A great little country

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 3:52pm #1

It was brought to my attention during the week of a woman advertising babysitting services for a very reasonable rate. However knowing the family you might be shocked to know that she has 6 kids of her own, all in foster care. There are many reasons for foster care and I am not slating anybody who has children in this situation.

I'm no expert on the social welfare system-and am not for 1 minute saying that it is there for a very good reason for those who fall on hard times- but I do know that the cost of these kids in care is costing the taxpayer in the region of €1600/week. Add to that welfare, childrens allowance, medical cards, fuel allowance, rent paid in full, and whatever else you may care to add.
I like many of us who are lucky enough to have a job, work damn hard to survive, and there are many who will read this who would give anything to be able to work, and contribute to the running of the country, however bad you may think it is.
But..when I hear of the above-my blood boils. A woman like this advertising babysitting services.... needless to say I have reported this.
Rant over.
Its a great little country.

mconigol · 14-05-2011 4:21pm

Thanks for the update.

Coriolanus · 14-05-2011 4:23pm

Maybe she just didn't like her children? Don't be so fucking judgemental OP. :mad:

mikom · 14-05-2011 4:24pm

MrSausage wrote: »

But..when I hear of the above-my blood boils. A woman like this advertising babysitting services.... needless to say I have reported this.
.

Could be worse......... her surname could be MCcann

chucken1 · 14-05-2011 4:25pm

You reported what exactly? That the woman is looking for work?

How awful of her!

Coriolanus · 14-05-2011 4:27pm

chucken1 wrote: »

You reported what exactly? That the woman is looking for work?
How awful of her!

Probably that he doesn't think she'll be reporting her earnings.

Kevin Duffy · 14-05-2011 4:40pm

She has 6 children of her own in care, but she's safe to look after other people's kids.....wait, what??

hondasam · 14-05-2011 4:44pm

MrSausage wrote: »

It was brought to my attention during the week of a woman advertising babysitting services for a very reasonable rate. However knowing the family you might be shocked to know that she has 6 kids of her own, all in foster care. There are many reasons for foster care and I am not slating anybody who has children in this situation.

I'm no expert on the social welfare system-and am not for 1 minute saying that it is there for a very good reason for those who fall on hard times- but I do know that the cost of these kids in care is costing the taxpayer in the region of €1600/week. Add to that welfare, childrens allowance, medical cards, fuel allowance, rent paid in full, and whatever else you may care to add.
I like many of us who are lucky enough to have a job, work damn hard to survive, and there are many who will read this who would give anything to be able to work, and contribute to the running of the country, however bad you may think it is.
But..when I hear of the above-my blood boils. A woman like this advertising babysitting services.... needless to say I have reported this.
Rant over.
Its a great little country.

fair play for reporting her but somebody reading this might know her.

Yakult · 14-05-2011 4:47pm

Cool story bro

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 4:48pm

hondasam wrote: »

fair play for reporting her but somebody reading this might know her.

If they do, hopefully they will do as I did. Should be nothing to hide here I think. It's wrong.

Fukuyama · 14-05-2011 4:48pm

Stuff like this annoys me...

Phill Ewinn · 14-05-2011 5:08pm

Where is the father in this story? What court awarded custody of six children without dealing with their parents? Mind boggles!

chucken1 · 14-05-2011 5:11pm

I'll ask again OP..what did you report her for? Looking for work?

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:14pm

chucken1 wrote: »

I'll ask again OP..what did you report her for? Looking for work?

Yes, looking for work as a childminder

chucken1 · 14-05-2011 5:30pm

MrSausage wrote: »

It was brought to my attention during the week of a woman advertising babysitting services for a very reasonable rate. However knowing the family you might be shocked to know that she has 6 kids of her own, all in foster care. There are many reasons for foster care and I am not slating anybody who has children in this situation.

I'm no expert on the social welfare system-and am not for 1 minute saying that it is there for a very good reason for those who fall on hard times- but I do know that the cost of these kids in care is costing the taxpayer in the region of €1600/week. Add to that welfare, childrens allowance, medical cards, fuel allowance, rent paid in full, and whatever else you may care to add.
I like many of us who are lucky enough to have a job, work damn hard to survive, and there are many who will read this who would give anything to be able to work, and contribute to the running of the country, however bad you may think it is.
But..when I hear of the above-my blood boils. A woman like this advertising babysitting services.... needless to say I have reported this.
Rant over.
Its a great little country.

