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Consultation for wisdom teeth removal

  • 03-05-2011 2:44pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭


    Hi,
    I went to my local dentist to have a look at my wisdom teeth because they were causing me a lot of pain. My local dentist had a look at them, gave my teeth a clean and gave me a prescription for antibiotics (flagyl) because I had an infection on my gum where the wisdom tooth was cutting into it. My local dentist also booked me an appointment for the surgery in the Bon Secours Hospital in Tralee.

    The Bon Secours contacted me and said they will need to take an x-ray which will cost €140 as well as the consultation price of €55. Then they will schedule the surgery. Now I just rang VHI healthcare and they have told me that I don't have a dental care plan. Does this mean that I will have to pay for the entire thing? Or can I claim anything back? I have a VHI healthcare membership and I thought that would cover me.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 364 ✭✭shuyin1


    Non routine dental= 20% can be claimed back. Fill in med1 form.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    VHI, Quinn and Aviva cover surgical removal of wisdom teeth on all plans, its not counted as dental work. You should pay your consultation fee and X-rays but the proceedure itself is fully covered so long as the surgeon is fully covered which the chap (PK?) is in tralee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,381 ✭✭✭fakearms123


    Thanks, I rang VHI and I have to get consultation codes and a code from the oral surgeon.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Hi there,

    Impacted tooth codes (usually includes wisdom teeth) for VHI/Quinn/Aviva

    2973; removal of one upper impacted or unerupted tooth
    2974; removal of two upper impacted or unerupted teeth
    2976; removal of one lower impacted or unerupted tooth
    2977; removal of two lower impacted or unerupted teeth
    2981; removal of four or more impacted or unerupted teeth
    2982; removal of one upper & two lower impacted or unerupted teeth
    2983; removal of two upper & one lower impacted or unerupted teeth
    2984; removal of one upper & one lower impacted or unerupted teeth

    These codes apply to the general medical insurance (VHI/Quinn/Aviva). You do not need to have the extra dental plans....

    Consultation fee and x-ray are never covered by the med insurance companies.

    You should be covered for the codes above (ie the removal of these teeth). What may or may not be covered by your particular insurance plan is the hospital fees that are involved when admitted to hospital for a general anaesthetic.

    Check what code above applies to you. Check that your oral surgeon is fully participating and that you do not have to pay a top up fee on the removal of the teeth. Then check that the med insurance will cover the hospital stay and anesthetist fee. Sounds like a lot of work but this can be unnecessarily pricy if you don't check these things out.

    If there are big fees associated with the hospital or general anesthetic- look into IV sedation, a great alternative and does not cost extra with med insurance when the procedure is covered....

    All the best


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭annie_ie


    So happy to read this,was at the dentist other day and was told needed wisdom teeth out at top both sides plus couple.of fillings and a clean and when he showed.me break down and the cost it said €1,200. I nearly cried!
    I have aviva health insurance so delighted to read that I can get some of this work fully covered.

    Does anyone know do I have to get it done in a hospital in order for it to be covered or will.dental clinic be covered also?


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 21,725 Mod ✭✭✭✭helimachoptor


    annie_ie wrote: »
    So happy to read this,was at the dentist other day and was told needed wisdom teeth out at top both sides plus couple.of fillings and a clean and when he showed.me break down and the cost it said €1,200. I nearly cried!
    I have aviva health insurance so delighted to read that I can get some of this work fully covered.

    Does anyone know do I have to get it done in a hospital in order for it to be covered or will.dental clinic be covered also?

    Probably best to check with your insurer to be 100% sure on this. Everyone i know has went into hospital and its been covered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    annie_ie wrote: »
    So happy to read this,was at the dentist other day and was told needed wisdom teeth out at top both sides plus couple.of fillings and a clean and when he showed.me break down and the cost it said €1,200. I nearly cried!
    I have aviva health insurance so delighted to read that I can get some of this work fully covered.

