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Sean Og: I'd play under a different manager

  • 12-05-2011 10:43am
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭


    Hears a surprise Sean Og talking to the press again. Time he got over himself and realise he's not bigger then the team....

    Sean Og: I'd play under a different manager

    seanog.jpg[SIZE=-1]Cork's Sean Og O'hAilpin[/SIZE]12 May 2011


    Sean Og O hAilpin has revealed he would have no hesitation in reviving his Cork career if Denis Walsh was replaced as manager.

    Walsh effectively ended O hAilpin's 14-year inter-county career last October when he sensationally axed him from his panel, but even at 33, the 2005 All-Ireland winning captain still habours hopes of pulling on the red jersey again.

    "If I was asked would I get involved this year, no. It's as simple as that. Not under the current management. If a new manager was to come in next year and if he was still interested, then yes, I'd be very open to it, but not under the current management," said O hAlipin, who was recently granted the Freedom of Cork and continues to line out for his club Na Piarsaigh.



    "If a manager tells you you're not part of his plans, that's it. There's no point being in a place if you're not wanted. "I'm still hurt by the manner in which it was dealt with. I thought it could have been dealt with a lot better but it's water under the bridge, it's happened."

    Ó hAilpín feels he still has something to offer to Cork, adding: "I had serious ambitions of being involved for another year or two. I'd know myself if my days were up. Obviously I didn't have the most sterling year last year but I thought I did okay and thought I made a contribution.

    "If I wasn't being given first-team place, I'd love to have been given the chance to win a first-team place back."


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    sendit wrote: »
    Hears a surprise Sean Og talking to the press again. Time he got over himself and realise he's not bigger then the team....

    Sean Og: I'd play under a different manager

    seanog.jpg[SIZE=-1]Cork's Sean Og O'hAilpin[/SIZE]12 May 2011


    Sean Og O hAilpin has revealed he would have no hesitation in reviving his Cork career if Denis Walsh was replaced as manager.

    Walsh effectively ended O hAilpin's 14-year inter-county career last October when he sensationally axed him from his panel, but even at 33, the 2005 All-Ireland winning captain still habours hopes of pulling on the red jersey again.

    "If I was asked would I get involved this year, no. It's as simple as that. Not under the current management. If a new manager was to come in next year and if he was still interested, then yes, I'd be very open to it, but not under the current management," said O hAlipin, who was recently granted the Freedom of Cork and continues to line out for his club Na Piarsaigh.



    "If a manager tells you you're not part of his plans, that's it. There's no point being in a place if you're not wanted. "I'm still hurt by the manner in which it was dealt with. I thought it could have been dealt with a lot better but it's water under the bridge, it's happened."

    Ó hAilpín feels he still has something to offer to Cork, adding: "I had serious ambitions of being involved for another year or two. I'd know myself if my days were up. Obviously I didn't have the most sterling year last year but I thought I did okay and thought I made a contribution.

    "If I wasn't being given first-team place, I'd love to have been given the chance to win a first-team place back."


    does the phrase 'water under the bridge' not mean that things have happened and there is no point in dwelling on them?

    yet Sean Og procedes to continue on his rant of how he was treated unfairly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    If its not Roy Keane its Sean Og seriously what is it? Do they put something in the water down there? When ROG retires are we going to have to listen to him whinging for years about all and sundry aswell?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭Royal Seahawk


    It's actually getting ridiculous now. Thank God the Cork hurling team of the last ten years is coming to its end because I'm sick to the teeth of listening to them whining. How is coming out and essentially undermining the current Manager going to help Cork hurling this year? What exactly is his plan coming out with this sh1te?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 936 ✭✭✭Fentdog84


    In fairness to Sean Og he's entitled to feel a bit hard done by. He is a pure 24/7 Athlete who really looks after himself, the same way like Tony Browne and could easily keep going a few more years. But he should keep quiet as he's making himself look kinda pitiful now.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭sendit


    The thing i dont understand is he was one of the main people in the strike to get Walsh as manager and now 2 years later he's saying he wont play for him


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    sendit wrote: »
    The thing i dont understand is he was one of the main people in the strike to get Walsh as manager and now 2 years later he's saying he wont play for him


    That be Cork City type thing, even us Cork people say they is weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    If its not Roy Keane its Sean Og seriously what is it? Do they put something in the water down there? When ROG retires are we going to have to listen to him whinging for years about all and sundry aswell?