Yes you are slating someone is this situation.

RainbowRose81 · 14-05-2011 5:32pm

MrSausage wrote: »

It was brought to my attention during the week of a woman advertising babysitting services for a very reasonable rate. However knowing the family you might be shocked to know that she has 6 kids of her own, all in foster care. There are many reasons for foster care and I am not slating anybody who has children in this situation.

I'm no expert on the social welfare system-and am not for 1 minute saying that it is there for a very good reason for those who fall on hard times- but I do know that the cost of these kids in care is costing the taxpayer in the region of €1600/week. Add to that welfare, childrens allowance, medical cards, fuel allowance, rent paid in full, and whatever else you may care to add.
I like many of us who are lucky enough to have a job, work damn hard to survive, and there are many who will read this who would give anything to be able to work, and contribute to the running of the country, however bad you may think it is.
But..when I hear of the above-my blood boils. A woman like this advertising babysitting services.... needless to say I have reported this.
Rant over.
Its a great little country.

Do you accurately know the circumstances of that woman's situation? Do you have the right to judge her or anyone? How do you know she is not trying to get her life back together, maybe she is trying to work as a childminder in order to get her own children back? How could anyone be as hard as to see protecting children in foster homes and in care as a cost to the country. Children are one of society's most vulnerable and children in care do have a very hard life and many of them have problems later in their life if they do survive and make it past 25 years. Do you know what it's like to be in care, could you imagine being in care at 7 years old having no adult in your life to trust, to guide you and protect you. The child protection and social services in this country are fragmented systems anyway where many of of the vulnerable people's needs are not met. You sound like you don't know the reality of life. Not everyone grows up in a normal home, not everyone is shown how to live a normal life because their parents didn't how would they know unless they found help to know how to live a normal life. How could you be that judgemental? You should be glad you are in a good situation instead of trying to bring down people who are already very down.

Freddie59 · 14-05-2011 5:34pm

Dean0088 wrote: »

Stuff like this annoys me...

That she's doing it - or that she was reported?

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:37pm

chucken1 wrote: »

Yes you are slating someone is this situation.

Not intended. What would you do in this situation @poster?

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:39pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Do you accurately know the circumstances of that woman's situation?

Yes I do.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:42pm

To some here, are you missing the point? This is a woman with kids in care, she is clearly unable to look after them-someday maybe she will, I hope so. But the fact she advertises as a babysitter or childminder is wrong.
But lets have an argument about being PC-that will help.

RainbowRose81 · 14-05-2011 5:44pm

MrSausage wrote: »

Not intended. What would you do in this situation @poster?

What situation are you in? Your situation is good. Childminding companies/agencies would have a vetting process for anyone working with children. What is it to you, is that woman directly offending you in any way? You should get out more instead of looking at other people's life and failings, why don't you look at your own.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:45pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

What situation are you in? Your situation is good. Childminding companies/agencies would have a vetting process for anyone working with children. What is it to you, is that woman directly offending you in any way? You should get out more instead of looking at other people's life and failings, why don't you look at your own.

Again missing the point entirely. Read the OP

Coriolanus · 14-05-2011 5:46pm

MrSausage wrote: »

To some here, are you missing the point? This is a woman with kids in care, she is clearly unable to look after them-someday maybe she will, I hope so. But the fact she advertises as a babysitter or childminder is wrong.
But lets have an argument about being PC-that will help.

Why clearly? There's any number of reasons she might have had the kids taken away. When did they take them anyway, since you seem to know so much.
Perhaps, as part of the process in getting them back, she had to demonstrate a level of responsibility and this is one way in which she can do so.

krudler · 14-05-2011 5:46pm

chucken1 wrote: »

You reported what exactly? That the woman is looking for work?
How awful of her!

you think someone who allegedly has 6 kids in foster care should be allowed look after other peoples children?

themadchef · 14-05-2011 5:47pm

chucken1 wrote: »

I'll ask again OP..what did you report her for? Looking for work?

Sweet Jesus. Do you really not get it?

The woman decided to put or was forced to put her kids into foster care. Not a creche, FOSTER CARE. The parent who is now prepared to look after your kid for a fee couldint mind her own and you dont see an issue here?

