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Tarantino western - Django Unchained

  • 30-04-2011 12:14pm
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    http://collider.com/quentin-tarantino-django-unchained/88262/

    It's been known for a while that Tarantino's next film would be some kind of spaghetti western. Now we have the title and (apparently) the first page of the script. Django is obviously a reference to Corbucci's 1966 film. However, there were dozens if not hundreds of imitators and unofficial sequels to that film, so it's a mistake to think of this as a remake. Not least because Tarantino has made it quite clear that he doesn't do remakes, adaptations or co-writers anymore. And Inglourious Basterds had little or nothing to do with the 1978 film of the same name. So the title is mostly likely just a nod to that film.

    It seems the script is finished and Franco Nero (the original Django) and Christoph Waltz are attached to star. Can't wait.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    I was skeptical that QT could pull off a WW2 picture, but hapilly ate those words when Basterds came out. Plus if he can get another performance like that out of Waltz colour me excited!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Hopefully it will be a bit better than Takeshii Miike's Sukiyaki Western Django featuring Mr. Tarantino. Nothing wrong with it, and good fun, but far from the genre masterpiece I expected from such talent!

    Hopefully something playful to rank alongside something like The Good, The Bad and The Weird. There's enough serious Westerns out there, bring on a bit of fun!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,076 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    I wonder whether the new Django will still be dragging that coffin around ..? :D

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,710 ✭✭✭✭Skerries


    Hopefully it will be a bit better than Takeshii Miike's Sukiyaki Western Django featuring Mr. Tarantino. Nothing wrong with it, and good fun, but far from the genre masterpiece I expected from such talent!

    i had to give up watching this as i couldn't understand a thing they said
    they should have left it in Japanese and put subtitles in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 402 ✭✭Ronanc1


    As long as theres lots of Ennio Morricone scores in it I'll be happy :D


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Been meaning to watch Sukiyaki Western Django for a while, it worth watching?

    I've been jonesing for a spaghetti western for ages and can't really think of a more perfect director to make one, bring on the inevitable Morricone soundtrack!!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Yeah, Tarantino needs to hurry up and make this while Morricone is still around to do it. Although didn't Ennio turn him down the last time?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Yeah, Tarantino needs to hurry up and make this while Morricone is still around to do it. Although didn't Ennio turn him down the last time?

    I remember reading before Basterds came out that Morricone had agreed to score it, not sure what happened then though, maybe he didn't feel up to it or Tarantino changed his mind? I know they used some of his music in it. I just couldn't see a bona fide film geek like Tarantino making a spaghetti western and not getting Morricone to do it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    I have to say that this is the first Tarantino film I've been excited about in a long time. If it's remotely close to as good as Takeshi Kitano's variation on Zatoichi I'll be happy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭Phony Scott


    Tarantino has made it quite clear that he doesn't do remakes, adaptations or co-writers anymore.

    Was the Jackie Brown really that bad?!? I certainly don't think so.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Was the Jackie Brown really that bad?!? I certainly don't think so.
    Jackie Brown was excellent and probably his best film. But it was based on a book so he couldn't take all the "glory" for himself. It's an ego thing.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Jackie Brown was excellent and probably his best film. But it was based on a book so he couldn't take all the "glory" for himself. It's an ego thing.

    I'd imagine that the constant debate regarding who wote what in Pulp Fiction between him and Avery has severly hurt his ego. I enjoy Tarantino's film but find him to be one of the most over rated film makers of all time.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Been meaning to watch Sukiyaki Western Django for a while, it worth watching?

    Nah, not really worth watching, as said it's only OK and full of bad English. Watch the Good, the Bad and the Weird instead!

    Thought this might have been a sequel or somethig to the Miike film, given Tarantino's presence in that. Now we can only hope Tarantino doesn't indulge in his worst excesses!


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Nah, not really worth watching, as said it's only OK and full of bad English. Watch the Good, the Bad and the Weird instead!

    Seen The Good the Bad and the Weird a few times, bloody great film!

    Bad English? I thought it was in Japanese apart from Tarantino's bits, might steer clear so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Jackie Brown was excellent and probably his best film. But it was based on a book so he couldn't take all the "glory" for himself. It's an ego thing.

    Yeah, he's a bit obsessed with the ol' auterism alright. He get's a lot of flak for it but he's not as bad as some of the others. Robert Redford, Kenneth Brannagh and Lars Von Trier all come to mind.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,019 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    Seen The Good the Bad and the Weird a few times, bloody great film!

    Bad English? I thought it was in Japanese apart from Tarantino's bits, might steer clear so.

    Nope, all English, bizarrely - one stylistic trick that certainly doesn't work. The whole thing plays out like a less assured version of A Fistful of Dollars - and speaking of that, check out Yojimbo (which AFOD is based on) and Sanjuro for the definitive Eastern Westerns!

    Actually, thinking about it, it's surprising how many Asian Westerns there are :pac:


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Nope, all English, bizarrely - one stylistic trick that certainly doesn't work. The whole thing plays out like a less assured version of A Fistful of Dollars - and speaking of that, check out Yojimbo (which AFOD is based on) and Sanjuro for the definitive Eastern Westerns!

