people leaving sh!t in 24 hr study room.

dropinthocean

Whats the story with people leaving books etc on desks when they leave. Ridiculously inconsiderate. Not to mention the empty coffee cups etc. Place looks like a fcuking tip

Groinshot

dropinthocean wrote: »

Whats the story with people leaving books etc on desks when they leave. Ridiculously inconsiderate. Not to mention the empty coffee cups etc. Place looks like a fcuking tip

This has been done to death on the rant/bitch/moan thread. Move the stuff!!!

stesh

dropinthocean wrote: »

Whats the story with people leaving books etc on desks when they leave. Ridiculously inconsiderate. Not to mention the empty coffee cups etc. Place looks like a fcuking tip

After 15 minutes of a desk being unattended, you can clear it and use it.

Lawliet

stesh wrote: »

After 15 minutes of a desk being unattended, you can clear it and use it.

The problem is unless you have someone there keeping track of how long stuff has been lying unattended, you'd have to wait around for fifteen minutes before taking the place.
There ought to be a rule about writing down the time you've left the desk at, and preferable have someone around to enforce it around exam time.

rebecca 30

we have that system in N.U.I.G, if you leave your study desk , you must leave a note saying what time you left, and if your not back in time or if you dont leave a note then anyone can move your stuff and sit at your desk ,

Larianne

Lawliet wrote: »

The problem is unless you have someone there keeping track of how long stuff has been lying unattended, you'd have to wait around for fifteen minutes before taking the place.
There ought to be a rule about writing down the time you've left the desk at, and preferable have someone around to enforce it around exam time.

I frickin said that on one of the threads and Unshelved wrote that there's a place in the BLU where you can get a little form to write on and do this, or something....

The Black Oil

Yellow slips or something were available when I studying in TCD, though I never saw anyone use them. I did once log someone off a PC (not in the library) because they'd been gone for around 30 mins. He didn't complain. Would be a bit more wary of moving books, but I'm a lowly graduate user now. The library was fairly hectic at the start of last week, eased a bit later on. I saw some guy use his coat and books to take up one of the 2x2 seats in the Ussher. Felt like moving it when he fecked off so someone else could benefit, or if I saw someone looking for a seat, I would have tried to gesture that it was free. Really no need for that kind of carry on.

TrollHammaren

It might be an idea to email the librarians about it, OP. I stopped using the library a long time ago because the level of sheer ignorance in there is a disgrace.

amacachi

I've never been in the library so I won't be there for it but I hope that someone records and uploads the first freak-out/desk sweep that happens.

A_Border_Bandit

If I were to go into the 24 hour library tomorrow and clear a space after 15 minutes of waiting, what sort of reaction from the other users would I get? I would love to do it.

There are a lot of smug heads in that room, whenever someone goes in you can see them look up and watch the person as they search for a space with a look on their mug that just screams "I'm so great cause I came in first thing this morning. Acknowledge how studious and committed I am".

I feel like if I were to move a space-hoarders stuff the others would swarm on me like flies to sh!te 'cause I didn't come in at 8am like they did.

Boo! :mad:

amacachi

A_Border_Bandit wrote: »

If I were to go into the 24 hour library tomorrow and clear a space after 15 minutes of waiting, what sort of reaction from the other users would I get? I would love to do it.

There are a lot of smug heads in that room, whenever someone goes in you can see them look up and watch the person as they search for a space with a look on their mug that just screams "I'm so great cause I came in first thing this morning. Acknowledge how studious and committed I am".

I feel like if I were to move a space-hoarders stuff the others would swarm on me like flies to sh!te 'cause I didn't come in at 8am like they did.

Boo! :mad:

Go in and stare the **** out of an empty space for a while. The looks should be hilarious. I really want someone to clear a space on video. :P

A Neurotic

I cleared a space last year, after being assured by a mate that it had been vacant for ages. Dude came back pretty much just as I settled in. Wasn't pleased. I got embarrassed and had to give it back to him. Bad times.

Mountain_Surfer

To add insult to injury to students who walk in naively thinking that they will get a spot in the 24hr, not only do they have to contend with TCD students but I know for a fact that there are people in there (graduates) who are studying for their professional accounting exams (with the likes of KPMG etc). Funny that because you need a student card to get in there! Its an absolute joke.

