If ever proof was needed that the SPL is a corrupt Masonic old boys network

bobbysands81

then look no further than the decision to award Rangers FC the 'Family Club of the Year.'

Not too much of a surprise given that the SPL ignored their sectarian signing policy for years. Nor is it a surprise that they've been investigated FIVE times in the last few years for racist and sectarian singing whilst the SPL and SFA have completely ignored their actions.

What family would want to bring their kids to the hatefest that is Ibrox which will teach their kids such lyrics as "Up to our knees in Fenian blood, surrender or you'll die" or "**** the Pope and the Vatican" or subject them to the racist overtones in telling an entire ethnic minority to go home?

But I suppose that's what happens when you're part of 'The Establishment' as The Rangers are.

MUSEIST

Are you a celtic fan by any chance ???

CSF

bobbysands81 wrote: »

then look no further than the decision to award Rangers FC the 'Family Club of the Year.'

Not too much of a surprise given that the SPL ignored their sectarian signing policy for years. Nor is it a surprise that they've been investigated FIVE times in the last few years for racist and sectarian singing whilst the SPL and SFA have completely ignored their actions.

What family would want to bring their kids to the hatefest that is Ibrox which will teach their kids such lyrics as "Up to our knees in Fenian blood, surrender or you'll die" or "**** the Pope and the Vatican" or subject them to the racist overtones in telling an entire ethnic minority to go home?

But I suppose that's what happens when you're part of 'The Establishment' as The Rangers are.

Do Celtic fans actually watch football? You never hear them talk about it.

Oat23

Oh, a lets hate Rangers thread.

How original. :rolleyes:

LimeTime

But it's ''Family Club Of The Year'' not ''Family Club Of The Past 5 Years.''



And OP who do you think should have won it?

bobbysands81

MUSEIST wrote: »

Are you a celtic fan by any chance ???

You might try and claim that this would explain the motivation for this post but it doesn't invalidate the points in it.

OhNoYouDidn't

LimeTime wrote: »

But it's ''Family Club Of The Year'' not ''Family Club Of The Past 5 Years.''



And OP who do you think should have won it?

In the year they got hammered by UEFA for racist singing and their fans are implicated in trying to kill Neil Lennon with a bomb, it does seem a little bit odd. In fact, it seems like the SFA are going out of their way to help their damaged brand.

As for winners, Hamilton.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

In the year they got hammered by UEFA for racist singing and their fans are implicated in trying to kill Neil Lennon with a bomb, it does seem a little bit odd. In fact, it seems like the SFA are going out of their way to help their damaged brand.

As for winners, Hamilton.

Crap where has it been officially said that these terrible acts have been carried out by Rangers fans and if they are caught and claim to be supporters of the club then it will be stated "Not in our name" as these people are scum and in no way Gers fans

OhNoYouDidn't

Broxi_Bear_Eire wrote: »

Crap where has it been officially said that these terrible acts have been carried out by Rangers fans and if they are caught and claim to be supporters of the club then it will be stated "Not in our name" as these people are scum and in no way Gers fans

What about the 'minority' of singers all your supporters clubs today issued a condemnation of?

Be honest, do The Rangers deserve this accolade after what you will admit has been an appalling year off the field for them?

tommyhaas

MUSEIST wrote: »

Are you a celtic fan by any chance ???

CSF wrote: »

Do Celtic fans actually watch football? You never hear them talk about it.

You don't have to be a Celtic fan to see it's absolutely shocking how that club and their fans have carried on

I'm not a Celtic fan, but it annoys me the way people stereotype all Celtic fans as the chavs you see around town, wearing Celtic tops with no interest in football

Oat23

and they're off!

bobbysands81

Oatesy23 wrote: »

and they're off!

Please stop trolling mate - take part in the conversation but no need to troll.

Broxi_Bear_Eire

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

What about the 'minority' of singers all your supporters clubs today issued a condemnation of?

Be honest, do The Rangers deserve this accolade after what you will admit has been an appalling year off the field for them?

To be honest no but to start all this crap again when those RSC's came out and made that statement smacks of sour grapes

Oat23

It's not trolling. It's simply the truth, someone mentioned bombs and racist singing which started the hate.

I don't see why this unconstructive 'conversation' couldn't be had in the Rangers Superthread with the other unconstructive conversations about what a man's legal name is etc...

I'll just leave now before I pick up a yellow card for something pointless.

CSF

tommyhaas wrote: »

You don't have to be a Celtic fan to see it's absolutely shocking how that club and their fans have carried on

You have to be a Celtic fan to spend half your life whinging about it.

jesus_thats_gre

Only a supporter of a club in the SPL would get upset about not being awarded the accolade of "Family Club of the Year".. **** sake like!

CSF

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Only a supporter of Celtic in the SPL would get upset about not being awarded the accolade of "Family Club of the Year".. **** sake like!

Corrected.