    Actually, thinking about it, it's surprising how many Asian Westerns there are :pac:

    Seen Yojimbo a few times! Not got round to watching Sanjuro yet. Toshiro Mifune is my desktop wallpaper at the moment :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭MrSir




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Sounds good. I expect the whole script will be online before long.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,942 ✭✭✭missingtime


    I didnt know Sally Menke died in sept last year! Wonder will it have an effect on this movie

    http://www.slashfilm.com/sally-menke-quentin-tarantinos-longtime-editor-has-died-at-56/


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,676 ✭✭✭dr gonzo


    Im gonna remain skeptical about this project until i see a good trailer or something. Tarantino irritates me. He has some classics alright but Death Proof was awful and barring a few scenes (Including anything with Waltz) i thought basterds was rubbish.

    I hope this is good though, i do like westerns.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    MrSir wrote: »

    Well that sounds interesting, Django is going to be
    black
    and I'm stoked to see Waltz in that role, nice to see
    he's not been cast as a villain again!

    dr gonzo wrote: »
    Im gonna remain skeptical about this project until i see a good trailer or something. Tarantino irritates me. He has some classics alright but Death Proof was awful and barring a few scenes (Including anything with Waltz) i thought basterds was rubbish.

    I hope this is good though, i do like westerns.

    I really think the potential is there for him to knock this one out of the park, he's obviously been itching to make a western considering the tone of parts of both Inglorious Basterds and Kill Bill(particularly Vol 2). This is up there with The Dark Knight Rises in terms of anticipation for me.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Early Casting rumour for the title role in this, apparently QT wants Will Smith. Not an actor I'd expect to see in a film like this, could be a great choice imho, although part of me would like to see someone like Michael Jai White get the role :)

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/49548


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I've been trying to sell a western script for the past two years which is strangely similiar to Tarantino's.

    "Set during the latter days of the civil war, it's starts with the execution of a small southern land owner who helped run slaves through the underground railroad. The free slave who worked the land with him escapes the town and tracks down his friends brother who is a bounty hunter and together they return to seek revenge and rescue his brothers wife now being held prisoner by the outher General behind her husbands execution and the biggest land owner in the region".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    who's your prediction for the bad guy ?

    knowing Tarintino it will probably be an old former western star


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ricero wrote: »
    who's your prediction for the bad guy ?

    knowing Tarintino it will probably be an old former western star

    Fraco Nero is all ready suposedly attached so I'd imagine that either he's the baddie or else he mentors our heros in some regard, maybe gives them a gatling gun encased in a coffin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Will Smith is Quentin Tarantino's first choice for the lead in his latest project "Django Unchained," the director's new screenplay that's been making the Hollywood rounds over the past week.
    Tarantino's "Inglourious Basterds" star Christoph Waltz is attached to play Dr. King Schultz, one of the pic's two leads. While the title role has yet to be cast, Tarantino wrote the script with Smith in mind, and multiple sources tell Variety that he's already been informally offered the role.

    Story centers on a slave-turned-bounty hunter on a mission to rescue his wife Broomhilda from her sadistic slavemaster.

    Insiders say Smith would be willing to give up his usual $20 million salary for the chance to tackle different, more controversial material -- just as Brad Pitt did to star in "Basterds." And Smith has long been seeking edgier roles.

    Tarantino is said to have reached out to Pitt for one of the numerous juicy supporting roles in "Django," but the actor has decided not to pursue the project at this time.

    Tarantino has also been looking to work with Leonardo DiCaprio. Several years ago, Variety reported that Tarantino was courting DiCaprio for the villainous role of Hans Landa in "Basterds," (July 15, 2008), which ultimately went to Waltz. Likewise, Tarantino is believed to have written the role of Dr. Schultz for DiCaprio, but when he passed, it was modified for Waltz.

    Tarantino is also seeking a reunion with Samuel L. Jackson, who is being courted for the role of Stephen, the main servant to the chief antagonist in the Southern-flavored western.

    While "Django Unchained" does not yet have a distributor, Harvey Weinstein has handled distribution for all of Tarantino's movies. Perhaps coincidentally, Weinstein paid a visit Friday at CAA, which reps Smith.

    http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118036551

    Samuel L and Smith possibly playing slaves in a Tarantino film? My interest has been heightened. ;) DiCaprio seems to be avoiding Tarantino like the plague for some reason.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    As expected, the script has leaked online. I read a bit of it last night. Pretty good so far.

    Smith is good casting imo. He's an excellent actor, although you wouldn't think it going by his recent films.


  • Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    As expected, the script has leaked online. I read a bit of it last night. Pretty good so far.

    Smith is good casting imo. He's an excellent actor, although you wouldn't think it going by his recent films.

    Last time Smith tested himself was in Ali, be nice to see him try something different as on recent form it seems that he's slipping into the Denzel Washington school of acting.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    No role for Uma Thurman :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    No role for Uma Thurman :p

    Christ I hope not.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,905 ✭✭✭✭Handsome Bob


    Tarantino may yet achieve his desire to cast DiCaprio:
    Is there truth to be found on Twitter? Well, there was on the matter of Django Unchained being the next offering from Quentin Tarantino, which raises the possibility that the man intends to continue leaking bits and pieces of information out this way.