On the other hand people in there are starting to take a stand against those who save desks. Heard of people studying late then coming in late the following morning who had left their stuff on their desk only to find that someone had (rightfully) taken it, much to their serious annoyance! Its understandable leaving a desk reserved for lunch and a small break here and there but over night is a joke.

Anyway it all sounds a little mental in there, hence why I study in my room. Much less hassle

Mountain_Surfer

Mountain_Surfer wrote: »

why I study in my room. Much less hassle

And you can make tea/coffee whenever you like!
I much prefer studying at home, because this way, I get to eat 24/7.

delta720

A Neurotic wrote: »

I cleared a space last year, after being assured by a mate that it had been vacant for ages. Dude came back pretty much just as I settled in. Wasn't pleased. I got embarrassed and had to give it back to him. Bad times.

Did you have a school bag and a kit bag by any chance??

I went for lunch (45 mins - an hour) and left my stuff there last year, some guy was just getting settled in when I came back, I just said 'sorry?' and fair play to him he moved. I felt bad cause he had to leave the room then cause there was no other seats, but in fairness when your in there all day you have to leave at some stage for food. I also used to go in dead early cause of those arseholes who leave their stuff there overnight! :mad:

TrollHammaren

The best thing is to stop being so polite towards people who are clearly being selfish prats.

If you come in and find someone has left their stuff there overnight then move it!

If someone takes up more than their fair share of space (my pet hate), ask them to move their stuff! They have to oblige! There's this one wanker who comes into the Lecky and Ussher libraries, big arrogant head on him, and he sits down in one seat, and covers each seat either side of him with books, bags etc. Back when I went to the library, I used to deliberately sit beside him, even when there were other spaces, just so he'd have to move his stuff

There are a number of things we can do to remain considerate. If we've been in all day and we go to lunch we should leave a note on the desk - otherwise no one can tell whether you've just popped out for a wee or are just reserving a place for yourself. We can also make sure we don't use more than one study space, and for fúck's sake lower the volume on MP3 players. Finally, if you see your fellow students having a loud whisper conversation, lynch them on site!

The Black Oil

Does he have a beard and glasses?

TrollHammaren

The Black Oil wrote: »

Does he have a beard and glasses?

No, hair with blonde highlights and BESS student clothes. He could very well have a beard and glasses now. I also wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair few of them floating around.

Larianne

delta720 wrote: »

Did you have a school bag and a kit bag by any chance??

I went for lunch (45 mins - an hour) and left my stuff there last year, some guy was just getting settled in when I came back, I just said 'sorry?' and fair play to him he moved. I felt bad cause he had to leave the room then cause there was no other seats, but in fairness when your in there all day you have to leave at some stage for food. I also used to go in dead early cause of those arseholes who leave their stuff there overnight! :mad:

Lunch can be done in half an hour. I think thats the max anyone should be gone for.

stesh

delta720 wrote: »

Did you have a school bag and a kit bag by any chance??

I went for lunch (45 mins - an hour) and left my stuff there last year, some guy was just getting settled in when I came back, I just said 'sorry?' and fair play to him he moved. I felt bad cause he had to leave the room then cause there was no other seats, but in fairness when your in there all day you have to leave at some stage for food. I also used to go in dead early cause of those arseholes who leave their stuff there overnight! :mad:

Leaving for lunch isn't really an excuse - the fact is that there fewer carrels than there are people who need to study, and it's not fair for one person to occupy a single carrel for the entire day. It's really frustrating to come into a reading room in which all the empty desks are occupied by personal belongings.

It's also against library regulations:

*. Readers are not permitted to reserve seats by leaving their belongings or books on seats and desks. The Library staff may move any property left at unoccupied desks or seats for more than 15 minutes except for officially reserved seats and carrels.

Raedwald

Top floor of the BLU in the history section behind the shelves there are seats. If you leave a stack of books with a handwritten letter on the desk with the date on them they will not be restakced on you and most people wont take your seat either.