    Does anyone know do I have to get it done in a hospital in order for it to be covered or will.dental clinic be covered also?

    Hi Annie,
    This is complicated- but important;

    These wisdom teeth extractions will be fully covered by your Aviva only if you meet all of the following points;
    • The teeth must be impacted or unerupted teeth (ie are they buried or only half up?) Fully erupted teeth are not covered.
    • The Oral Surgeon or OMFS doing the extractions must be a fully participating provider with Aviva. A dentist may be registered with Aviva but can not be "a fully participating member"; therefore a patient will still have to pay a top-up fee to the dentist. An oral surgeon has the option of not being a member with Aviva, being part participating (patient has to pay a top up fee) or fully participating (exclusive to oral surgeons or OMFS). Check who is doing the extractions and if they are fully participating...
    • You are definitely covered for this procedure under local anaesthetic or local anaesthetic with IV sedation in the surgeon's own clinic. Depending on your particular insurance plan, you may not be covered to have this done in a private hospital under general anaesthetic (ie despite being covered by points 1 & 2 above; you may have to pay the hospital and GA fee out of your own pocket. Check this but really nearly all upper wisdom teeth can be comfortably removed under LA or LA and IV sedation. GA is probably unnecessary.
    Good luck,
    OS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Probably best to check with your insurer to be 100% sure on this. Everyone i know has went into hospital and its been covered.

    Welcome new Mod;

    In my experience with Aviva/Quinn/Aviva; they actively try to confuse the patient and leave them with doubts and afraid that they will be left out of pocket so that they hopefully will not have the procedure and therefore save them money....

    A patient of mine rang Aviva to see if I was registered, she gave my full name and clinic address, they said that they had no record of me on their books (despite paying me directly for about 20 procedures per month for the past year!!!). The patient came to me with many doubts... I then rang Aviva and pretended to be a patient and asked if .....(me) was registered with them and they said no again, I then gave my Aviva registration number and was told "oh there you are" and that they could not find me before because they had spelt my surname incorrectly.....!!! COME ON....:confused::confused:
    I had the same situation with VHI too...

    If the medical insurer can scare the patient into thinking that the surgeon or procedure is not covered then the patient puts it off and saves them dollars.....

    Fully participating surgeons ask the patient to sign a form in order to collect the fee from the medical insurer directly (the patient does not pay the surgeon and then have to claim it back themselves) Therefore if the surgeon says that it is covered, you can be sure that it is, as the only person who will be out of pocket if it is not, is him/her.
    Consultation fees as with all consultants are payable by the patient...

    OS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 taffyl


    fakearms123 would you mind me asking how much you were quoted by the Bons? The oral surgeon I have been referred to in Dublin costs FROM 300 euro per tooth & my VHI only covers 60% of the cost so am wondering if I can afford it at the moment or if I got it done in Kerry would it be any cheaper. I understand you need someone who is specialist but it's just so expensive.. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    taffyl wrote: »
    fakearms123 would you mind me asking how much you were quoted by the Bons? The oral surgeon I have been referred to in Dublin costs FROM 300 euro per tooth & my VHI only covers 60% of the cost so am wondering if I can afford it at the moment or if I got it done in Kerry would it be any cheaper. I understand you need someone who is specialist but it's just so expensive.. :(

    As above, this is because the surgeon you are going to is part participating, find a fully participating surgeon and all you pay is the consult fee ( they are not allowed to ask for top up payments from patients). I can PM you a surgeon in Dublin if you would like (there are lots of fully participating surgeons out there). Let me know.

    As explained above the cheapest way to have them removed if you have medical insurance is to get a FULLY PARTICIPATING Oral surgeon. You will bay many hundreds extra using a part participating surgeon, the service and qualification are no different.

