Do you use more americanised or anglicised language?

Downlinz

For most words from both cultures creep into our dialogue. Which do you feel influence you more?

Cookie_Monster

Hiberniaised

Kevin Duffy

Downlinz wrote: »

words from both cultures creep into our dialogue. Which do you feel influence you more?

Er, both choices are a language that has gone a long way beyond "a few words" and has entirely replaced our own.

Dravokivich

I oblai englai

RachaelVO

In Ireland I do use the ol HibernoEnglish and huge amount!
When I'm writing I used British English.

But for some strange reason when I talking to people who are not native english speakers I will use a lot of american english (ie Diapers instead of Nappies) as it's what they know from sit coms n stuff!

Good question though, I had to think about it (which hurt my brain a bit)

J. Marston

It's only the way people talk, innit bruv? Gosh, who really cares?

:pac:

holystungun9

What-everrrr

orourkeda

Downlinz wrote: »

For most words from both cultures creep into our dialogue. Which do you feel influence you more?

For real yo

Killer Pigeon

It's like asking "Do you speak English or do you speak Newspeak".

orourkeda

Orwight you facking cant

I use more UK English than US English and try to avoid using Americanisms whenever possible - I'm not American so don't see the point.

Logical Fallacy

I use the word "dude" far more than i should, which i will happily blame on being a massive Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles when i was a kid.

Most of my slang is probably English though, terms like "bare","flex","gully" etc...this is largely driven by the fact that a lot of the producers i work with are UK based...so i tend to pick up a lot of the slang from the UK underground music scene.

The fact that the majority of the country speaks English, as does America, kind of negates any attempt to answer this question outside of the realms of slang or things that might have infiltrated the non classic vernacular though.

Badgermonkey

Yo Yanks - quit yo crazy talk with the word 'Awesome'


A volcano is awesome,

a tsunami is awesome,

the earth viewed from space, again awesome.

Front row seats for Bieber in Vegas, no sorry, it's just not.

deise go deo

I'm Gaelicized, a Mhac

Duckworth_Luas

I refuse to be Americanized!

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

My family lived in New York for several years so I'd have an American influence on my my choice of words.

Deus Ex Machina

I don't like "Americanized" spelling, it seems heavily dumbed down or something. It gets on my nerves when that little red line pops up under correctly spelled word and an "color" is suggested as the word you intended.

Jim

I wish everyone would stop saying Lame and Douche.

CrackisWhack

Cant stand American slang, you see it on boards a fair bit, like:

So much win

Epic fail

Awesome

I wish people would stop using this type of slang.:rolleyes:

goose2005

dis tred be makin me irie, mon.

mike65

I get with the programme and watch Tv series.

Witchie

Actually Canadian rather than American coz spent my early childhood there and learned to speak there so it creeps in a little now and then.

partyatmygaff

Jim wrote: »

I wish everyone would stop saying Lame and Douche.

Lame comes from Old English and Douche is a French word... Just because the Americans stole them doesn't mean we can't too.

Dunjohn

I'm amazed we haven't picked up more Polish terms yet. You'd think everybody would recognise "dupek" by now, at least.

Agricola

Hibero-English for me. The idea of using the word guv is very strange!

That reminds of a podcast I listen to. The English guy who hosts it is so in love with American culture he always uses the American version of our words, (in order that his US listeners wouldnt have to engage their brains in any way) For example, "I popped the hood and made sure the engine was getting gas, I then ate a cookie while looking at my reflection in the windshield"

I think thats the worst kind of "ass kissing" ever. Be who you are and be proud of it.

ISDW

When did Irish mammys become moms? Drives me nuts:rolleyes:

Luxie

I always write in 'Standard' British English.

As for the spoken I switch automatically to Hiberno English amongst compadres, equally automatically to British English amongst foreigners.

Azureus

I also hate the words lame and douche more than anything, dont care where they originated, they just wreck my head!

I use more English-style language, but a lot of my family are from there so I used to visit a lot when I was younger. Now a lot of my friends work over there so come back and the words just kinda slip into vocabulary.

Avoid american-isms as much as possible, I hate it when Irish people sound like they've just stepped out of an american sitcom.

TaraFoxglove

OP, we're Anglicised by virtue of speaking English. We speak Hiberno-English. Most of us would write in British English.

I like a lot of American slang. People are only against it because the US is a hegemony and that pisses us off. I like lots of British slang too. I don't care if it bothers people that I use slang from either country, we are influenced by both whether we like it or not.

The only American phrase that pisses me off is "I could care less" because it doesn't make any sense.

American English on the whole doesn't piss me off. It's natural that it evolved differently to British English with a whole ocean (and a certain rocky outcrop) between the countries and slower lines of communication back in the day.

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I don't like "Americanized" spelling, it seems heavily dumbed down or something.

-ise and -ize are both correct in British English:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/page/157

But don't let that stop you getting a bee in your bonnet about it.

partyatmygaff wrote: »

Lame comes from Old English

Yup, lots of American phrases are from old English.

liah

Americanized for obvious reasons But I do also have a pretty anglicised vocabulary after having lived in the UK/Ireland.

Sort of a combination, I guess.

Blisterman

I hate the idea (mostly held by British people from my experience) that there's a correct way of using English and all other ways are incorrect. No such thing exists. There are literally hundreds of different dialects of English. Even the Oxford English Dictionary can't really claim to be the authority on the language.The language predates that by the best part of a millenium.

The purpose of language is communication and expression. If you can do both these, exactly how you do it shouldn't be a concern. You say a concert is awesome, anyone claiming they don't know what you mean is being nothing more than a pedent.

