What if the Queen got popped....

Cypher_sounds

During her stay in Ireland, what would actually happen if someone dusted off their sniper rifle and killed the Queen.

Would England declare war on us or what would be the repercussions, your thoughts?

jester77

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

During her stay in Ireland, what would actually happen if someone dusted off their sniper rifle and killed the Queen.

Would England declare war on us or what would be the repercussions, your thoughts?

They would probably have a funeral for her

Shane St.

Not likley. the irish gov wud condemn any assassination. it would be funny though

Mr Benevolent

They'd nuke us. No question.

Dravokivich

What if the Queen got popped....

I wasn't the only 1 thinking about her losing her virginty right?

orourkeda

jester77 wrote: »

They would probably have a funeral for her

Then a burial

NIMAN

Yeah they would hold an entire nation responsible and guilty for the death, and come over here killing tens of thousands?:rolleyes:

G_R

Cypher_sounds, the Gardaí and MI:5 will be at your location shortly. Please dont resist.

Degsy

The Smiths song would spring back into the charts!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz5IFl7uCis

NIMAN

Prince Charles would be a major suspect.:D

Sykk

Confab wrote: »

They'd nuke us. No question.

You're not very bright are you..?

Degsy

orourkeda wrote: »

Then a burial

We could give her an Osama Bin Laden burial at sea to save the British Taxpayer!

hondasam

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

During her stay in Ireland, what would actually happen if someone dusted off their sniper rifle and killed the Queen.

Would England declare war on us or what would be the repercussions, your thoughts?

Don't even joke about it. It would be a disaster for Ireland.

KeithAFC

Would probably kick the troubles off again.

Degsy

NIMAN wrote: »

Prince Charles would be a major suspect.:D

Not as much as Mohammed Al Fayed!

bonerm

Degsy wrote: »

We could give her an Osama Bin Laden burial at sea to save the British Taxpayer!

And then not make a visual document any of it (to avoid distressing them of course).

Frank Black

Someone would probably start a thread about it in AH.

Cypher_sounds

hondasam wrote: »

Don't even joke about it. It would be a disaster for Ireland.

Yeah I can imagine, as disastrous as the famine was for us possibly or even worse :eek:

cavemeister

Its something I am actually worried about.

I would guess that the UK might put a trade / travel embargo on us till the killer is brought to justice.

We wouldn't last a month without England!!

everything about irish life in English from most sport to tv to mobile services to shops... :eek:

Mr Benevolent

Sykk wrote: »

You're not very bright are you..?

I'm more intelligent than you but not as serious. Sarcasm detector broken eh?

Oink

hondasam wrote: »

Don't even joke about it. It would be a disaster for Ireland.

Yup. we'd look like a 3rd world country ruled by clowns. EDIT: in that we can't organise proper security.

*cough*

Biggins

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

During her stay in Ireland, what would actually happen if someone dusted off their sniper rifle and killed the Queen.
Would England declare war on us or what would be the repercussions, your thoughts?

1. England would not officially declare war.
2. Every Irish person had better get off English soil just in case of repercussions at street level.
3. English based businesses might be put under pressure to pull out or close shop.
4. The now cordiality that generally exists between England and Ireland would be set back decades if not centuries!

Dislike the Queen coming here if one wishes - but hope to 'whatever' that she leaves in one alive healthy piece too!
...If only for our long term sake!

mgmt

I recommend people to read about the Phoenix Park murders. The Chief Secretary Lord Frederick Cavendish, and Under Secretary, Thomas Burk were murdered in the Phoenix Park right outside the Áras an Uachtaráin. The deed was carried out by Irish Nationalists, naming themselves the Invincibles, in 1882.

Really fascinating stuff. An event that shook the Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Park_Murders

Sykk

Confab wrote: »

Sarcasm detector broken eh?

No, your sarcasm detector seems to be faulty it seems. Perhaps I just raised your sarcasm with more sarcasm?

Confab wrote: »

I'm more intelligent than you but not as serious

Sure

rounding tattenham Corner

there would be a lot of anti-irishness in the right wing media and possibly there would be the requirement from now on to produce a passport when entering main land Britain, but that's about it.