    In summary a FULLY participating surgeon charges only consult fee, the VHI pays 100% of the treatment cost, you pay NOTHING else.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 taffyl


    hmmm.. VHI have told me that the surgeon and the clinic have to be part of their scheme but even at that since I downgraded my plan (oops..) only 60% of the cost will be covered as a day case in a private clinic/hospital, 100% would be covered in a public hospital but I would imagine that an oral surgeon would be unlikely to be carrying out elective surgery on private patients in a public hospital?? The dentist in Dublin told me to just go to the oral surgeon for the consult & they will discuss cost options with me but I don't want to have a consult with someone if I don't end up getting it done in Dublin. Think I will ring the oral surgeon's clinic in Kerry & see what they say over the phone since they now have to give you an indication of cost (I note they don't have any prices on their website which I thought they legally had to do now). All a bit of a mess!. Thanks for reply though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    To repeat if you want I can send you the details of an Oral surgeon in Dublin who will charge you nothing except 100 euro consult fee no matter what you have done. I dont send unsolicited PM's so indicate if you want this. If you really want to go to kerry thats up to you, if you want to waste money on part participating surgeons that up to you also.
    Under no circumstances does anyone need to have a GA for wisdom teeth. Look into IV sedation is safer, less expensive and you recover faster.
    Read post 9 above.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12 taffyl


    Ok,ok if you say so. Appreciate it if you could pm me those details when you get chance then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭johnjoe1966


    hi

    can anyone send me details of find a fully participating surgeon where all you pay is the consult fee for removal of imapcted teeth:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    Under no circumstances does anyone need to have a GA for wisdom teeth.

    I'd 4 impacted wisdoms taken out under GA years ago in Vincent's.....I had a serious amount of stitches..........I wouldn't have thought iv sedation would be ideal in this scenario.?.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Why not? You can remove wisdom teeth just as well under sedation and stitch the mouth.. Infact there is a proven smaller risk of nerve damage removing wisdom teeth under sedation.

    People have hips replaced under sedation, people have brain surgery under sedation. People have bone grafting and dental implants with sedation of sometimes just with local alone. There are very few indications for GA in dentistry, and these are mostly special needs and child cases.

    The reason you had a GA was more to do with economics and convenience for the surgeon than clinical necessity, it also take a good bit longer to recover from a GA, never mind the risks of the GA. There will come a time when the VHI will stop paying out for unnecessary GA's for dental and then suddenly people won't need them anymore!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    At the time Fitz my impacted teeth were cased as a hospital job requiring the services of a "surgeon"........4 teeth out, tons of stitches ..... Your saying this can all be done in a dentists clinic under iv sedation? I felt I was run over by a truck after that op......

    My primary concern from a patients pov is who's minding shop when the patient is conked out or does the dentist muti task the whole procedure? During a multiple teeth job as above there will be blood loss, stitching, ensuring the patients vital stats are ok......there's a lot going on.

    What happens if the patient has a reaction to sedation ? Likewise I presume one who can administer iv is qualified on another level to the general level of dentistry? Is the iv sedation the same drug as they give you for a colonoscopy?

    Nite


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Wisdoms teeth under sedation is fine, its still an oral surgeon that does the job its just there is no tube down your throat breathing for you.

    There is a surgeon who posts here that can give you more info, but suffice to say he has removed 10,000's of wisdom teeth under sedation even the most difficult. The Dublin Dental hospital no longer have GA facilities for wisdom teeth and get on just fine with sedation.

    You are of course fully monitored under sedation, even thought is is much much safer than a GA and easily reversible if needed. Dentists who sedate would have further training in sedation.

    It one of those convenient lies, like not being able to remove a abscessed tooth that people accept. The reason you felt run over by a truck was more the aftereffects of the GA than the procedure itself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    Times have certainly moved on and in this case for the better. Appreciate reply, always have had a interest with dentistry and it's advancement. My own dentist couldn't believe I went home and googled fuji9 after treatment......I had to, the smell of it would knock a horse down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Bearcat wrote: »
    At the time Fitz my impacted teeth were cased as a hospital job requiring the services of a "surgeon"........4 teeth out, tons of stitches ..... Your saying this can all be done in a dentists clinic under iv sedation? I felt I was run over by a truck after that op......