    Sure dont ye have Babs Keating???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Sure dont ye have Babs Keating???

    Big difference there mate, I have no problem coming out and saying that for the last 15 years babs has been making a tit of himself on a regular basis and loves the sound of he's own voice.

    On the other hand you have spent all day yesterday defending Roy Keane in the soccer forum blindly ignoring all hes faults and hes ''look at me im a langer'' ways and I have a distinct feeling your about to spout the same here. ;)

    Loyalty to ones own and an absolute failure to spot any wrong doing by any of their own really is a ''Cork thing'', peoples republic of talking shi*e :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    Jokeshop from the one trick strike pony, The damage caused by him and others to Cork hurling will take twenty years to overcome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Big difference there mate, I have no problem coming out and saying that for the last 15 years babs has been making a tit of himself on a regular basis and loves the sound of he's own voice.

    On the other hand you have spent all day yesterday defending Roy Keane in the soccer forum blindly ignoring all hes faults and hes ''look at me im a langer'' ways and I have a distinct feeling your about to spout the same here. ;)

    Loyalty to ones own and an absolute failure to spot any wrong doing by any of their own really is a ''Cork thing'', peoples republic of talking shi*e :D

    Your actually 100% wrong there..If you look at those posts again You quite clearly see that other people facts were wrong, but sure go on ignore it eh....

    Anyway what the hell does Roy Keane got do with this?????

    Must be something in the water in Thurles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Must be something in the water in Thurles

    I wouldnt know, dont live anywhere near thurles, Tipp is a big old county you know :p

    And Babs is actually from Ballybacon which is in South Tipp and even further from thurles but interestingly very near to Cork..... Could explain alot ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    I wouldnt know, dont live anywhere near thurles, Tipp is a big old county you know :p

    And Babs is actually from Ballybacon which is in South Tipp and even further from thurles but interestingly very near to Cork..... Could explain alot ;)

    Ah right, so your location is wrong then;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Ah right, so your location is wrong then;)

    Nope, Tipp is the home of hurling my good man, surely if you taking my location literally you would have thought i lived in Hayes Hotel??

    If we are to take locations literally and be so pedantic so are you suffering from sort of multiple personality disorder, you poor crater!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    Nope, Tipp is the home of hurling my good man, surely if you taking my location literally you would have thought i lived in Hayes Hotel??

    If we are to take locations literally and be so pedantic so are you suffering from sort of multiple personality disorder, you poor crater!

    lol ah Jesus


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    Lads, back on topic. I fail to see what Thurles, Babs or Roy Keane has got to do with any of this!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,041 ✭✭✭who the fug


    Daysha wrote: »
    Lads, back on topic. I fail to see what Thurles, Babs or Roy Keane has got to do with any of this!


    All of them wish they could play for Cork


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭Daysha


    All of them wish they could play for Cork

    Thurles wishes it could play for Cork? What?

    I said back on topic so that's the end of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭deisedude


    Sean Og is entitled to feel hard done by. Dont think there are many better options than him in Cork at present and he should be at least worth a place on the panel. By all means give the likes of Egan a chance of starting in the half back line and Sean Og could be decent back up or sub option. Perhaps airing his dirty laundry in public isnt the best way of doing it though

    Someone made the point earlier that the Cork players fought for Denis Walsh to be appointed. In reality he is only there because he was the only one the players and county board could agree on. Either way you can expect this year to be his last unless he can somehow radically improve this Cork team


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    deisedude wrote: »
    Sean Og is entitled to feel hard done by. Dont think there are many better options than him in Cork at present and he should be at least worth a place on the panel. By all means give the likes of Egan a chance of starting in the half back line and Sean Og could be decent back up or sub option. Perhaps airing his dirty laundry in public isnt the best way of doing it though

