Real Backstage Stories/Fallouts

viper.10

If anybody has any real-life stories or fallouts that has happened in wrestling like the John Morrison/Melina/Batista thing or Bret/Vince fallout or anything like that, please add your story here

rossie1977

there are loads but this is probably my favourite from 2009

PWInsider.com has revealed more details behind the fight, which apparently began when Big Show instigated The Great Khali. Show had been upset with Khali for a few weeks because he felt that Khali used to many moves in the ring that should be made available only to Big Show as he is a "giant."

According to a backstage source present at the house show, Khali and Big Show were verbally arguing for several minutes before Big Show decided to throw the first punch, however he tripped over someone's bag and fell to the ground. Khali jumped on Show and the two began fighting on the ground, with Khali apparently in clear control before the fight was broken up.

PTH2009

rossie1977 wrote: »

there are loads but this is probably my favourite from 2009

would not like to have to break up that fight lol

riffmongous

I just got Jericho's 2nd book yesterday and he talks about a fight between himself and Goldberg. There was some bad blood between them from WCW and when Goldberg came to WWE he apparently started thrashing Jericho behind his back to Nash. So Jericho confronted him backstage, a pushing match started and Goldberg tried to tackle Jericho. Jericho caught him in a front facelock, then turned it into a guillotine choke (referencing Royce Gracie as he describes it in the book) and Goldberg wasn't able to escape before it was broken up.

viper.10

When Hulk Hogan was in WCW he refused to put Sting over clean despite a year and a half of build up and then alongside Eric Bischoff, Time Warner/AOL and Vince Russo tore the company apart because he just couldn't give up his spot despite being in his mid 40's. In his third WWE run he even ****ed over Kevin Nash and Scott Hall who had come in with him as The New World Order by telling Vince McMahon he wanted to go face and have a run with the WWE title which basically killed off The New World Order straight away after month's of build up.

Hulk Hogan knew straight from the start what he was doing in 2005 in regards to his matches with Shawn Michaels as the two of them and Vince McMahon had been talking about it since WrestleMania 21 and it had been agreed that Hulk Hogan would win the first match at SummerSlam as it is the second biggest PPV of the year and then Shawn Michaels would win the rematch at the next PPV so that if there were ever to be a third match it would be a rubber and would be a good draw.

Backstage on the day of the match Hulk Hogan said that his knee's were shot and that his hip was really bothering him so there was no way he could do a rematch so Shawn Michaels could turn face again if he wanted too. This is why Shawn Michaels overselled all match as he wanted to mock Hulk Hogan for going back on his word.

Penn

viper.10 wrote: »

Hulk Hogan knew straight from the start what he was doing in 2005 in regards to his matches with Shawn Michaels as the two of them and Vince McMahon had been talking about it since WrestleMania 21 and it had been agreed that Hulk Hogan would win the first match at SummerSlam as it is the second biggest PPV of the year and then Shawn Michaels would win the rematch at the next PPV so that if there were ever to be a third match it would be a rubber and would be a good draw.

Backstage on the day of the match Hulk Hogan said that his knee's were shot and that his hip was really bothering him so there was no way he could do a rematch so Shawn Michaels could turn face again if he wanted too. This is why Shawn Michaels overselled all match as he wanted to mock Hulk Hogan for going back on his word.

That match was one of the funniest ****ing things I've ever seen in wrestling

starviewadams

Aparrently John Morrison got his ass kicked by Hornswaggle,Linda McMahon and Mae Young.

MitchKoobski

This thread should help a bit: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68551267

viper.10

MitchKoobski wrote: »

This thread should help a bit: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=68551267

cheers, i saw this thread before but i wasnt sure how many of them were actually real or fake.

MitchKoobski

viper.10 wrote: »

cheers, i saw this thread before but i wasnt sure how many of them were actually real or fake.

Majority of the long listed post are fake, but the rest are true to the best of my knowledge.

ayatollah

MitchKoobski wrote: »

Majority of the long listed post are fake, but the rest are true to the best of my knowledge.

ah that clears things up nicely.

Cactus Colm

There's the Sid Justice / Arn Anderson incident:

Two months away from winning the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, after a show in Blackburn, Lancashire during a tour in the United Kingdom, Eudy was involved in a hotel bar scuffle with Arn Anderson. All the guys were sitting round a table and the discussion topic popped up about what was wrong with WCW and how could they go about improving the show. Sid being outspoken said maybe some of the old guys like Ric Flair should get out the way for the newer talent.