    My primary concern from a patients pov is who's minding shop when the patient is conked out or does the dentist muti task the whole procedure? During a multiple teeth job as above there will be blood loss, stitching, ensuring the patients vital stats are ok......there's a lot going on.

    What happens if the patient has a reaction to sedation ? Likewise I presume one who can administer iv is qualified on another level to the general level of dentistry? Is the iv sedation the same drug as they give you for a colonoscopy?

    Nite

    A suitably qualified dentist/ oral surgeon is more than able to treat a patient under IV sedation safely. IV sedation training schemes teach the clinician how to treat patients to a very high standard but also in very safe manner. These schemes also further the clinicians knowledge of medical emergencies, airway management and most of all correct patient selection.

    As an oral surgeon and seditionist, I remove wisdom teeth under IV sedation every day, often all 4 wisdom teeth, the difficulty of the extraction is usually not a factor in deciding the type of anesthesia for me. In fact IV sedation can be used for much longer procedures such as implant and bone grafting cases comfortably...

    The drug used is usually midazolam and yes this is often used for scopes in hospitals etc...

    Feeling terrible after these procedures is common but I like to separate post op problems into surgical ones and anesthetic ones;

    The surgical problems such as pain, swelling, bruising, bleeding... are the same for GA, LA, IV sed with the same procedure.

    However, for a GA, you will often have post op nausea, tiredness and sore throat from the GA alone. You also risk greater complications by having a GA, chest infection, death!!
    For IV sedation, there is usually no post op nausea or throat pain etc. IMO, patients recover more quickly than GA.
    LA is fine for one or two teeth but IV sedation is more comfortable for the patient if more teeth or more difficult extractions are involved...

    All the best,
    OS


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Bearcat


    Thanks OS for detailed reply......everyday is a school day in my world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Brazzer


    2nd that on a surgeon to remove impacted wisdom teeth. Really don't want to go to hospital for this but my dentist said he can't do it and I'd need to have surgery. The whole hospital thing stresses me out for teeth, had an operation in St Vincents when I was 10 for a tooth that was growing sideways instead of upwards. Anyways, I'm not afraid of dentists, i go twice a year but the notion of having to go to hospital again would upset me, I had to stop using my braces when I was 14 because the ortho wouldn't continue treating me until the wisdom teeth came out. I'm considering getting my teeth fixed now and know the wisdom teeth should come out first, preferably in a non hospital environment tho :-(

    P.s - northside of Dublin would be preferred :-)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    In my experience with Aviva/Quinn/Aviva; they actively try to confuse the patient and leave them with doubts and afraid that they will be left out of pocket so that they hopefully will not have the procedure and therefore save them money....


    If the medical insurer can scare the patient into thinking that the surgeon or procedure is not covered then the patient puts it off and saves them dollars.....

    I don't think that's very fair or accurate.
    I work in the medical insurance industry and it's impossible for us to say with 100% certainty that something will definitely be covered. We can advise of cover as per terms and conditions but we cannot tell someone if they attend dentist x and pay €1000 they will definitely get back €1000.
    We can only advise of the cover for x procedure as per the t&c and whether or not a dentist is registered etc.
    Yes, it leaves doubt but it has to be done because often we get claims in where there is something amiss and the claim is denied as a result. So a person cannot be told in advance that they will definitely be covered.
    As I am sure most dentists would not tell a patient that a procedure will totally cure them or have no complications etc.
    We all have to cover our arses basically.
    Just in case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    ash23 wrote: »
    I don't think that's very fair or accurate.
    I work in the medical insurance industry and it's impossible for us to say with 100% certainty that something will definitely be covered. We can advise of cover as per terms and conditions but we cannot tell someone if they attend dentist x and pay €1000 they will definitely get back €1000.
    We can only advise of the cover for x procedure as per the t&c and whether or not a dentist is registered etc.
    Yes, it leaves doubt but it has to be done because often we get claims in where there is something amiss and the claim is denied as a result. So a person cannot be told in advance that they will definitely be covered.
    As I am sure most dentists would not tell a patient that a procedure will totally cure them or have no complications etc.
    We all have to cover our arses basically.
    Just in case.

