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Tubsandtiles

Well lads and ladies, whats with Ireland and its lack of postcodes, people often not from Ireland laugh when I say I don't have a postcode to go with my address. Ordering something off the internet "please enter a valid" postcode....enters 1234ab . For a country where a man invented the submarine, designed the White House etc it seems incredibly stupid that alot of Ireland does not even have postcodes

Knasher

I've heard we actually do have them but the Post Office won't tell us what they are. I've also heard we should be getting them properly soon.

Celly Smunt

another valid reason why we should rejoin britain!











*waits for the stampede of paranoid republicans*

chin_grin

Cool story....................no I won't...........I musn't.........NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

RachaelVO

Well we still get our post and packages, and if it aint broke why fix it?

Duggy747

I can barely remember where the hell I live let alone a postcode.

liah

An Post has post codes for Ireland, but they refuse to give them to private companies.

Boycott them 'cuz they're the ones being insidiously petty and ruining it for everyone.

Tubsandtiles

RachaelVO wrote: »

Well we still get our post and packages, and if it aint broke why fix it?

So couriers can type your post code into a sat nav and find your house instead of ringing you

FatherLen

someone laughed at you because you dont have a postcode????








bullshit.

strokemyclover

"Postcodes are meaningless! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! Haaaaaa!"

-Newman

Tubsandtiles

They sure did, I find it annoying as well when you are booking a hotel by phone and they ask for a postcode...doesn't compute

JustAddWater

Postcodes? Pffft...

GPS is where it's at man

ISDW

RachaelVO wrote: »

Well we still get our post and packages, and if it aint broke why fix it?

Sometimes we do. I constantly get letters to someone with the same surname as mine, but a different first name. I have handed the letters back to the postman, yet still get another one.

When I first moved here I went to the local post office and told them my name, but it still took about 3 weeks before I got any post, because it wasn't the local post office I was supposed to go to:rolleyes: We not only have no postcodes here, but also no house numbers, just a very long road with about 60 houses on it. Unless the person delivering the post or package knows you, then they don't know where the hell to deliver to.

dpe

Postcodes were supposed to be arriving later this year, but its all gone ominously quiet. An Post are of course happy to keep the status quo for as long as possible. And people wonder why Ireland's e-Commerce revenues per capita are about 1/5 of the UK's...

Tubsandtiles

Agreed, houses are usually not even numbered in some cases

Liam Byrne

Tubsandtiles wrote: »

So couriers can type your post code into a sat nav and find your house instead of ringing you

Unfortunately so can the direct mail marketing parasites.

ball

It would be really confusing if they brought in postcodes similar to the long ones they use in UK.
People in rural areas will be given their own unique postcode.

Don't mind house numbers, the postcode would be on the front door.

dpe

ball wrote: »

It would be really confusing if they brought in postcodes similar to the long ones they use in UK.
People in rural areas will be given their own unique postcode.

Don't mind house numbers, the postcode would be on the front door.

They do have rural areas in the UK you know. A single postcode will just cover a larger area. Its usually about 30 addresses, irrespective of geography.

UglyBolloxFace

liah wrote: »

An Post has post codes for Ireland, but they refuse to give them to private companies.

Boycott them 'cuz they're the ones being insidiously petty and ruining it for everyone.

Really? What's this all about? Interesting. Any link to this?

tallaghtmick

i always thought dublin had postcodes as in 24 the place to be for criminal activity:cool:

mickdw

Tubsandtiles wrote: »

So couriers can type your post code into a sat nav and find your house instead of ringing you

Loc8 codes currently do this and get it right down to your home, not a group of houses.

slavetothegrind

but thats one of the things i love about ireland.

you could address a letter to my name and village, county and it will get to me!!!

jaysus not all progressive moves are better!

the commercially minded people should just use loc8, as said above, or google if they are cheap bastards and like fields

burrentech

mickdw wrote: »

Loc8 codes currently do this and get it right down to your home, not a group of houses.

Wondered when someone would mention these people. It might cover more than one house because each code covers up to Their codes also work with the major Sat-Nav devices, well at least Garmin and Tom-Tom

Go get yours at myloc8ion

Hopefully those sites that require a post code will catch up soon. Maybe the government and An Post will cotton on too :eek:

maglite

An post dont have post codes, They have a geodirectory, Its a list of all houses and sorted out to postal routes.