With that Arn Anderson threw beer in his face and both men stormed to their hotel rooms. Somewhere in the corridor Arn broke a bottle and encouraged Sid to come get some. Sid went to his room to find a weapon and could only find a chair, so came back and knocked on Arn's door calling for the fight. Arn opened it and lunged at him with some scissors cutting his stomach.Sid then brawled with Anderson inside the room and ended up stabbing Anderson over 20 times

Both were rushed to the hospital and survived the incident, Anderson suffered stab wounds to the face, chest, arms, stomach, and back. Sid was released from WCW after several wrestlers threatened to walk out because of him.

It had been planned to have Sid challenge then-World Heavyweight Champion Vader at that year's Starrcade, but Sid's departure removed him from this match and Ric Flair was elevated to be the challenger against Vader. Based on WCW Worldwide tapings that took place his departure, Sid would have defeated Vader and become the new champion. In one event never aired on television at these tapings, Sid placed the massive Vader in a torture rack.

The British Bulldogs and The Rougeau's had a bit of a feud, was trying to find info on it, as I can't think of the details off hand.

Kess73

Cactus Colm wrote: »

There's the Sid Justice / Arn Anderson incident:



The British Bulldogs and The Rougeau's had a bit of a feud, was trying to find info on it, as I can't think of the details off hand.

That was more bullying than a proper rl fued if I remember right, with the Dynamite Kid being the main culprit.

jmolloy

This was always my favourite

JBL and Joey Styles were involved in a fight/altercation in Iraq. JBL was busted under the eye. The only thing we know is that JBL was constantly hazing Styles throughout the week due to it being his first tour of Iraq. At one point, JBL spilled a drink on Styles on purpose. This is the type of stuff that many people hate but always deal with due to JBL's 'higher-up' status with WWE. After several days of constant bashing and shenanigans, JBL (who apparently had been drinking) did something that caused Styles to physically retaliate in defense. Several wrestlers stepped in between the two and broke it up. When JBL broke free, he went towards Styles, who "nailed him perfectly with a pretty good shot" according to one witness, laying JBL out, busting him open and blackening his eye. Mike Johnson reports that there were no further incidents between the two on the tour after that. The story was the topic of discussion at RAW yesterday and JBL was completely subdued at the TV tapings and that is not like him. JBL's antics had caused Smackdown talent Palmer Cannon to quit the company during a European tour as well as the 2005 ECW One Night Stand Blue Meanie beating during the PPV closing brawl. It was considered doubly embarrassing for JBL among the guys since he was so involved with setting up the Iraq tours.

Cactus Colm

Kess73 wrote: »

That was more bullying than a proper rl fued if I remember right, with the Dynamite Kid being the main culprit.

Well here it is, in both dynamite kids words, and Jacque Rougeau's (from http://www.onlineworldofwrestling.com/columns/misc/ralphaeichenlaub01.html):

Part I: The Dynamite Kid: The following commentary I am giving is summarized and paraphrased from The Dynamite Kid's book Pure Dynamite. According to Dynamite, he never liked the Rougeau brothers. He felt they were arrogant and ignorant. Before Summerslam 1988, it was decided that the Rougeaus would face the Bulldogs. The Bulldogs did not want to lose to this particular team, so it was decided that they would give the crowd a 20 minute match which would end when the time expired. Some time after this a rib was played on the Rougeaus by Curt Hennig that backfired on the Bulldogs since they were notorious for backstage pranks. Apparently it is an unwritten rule backstage that you should always have someone watch your clothes when you are not around. The Rougeaus had asked Hennig to watch their stuff while they wrestled and he decided to cut their clothes to ribbons. When the Rougeaus returned, he quick ran in the bathroom and came out looking at their stuff pretending to be just as surprised. The Rougeaus instantly blamed the Bulldogs and yelled at them and even threatened them and left their dressing room. Dynamite waited a few minutes (and he remarks he does not know why he did it, even today) and went over to the dressing room the Rougeaus were in. Jacques had his back to him and Dynamite gave him a "flat hander, straight across to the ear". Jacque was both yelling "what's going on", but trying to fight back, but Dynamite laid him out. Raymond tried to get in the middle saying, "Jacques, he's had enough of you", but Dynamite warned him to back off and said "this has nothing to do with you", but Raymond would not back down, so Dynamite knocked Raymond out too. He left the dressing room leaving both Rougeaus on the floor. Days went by and the Rougeaus had done nothing to make Dynamite think that they were out for revenge. He would see them and they would not say a word and just go about their business or bury themselves in a book; at least until a TV taping at Ft. Wayne.