    Someone made the point earlier that the Cork players fought for Denis Walsh to be appointed. In reality he is only there because he was the only one the players and county board could agree on. Either way you can expect this year to be his last unless he can somehow radically improve this Cork team

    yes, last November when he was dropped and went public about it then. we are now at the beginning of the championship and he is still in the media whining about it. he should take his own advice and let it be water under the bridge and move on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    bruschi wrote: »
    yes, last November when he was dropped and went public about it then. we are now at the beginning of the championship and he is still in the media whining about it. he should take his own advice and let it be water under the bridge and move on.

    Totally agree, as a Cork supporter he is doing himself and his image no good with this petty stuff.

    He was a fantastic hurler one of the greats even better then people give him credit for but this nonsense is childish.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 4,145 Mod ✭✭✭✭bruschi


    Totally agree, as a Cork supporter he is doing himself and his image no good with this petty stuff.

    He was a fantastic hurler one of the greats even better then people give him credit for but this nonsense is childish.

    yup, would agree with that. I was a huge admirer of him playing for Cork. whilst he was never flashy, he was some man to read a breaking ball and surge out of defence.

    but I am getting fair sick of him now. its a case the more he goes on like this, the less people will remember him for his hurling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    bruschi wrote: »
    yup, would agree with that. I was a huge admirer of him playing for Cork. whilst he was never flashy, he was some man to read a breaking ball and surge out of defence.

    but I am getting fair sick of him now. its a case the more he goes on like this, the less people will remember him for his hurling.

    Yes I see your point and would agree. I do think he was treated poorly alright but being childish and not being able to take it is stupid and childish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Yeah I was probably a bit harsh on him in my original posts in that I didnt recognise that he was indeed a magnificent servant to Cork hurling and I would never argue against that he was an incredible athlete and competitor, and all round ambassador for the GAA and the Irish language aswell.

    I just hope he can put all this behind him and not tarnish he's reputation which he is in acute danger of doing, as the saying goes ''your only as good as your last game'' and in Sean Ogs case perhaps as good as he's last interview, which as I said would be a travesty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭dartbhoy


    Sean Og was a great servant for Cork but his time had come to an end. The best thing for him and Cork hurling now is to accept his fate with grace and wish the Cork management and team the best of luck for the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭moomoocow


    He seems to think hes the only player to ever be drop from a county team


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 243 ✭✭zxcvbnm12


    sendit wrote: »
    The thing i dont understand is he was one of the main people in the strike to get Walsh as manager and now 2 years later he's saying he wont play for him
    couldnt agree more


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭hsbc


    Was there ever any talk of him being picked for the county football panel??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    hsbc wrote: »
    Was there ever any talk of him being picked for the county football panel??
    Bad idea.

    The footballers do not need him plus with his track record you would see the team out on strike within weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    If its not Roy Keane its Sean Og seriously what is it? Do they put something in the water down there? When ROG retires are we going to have to listen to him whinging for years about all and sundry aswell?

    Look if you're not from Cork you wouldn't really have a genuine understanding of the cynicism of the Cork County Board, led by Frank Murphy, towards the Cork players (particularly those who have been through the strikes, like Donal Óg Cusack and Seán Óg O hAilpín). The signs, through team selections and strange decisions by Denis Walsh, is that DW was a Cork County Board appointment and the executive are hell bent on squeezing the last of the prodigal sons in their eyes, or the all star and all Ireland medal winners in most others!

    If the next manager to get in next year is to Frank's liking, or if DW is kept on, then Donal Óg will be next to get the curly finger! This dropping of Seán Óg is about payback time and has sweet F all to do with bringing the youth through, as the likes of the O'Connor twins, Tom Kenny, Kieran Murphy, etc. are still there or there abouts on the team


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    Show Time wrote: »
    Jokeshop from the one trick strike pony, The damage caused by him and others to Cork hurling will take twenty years to overcome.

