motorbike licence at 16

reddie_freddie

Hi there,
it will be my 16th birthday in november. i know you can ride a bike legally on a public road at 16... but can anyone tell me the procedures involved? the best place for insurance at 16? best bike? and also my friend told me that to drive a motorbike at 16 you need to carry a passenger with a full bike licence... is this true?
thank you for any info,
fred

brian plank

reddie_freddie wrote: »

Hi there,
d also my friend told me that to drive a motorbike at 16 you need to carry a passenger with a full bike licence... is this true?
fred

no.

as for the rest you'll need to do the basic training, cry at how much it cost. buy a moped, cry at much it costs to insure followed by crying at how slow and pointless it was to waste so much money. walking is very under rated these days.

sleepysniper

reddie_freddie wrote: »

and also my friend told me that to drive a motorbike at 16 you need to carry a passenger with a full bike licence... is this true?

fred

Firstly thats complete bull****! You need a full cat. A licence to carry anyone pillion!

@ 16 you will be restricted to a A1 licence AFAIK, which means your bike can be no more than 125cc's.

sleepysniper

BTW Insurance will be ridiculous at your age no matter what you try to insure!

Flyin Irishman

reddie_freddie wrote: »

Hi there,
it will be my 16th birthday in november. i know you can ride a bike legally on a public road at 16... but can anyone tell me the procedures involved?
Step One: pass the Theory test (cat M/A1/A)

Step Two: get a provisional license. At 16 you will only be entitled to M, or A1. This will limit you to 125cc (or 11kW)

Step Three: You will have to complete the IBT. This a mandatory course of lessons that takes about 16 hours. This can be costly depending on whether youre doing it alone/with a friend. You must complete the IBT before you are allowed to ride unaccompanied on the roads.

Step Four: Choose a bike + get insurance. Your choices are limited here due to the 125cc limit. As was said already, at your age insurance will be very high regardless of what you choose.

the best place for insurance at 16?
There are only four companies that currently insure bikers in Ireland. They are Quinn-Direct, Adelaide, Aon and Carole Nash. As far as I know Adelaide and Carole Nash will not insure you under 24. Quinn is probably your best bet.

best bike?
Depends on your tastes. Most people will get bored of a 125cc before too long, so probably best to get something cheap like a scooter and view it as a chance to gain experience until you can upgrade.

and also my friend told me that to drive a motorbike at 16 you need to carry a passenger with a full bike licence... is this true?
Absolutely not. In fact it's the opposite. You are not permitted to carry a passenger until you get a full license.
thank you for any info,
fred

Most were answered already but hopefully theres some info there that helps. Dont be afraid to post up any other questions or thoughts

reddie_freddie

thanks for the replys! would the insurance be below ?1000? you may LOL at this but i was considering buying a honda 50! but a friend of mine recommended a honda cbr 125cc... any thoughts?
Fred

Del2005

reddie_freddie wrote: »

thanks for the replys! would the insurance be below ?1000? you may LOL at this but i was considering buying a honda 50! but a friend of mine recommended a honda cbr 125cc... any thoughts?
Fred

Stick your details into Quinn they're the only ones who'll insure you anyway. You can use fake names and nearby addresses if you want.

Flyin Irishman

reddie_freddie wrote: »

thanks for the replys! would the insurance be below ?1000? you may LOL at this but i was considering buying a honda 50! but a friend of mine recommended a honda cbr 125cc... any thoughts?
Fred

Hard to know, what I did was go to Quinn's Website and just make up details to get an idea of a quote.

If you can find a good Honda 50, they are probably one of the most bulletproof machines ever made. No matter how much you punish it, it will keep asking for more! Dont know much about the cbr 125, but they would be more expensive to insure because they are (along with the nsr) the go-to bike for 16 year old's that want to ride like a maniac.