If she offered to mind mine for free i'd still run.

Freddie59 · 14-05-2011 5:48pm

MrSausage wrote: »

To some here, are you missing the point? This is a woman with kids in care, she is clearly unable to look after them-someday maybe she will, I hope so. But the fact she advertises as a babysitter or childminder is wrong.
But lets have an argument about being PC-that will help.

I would agree. If SIX children have been removed from her care there are definitely warning signs IMHO.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:48pm

krudler wrote: »

you think someone who allegedly has 6 kids in foster care should be allowed look after other peoples children?

We are all entitled to opinions-and to some I am at my best to keep from getting banned!

Oranage2 · 14-05-2011 5:50pm

Yep op, the overly PC crowd on boards are a pack of idiots - God forbid somebody trying to do the right thing!

would you want this girl knowing she has had 6 kids put into foster care looking after your kids?

Simple answer - NO!!!

The OP was right to report!

RainbowRose81 · 14-05-2011 5:50pm

krudler wrote: »

you think someone who allegedly has 6 kids in foster care should be allowed look after other peoples children?

You cannot work with children until you are vetted. Most people knows this

Freddie59 · 14-05-2011 5:52pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

You cannot work with children until you are vetted. Most people knows this

This is ireland. You get to do LOADS of things which you not supposed to. And which the idiot authorities spot when it's too late.:mad:

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 5:54pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

You cannot work with children until you are vetted. Most people knows this

Babysitting??

RainbowRose81 · 14-05-2011 5:59pm

You don't know the full facts and where is the father of the children. If I knew for certain the children were taken of her because of neglect and abuse I would report she instantly. There should be garda vetting automatically in place for any one working with children either in a agency or in private childminding. There is some parents who I personally believe should be vetted because they can bring children in to the world yet they don't know how to be parents or don't have the will to look after children that is why there is so much neglect and child abuse in Ireland that started in the home. Its very sad.

chucken1 · 14-05-2011 6:00pm

themadchef wrote: »

Sweet Jesus. Do you really not get it?

The woman decided to put or was forced to put her kids into foster care. Not a creche, FOSTER CARE. The parent who is now prepared to look after your kid for a fee couldint mind her own and you dont see an issue here?

If she offered to mind mine for free i'd still run.

All I asked was what did the OP report her for??? As in,what reason did he/she give.

RainbowRose81 · 14-05-2011 6:03pm

chucken1 wrote: »

All I asked was what did the OP report her for??? As in,what reason did he/she give.

Well, her 6 children are in care so she is looking for work as a childminder now so it may be highly likely she is unable to look after children because her own 6 children are in care so I understood that he is reporting her because she is going to be looking after children so in order to protect them he reported her. Do you understand now

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:05pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well, her 6 children are in care so she is looking for work as a childminder now so it may be highly likely she is unable to look after children because her own 6 children are in care so I understood that he is reporting her because she is going to be looking after children so in order to protect them he reported her. Do you understand now

Yes...

Show Time · 14-05-2011 6:06pm

MrSausage wrote: »

It was brought to my attention during the week of a woman advertising babysitting services for a very reasonable rate. However knowing the family you might be shocked to know that she has 6 kids of her own, all in foster care. There are many reasons for foster care and I am not slating anybody who has children in this situation.

I'm no expert on the social welfare system-and am not for 1 minute saying that it is there for a very good reason for those who fall on hard times- but I do know that the cost of these kids in care is costing the taxpayer in the region of €1600/week. Add to that welfare, childrens allowance, medical cards, fuel allowance, rent paid in full, and whatever else you may care to add.
I like many of us who are lucky enough to have a job, work damn hard to survive, and there are many who will read this who would give anything to be able to work, and contribute to the running of the country, however bad you may think it is.
But..when I hear of the above-my blood boils. A woman like this advertising babysitting services.... needless to say I have reported this.
Rant over.
Its a great little country.

Have you told her to her face or are you just going to gloat about it on a public forum like this?

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:10pm

Show Time wrote: »

Have you told her to her face or are you just going to gloat about it on a public forum like this?