    No damage done by Gerald McCarthy, Frank Murphy and his Cronies or that sneak Nicky Brennan of course....

    Guys like Seán Óg, Diarmuid O'Sullivan, Joe Deane, etc. should be appointed as coaches in the centre of excellence to bring on the 15, 16 and 17 years to sufficient standard to genuinely compete in minor and U21 for silverware. Instead there are CCB A***lickers like Seanie McGrath, Teddy Mac, etc. put in charge of these teams and they are out of championship before the end of June or in the case of our minors this year in early May!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    No damage done by Gerald McCarthy, Frank Murphy and his Cronies or that sneak Nicky Brennan of course....

    Guys like Seán Óg, Diarmuid O'Sullivan, Joe Deane, etc. should be appointed as coaches in the centre of excellence to bring on the 15, 16 and 17 years to sufficient standard to genuinely compete in minor and U21 for silverware. Instead there are CCB A***lickers like Seanie McGrath, Teddy Mac, etc. put in charge of these teams and they are out of championship before the end of June or in the case of our minors this year in early May!
    The campaign to get Gerald McCarthy out was revolting and then two years down the road when Denis Walsh dumps Sean Og from the team we get the same type of carry on from him and his little brother took his hurley and went home as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    Look if you're not from Cork you wouldn't really have a genuine understanding of the cynicism of the Cork County Board, led by Frank Murphy, towards the Cork players (particularly those who have been through the strikes, like Donal Óg Cusack and Seán Óg O hAilpín). The signs, through team selections and strange decisions by Denis Walsh, is that DW was a Cork County Board appointment and the executive are hell bent on squeezing the last of the prodigal sons in their eyes, or the all star and all Ireland medal winners in most others!

    If the next manager to get in next year is to Frank's liking, or if DW is kept on, then Donal Óg will be next to get the curly finger! This dropping of Seán Óg is about payback time and has sweet F all to do with bringing the youth through, as the likes of the O'Connor twins, Tom Kenny, Kieran Murphy, etc. are still there or there abouts on the team

    Thats a nice spin to put on it, lol and who put them through the strikes??


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    No damage done by Gerald McCarthy, Frank Murphy and his Cronies or that sneak Nicky Brennan of course....

    Guys like Seán Óg, Diarmuid O'Sullivan, Joe Deane, etc. should be appointed as coaches in the centre of excellence to bring on the 15, 16 and 17 years to sufficient standard to genuinely compete in minor and U21 for silverware. Instead there are CCB A***lickers like Seanie McGrath, Teddy Mac, etc. put in charge of these teams and they are out of championship before the end of June or in the case of our minors this year in early May!

    Diarmuid O Sullivan has only managed junior a team in Limerick afaik and I wasnt aware Joe Deane was involved in coaching at all??

    And so anyone who takes a coaching job in Cork is an ars*licker?? I heard Frank Murphy eats children :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    Thats a nice spin to put on it, lol and who put them through the strikes??

    The CCB and the horrendous training conditions and facilities and standards ar first in 2002, then the stand off with the Footballers and the obvious, attempted county board appointment of Teddy Holland for the footballers in 2008 (by the way Conor Counihan was then appointed and two all ireland finals, two munsters and one all ireland football since) and finally the opposition to the reappointment of Gerald McCarthy who we all know was a terrible coach (didn't know guys names, had goalkeepers doing overhead pulling, etc.). You're suggesting that they put themselves through the strikes? Laughable! :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    Diarmuid O Sullivan has only managed junior a team in Limerick afaik and I wasnt aware Joe Deane was involved in coaching at all??

    And so anyone who takes a coaching job in Cork is an ars*licker?? I heard Frank Murphy eats children :rolleyes:

    What an extraordinary way to interpret my comments. Clearly, you know very little about what really happens in Cork hurling. You have yer all ireland now and be happy with that. Don't be annoying us down here :D

    See ye in Thurles Sunday week too. Nothing like the Blood and Bandage to put the panic stations on your lot :p


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    Show Time wrote: »
    The campaign to get Gerald McCarthy out was revolting and then two years down the road when Denis Walsh dumps Sean Og from the team we get the same type of carry on from him and his little brother took his hurley and went home as well.