Where in the country are you based? If you take a trip to a bike shop you might get to look at some bikes that might interest you.

brian plank

quinn is your only hope. adelaide wont insure 125's for some reason.

reddie_freddie

i entered some fake details into quinns website... at the end of all that they said they couldn't provide me with a quote...
yes honda 50 is a good comfortable bike i drove one before...
i am based in Donegal

Wossack

adelaide need you to be >25, but this may have changed recently..

no point using the online calcs imo, best to ring

Flyin Irishman

reddie_freddie wrote: »

i entered some fake details into quinns website... at the end of all that they said they couldn't provide me with a quote...
yes honda 50 is a good comfortable bike i drove one before...
i am based in Donegal

Tried it myself just making stuff up. I got a quote of €707 on a 2005 Honda 50 valued at €1000 (Third Party Only) But couldnt get a quote on a CBR 125 or a CBF125. You'll have to give them a ring.

reddie_freddie

aah rite... i might even settle for a honda 50... but i also hear that there is good power in 2-stroke bikes... what do you guys think? might be a bit of a balls filling it up with 2-stroke all the time though

seanybiker

Ah wee scooter might be grand for you for a year or two. Great ways to get your ncb up

reddie_freddie

dunno about the wee scooter... im ruling it out for the moment;)

brian plank

reddie_freddie wrote: »

dunno about the wee scooter... im ruling it out for the moment;)

any 2 stroke other than a scooter is going to cost a fortune to insure thats if they quote you at all. although you could try getting quotes on an rs50. something like that might not be too bad to insure.

EDIT: €707 on an rs50 with your details. not too bad.

reddie_freddie

Flyin Irishman wrote: »

Step Three: You will have to complete the IBT. This a mandatory course of lessons that takes about 16 hours. This can be costly depending on whether youre doing it alone/with a friend. You must complete the IBT before you are allowed to ride unaccompanied on the roads.

is the ibt just a training course?
i thought i had to take lessons with a driving instructor on the road?

BulliteShot

I haven't done the IBT, but I've found it's usually done in groups of between 6 and 12 people. It's cheaper that way.

Flyin Irishman

reddie_freddie wrote: »

is the ibt just a training course?
i thought i had to take lessons with a driving instructor on the road?

Yeah it's basically a course of lessons, usually you'll start somewhere private, or in a car park or something. And then progress on to the roads. But until you've completed the IBT you are not allowed on the roads without a supervising instructor

Del2005

reddie_freddie wrote: »

is the ibt just a training course?
i thought i had to take lessons with a driving instructor on the road?

IBT is for bikes and is 16 hours over 2 days.

EBT is for cars and requires 12 hours on the roads signed off by an ADI with homework logged.

reddie_freddie

is it difficult?

inchiuvatu

At 16 your options on bike are limit as you know

My mate started out on a honda 50 with a box on the back and a basket up front.. now 15+ years later he's riding around on a fireblade, he always talks about loving the honda 50, it being his favourite bike for years even after he replaced it.. i reckon it would be a cool start and sure i was driving home from donegal and there was a group of 6 lads racing honda 50s there a cool bike and in my opinion have much more class then standard scooters and low CC sports bikes.

i was 26 on provisional and my insurance third party fire and theft on a cbr125 was about €700.

try budget for some good gear, splash out on a lid at least, im sure at 16 you have a bit of growth left so fancy leathers are a bit of a waste but it's cheaper to replace gear than skin so cover it up

Looking forward to hearing what bike you get once your IBT is sorted.

reddie_freddie

yes the honda 50s are a great bike maybe a bit underrated...
i can take my theory test now at 15
but can i take my ibt at 15? or do i have to wait until im 16?

oleras

reddie_freddie wrote: »

yes the honda 50s are a great bike maybe a bit underrated...
i can take my theory test now at 15
but can i take my ibt at 15? or do i have to wait until im 16?

You will need a vilid learners permit to do the IBT.

Go back a few pages and have a read, i have a thread about my IBT here.

reddie_freddie

ok thanks

cynder

Im thinking of getting my daughter a moped/scooter at 16 from these guys

http://www.scooter.co.uk/50cc-scooters-for-sale.html

she is diabetic, any ideas how much more insurance would be for a diabetic or if there are any restrictions?

Im going now to look through the threads about IBT and Theroy tests.

BulliteShot

IBT can no longer be done in groups apparently.

It's going to cost me €1100+

WTF!

Alkers

BulliteShot wrote: »

IBT can no longer be done in groups apparently.