Should you wish you can rent access to this.
http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer top right and search.

stimpson

Tubsandtiles wrote: »

Agreed, houses are usually not even numbered in some cases

Yeah. Half the time they are odd numbered.

fermi-paradox

Tubsandtiles wrote: »

Agreed, houses are usually not even numbered in some cases

Mine is even numbered, it's yer one across the road that's odd.

galah

We have no street name, no house number, nothing. Just a house name, and the townland, sin é. In a way, it's nice ;-)

While i love the romantic idea of not having a postcode, it IS a pain in the neck if you are trying to get something delivered by courier though - usually, it takes about 4 phone calls (mobile reception out where we are is also patchy to say the least), a major effort of directing people across the barren bog cause they took the wrong turn AGAIN despite writing down delivery instructions in the comments when ordering, or the cow they were supposed to turn left at was facing the wrong way, or the red tractor moved to another field and Paddy Joe wasn't sure if we were now living in Seamus' old house or if it used to be Biddy's...

the last time I tried to get a parcel delivered, it took them 4 months - went back and forth between Germany, England, and some sorting center in Athlone, cause they couldn't find the village where I live (bullsh*t, but hey). Eventually got a phone call from a neighbour who picked up this deperate delivery dude driving around for hours - told him we live in Mr. McMurphy's* old house', and he knew exactly where that was ;-)

Courier could have easily called OR asked the local post office (they ALWAYS find us) or even the local petrol station, but I guess that's too difficult.

*not his real name

Badgermonkey

galah wrote: »

We have no street name, no house number, nothing. Just a house name, and the townland, sin é. In a way, it's nice ;-)

+1

It is nice, Posty and I know eachother by name, DPD know where to find me etc but postcodes are long overdue.

Capt'n Midnight

liah wrote: »

An Post has post codes for Ireland, but they refuse to give them to private companies.

Boycott them 'cuz they're the ones being insidiously petty and ruining it for everyone.

The courier companies had plenty of oppotunity of sharing theri databases too.

What is the commercial value of an post's data base and why should they give it up for nothing ?

Capt'n Midnight

burrentech wrote: »

Wondered when someone would mention these people. It might cover more than one house because each code covers up to Their codes also work with the major Sat-Nav devices, well at least Garmin and Tom-Tom

Go get yours at myloc8ion

Hopefully those sites that require a post code will catch up soon. Maybe the government and An Post will cotton on too :eek:

LOL propietry codes that actually longer than some addresses

1BowSt,D7


USA has 5 digit postcodes, by that measure we would only need 3

there is no need to overcomplicated stuff to enrich courier companies that heretoforth haven't bothered doing anything other than gripe that they weren't provided with post codes free gratis.



BIG PROBLEM with postcodes is what's knwn as the postcode lottery. Once we get postcodes expect insurance and other services to change price based on postcode and house values (here the price of some houses changed by a factor of 6 when they got incorporated into D4)

Wolfe Tone

Why do we need them?

holystungun9

liah wrote: »

An Post has post codes for Ireland, but they refuse to give them to private companies.

Boycott them 'cuz they're the ones being insidiously petty and ruining it for everyone.

Here, here. Let's do it for ourselves! I'm free on Tuesdays and I suppose I could take my golf clubs out of the caddy. Look like a proper postperson.

Daegerty

Tubsandtiles wrote: »

Well lads and ladies, whats with Ireland and its lack of postcodes, people often not from Ireland laugh when I say I don't have a postcode to go with my address. Ordering something off the internet "please enter a valid" postcode....enters 1234ab . For a country where a man invented the submarine, designed the White House etc it seems incredibly stupid that alot of Ireland does not even have postcodes

A better question would be what is with inept web designers insisting that everyone enters a postcode? There are tons of countries that don't have post codes.


Post codes are something from the bad old days that were necessary when mail-sorting technology wasn't where it is today. In no way does having a cryptic little code in every address make us more technologically advanced

GPS is where it's at now

TaraFoxglove

ISDW wrote: »

Sometimes we do. I constantly get letters to someone with the same surname as mine, but a different first name. I have handed the letters back to the postman, yet still get another one.

Having lived in Britain, I can tell you post codes don't stop stuff like this happening. We used to get post for a house on a street with an identical name across town, despite it having a different postcode specific to that street.

YFlyer

slavetothegrind wrote: »

but thats one of the things i love about ireland.

you could address a letter to my name and village, county and it will get to me!!!

Letter addressed to Pat the Bollocks, Co. Kerry and he received it.