    Make it sound like a presidential campaign for the White House :rolleyes:

    How about the campaign of Frank and his flock to get their own back? Or will you avoid that question?

    Only bonus of the Sean Og thing is that his little brother, who clearly wasnt up to it, went back to Oz. That's not home by the way!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    What an extraordinary way to interpret my comments. Clearly, you know very little about what really happens in Cork hurling. You have yer all ireland now and be happy with that. Don't be annoying us down here :D

    See ye in Thurles Sunday week too. Nothing like the Blood and Bandage to put the panic stations on your lot :p

    You have conveniently ignored my obs re Rock and Deane and what you think would make them good appointments as coaches?? Im not suggesting they wouldnt but just curious as to what the thinking about naming them was.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    You have conveniently ignored my obs re Rock and Deane and what you think would make them good appointments as coaches?? Im not suggesting they wouldnt but just curious as to what the thinking about naming them was.

    Joe Deane - One all ireland minor (1995), two all ireland U21 (1997, 1998), three all ireland seniors (1999, 2004, 2005), numerous all stars (3+), generally accepted as one of the greats of his generation!

    Diarmuid O'Sullivan - Two all ireland U21 (97, 98), three all ireland seniors (99, 04, 05), numerous all stars (3 or 4?), again one of the best in his position for 10 years.

    I know they have limited coaching experience but what other characters of the modern game, a lot different to the game 20 or 30 years ago (faster, more skillful, etc.), in Cork would one nominate?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Blue Magic wrote: »

    How about the campaign of Frank and his flock to get their own back? Or will you avoid that question?

    Only bonus of the Sean Og thing is that his little brother, who clearly wasnt up to it, went back to Oz. That's not home by the way!

    All the anti DW and pro Sean og flock (;)) argue that the droping of golden balls had nothing to do with hurling and was payback for the strikes, yet DW was the one who persisted and had faith with hes beanpole brother, why would he do that if he was under pressure from the cb to get rid of Sean og, doesnt make any sense, heaven forbid he might actually have droped him because he isnt good enough anymore. Sean ogs entire game was built around hes amazing fitness levels and determination and of course at 34 years of age and 15 years of intercounty senior hurling those are both on the wane, its called natural wastage get over it.

    And added to this if Denis Walsh felt he was a negative influence in the dressingroom, as a neutral lookin in all the evidence points to this, then of course he was right to cut him from the panel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭Blue Magic


    All the anti DW and pro Sean og flock (;)) argue that the droping of golden balls had nothing to do with hurling and was payback for the strikes, yet DW was the one who persisted and had faith with hes beanpole brother, why would he do that if he was under pressure from the cb to get rid of Sean og, doesnt make any sense, heaven forbid he might actually have droped him because he isnt good enough anymore. Sean ogs entire game was built around hes amazing fitness levels and determination and of course at 34 years of age and 15 years of intercounty senior hurling those are both on the wane, its called natural wastage get over it.

    And added to this if Denis Walsh felt he was a negative influence in the dressingroom, as a neutral lookin in all the evidence points to this, then of course he was right to cut him from the panel.

    Tony Browne is 38 in Juy. Sean Óg is 34 and his fitness levels are famous in the game. Seán Óg a negative influence in the dressing room? What current cork hurler were you talking too?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    Tony Browne is 38 in Juy. Sean Óg is 34 and his fitness levels are famous in the game. Seán Óg a negative influence in the dressing room? What current cork hurler were you talking too?

    Browne is the exception to the rule and that is widely accepted, who was the last wingback over 34 to win an AI medal??

    I wasnt talkin to any of the current squad and I said it was an opinion based on all the evidence as a neutral lookin in, I have spoken to a former manger of a high profile Cork team who informed me as much, I have no reason to doubt him tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    Joe Deane - One all ireland minor (1995), two all ireland U21 (1997, 1998), three all ireland seniors (1999, 2004, 2005), numerous all stars (3+), generally accepted as one of the greats of his generation!