    But you can tell them that for certain a FULLY participating surgeon can charge only the consultation fee to the patient and nothing else, there is only confusion with part participating surgeons. With wisdom teeth its much more cut and dried. With dental insurance for implants, fillings, crowns, root canals etc you are certainly correct its is more confusing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    But you can tell them that for certain a FULLY participating surgeon can charge only the consultation fee to the patient and nothing else, there is only confusion with part participating surgeons. With wisdom teeth its much more cut and dried. With dental insurance its is certainly more confusing.

    Yes but I was just pointing out that it's unfair to say that insurance companies create doubt in order to get out of paying claims. In my experience that is very far from the truth, both my professional experience and personal experience.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Fair enough, I think that Oral Surgeons opinion may also be derived from his personal and professional experiance (as are all our opinions). It is going to depend on who you get on the phone. Let hope people get onto ash23 who seem to know the score :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    ash23 wrote: »
    I don't think that's very fair or accurate.
    I work in the medical insurance industry and it's impossible for us to say with 100% certainty that something will definitely be covered. We can advise of cover as per terms and conditions but we cannot tell someone if they attend dentist x and pay €1000 they will definitely get back €1000.
    We can only advise of the cover for x procedure as per the t&c and whether or not a dentist is registered etc.
    Yes, it leaves doubt but it has to be done because often we get claims in where there is something amiss and the claim is denied as a result. So a person cannot be told in advance that they will definitely be covered.
    As I am sure most dentists would not tell a patient that a procedure will totally cure them or have no complications etc.
    We all have to cover our arses basically.
    Just in case.

    OK, maybe my language was a little dramatic in that post but I still stand by the point that the insurers could do more to properly inform patients.
    Yes, I have lots of patients coming to me who have what I say confirmed by the insurers... but I also have some who come back completely confused because they have been taking to someone in a call centre who just muddied the waters....

    I understand what you are saying- that you can't say with certainty that a procedure will be free without ever seeing the patient etc...

    My problem is that, after I have done a consultation and diagnosed the problem, made the treatment plan (for a covered procedure) and have told the patient that all they will need to do is sign a form.... sometimes the patient feels compelled to ring the insurer to check this out only to be told that this may not be the case and they may be liable for some or all of the cost of the surgery....!!!

    This is very frustrating and time consuming. Otherwise, I find dealing with the insurers quite good but this is an area that they could improve imo.

    Goodnight, OS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭ash23


    And we have situations where dentists tell people that they're covered and they're not.

    I wouldn't dream of tarring all dentists with the same brush (nor would I be allowed on this forum) so I think that should be the same in kind for insurance companies.

    It is also the case where people don't fully understand what they are told when they call as I am sure you have also experienced.

    I wish it were as simple as saying "yes you are covered". God knows my job would be a lot easier :rolleyes:
    but it's not really as clear cut as that. Terms and conditions apply :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    ash23 wrote: »
    And we have situations where dentists tell people that they're covered and they're not.

    I wouldn't dream of tarring all dentists with the same brush (nor would I be allowed on this forum) so I think that should be the same in kind for insurance companies.

    It is also the case where people don't fully understand what they are told when they call as I am sure you have also experienced.

    I wish it were as simple as saying "yes you are covered". God knows my job would be a lot easier :rolleyes:
    but it's not really as clear cut as that. Terms and conditions apply :p

    I think we are talking about 2 different situations here and you are correct for yours and I for mine....