Yes I have, it's been reported , and have you anything more to offer???

chucken1 · 14-05-2011 6:12pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well, her 6 children are in care so she is looking for work as a childminder now so it may be highly likely she is unable to look after children because her own 6 children are in care so I understood that he is reporting her because she is going to be looking after children so in order to protect them he reported her. Do you understand now

Of course I understand!! Im just wondering where the OP was when her 6 children were taken into care? Did he/she notice they might have needed a good neighbour then??
Plus a good 2 thirds of his OP is about the cost of having the children in care.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:15pm

chucken1 wrote: »

Of course I understand!! Im just wondering where the OP was when her 6 children were taken into care? Did he/she notice they might have needed a good neighbour then??
Plus a good 2 thirds of his OP is about the cost of having the children in care.

Yes I agree, It's a mixed OP.
1st point I was trying to make was that this woman is unsuitable for what she advertises.
2nd was the fact that she wants to charge for a service that she is uncapable of providing at the moment-Please don't ask for clarification
As for the money element, well thats what it costs the taxpayer, form your own opinion on that.

RainbowRose81 · 14-05-2011 6:18pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

Yep op, the overly PC crowd on boards are a pack of idiots - God forbid somebody trying to do the right thing!

would you want this girl knowing she has had 6 kids put into foster care looking after your kids?

Simple answer - NO!!!

The OP was right to report!

Well it's good he reported it. How is it PC to tell it like it is when a person is begrudging the cost of child protection and social services for children in the country. That's not right.

ldxo15wus6fpgm · 14-05-2011 6:18pm

MrSausage wrote: »

Yes I have, it's been reported , and have you anything more to offer???

Reported to whom exactly?

Vizzy · 14-05-2011 6:24pm

chucken1 wrote: »

Of course I understand!! Im just wondering where the OP was when her 6 children were taken into care? Did he/she notice they might have needed a good neighbour then??
Plus a good 2 thirds of his OP is about the cost of having the children in care.

Oh right,I get it now,its the OP's fault that the kids were taken into care and to make it worse he/she is now preventing them from getting a childminding job.
My advice to the woman,if I ever meet her,is sue the OP

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:26pm

Vizzy wrote: »

Oh right,I get it now,its the OP's fault that the kids were taken into care and to make it worse he/she is now preventing them from getting a childminding job.
My advice to the woman,if I ever meet her,is sue the OP

Thanks-Love this post

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:28pm

Nixon Howling Stinger wrote: »

Reported to whom exactly?

Appropriate persons.

ldxo15wus6fpgm · 14-05-2011 6:28pm

Vizzy wrote: »

My advice to the woman,if I ever meet her,is sue the OP

For what? He's not maliciously reporting something false because he dislikes the woman. Creating liability for reporting a moral injustice is ridiculous, next thing you'll want to be able to sue witnesses in criminal cases.

EDIT:

MrSausage wrote: »

Appropriate persons.

Appropriate persons being...?

tayto lover · 14-05-2011 6:30pm

Just because she applied to foster kids does not mean that she will get it. Every aspect of her life and fitness to foster will be examined by the Social Work Team in the Foster Care Dept.
She has little or no hope of being successful with he own children being in care.

ldxo15wus6fpgm · 14-05-2011 6:32pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Just because she applied to foster kids does not mean that she will get it. Every aspect of her life and fitness to foster will be examined by the Social Work Team in the Foster Care Dept.
She has little or no hope of being successful with he own children being in care.

You need to read more carefully! She's offering child minding services, not looking to foster other kids.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:34pm

tayto lover wrote: »

Just because she applied to foster kids does not mean that she will get it. Every aspect of her life and fitness to foster will be examined by the Social Work Team in the Foster Care Dept.
She has little or no hope of being successful with he own children being in care.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:34pm

Nixon Howling Stinger wrote: »

You need to read more carefully! She's offering child minding services, not looking to foster other kids.

It's Ireland, who knows!

Oranage2 · 14-05-2011 6:38pm

RainbowRose81 wrote: »

Well it's good he reported it. How is it PC to tell it like it is when a person is begrudging the cost of child protection and social services for children in the country. That's not right.

Agree with you 100% that he shouldnt begrudge foster care, but for her being a babysitter is where my problem with people agrueing that she should be allowed child mind.

MrSausage · 14-05-2011 6:39pm

Oranage2 wrote: »

Agree with you 100% that he shouldnt begrudge foster care, but for her being a babysitter is where my problem with people agrueing that she should be allowed child mind.

I am 100% not begrudging foster care, and if it appears otherwise, sorry.

A great little country

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