    Diarmuid O'Sullivan - Two all ireland U21 (97, 98), three all ireland seniors (99, 04, 05), numerous all stars (3 or 4?), again one of the best in his position for 10 years.

    I know they have limited coaching experience but what other characters of the modern game, a lot different to the game 20 or 30 years ago (faster, more skillful, etc.), in Cork would one nominate?

    Previous successfull playing carrers are a benefit alright but not essential, Liam Sheedy was only ever a bit player for Tipp, John Leahey was a genius, I know which one Id prefer managing Tipp though.

    In Cork I would say Ger Fitzpatrick and Ger Cunningham would be top of my list.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭Show Time


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    Make it sound like a presidential campaign for the White House :rolleyes:

    How about the campaign of Frank and his flock to get their own back? Or will you avoid that question?

    Only bonus of the Sean Og thing is that his little brother, who clearly wasnt up to it, went back to Oz. That's not home by the way!
    It was a campaign and make no mistake about it.
    The people of Cork should be on their hands and knees thanking God that we have great men like Frank looking after things here in Cork.
    And my mistake on his little brother i had not realised he went and followed the dollar down under.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 499 ✭✭sendit


    Blue Magic wrote: »
    How about the campaign of Frank and his flock to get their own back? Or will you avoid that question?

    You'd want something to back up a clame like that


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    All the anti DW and pro Sean og flock (;)) argue that the droping of golden balls had nothing to do with hurling and was payback for the strikes, yet DW was the one who persisted and had faith with hes beanpole brother, why would he do that if he was under pressure from the cb to get rid of Sean og, doesnt make any sense, heaven forbid he might actually have droped him because he isnt good enough anymore. Sean ogs entire game was built around hes amazing fitness levels and determination and of course at 34 years of age and 15 years of intercounty senior hurling those are both on the wane, its called natural wastage get over it.

    And added to this if Denis Walsh felt he was a negative influence in the dressingroom, as a neutral lookin in all the evidence points to this, then of course he was right to cut him from the panel.


    That beanpole utterly humiliated Padraig Maher TWICE. Imagine a manager having to move a forward off a defender after 15 minutes because he was destroying him. Of course Paul Curran was likewise destroyed when the Maher was taken out of his misery during the championship game.
    As for SOO'H, he's a much better wingback than William Egan. He's a much better wingback than Brain Murphy. Either one will end up playing at 7 in Thurlas. Thats the bottom line. As an added bonus we also get Fraggie Murphy/Paudie Sull/Mick Cussen at 14. And not a sniff of a goal scorer among the lot of them. Well done Denis, you are playing a blinder.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    That beanpole utterly humiliated Padraig Maher TWICE. Imagine a manager having to move a forward off a defender after 15 minutes because he was destroying him. Of course Paul Curran was likewise destroyed when the Maher was taken out of his misery during the championship game.
    As for SOO'H, he's a much better wingback than William Egan. He's a much better wingback than Brain Murphy. Either one will end up playing at 7 in Thurlas. Thats the bottom line. As an added bonus we also get Fraggie Murphy/Paudie Sull/Mick Cussen at 14. And not a sniff of a goal scorer among the lot of them. Well done Denis, you are playing a blinder.

    For a guy that gave two guys such a beating what did he actually score in that game?? John O brien (under instructions) stood off John Gardner that day and Gardner is the best man in hte country to deliver ball to a forward, he launched ball after ball into O'Hailpins hand and he managed to butcher almost every one of them, the one goal he did get he actually made very hard work of, he is the most unnatural hurler I have ever seen and not worthy of the Cork jersey tbh. Cussen isnt much better, has more hurling ability but seems cowardly or soft, Paudie Sull is miles better than the two combined but corner forward is he's best position imo and Fraggie is very average alright but again a far more natural hurler than O'Hailpin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    For a guy that gave two guys such a beating what did he actually score in that game?? John O brien (under instructions) stood off John Gardner that day and Gardner is the best man in hte country to deliver ball to a forward, he launched ball after ball into O'Hailpins hand and he managed to butcher almost every one of them, the one goal he did get he actually made very hard work of, he is the most unnatural hurler I have ever seen and not worthy of the Cork jersey tbh. Cussen isnt much better, has more hurling ability but seems cowardly or soft, Paudie Sull is miles better than the two combined but corner forward is he's best position imo and Fraggie is very average alright but again a far more natural hurler than O'Hailpin.