    For yours, a dentist might tell a patient that their insurance will cover the cost of treatment, then the patient pays for that treatment but when they try to claim the money back from the med insurance company- they say no you are not covered etc etc....

    For mine, I (as a fully participating oral surgeon with the med insurance companies) tell a patient that their insurance will cover the cost of treatment, then the patient has the treatment, does not pay me and I claim off the insurance company directly. If anyone stands to lose here, it is me, so therefore I make certain that a procedure is covered before saying so...

    This is just my own experience....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37 Col1980


    To repeat if you want I can send you the details of an Oral surgeon in Dublin who will charge you nothing except 100 euro consult fee no matter what you have done. I dont send unsolicited PM's so indicate if you want this. If you really want to go to kerry thats up to you, if you want to waste money on part participating surgeons that up to you also.
    Under no circumstances does anyone need to have a GA for wisdom teeth. Look into IV sedation is safer, less expensive and you recover faster.
    Read post 9 above.

    Fitzgeme,

    Would it be possible to PM me details of fully participating surgeons in Dublin.

    Thanks in advance.

    Colmq


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 105 ✭✭Brazzer


    Hi Oral Surgeon, would you be able to PM me with surgeons who use the IV method for wisdom teeth extraction please? My own dentist recommended someone who he told me would knock me out and I would need to have it done (with him) in a hospital. I'm living in Dublin, northside would be preferable but I'm not held to a specific area.

    Many thanks in advance :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Brazzer wrote: »
    Hi Oral Surgeon, would you be able to PM me with surgeons who use the IV method for wisdom teeth extraction please? My own dentist recommended someone who he told me would knock me out and I would need to have it done (with him) in a hospital. I'm living in Dublin, northside would be preferable but I'm not held to a specific area.

    Many thanks in advance :-)

    PMs sent,
    OS


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1 poca


    Hi OS

    Can u pm me with the name of a fully participating consultant in Dublin please?

    Thanks

    Poca


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 mymalovesme


    Hi

    I am in terrible pain as I type. I have a cavity in a lower right wisdom tooth. Dentist told me it needs to be extracted by an oral surgeon. €100 consultation/€395 for the tooth. I have Health Insurance with Aviva.

    Can someone PM me a list of fully participating oral surgeons in Dublin? I am determined to get some value for the years of paying insurance ...

    Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Hi

    I am in terrible pain as I type. I have a cavity in a lower right wisdom tooth. Dentist told me it needs to be extracted by an oral surgeon. €100 consultation/€395 for the tooth. I have Health Insurance with Aviva.

    Can someone PM me a list of fully participating oral surgeons in Dublin? I am determined to get some value for the years of paying insurance ...

    Thanks in advance to anyone who can help!

    As you have been told, consultations and X-rays are not covered by health insurance. Your aviva should cover the full cost of the wisdom tooth removal provided the tooth is "impacted" and that you have your insurance for more than 6 months.

    Os


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56 ✭✭veruca salt


    Hi there,
    Could you please pm me the name of a fully participating surgeon too? I have vhi insurance!
    Thanks in advance! :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Hi there,
    Could you please pm me the name of a fully participating surgeon too? I have vhi insurance!
    Thanks in advance! :)

    Pm sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 savs


    Hi there,
    Could you please pm me a list of fully participating oral surgeons in Dublin as well?
    I have Aviva insurance and was quoted 100 euro consultation fee, 74 euro top up and 200 euro fee for IV sedation with partially participating surgeon. I believe IV sedation would be covered by insurance?
    Thanks in advance!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    Hey guys, just wanted to let you know, I got referred to a specialist private clinic in the North which are taking out my 2 impacted lower wisdom teeth for £325 which isn't bad. Price includes sedation and as I got referred and my x-rays sent, the lady said it may cost less because of this.