OhNoYouDidn't

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Only a supporter of a club in the SPL would get upset about not being awarded the accolade of "Family Club of the Year".. **** sake like!

I don't think the OP gives a rashers about winning it.

He is questioning the Rangers fans winning an award after their recent behaviour

KeithAFC

It was the Establishment. Rumour has it the Establishment had a meeting with the Orange Order and decided to give it to Rangers. Apparently they have bribed a ref for the next SPL game at Ibrox.

Exciting times ahead.

Fuhrer

CSF wrote: »

Corrected.

There is only two clubs in scotland...

Jelle1880

I didn't even know that existed.

But it just goes to show how deep the Establishment runs, they probably even made that award up themselves.

KeithAFC

Jelle1880 wrote: »

I didn't even know that existed.

But it just goes to show how deep the Establishment runs.

I'll PM you about that secret meeting next week Jella. We need to make sure he knows his role in the next game.

tommyhaas

CSF wrote: »

You have to be a Celtic fan to spend half your life whinging about it.

I'm not a Celtic fan, nor would I spend half my life moaning about it. I think though that the point is the irony, given the UEFA sanctions imposed last week

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Only a supporter of a club in the SPL would get upset about not being awarded the accolade of "Family Club of the Year".. **** sake like!

I don't think its so much jealousy as it is disbelief. It would be akin to Nigel De Jong receiving a fair play award

CSF

tommyhaas wrote: »

I'm not a Celtic fan, nor would I spend half my life moaning about it.

Yeah but you didn't make the thread, nor do you waffle non-stop about it, so I'm not actually talking about you at all.

Het-Field

It is incredible.

The current extended degeneration of relations between the Old Firm clubs has run parallel to the degeneration in the quality and relevance of Scottish Football.

It was never great but when Scottish football was at a reasonably high ebb in the noughties this sort of degeneration in relations was not nearly as publicised.

OhNoYouDidn't

Het-Field wrote: »

It is incredible.

The current extended degeneration of relations between the Old Firm clubs has run parallel to the degeneration in the quality and relevance of Scottish Football.

It was never great but when Scottish football was at a reasonably high ebb in the noughties this sort of degeneration in relations was not nearly as publicised.

Rubbish. There was a murder a derby in the noughties.

KeithAFC

A candle vigil this friday outside celtic park might get this decision over turned?

Het-Field

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Rubbish. There was a murder a derby in the noughties.

Links ?

While I dont doubt that mindless thugs on both sides have ended the lives of fans, I cannot imagine that 30 murders occurred.

KeithAFC

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Rubbish. There was a murder a derby in the noughties.

There was a few murders in the 90s.

finty

KeithAFC wrote: »

There was a few murders in the 90s.

what was the final score?

KeithAFC

finty wrote: »

what was the final score?

9-0.

flas

KeithAFC wrote: »

9-0.

the noughties only had 9 years apparently...:rolleyes:

gosplan

bobbysands81 wrote: »

then look no further than the decision to award Rangers FC the 'Family Club of the Year.'

Not too much of a surprise given that the SPL ignored their sectarian signing policy for years. Nor is it a surprise that they've been investigated FIVE times in the last few years for racist and sectarian singing whilst the SPL and SFA have completely ignored their actions.

What family would want to bring their kids to the hatefest that is Ibrox which will teach their kids such lyrics as "Up to our knees in Fenian blood, surrender or you'll die" or "**** the Pope and the Vatican" or subject them to the racist overtones in telling an entire ethnic minority to go home?

But I suppose that's what happens when you're part of 'The Establishment' as The Rangers are.

Taken from the football league's similar award

One of the most important challenges facing Football League clubs is getting the next generation of fans into their grounds.The League's 'Fans of the Future, supported by E.ON' initiative has sought to encourage more young fans and families into grounds by offering free or heavily discounted tickets to kids.

Additionally, each season, teams of mystery shoppers visit all League clubs to judge whether they are offering an outstanding family experience.With those that are being recognised with The Football League's Family Excellence Award.

These clubs are then considered for the prestigious Family Club of the Year award.

So no-one gives a sh1t about chants and nailbombs from a crazy minority. It's about which clubs offers the most to families of supporters.

A quick Google finds things like this

FAMILY SECTION PARTY AT RANGERS v HEARTS
- DJ, games and signed prizes from 10.45am until kick-off
- Meet Broxi from 10.45am-11.45am

So if you're a Rangers suporter, you're actively encouraged to include your whole family into the experience. It doesn't matter at all if you approve or want to bring your family there, it's for Rangers supporters.

So it's quite possible that Rangers deserve this award but you haven't bothered to consider that.

delos

Is there a link anywhere that details when the award was made and what criteria were used in making the decision?

ArmaniJeanss

delos wrote: »

Is there a link anywhere that details when the award was made and what criteria were used in making the decision?