    Listen mate don't you dare rubbish A O'H and talk up the likes of Maher in particular and Curran to a lesser extent. By all means rubbish him as long as you are consistent and admit that Maher and Curran are rubbish hurlers.
    BTW just to be clear I don't think Maher or Curran or Aisake are rubbish hurlers but thats the logic you are following. Not to do so is you just being a Tipp cnut.
    BTW he also scored a perfectly good goal Tipp that the ref blew up to save the destroyed Maher's blushes. For a lad unworthy of the Cork jersey Aisake sure did give a great display up in Offaly against David Kenny a while back. Only Lehane and Hoggy gave better displays in last yrs senior club championship than the display in the first round v the Glen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Listen mate don't you dare rubbish A O'H and talk up the likes of Maher in particular and Curran to a lesser extent. By all means rubbish him as long as you are consistent and admit that Maher and Curran are rubbish hurlers. BTW just to be clear I don't think Maher or Curran or Aisake are rubbish hurlers but thats the logic you are following. Not to do so is you just being a Tipp cnut.
    BTW he also scored a perfectly good goal Tipp that the ref blew up to save the destroyed Maher's blushes. For a lad unworthy of the Cork jersey Aisake sure did give a great display up in Offaly against David Kenny a while back. Only Lehane and Hoggy gave better displays in last yrs senior club championship than the display in the first round v the Glen.

    lol I will debate hurling with you but when you start with this cr*p I'll leave you on your own, unlike yourself I can and will identify weaknesses in my own county, then again im an adult. And where did I talk up Maher and Curran btw??

    Padraic Maher and Paul Curran were awfull that day as was every single Tipp player with the exception of Brendan Maher and Brendan Cummins, what that has to do with Aisake is beyond me :confused: How did he fare at the bussiness end of the championship when it counted?? LOL refering to a first round club game :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,005 ✭✭✭willietherock


    lol I will debate hurling with you but when you start with this cr*p I'll leave you on your own, unlike yourself I can and will identify weaknesses in my own county, then again im an adult. And where did I talk up Maher and Curran btw??

    Padraic Maher and Paul Curran were awfull that day as was every single Tipp player with the exception of Brendan Maher and Brendan Cummins, what that has to do with Aisake is beyond me :confused: How did he fare at the bussiness end of the championship when it counted?? LOL refering to a first round club game :D


    Listen mate, you are the guy coming on here sticking the knife in good time into the O'Halpin brothers from behind the veil of anonymity.You are in no position to be suddenly getting up on your high horse getting all sanctimonious when it suits. Glasshouse and stones and all that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,706 ✭✭✭premierstone


    Listen mate, you are the guy coming on here sticking the knife in good time into the O'Halpin brothers from behind the veil of anonymity.You are in no position to be suddenly getting up on your high horse getting all sanctimonious when it suits. Glasshouse and stones and all that.

    No i did not come in sticking the knife into them, read the entire thread before you jump to any conclusions, and at no stage did I refer to either as a Cork c*nt, you were the one who dragged the thread down to that level.

    See post 24 for ref. I have acknowledged Sean Og was a wonderfull hurler, the emphasis been on was, I will not do the same about Aisake as it is simply not true, Sean og was not the first and will not be the last great player to be droped when it was felt he was passed hes prime and he is tarnishing hes own great legacy with this carry on, that is my opinion, fine if you dont share it but try and argue it logically without resorting to personal insults and slagging off Tipp players who have nothing to do with this.


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