Dynamite was just returning from lunch when he saw the Rougeaus talking with Pat Patterson and suddenly the thought came to him "they could not be planning something now, not in front of Pat". But Dynamite was wrong as when he passed them (as Pat started walking away) and Jacques hit him square in the mouth, knocking four teeth out. Patterson turned around and started yelling "stop, stop" as Jacques continued to hit him. Dynamite would not go down though. He then saw Raymond getting ready to blindside him as he thought to himself "it's over, I cannot handle two people", since he was not aware of how far they were going to take this. Luckily Bad News Brown showed up to break up the fight, and from Dynamite's stand-point, saved his life. The Rougeaus sprinted out of the building after this. Pat, trying to calm things down, gave Dynamite some money and told him to go to the hospital and get stitched up. He went and returned to the arena upon which he was told that Vince wanted to see him. Vince first remarked to Dynamite that he was in disbelief on how he did not go down. Dynamite came back saying how he would fix the Rougeaus, but Vince warned him against it because they "knew certain people" in Montreal that could make the situation a whole lot uglier. Dynamite left for a tour of Europe after the incident and discovered that when he arrived that Davey Boy had been in contact with their families already telling a different version of the story on how he "saved" Dynamite's life by fighting off the Rougeaus.

The story came to a close with Vince arranging a meeting between the two teams. Dynamite said he would leave the situation be, if Jacques paid for his teeth (even though the WWF had already paid). Jacques adamantly refused cursing up a storm, but Raymond stepped in as peacemaker and settled his brother down and said to Dynamite to get the bill from the dentist and give it to them and they would pay. According to Dynamite the Rougeaus paid and he had 1,800 extra dollars since the bill was already settled by the company. Shortly after the Bulldogs gave their notice for many personal reasons and the last match they had (as a team) was in the tag-team elimination match at Survivor Series 1988.

Part II: Jacques Rougeau: The information I am supplying here is summarized and paraphrased from a shoot interview with Jacques compliments of RF video. According to Jacques, at first he tremendously respected the Bulldogs for their talent, but disliked their bullying of other workers and pranks. Jacques even suspected that they were jealous of him because he was very goal-oriented and was on his way up. The incident began at a house show in Syracuse, NY. The Rougeau's saw that the roster said there would be two tag-team matches, the third and the eighth match. Now a ride from Syracuse to Montreal was very short, so they asked if they could wrestle third and leave to Montreal from there to have one more day with their families. Since their trip was so short, and the Bulldogs would not being able to go home anyway since they resided in Calgary, they saw no reason that it would bother the Bulldogs. The Bulldogs even said to them that it was ok, but the Rougeaus later had their suspicions that they were not ok with it. Jacques asked Curt Hennig to watch his bag when he wrestled. When Jacques returned he said Hennig just looked down at the bag and then looked at the into Jacques's eyes and repeated going back and forth Jacques checked his bag, but everything seemed in order. He went home later realized his work-out gear was missing, but that's all. After they had left though "the **** was stirring around the dressing room" with how the Rougeaus had rearranged their match time and various other things, but it all led to the confrontation in Miami. Jacques was in the dressing room playing cards when suddenly he was punched from behind. When he saw it was Dynamite he kept yelling "what's wrong", but Dynamite kept punching. Raymond (who was on crutches) tried to intervene but Dynamite punched and knocked him over too. Raymond remarked "Oh, you're going to beat up a guy on crutches", to which Dynamite replied "No, I'll wait for you to heal and then I'll beat you up".

The incident took place in Miami, where the Rougeaus father lived. Jacques did not talk to his brother or father for three days. When they were on a plane leaving Miami, an announcement came on the speaker saying "Ladies and gentlemen, we're thrilled to have wrestlers from the WWF on board this flight and we want to congratulate Jacques Rougeau on his recent boxing match". It was at this point that Jacques broke his silence to Raymond and said "Wednesday is when I'll get my revenge".

For days, Jacques and Raymond kept to themselves, trying to convince Dynamite that he had won over them. Dynamite would walk by them looking confident and strong and Jacques gave the impression that he wanted nothing to do with Dynamite and was in great fear of him; all to make their plan for revenge unexpected. During this time of silence, Jacques even noted that people were treating him with less respect, for not trying to get back at Dynamite. The primary person he mentions was his best friend Dino Bravo, who would simply nod when Jacques said greeted him. Meanwhile Raymond was prepping Jacques for the upcoming "attack", by having him practice jabbing all night in the hotel rooms. Jacques broke the silence with his father and called him the night before all of this went down, to which his father said, "get a roll of quarters and hold it in your punching hand, when you deck him".