    I'll report more when I get my teeth out, it's not a bad price and as I live in Donegal, its as easy for me as going to one of local towns to get it done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 le_nka2


    Hi Oral Surgeon,
    Could you please pm me the name of a fully participating surgeon?
    I have Aviva insurance. Thank you


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭tatabubbly


    Hey guys, I got two of my wisdom teeth out for €240 in Derry. I'm feeling pretty tender.... But its not too bad..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭paddyp


    tatabubbly wrote: »
    Hey guys, I got two of my wisdom teeth out for €240 in Derry. I'm feeling pretty tender.... But its not too bad..

    Could you tell me who you used? Thanks, Paddy


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3 mementor


    To repeat if you want I can send you the details of an Oral surgeon in Dublin who will charge you nothing except 100 euro consult fee no matter what you have done. I dont send unsolicited PM's so indicate if you want this. If you really want to go to kerry thats up to you, if you want to waste money on part participating surgeons that up to you also.
    Under no circumstances does anyone need to have a GA for wisdom teeth. Look into IV sedation is safer, less expensive and you recover faster.
    Read post 9 above.

    Hi,
    I'm with Laya (company care - no excess plan). Do you know if it covers for wisdom teeth removal? Does anybody have a list of fully participating surgeons in Dublin? (Also I'd be very interested if you'd actually propose one or two of them - me being very afraid of the whole process/implications. I need to get a semi-erupted wisdom tooth that is starting giving my jaw trouble).

    Thanks a million in advance!

    PS: I'd strongly prefer sedation against GA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭Gatica


    Hi Oral Surgeon, would you mind sending me the list of participating surgeons in Galway for VHI please?

    I need to get wisdom teeth out and have been referred to a private 3 hospital, didn't think to ask for the doctor's name.
    I've asked VHI what's covered and they said there will be an excess (because it's private 3) for the hospital but that I need to get the name of the consultant to check the rest...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Gatica wrote: »
    Hi Oral Surgeon, would you mind sending me the list of participating surgeons in Galway for VHI please?

    I need to get wisdom teeth out and have been referred to a private 3 hospital, didn't think to ask for the doctor's name.
    I've asked VHI what's covered and they said there will be an excess (because it's private 3) for the hospital but that I need to get the name of the consultant to check the rest...

    pm sent


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,302 ✭✭✭Gatica


    Thank you! That was very helpful. I wasn't given this information when I made the appointment to see the consultant and the receptionist was very short with me when I called back to cancel the appointment because they were not fully participating... ah well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭Tilikum


    pm sent

    Hi oral surgeon,

    I'm with Glohealth. Do you know if they pay for wisdom teeth extraction? Also, could you please pm me the list for participating surgeons in Galway too.

    Thanks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    Tilikum wrote: »
    Hi oral surgeon,

    I'm with Glohealth. Do you know if they pay for wisdom teeth extraction? Also, could you please pm me the list for participating surgeons in Galway too.

    Thanks!

    PM sent.

    Glohealth, like all medical insurance pay for the removal of impacted or un-erupted teeth. Wisdom teeth are often impacted or un-erupted but not always. They must be impacted or un-erupted to be covered. Only your dentist or oral surgeon can confirm that....

    I don't have a list of participating surgeons. Different oral surgeons will be participating, part- participating, not participating or expelled from providing treatment under these schemes. An updated and publically accessible list is not available. Even the insurance companies themselves don't release this information readily..... I can only give the limited information I have, not a comprehensive list...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 154 ✭✭zenith90


    Is wisdom tooth extraction covered by all health insurance plans as standard or just on the more expensive plans?

    I have an entry level plan and am unsure if this would be covered by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,240 ✭✭✭Oral Surgeon


    zenith90 wrote: »
    Is wisdom tooth extraction covered by all health insurance plans as standard or just on the more expensive plans?

    I have an entry level plan and am unsure if this would be covered by it.

    They are covered only if they are impacted or unerupted. The exact plan does not matter...


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