24 hr needs a library attendant at this time year. Certain occupants think the room is there solely for their own use and treat it as such with litter lying around all around the room and that because they use the same desk it is theirs for the entire period.

jmn89

Couple of weeks ago in the 24 hour space the girl next to me (who had marketing and law books on her desk) spent most of the day on youtube, megavideo (must have had a paid account) and popping out for cigarette breaks every twenty minutes. Understandable that there are days when you just can't seem to concentrate and succumb to internet procrastination, but she was at it all day on a Saturday and Sunday and on both days there were people sitting on the ground for hours waiting, praying for a space to open up.

Thankfully I finished both my exams and college almost 3 weeks ago . Hang in there guys!

PurpleFistMixer

Larianne wrote: »

Lunch can be done in half an hour. I think thats the max anyone should be gone for.

Ah now, an hour for lunch is reasonable. Just don't expect your place to still be there when you get back.

Also, this entire thread makes me very glad that I don't study in a "public" place in college.

just-joe

Does anyone here tell randomers to shut up when they're talking too much?

Had to do it a couple of time in the hamilton last year, newbie science kids it seemed, they were a bit shocked but everyone else was happy.:D

delta720

stesh wrote: »

Leaving for lunch isn't really an excuse - the fact is that there fewer carrels than there are people who need to study, and it's not fair for one person to occupy a single carrel for the entire day. It's really frustrating to come into a reading room in which all the empty desks are occupied by personal belongings.

It's also against library regulations:

Id rather leave for lunch than annoy the people around me while I'm eating. If your in there 9am-10pm like I was in the weeks before my dissertation was due then I think its reasonable to leave for lunch or a break every few hours. Also I had to be up at 7am to be in for 9 everyday and I wouldn't think it fair that someone who strolls in at 12 could take my seat just cause I'm off grabbing a roll in spar.

Lawliet

delta720 wrote: »

Id rather leave for lunch than annoy the people around me while I'm eating. If your in there 9am-10pm like I was in the weeks before my dissertation was due then I think its reasonable to leave for lunch or a break every few hours. Also I had to be up at 7am to be in for 9 everyday and I wouldn't think it fair that someone who strolls in at 12 could take my seat just cause I'm off grabbing a roll in spar.

You really don't have more right to that desk just because you got there early. If the library rules say you can only save a place for X amount of time, and you leave the place vacant for longer than that then it is perfectly fair that someone can come in at twelve and take it.

bythewoods

Mountain_Surfer wrote: »

To add insult to injury to students who walk in naively thinking that they will get a spot in the 24hr, not only do they have to contend with TCD students but I know for a fact that there are people in there (graduates) who are studying for their professional accounting exams (with the likes of KPMG etc). Funny that because you need a student card to get in there! Its an absolute joke.

No you don't... The door's been wedged open with a plastic bottle for the last few days at least.

Saw someone in there signing into their DIT email account recently. Rage.

just-joe

If people from DIT were in there, I'd be tempted to call the librarians and ask them to sort it out. Its a bit ridiculous. Maybe that eastern european guy is still on the prowl, I'm sure he wouldn't mind helping out!

d93c2inhxfok4y

The accepted way seems to be first come served, with a few five minute breaks and lunch how long you can/should leave for. Tbh I think that's totally reasonable.

Especially an hour for lunch. Lunchtime is an hour. During the 9am-10pm library days, it's all there is to look forward to!

Hah, I love how everyone was really mad at the start of this thread when they were thinking about how hard it is for them to get a seat, and now they're thinking about how they themselves act in the study space it's all "ah well, y'know, an hour for lunch is to be expected, it would be unfair to expect you to go without food, toilet breaks, rolls..."

I don't use the college study space, so here's an objective view. When you go for lunch, take your stuff with you. If everyone did that, there'd be a lot more study done, the seats would always have someone who's actually studying at them, and everyone would be a lot happier.

TrollHammaren

just-joe wrote: »

Does anyone here tell randomers to shut up when they're talking too much?

Had to do it a couple of time in the hamilton last year, newbie science kids it seemed, they were a bit shocked but everyone else was happy.:D

I did when I was in the libro. I also still do it in the cinema. I have asked people to lower the volume on their mp3 players, too.