    Here's what we know for sure: First, the film is a racially charged 'southern', a film revolving around a former slave turned bounty hunter. We know Franco Nero and Christoph Waltz are on board and that offers have been made to Will Smith. That's all for real. And now Twitter fueled speculation that Idris Elba and Leonardo DiCaprio may both be signing on as well. The Elba thing, frankly, is rank speculation based on the actor tweeting that he was going out for something controversial but the man would be a perfect fit so it's hard not to hope. DiCaprio seems like more solid info, with former Creative Screenwriting editor Jeff Goldsmith tweeting that DiCaprio has been firmly cast as the lead villain for the picture. Goldsmith is the guy who got the ball rolling on the Will Smith news, so he certainly seems to have the inside line on this one and DiCaprio is a director who Tarantino has publicly admired - and pursued for Inglourious Basterds - and who also seems like an obvious fit for this sort of role which makes this, though still a rumor, at least a plausible rumor.

    http://twitchfilm.com/news/2011/05/random-tweet-and-blather-leonardo-dicaprio-and-idris-elba-joining-tarantinos-django-unchained.php

    I'd love to see both DiCaprio and Elba in this film, DiCaprio for obvious reasons, while Elba has amazing screen presence and a good actor to boot.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,857 ✭✭✭indough


    dicaprio playing a villain? that sounds interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74 ✭✭paligulus1


    Interesting interview with Kevin Smith and his wife, Jen Schwalbach interviewing Michael K. Williams. In the middle of it Michael brings up the new Tarantino film and says that there is a part in it that is made for him, and he is determined to get it!

    You have to admire his "hudspah"! It would be great to see him get the role as his performances in the Wire and Boardwalk Empire have been really special.

    http://smodcast.com/perdiem/michaelkwilliams.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    http://www.digitalspy.ie/movies/news/a324881/jamie-foxx-to-join-new-quentin-tarantino-film.html

    Jamie Foxx is reportedly the frontrunner for Quentin Tarantino's forthcoming movie Django Unchained.

    The Oscar-winning actor would fill the role for which Tarantino previously wanted Men in Black III star Will Smith, according to Showbiz 411. Idris Elba has been rumored for the part as well.

    Leonardo DiCaprio has also officially joined the film, according to the site. It was reported last week that the Departed actor was in talks for the role of the villainous plantation owner Calvin Candie.

    X-Men: First Class actor Michael Fassbender announced last week via Twitter that he had joined the cast of the movie as well, though the post was quickly taken down.

    "Great news everyone. Quentin Tarantino has asked me to be his latest film Django Unchained. He was talking so fast, but I said 'f***, yes'," Fassbender wrote.

    Shortly after, he continued: "Wait, forget I told you about the Tarantino thing, I wasn't supposed to! F***. My cue to log off."

    Fassbender's casting currently remains unconfirmed.

    Django Unchained revolves around Django, an escaped slave who teams up with a German bounty hunter to free his wife from slavery and get revenge on his former master.

    Django Unchained is scheduled for a 2013 release.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Jamie Foxx no, Idris Elba YES PLEASE!


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    It would seem that the lead role has gone to Foxx. Nothing against him as an actor, but I would have preferred Smith. Disappointing that he let this role pass him by.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    It would seem that the lead role has gone to Foxx. Nothing against him as an actor, but I would have preferred Smith. Disappointing that he let this role pass him by.

    I'm disappointed too. Jamie Foxx is fine (although it's been quite a while since I've seen anything from him), but I think Will Smith would have been great in a role like this. It sounds like a really interesting project, it seems strange that Smith would let it go to someone else. Maybe Tarantino changed his mind and wanted Foxx instead. I think Will Smith is a better actor than Jamie Foxx though. I'd also love to see Di Caprio and Smith in a film together. I think they're both two of the better actors of the current generation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    ......oops

    Seems i was wrong :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    Yeah, Tarantino needs to hurry up and make this while Morricone is still around to do it. Although didn't Ennio turn him down the last time?
    Tarantino said he preferred to use existing music because the soundtrack is so important in a film and he didn't to give that level of creative control away by having a composer make an OST.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    Can't wait for this

    I can see why people think he's overrated but even in his worst film, Deathproof

    There's some brilliant set-pieces


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Joseph Gordon-Levitt is in talks to star also :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,318 ✭✭✭Fishooks12


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Joseph Gordon-Levitt is in talks to star also :)


    Even better!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89,021 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Sacha Baron Cohen and Kerry Washington join the cast


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 545 ✭✭✭WatchWolf


    Has it began filming yet? Any idea when we're getting a teaser?


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,531 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Here's a spanish teaser poster:

    djangounchainedteaser.jpg?1334185867

    Looks cool enough. I like that Tarantino seems to be constantly paying homage to Sergio Leone in his last few films all the time but it would be nice if he changes it up after this film.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,807 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    The international poster is to be unveiled tonight at 10pm.


  • Site Banned Posts: 1,856 ✭✭✭paddy kerins


    Trailer soon so?


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