Latchy

Wouldn't be in either countrys interest .....to put it mildly

KeithAFC

If anyone did that, they are just asking for another civil war on this island. Not to mention English people volunteering too.

hondasam

Cypher_sounds wrote: »

Yeah I can imagine, as disastrous as the famine was for us possibly or even worse :eek:

was she responsible for the famine ?

you really think the majority of Irish people would be proud if The Queen was killed here.

Panthro

It would probably be the best lager in the world

Cypher_sounds

Biggins wrote: »

1. England would not officially declare war.
2. Every Irish person had better get off English soil just in case of repercussions at street level.
3. English based businesses might be put under pressure to pull out or close shop.
4. The now cordiality that generally exists between England and Ireland would be set back decades if not centuries!

Dislike the Queen coming here if one wishes - but hope to 'whatever' that she leaves in one alive healthy piece too!
...If only for our long term sake!

Just the kind of reply I'm looking for, I dont particularly mind that she is coming here but of course there is a small possibility that something awful like this could happen no matter how high the security is, and I was thinking about it earlier about the effect it would have on all of us living here which i can imagine would be pretty massive.

bonerm

Oink wrote: »

Yup. we'd look like a 3rd world country ruled by clowns.

*cough*

The only difference between a clown and Bertie is that Ahern had a bigger budget for make-up.

Cypher_sounds

hondasam wrote: »

was she responsible for the famine ?

you really think the majority of Irish people would be proud if The Queen was killed here.

Whoahh horse, I was only making a admittedly joking/stupid comparison and to answer your second question/statement of course I dont think that, do you?

Morlar

mgmt wrote: »

I recommend people to read about the Phoenix Park murders. The Chief Secretary Lord Frederick Cavendish, and Under Secretary, Thomas Burk were murdered in the Phoenix Park right outside the Áras an Uachtaráin. The deed was carried out by Irish Nationalists, naming themselves the Invincibles, in 1882.

Really fascinating stuff. An event that shook the Union.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Park_Murders

Michael Collins' Squad (including Vinny Byrne) along with the Soloheadbeg men also came close to getting Lord Lieutenant, Field Marshall Sir John French at Ashtown :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_French,_1st_Earl_of_Ypres

In May 1918, he was appointed British Viceroy, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland and Supreme Commander of the British Army in Ireland.
[edit] Ashtown ambush

On 19 December 1919, an Irish Republican Army unit which consisted of 11 volunteers, including Seán Treacy, Seamus Robinson, Seán Hogan, Paddy Daly (Leader), Joe Leonard, Martin Savage and Dan Breen, planned to assassinate Lord French, head of the Dublin Castle administration in Ireland. An ambush was organised as he returned from a private party which he had hosted the previous evening at his country residence in Frenchpark, County Roscommon.[5]

The volunteers' intelligence operative had informed the unit that Lord French would be travelling in the second car of the armed convoy that comprised an outrider and three following cars which would bring Lord French from Ashtown railway station to the Vice-Regal Lodge in Phoenix Park, Dublin.[6]
[edit] Events of the day

The IRA unit gathered at Fleming's Pub in Drumcondra and left in small groups to avoid raising suspicion as they cycled through Phibsboro and up the Cabra Road. They regrouped at Kelly's Public House (now called the Halfway House) in Ashtown. At approximately 11:40 a.m., as the train carrying Lord French pulled into the station, the unit left the pub and took up positions along the crossroads at Ashtown.

The plan was for Martin Savage, Tom Kehoe and Dan Breen to push a hay-cart halfway across the road and then, after the out-rider and the first car had passed, they would push it the rest of the way across the road, thereby completely blocking the path of the remaining vehicles. They had been informed that Lord French was to be in the second car and this car would be attacked with grenades (known as Mills Bombs at the time) and concentrated rifle fire.