It's going to cost me 1100+

WTF!

Walk a mile, that is four times the going rate!

seanybiker

grindelwald wrote: »

Im thinking of getting my daughter a moped/scooter at 16 from these guys

http://www.scooter.co.uk/50cc-scooters-for-sale.html

she is diabetic, any ideas how much more insurance would be for a diabetic or if there are any restrictions?

Im going now to look through the threads about IBT and Theroy tests.

Your local shop would probably be better to buy a scoot from.
Don't know about the insurance for a diabetic. I know my uncle is diabetic and his insurance is bigger all but that's in a car. Can't imagine it being to much more. Its gonna be costly for her anyways because her age.

reddie_freddie

grindelwald wrote: »

Im thinking of getting my daughter a moped/scooter at 16 from these guys

http://www.scooter.co.uk/50cc-scooters-for-sale.html

As i said in the first page of this thread the honda 50's are a good bike... i might just get one myself!

kevinhalvey

im also 16 in may could somebody give me an idea of the price of the ibt please i seen 1100 mentioned above :O

Alkers

kevinhalvey wrote: »

im also 16 in may could somebody give me an idea of the price of the ibt please i seen 1100 mentioned above :O

It can be got for €290 if you share with one other person. This includes bike and gear rental.

kevinhalvey

thanks a millionid defo do it with someone if its cheaper also as a first bike i was looking at a honda cbr 125 good first bike or honda 50 ??

Alkers

If you are 16 I would say you are stuck on a 50cc because insurance will be dear. That said try to get a geared 20cc rather than a moped.

AgileMyth

Simona1986 wrote: »

If you are 16 I would say you are stuck on a 50cc because insurance will be dear. That said try to get a geared 20cc rather than a moped.

You might get cover on a 125 at 16. Just not a sports model.

Glad to here theres still a few young people interested in getting into biking. Its totally worth jumping through all the hoops for.

kevinhalvey

Glad to here theres still a few young people interested in getting into biking. Its totally worth jumping through all the hoops for.[/QUOTE]

not only that there a sight cheaper then running a car tax is uncompairable ! petrol again more economical even insurance although stll expensive for me its cheaper then me in an old 1.0l car

smellslikeshoes

Nsr 80 would be your best bet, you will need a large quantity of lube to even think about trying to insure a 125 at 16. Even if you did get a reasonable quote on a 125 it would be a 4 stroke because they wouldn't touch you with a 2 stroke, so the NSR80 would be just as quick anyway.

reddie_freddie

is the ibt more expensive at 16? or is it the same price for all ages?

kevinhalvey

pretty sure its the same price for all

reddie_freddie

but one guy says it costs 1100 euro for one person and another guy says it costs 290 each if two people are doing it together... wtf?

kevinhalvey

i think the 1100 was a bit ott look on www.rsa.ie and look at the instructores most of them have prices on there websites its around the 200-300 mark if you share

reddie_freddie

Thanks Kevin... the prices are not too bad! I almost cried when i seen ?1100 being mentioned

kevinhalvey

i know im also near 16 will be getting a bike soon and thought it wouldnt be worth it if it was 1100

reddie_freddie

Cool so your on the same boat as me! lol... what bike are you thinking on getting?

kevinhalvey

i really wanted a honda cbr 125 seen a lovely one right money v.clean but insurance quote on it is as much as the bike

i got a fair enought quote on a 70cc aprilla yesterday so thats on my short list

reddie_freddie

aye... i was looking for a 125 aswell, but the insurance is shocking... im currently thinking on a nsr 80, a tzr 80, or a suzuki rg 80... seems to be good power in those 80cc bikes

reddie_freddie

does anyone know if an A1 licence allows you to ride through northern ireland?

AgileMyth

reddie_freddie wrote: »

does anyone know if an A1 licence allows you to ride through northern ireland?

Long as its a full licence and not a learners permit you can ride where you like. Learner Permit is not valid outside the republic.

reddie_freddie

ok thanks

reddie_freddie

where do you guys get the bike reg from when getting a quote?

kevinhalvey

with quinn anyways make one up youll stilll get one but if you do jus look at the pics of one and punch it in thats how i do it either way