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whey protien
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12-05-2011 11:47AM#1ok after 4 months in the gym and some serious stubbornness ive finally decided to get some whey protien
.........just wondering whens the best time to take it?? obv straight after workout but i think ill need 2 a day..also i got no scoop 
...2 tbps be the same or?? any advice appreciated never taken whey before 0
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pecker1992 wrote: »ok after 4 months in the gym and some serious stubbornness ive finally decided to get some whey protien.........just wondering whens the best time to take it?? obv straight after workout but i think ill need 2 a day..also i got no scoop ...2 tbps be the same or?? any advice appreciated never taken whey before
Well done! If taken correctly it will seriously improver any gains in the gym.
I recommend before you take it that you buy yourself if you dont have any a good fish oil supplement and a good multi vitamain.
Best time to take is after the gym and before. What I would recommend is put 3 scoops in your shaker. Fill with water/milk before. Drink about a quater of it before the gym and the rest after. I'd say you got a scoop alright. I thought this for ages but then when I got down to the bottom of the tub there it was I was disgusted! lol So be sure to check inside the powder thats where they normally put it!
The equivelent would be 2 dessert spoons(heaped)0 -
pecker1992 wrote: »ok after 4 months in the gym and some serious stubbornness ive finally decided to get some whey protien.........just wondering whens the best time to take it?? obv straight after workout but i think ill need 2 a day..also i got no scoop ...2 tbps be the same or?? any advice appreciated never taken whey before
Why? What do you expect to gain from taking whey protein? have you worked out how many grams of protein you need daily and is your current diet deficient in protein which cannot be ingested from normal food?
Whey is a protein source, pure and simple. It is not a magic powder. It will do nothing that eating extra chicken, tuna, eggs, steak etc would not also do.
It is convenient. If there is a long period of time between the time you finish a workout and when you can take in food, then whey is good for filling that gap. If it is possible that you can eat a proper mean within 60-90 minutes of finishing your workout , then you probably don't need wheystephenpalmer wrote: »Well done! If taken correctly it will seriously improver any gains in the gym.
Not really. It is as stated above not better or worse than protein from any other sourcestephenpalmer wrote: »I recommend before you take it that you buy yourself if you dont have any a good fish oil supplement and a good multi vitamain.
You should be sure that your entire eating plan is up to scratch before considereing supplements. As stated above supplements are meant to be used to fill gaps in a good eating stratergy. They should not be the main stay of your eating stratergy.stephenpalmer wrote: »Best time to take is after the gym and before. What I would recommend is put 3 scoops in your shaker. Fill with water/milk before. Drink about a quater of it before the gym and the rest after.
If you eating plan is up to scratch, then I don't see what is to be gained from chugging a shake before training. Also the amount to take will depend on the brand bought, how much protein is delivered per serving and the OP's daily protein requirements. Lastly, Personally I cannot stand a warm shake, so I would not be inclined to leave a mixed shake stand in my locker at room tempature while I workout.stephenpalmer wrote: »I'd say you got a scoop alright. I thought this for ages but then when I got down to the bottom of the tub there it was I was disgusted! lol So be sure to check inside the powder thats where they normally put it!
Quite possibly true.stephenpalmer wrote: »The equivelent would be 2 dessert spoons(heaped)
The easy solution is to check on the tub/package to see what size a recommended serving is. Then using a desert spoon and scales measure out a serving. You only need to do this once to gauage a serving and from then on you simply use approimately the same amount.0 -
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TommyKnocker wrote: »Why? What do you expect to gain from taking whey protein? have you worked out how many grams of protein you need daily and is your current diet deficient in protein which cannot be ingested from normal food?
Whey is a protein source, pure and simple. It is not a magic powder. It will do nothing that eating extra chicken, tuna, eggs, steak etc would not also do.
It is convenient. If there is a long period of time between the time you finish a workout and when you can take in food, then whey is good for filling that gap. If it is possible that you can eat a proper mean within 60-90 minutes of finishing your workout , then you probably don't need whey
Not really. It is as stated above not better or worse than protein from any other source
You should be sure that your entire eating plan is up to scratch before considereing supplements. As stated above supplements are meant to be used to fill gaps in a good eating stratergy. They should not be the main stay of your eating stratergy.
If you eating plan is up to scratch, then I don't see what is to be gained from chugging a shake before training. Also the amount to take will depend on the brand bought, how much protein is delivered per serving and the OP's daily protein requirements. Lastly, Personally I cannot stand a warm shake, so I would not be inclined to leave a mixed shake stand in my locker at room tempature while I workout.
Quite possibly true.
The easy solution is to check on the tub/package to see what size a recommended serving is. Then using a desert spoon and scales measure out a serving. You only need to do this once to gauage a serving and from then on you simply use approimately the same amount.
Yes i have a very good diet......good carbs good protien & good fats......im quite up to scratch on that thanks..............and i just need to get more protien as yo said 1 i cant get the post workout meal fast enough...and 2 its very convienient fir the extra 50g protien..... but thanks
and stephen thanks for the reply...ill take everything you've said on-board 
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pecker1992 wrote: »ok after 4 months in the gym and some serious stubbornness ive finally decided to get some whey protien.........just wondering whens the best time to take it?? obv straight after workout but i think ill need 2 a day..also i got no scoop ...2 tbps be the same or?? any advice appreciated never taken whey before
Its in there... you gotta dig deep!!;)TommyKnocker wrote: »The easy solution is to check on the tub/package to see what size a recommended serving is. Then using a desert spoon and scales measure out a serving. You only need to do this once to gauage a serving and from then on you simply use approimately the same amount.