Structurally Sound Mentally Unstable

What I find is that the more and more I mock everyone for using American slang, the more it slips into my everyday us. And I HATE it.

Thank fukc I have friends who are more than happy to give me a clatter across the head when they catch me:pac:

English slang, on the other hand, causes steam to shoot out of my ears when I hear it.:cool:

ejmaztec

Structurally Sound Mentally Unstable wrote: »

What I find is that the more and more I mock everyone for using American slang, the more it slips into my everyday us. And I HATE it.

Thank fukc I have friends who are more than happy to give me a clatter across the head when they catch me:pac:

English slang, on the other hand, causes steam to shoot out of my ears when I hear it.:cool:

Did you get some steam there?

Anglo-Saxon expletives have taken Ireland by storm.

Killer Wench

OMG, like totally American.

getz

Blisterman wrote: »

I hate the idea (mostly held by British people from my experience) that there's a correct way of using English and all other ways are incorrect. No such thing exists. There are literally hundreds of different dialects of English. Even the Oxford English Dictionary can't really claim to be the authority on the language.The language predates that by the best part of a millenium.

The purpose of language is communication and expression. If you can do both these, exactly how you do it shouldn't be a concern. You say a concert is awesome, anyone claiming they don't know what you mean is being nothing more than a pedent.

most every county/area in england uses different words and accents,take lancs [lancashire]it is a mixture of english and the old celtic language,but anglo/american is not a new thing ,in the early 60s radio DJs would talk in a mid-adlantic speak

Deus Ex Machina

TaraFoxglove wrote: »

-ise and -ize are both correct in British English:

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/page/157

But don't let that stop you getting a bee in your bonnet about it.

I didn't say either was correct or incorrect, but don't let that stop you referencing dictionaries.

TaraFoxglove

Deus Ex Machina wrote: »

I didn't say either was correct or incorrect, but don't let that stop you referencing dictionaries.

Americanized spelling isn't dumbed down. The languages evolved differently in the separate countries, like every other Anglophone country in the world.

The Hill Billy

At home I speak hiberno-english, but write in UK english.
However, I work in Switzerland with many different nationalities (all of whom speak english). When speaking with members of Commonwealth countries (Indians, Pakistanis, Nigerians, Trinidad & Tobagans, Kiwis, Aussies, etc) I use UK english. But, I find that most Swiss & continental Europeans favour American english so I switch over for them.

Predator_

What a west Brit thread lol

Fnordius

As an American who lives in Munich and only visits Ireland, I would have to say the Irish choice of words is still unique, and actually fitting for a place that is a commercial crossroads. And here I thought the Irish dialect had a lot of influence in how the American dialect was shaped. You can especially hear it in the R when used at the end of a word.

So really, if you like, a lot of American terms could be considered Irish colloquialisms coming back home with a deep tan and loud clothes...

Buceph

CrackisWhack wrote: »

Cant stand American slang, you see it on boards a fair bit, like:

So much win

Epic fail

Awesome

I wish people would stop using this type of slang.:rolleyes:

Those two are nerd/gamer slang that's developed into general internet slang, not American slang.

sbsquarepants

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I use the word "dude" far more than i should, which i will happily blame on being a massive Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles when i was a kid.

Most of my slang is probably English though, terms like "bare","flex","gully" etc...this is largely driven by the fact that a lot of the producers i work with are UK based...so i tend to pick up a lot of the slang from the UK underground music scene.

.

I've no idea what any of these mean!
Note to self, get out more:D

Jim wrote: »

I wish everyone would stop saying Lame and Douche.

I'm with you jim, anytime i hear anyone use the term douche bag, or doofus i get an overwhelming urge to punch them:mad:

Big Nasty

I've found myself saying the likes of 'talk to you Tuesday' instead of 'I will talk to you on Tuesday'.

Also I use 'dude' a lot!

Killer Pigeon

Fnordius wrote: »

As an American who lives in Munich and only visits Ireland, I would have to say the Irish choice of words is still unique, and actually fitting for a place that is a commercial crossroads. And here I thought the Irish dialect had a lot of influence in how the American dialect was shaped. You can especially hear it in the R when used at the end of a word.

So really, if you like, a lot of American terms could be considered Irish colloquialisms coming back home with a deep tan and loud clothes...

We're not talking specifically about dialect here, Americans don't spell properly and it's becoming contagious.

Da Shins Kelly

Mainly Hiberno-English, but there are elements of all three.

Big Nasty

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Americans don't spell properly and it's becoming contagious.

Cuntages!:pac:

Fnordius

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

We're not talking specifically about dialect here, Americans don't spell properly and it's becoming contagious.

Actually, that in itself was the result of a concerted effort of a Mr. Noah Webster, the man who compiled the original Webster's Dictionary. He wanted to clear up some of the inconsistent spelling rules of the time, and thus spelling in the USA diverged from the standards that were adapted as standard in the British Empire.

These efforts continued into the 20th century, with the introduction of using "-ite" and phasing out the alternative "-ight". But I digress.

Daegerty

What aroo thawken abawt?

landsleaving

Blisterman wrote: »

The purpose of language is communication and expression. If you can do both these, exactly how you do it shouldn't be a concern. You say a concert is awesome, anyone claiming they don't know what you mean is being nothing more than a pedent.

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Daegerty

landsleaving wrote: »

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CHealy

Definetly find myself saying "bloke", "mate" and even caught myself saying my own Cork version of "innit" the other day. Disgusted, nipped right in the bud with that one anyway.

I think I was trying so hard not to use American words that I went the other way.