TPD

ISDW wrote: »

Sometimes we do. I constantly get letters to someone with the same surname as mine, but a different first name. I have handed the letters back to the postman, yet still get another one.

When I first moved here I went to the local post office and told them my name, but it still took about 3 weeks before I got any post, because it wasn't the local post office I was supposed to go to:rolleyes: We not only have no postcodes here, but also no house numbers, just a very long road with about 60 houses on it. Unless the person delivering the post or package knows you, then they don't know where the hell to deliver to.

Just stick a big sign with '9000' written on it at the bottom of your garden and slowly inform your correspondents of your newly aquired house number.

Kevin Duffy

RachaelVO wrote: »

Well we still get our post and packages, and if it aint broke why fix it?

How would you know if you didn't get it all, eh? Hah!

dpe

Daegerty wrote: »

A better question would be what is with inept web designers insisting that everyone enters a postcode? There are tons of countries that don't have post codes.


Post codes are something from the bad old days that were necessary when mail-sorting technology wasn't where it is today. In no way does having a cryptic little code in every address make us more technologically advanced

GPS is where it's at now

Name a developed country apart from Ireland that doesn't have postcodes. Ireland is certainly the only country in the EU without them. You're not wrong that there are better ways to do it, but there still needs to be an accepted database of address recognition (and GPS won't help in a tower block). Ecom businesses don't just use post codes to send packages, they also use them to reduce fraud and for customer service.

Capt'n Midnight

slavetothegrind wrote: »

you could address a letter to my name and village, county and it will get to me!!![

I've had stuff delivered with just my name and Dublin Areacode

stimpson

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

I've had stuff delivered with just my name and Dublin Areacode

Was it:

President Mary McAleese,
Dublin 8.

Dyr

sean citizen
ballybogger
county culchie

Do we really want to lose cool addresses like that? I think its quaint

Cathaoirleach

We already have postcodes http://www.myloc8ion.com/maps/get_code8

But the government want to reinvent the wheel and come up with something of their own, just like the integrated ticketing system, which we're still waiting for since the 90s.

Cathaoirleach

I love how in the Gaeltacht, especially the islands, you can just have your address like this:

Seán Tharlach Ó Sé
Inis Meáin
Ireland

There's only one Seán Ó Sé on the island with a father called Tarlach, and the fear an phoist knows him!

Capt'n Midnight

she wouldn't have needed the D8 bit or President


Going back a while but I've heard that Willie Birmingham got a letter from the UK addressed to "Dublin"

garydubh

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

LOL propietry codes that actually longer than some addresses

1BowSt,D7


USA has 5 digit postcodes, by that measure we would only need 3

USA actually has an 9 Digit Zip code (5+4) plus state abbreviation plus property number all in a big look up database to locate an individual property - so perhaps up to 12 characters plus State Abbreviation!

In the UK a 7 or 8 chatacter postcode is used but also needs a property number so up to 11 chatacters and a big database to locate an individual property.

Loc8 Codes are 8 characters always and need no property number or database to identify an indidual property.

Furthermore Zip Codes and UK Postcodes change as property numbers densify - Loc8 Codes never have to change.

Speaking of 3 characters for Ireland - you can use the first 3 characters of the full Loc8 Code to identify a Zone have a look at the Loc8 Zone NP6

ParkSmart now using Loc8 Codes, Dublin City Council now using Loc8 Codes

Couriers are already using Loc8 Codes if they are in the address on the parcel - all they need is a Garmin SatNav or the iPhone App "point8" to find you and many have these already.

bnt

If it's a UK postcode they're after, put in W1A 1AA. The Queen will forward your porn movies to you, at no charge.

robinph

Wolfe Tone wrote: »

Why do we need them?

So that websites will let you order stuff, so that the postman can find you and deliver stuff to you, so that courier companies can find you and deliver stuff to you, so that emergency services can find you, so that other people can find you in their GPS without needing to go through the dodgy address search on their particular system.

Why does Ireland not need them?

--LOS--

we have postcodes here in Dublin, sure where else would need them

robinph

--LOS-- wrote: »

we have postcodes here in Dublin, sure where else would need them

Dublin does not have postcodes.

--LOS--

D1
D2
D3
...........

shall I go on

robinph

--LOS-- wrote: »

D1
D2
D3
...........

shall I go on

So a letter addressed like this will get to you?

--Los--
D1

Those are not postal codes really, well they are codes used by the post office, but they are of no real use. They mostly just tell them which sorting office they should go to. Not going to help in any way with actually finding out where you live.