As they pushed the hay-cart across the road their plan was almost foiled as a Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) officer disturbed them, telling them to move on. One of IRA men lobbed a grenade at him, although it didn't explode it struck the police officer on the head, knocking him unconscious. The police officer was then dragged from the road and the attack went ahead as planned.[7]
[edit] Lord French's car and the gun battle

When the convoy appeared minutes later, the IRA unit attacked the second car forcing it to swerve off the road. However, unknown to the unit, Lord French was travelling in the first car and managed to drive through the blockade. The occupants of the second car, part of Lord French's guard, returned fire. As the gun battle developed the third car arrived on the other side of the cart and began firing with rifles and machine-guns on the now exposed IRA fighters.

In the crossfire Dan Breen was shot in the leg and seconds later Savage fell mortally wounded after being hit by a bullet in the neck. He died in the arms of Dan Breen and his last words to Breen were "I'm done, but carry on....". Tom Kehoe and the wounded Dan Breen carried Savage's body from the road and back to Kelly’s Pub while the gunfight continued.[8]

Two Dublin Metropolitan Police officers were also wounded in the gun battle. At this point the British military, including some wounded, began to withdraw from the scene and continued on towards Phoenix Park. Realising reinforcements would be on their way, the IRA unit then dispersed to safe houses in the Dublin area. Dan Breen was helped onto his bike by Paddy Daly who helped him to a safehouse in the Phibsboro' area, where he was attended to by the captain of the Dublin hurling team, Dr J.M. Ryan.

Deedsie

KeithAFC wrote: »

If anyone did that, they are just asking for another civil war on this island. Not to mention English people volunteering too.

If it's a civil war against the culprits, I reckon it'd be stacked around 6,192,100 against 5000.

Panthro

It would be the biggest game of "Cludo" the world has ever seen:pac:

Ruu_Old

Facking Paddies! :mad:

red menace

It would make the country seem like more of an international basket case.
Can't control the banks, can't protect a visiting dignitary,.
British companies would probably think twice about doing business here.
It would turn a lot of tourists away from Ireland.
Not to mention an increase in violence and reprisals from dissidents.

Magic Eight Ball

Am I the only one that thinks it would make for good television?

Panthro

Ruu wrote: »

Facking Paddies! :mad:

Feckin Ruutopian's:mad:

cavemeister

Not to mention the amount of Irish pubs that would likely be burned to the ground in the UK the day of her funeral!!

Wolfe Tone

I would go to the pub.

And everyone would cop that this visit was a retarded idea.

bonerm

On the plus side thanks to advancement in consumer electronics the footage would be much shaper than the Zapruder film.

Eric Cartman

sky news would have an orgasm knowing they didnt have to put any effort into reporting anything but this for the next month


i wouldnt be surprised/sad/happy about it , it wouldnt bother me in the slightest

Quandary

An assassination attempt on the queen...

Surely no deluded group/person would be stupid enough to try it?

Although then again, there are some exceptionally blinkered people in this country who are naive enough to let themselves get whipped up into an "up the RAAAAAA" frenzy.

I can only image how badly it would affect this country if it happened.

Panthro

I would buy myself a jambon and eat it.

Morlar

bonerm wrote: »

On the plus side thanks to advancement in consumer electronics the footage would be much shaper than the Zapruder film.

It'd deffo win the prize for world's best 'HD 3d + surround sound' assasination.

Opelfruit

KeithAFC wrote: »

If anyone did that, they are just asking for another civil war on this island. Not to mention English people volunteering too.

Don't be ridiculous! As laughable as an attempt on the Queen's life may seem, believing that one of the repercussions would be civil war is ludicrous!

KeithAFC

Opelfruit wrote: »

Don't be ridiculous! As laughable as an attempt on the Queen's life may seem, believing that one of the repercussions would be civil war is ludicrous!

Why is it ridiculous? There is a lot of people on the island who do admire the Queen. So killing her on this island ain't going to look good when we are after all in a peace process.

If it did happen, it would be insane.

sollar

Poor aul lizzy, i think she'll be received ok next week. There will be a few people with plackards shouting from the sidelines but that'll be about the height of it imo.

Panthro

KeithAFC wrote: »

Why is it ridiculous? There is a lot of people on the island who do admire the Queen.

Hah?!:p

RoryMac

KeithAFC wrote: »

Would probably kick the troubles off again.

Good, at least with the troubles we didn't have to close down our capital city so someone could ponce about sight-seeing!