold possibly have the best chance of making it a part from the ones who already have.

    * = Already in the first team squad proper.

    ² = Has made debut for first team.

    The above team will never happen of course - signings will be made, players will be sold etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Villa have a decent youth setup, and the first XI here all have PL experience at this stage, so expect to see these names at Villa/other PL and championship clubs over the next few years.

    GK Guzan
    LB Herd
    RB Lichaj
    CB Clark
    CB Lowry
    CM Delph
    RMF Albrighton
    LMF Bannan
    CM Hogg
    FW Fonz
    FW Agbonlahor

    Bench

    GK Parish
    CB Baker
    CM g. Gardner
    FW Weimann

    I'd probably have Baker ahead of Lowry at CB as from the couple of times I have seen him and from what I've read Lowry isn't going to make anything above League 2 level. AFAIK Lowry is a LB and given that we were playing Clark and Baker (both CBs) there ahead of him during the injury crisis, it kind of says something about him.
    And I'd probably try a 4 - 3 - 3 with the midfield of Delph, Bannan, Gardner and forward line of Albrighton, Agbonlahor, Fonz


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,017 ✭✭✭invinciblePRSTV


    matrim wrote: »
    I'd probably have Baker ahead of Lowry at CB as from the couple of times I have seen him and from what I've read Lowry isn't going to make anything above League 2 level. AFAIK Lowry is a LB and given that we were playing Clark and Baker (both CBs) there ahead of him during the injury crisis, it kind of says something about him.

    I bow to your knowledge on the topic, has Lowry made his PL debut yet? i have vague memories that he has but can't be sure.

    matrim wrote: »
    And I'd probably try a 4 - 3 - 3 with the midfield of Delph, Bannan, Gardner and forward line of Albrighton, Agbonlahor, Fonz

    I like.


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