Yeah, a link would be good.
I don't see anything on the Rangers website about it (you'd think they'd be proud and have it near the front) and google doesn't seem to know anything about this award either.

ColeTrain

tommyhaas wrote: »

You don't have to be a Celtic fan to see it's absolutely shocking how that club and their fans have carried on

I'm not a Celtic fan, but it annoys me the way people stereotype all Celtic fans as the chavs you see around town, wearing Celtic tops with no interest in football

Spot on.

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Only a supporter of a club in the SPL would get upset about not being awarded the accolade of "Family Club of the Year".. **** sake like!

Didn't even know it existed like posters above and couldn't care if Celtic won it or not.

I am however shocked and amused by who they've awarded it to. Family club of the year? FFS you couldn't make this up.

Fu** the SFA....

ArmaniJeanss

delos wrote: »

Is there a link anywhere that details when the award was made and what criteria were used in making the decision?

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

Yeah, a link would be good.
I don't see anything on the Rangers website about it (you'd think they'd be proud and have it near the front) and google doesn't seem to know anything about this award either.

This partly answers the above.
http://www.scotprem.com/content/default.asp?page=s2&newsid=9304&back=home
Its a link to how StMirren won it last year (still can't find this years winners though) - seems they send in sets of families undercover into each ground with the purpose of marking each club on various family criteria.

So not exactly a gang of corrupt old Masonics awarding it to Rangers from their leather chairs in the Lodge then.

delos

ColeTrain wrote: »

Spot on.

FFS you couldn't make this up.

Fu** the SFA....

What have the SFA to do with this? If you are going to have a dig based on no evidence at least have a dig at the right organisation.

bobbysands81

gosplan wrote: »

So no-one gives a sh1t about chants and nailbombs from a crazy minority. It's about which clubs offers the most to families of supporters.

Crazy minority it is not when it comes to racist and sectarian singing, it is a clear majority. I'd question someone who'd subject their young kids to such hatred.

delos

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Crazy minority it is not when it comes to racist and sectarian singing, it is a clear majority. I'd question someone who'd subject their young kids to such hatred.

Any sign of your source for this thread?

Paully D

Both clubs have idiotic fans and decent fans too - end of story.

OhNoYouDidn't

Paully D wrote: »

Both clubs have idiotic fans and decent fans too - end of story.

Spare me the two sides of the same coin nonsense.

KeithAFC

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Crazy minority it is not when it comes to racist and sectarian singing, it is a clear majority. I'd question someone who'd subject their young kids to such hatred.

Wow, millions of bigots around the world. Who would of knew.

OhNoYouDidn't

KeithAFC wrote: »

Wow, millions of bigots around the world. Who would of knew.

Honest question Keith, do The Rangers deserve this award in light of whats going on in the background?

KeithAFC

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Honest question Keith, do The Rangers deserve this award in light of whats going on in the background?

Of course. We have great fans.

Jelle1880

Why not ?
If families feel that they can go to Ibrox and are welcome there.

KeithAFC

Just seems like celtic fans are jealous to be honest. The whole celtic mentality of 'oh, everyone must love us, look a bigot Rangers fan.. oh look. wahhhh wahhh wahhhh wahhh, oh look, a bigot rangers fans, oh look the billy boys, wahhh wahhh'. Not everything revolves around the celts.

Paully D

OhNoYouDidn't wrote: »

Spare me the two sides of the same coin nonsense.

The truth hurts.

OhNoYouDidn't

Paully D wrote: »

The truth hurts.

So you can find me links to UEFA fining Celtic for racist singing, nailbombs to Rangers players or full scale riots at Celtic European games?

OhNoYouDidn't

KeithAFC wrote: »

Of course. We have great fans.

So you disagree with the Rangers Supporters Clubs statement of today condemning Rangers fans?

But I asked about whether Ibrox is the most family friendly matchday experience in Scotland

tommyhaas

gosplan wrote: »

So if you're a Rangers suporter, you're actively encouraged to include your whole family into the experience. It doesn't matter at all if you approve or want to bring your family there, it's for Rangers supporters.

So it's quite possible that Rangers deserve this award but you haven't bothered to consider that.

If they do offer more encouragement to families, then according to the criteria they deserve it

The attendance of families at the ground though should also serve to re-enforce the effort to eliminate sectarian chanting from football, so as not to bring up another generation in a culture where sectarianism is considered acceptable

Jelle1880 wrote: »

Why not ?
If families feel that they can go to Ibrox and are welcome there.

Agree with you

KeithAFC wrote: »

Just seems like celtic fans are jealous to be honest. The whole celtic mentality of 'oh, everyone must love us, look a bigot Rangers fan.. oh look. wahhhh wahhh wahhhh wahhh, oh look, a bigot rangers fans, oh look the billy boys, wahhh wahhh'. Not everything revolves around the celts.

I'm not a Celtic fan, but I'm still offended by the billy boys