Just on this topic i use USN protein and on the tub it says 1 heaped scoop is = to 34g yet on the scoop itself it says 50g??? It also says that for every 34g you get 24g of protein, so how much am i actually taking? very confusing!0 -
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SpaceCowb0y wrote: »Its in there... you gotta dig deep!!;)
Just on this topic i use USN protein and on the tub it says 1 heaped scoop is = to 34g yet on the scoop itself it says 50g??? It also says that for every 34g you get 24g of protein, so how much am i actually taking? very confusing!
On a volume basis, the protein may be less than whatever was used when measuring the scoop size. Like 50g of waxy maize starch has a lower volume (or is it density??!) than 50g of protein so a 'full' scoop of each gives different weight.
If there's 24g of protein in 34g of product is 70%, which is quite poor. You'd want to be looking at 76-80% protein at minimum next time you buy 0 -
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Interesting piece on another forum regarding the % protein on the product label and the actual % when tested, thought I may aswell post it here:On a volume basis, the protein may be less than whatever was used when measuring the scoop size. Like 50g of waxy maize starch has a lower volume (or is it density??!) than 50g of protein so a 'full' scoop of each gives different weight.
If there's 24g of protein in 34g of product is 70%, which is quite poor. You'd want to be looking at 76-80% protein at minimum next time you buy
Protein Test Results
Many brands claim to possess products with market leading levels of protein but when they are placed under greater scrutiny, they just don’t stack up.
This means that as the consumer, you may well be paying for something that you simply aren’t receiving. We understand that you don’t want to pay for a product that doesn’t deliver on its claims. In a similar vein Reflex feel passionately about providing a product that delivers what it claims. Indeed, we often deliver greater levels of protein than we claim.
The purpose of these tests will be to check Reflex products alongside leading competitors who claim market leading levels of protein.
The tests will be carried out by independent ISO accredited laboratories who have no connection or affiliation with Reflex. The results will be captured below with the original result certificates included in the form of pdf documents.
Claimed Protein % From Manufacturers Label
Brand Product Protein % on Label
Reflex Instant Whey 78%
USN 100% Whey Protein 80%
Sportslab Technologies Massive Whey 76%
PhD Pharma-Whey 80%
MRM Metabolic Whey 76%
Met-Rx Supreme Whey 72%
Garnell High Performance Whey 77%
Extreme Performance Whey 72%
EAS MyoProWhey 77%
Dymatize Elite Whey 78%
Optimum 100% Whey 82%
TEST RESULTS
Brand Product Protein %
Reflex Instant Whey 909gm Choc-Mint 78.0
Reflex Instant Whey 2.27kg Banana 77.9
Reflex MicroWhey 2.27kg Vanilla 86.7
Reflex Instant Whey 2.27kg Chocolate 79.1
Reflex Instant Whey 2.27kg Strawberry 82.5
Reflex Instant Whey Chocolate 79.7
Reflex Instant Whey Strawberry 76.8
USN 100% Whey Protein Strawberry 73.1
USN 100% Whey Protein Chocolate 69.3
Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Strawberry 80.0
Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey Chocolate 78.0
EAS 100% Whey Whey Protein Chocolate 75.3
EAS 100% Whey Whey Protein Strawberry 72.6
Dymatize Elite Whey Berry Black 67.6
Dymatize Elite Whey Berry Blast 67.6
Dymatize Elite Whey Chocolate 67.0
Dymatize Elite Whey Rich Chocolate 65.8
Dymatize Elite Whey Berry Blast 68.7
Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Standard Double Rich Chocolate 77.9
Optimum Nutrition Whey Gold Standard Delicous Strawberry 81.8
USN 100% Whey Protein Chocolate Cream 71.5
USN 100% Whey Protein Strawberry Cream 74.00 -
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also make sure not to be taking too much protein in one go.After about 30 grams your body can't absord it so the rest will be pooped out.Make sure your protein intake is spread evenly enough throughout the day and try not take more than 30g in one go.It'l just save you a bitta money on powder in the long run.
Your joking yes?...0 -
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gymsoldier wrote: »If going by "gant0's" lack of knowledge, a 240lb bodybuilder wanting to consume 1.5grams per-pound of bodyweight would need to eat every 2hrs for 24hrs never getting any sleep to consume the required 360 grams of protein @ 30grams a time.
Yeah, thats what I find handy about the iPhone - you can set multiple alarms so that it goes of every 2 hours during the night so that you can wake up to get your 30 grams of protein. Before, I had to have 5 alarm clocks which took up a lot of space on my bedside cabinet. 0 -
On a volume basis, the protein may be less than whatever was used when measuring the scoop size. Like 50g of waxy maize starch has a lower volume (or is it density??!) than 50g of protein so a 'full' scoop of each gives different weight.
If there's 24g of protein in 34g of product is 70%, which is quite poor. You'd want to be looking at 76-80% protein at minimum next time you buy
Im still confused ha! what does the 50g on the scoop mean then, nothing?
any suggestions on what to go for next im nearly finished the tb i have anyway? I was thinking of swithing to ON Gold standard but seen an video on youtube where some guy who has his own supplement store talks about protein powders and pretty much says he wouldnt use it as its pretty low too? The whey isolate on MyProtein is about 90% and only €50 so im thinkin perhaps thats the next il get but it could taste like crap, and mix bad i dont know?0 -
SpaceCowb0y wrote: »Im still confused ha! what does the 50g on the scoop mean then, nothing?
It means it weighs 50g of SOME product 0 -
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