This led to a TV taping at Ft. Wayne. Unbeknownst to either the Bulldogs or the Rougeaus was that Vince and the powers that be had a meeting that came to the decision that the next person who starts a fight is fired automatically. Vince had then approached the Rougeaus and said he wanted to see them later. Jacques knew his attack had to happen before this meeting took place. They waited by the corridor of the hallway as wrestlers were coming back from lunch. Things could not have been more perfect for the attack because all the people that Dynamite was usually with (Davey Boy, The Hart Foundation, Bad News Brown, and Don Muraco) had walked by already, so they knew Dynamite would be alone. Up until Pat Patterson came by and started talking to them, but this did not deter Jacques's determination to do what he wanted to do. As soon as Pat was walking away Dynamite walked by he started doing his cocky little strut by Jacques, to which Jacques simply said "Hi Dynamite" and punched him square in the mouth knocking four of his teeth out. Jacques kind of lost focus, because he was expecting Dynamite to go down from that punch and not expecting Dynamite fight back. Raymond was screaming for him to start jabbing to which Jacques did repeatedly. Finally Bad News Brown grabbed Jacques to break up the fight and Jacques offered no resistance to being pulled away.

After the incident, Pat Patterson had sent Davey Boy to take Dynamite to the hospital; Jacques looked to Raymond and said "Now we'll go see Vince". When they knocked on Vince's door, Vince opened the door, but could only see Raymond to which he said "I said later guys". Jacques said fine until Vince saw the blood all over him. Hogan was in the office with Vince and took one look at Jacques and said "I'm outta here brother". Even Randy Savage opened his dressing room door and saw Jacques's condition and just shut his door. Vince did make time to talk to them then, and despite the meeting with the higher ups he said that they were not fired. He said he was going to go get the Bulldogs, and told them to lock the door behind them. The Rougeaus' did more then that as the broke they legs off of chairs in the office in case the Bulldogs entered and a fight started again. Vince came back to the office by himself and said he was sending the Bulldogs to a tour of Europe. The Rougeaus would be going home to Montreal after some house shows in NY. Nobody talked to them the rest of that day and Vince even escorted them to their car.

Sometime later, Dino Bravo went up to Jacques and said "I have good news and bad news. The good news is the Bulldogs gave their notice. The bad news is the Bulldogs gave their notice". Jacques realized the situation he was in with how they are leaving, but now they have nothing to lose. Jacques was in fear of his life so he made some calls to "some people" in Montreal and pulled Dino Bravo aside one night "since he knew what type of person Dino Bravo was" and said "I call my family every night by midnight. If ever I don't call . . ." and then he showed Dino that he had Dynamite's home address and Dino nodded, understanding what he meant.
The final night for the Bulldogs was Survivor Series 1988, where both teams were involved in a tag-team elimination match. The Rougeaus were a little nervous since they did not know what was going on that night and nobody talked to them until about 90mins before the show. Vince asked both teams into his office and it turns out that Dynamite had a high spot he wanted to go over. He wanted to gorilla press Jacques and teeter backwards towards the ropes and as Raymond would come to attempt to make a save, Dynamite would toss Jacques onto Raymond. Jacques immediately said "That's a good idea", but in the back of his mind did not discount the fear of Dynamite dropping him on his head on the concrete on the outside. After the meeting Vince asked the Rougeaus if they would mind leaving as soon as they were eliminated from the match, not even stopping to take a shower. He did not want to take any chances since it was the Bulldogs' final night.

In the end Jacques still thinks of Dynamite as a "piece of ****", but says if he had the opportunity, he would have a beer with him and say "I'm sorry the whole thing happened between us". Finally he remarks that he never paid Dynamite any money for his teeth.

krudler

Barrington wrote: »

That match was one of the funniest ****ing things I've ever seen in wrestling

the clip on youtube of it with the theme from Benny Hill playing over it is comedy gold, you can tell Shawn is just having a hoot at Hogans expense for that whole match, bitter old fcuk deserved it too.

johnn

Barrington wrote: »

That match was one of the funniest ****ing things I've ever seen in wrestling

Hogan obviously didn't even realise that HBK was taking the piss as i remember he sat watching the match with one of Brooke's boyfriends in Hogan knows best telling him how "real" wrestling was.

What I don't understand is why Shawn then went to him afterwards and did that "I had to know" thing at the end if he didn't respect Hulky.

G-Money

I must dig out that match and watch it again. The penny never dropped for me at the time about HBK overselling.

I have a shoot interview with Angle where he said he got on well with Hogan but that they had a match one night and Hogan didn't show up until really late and Angle had to plan the match out before he showed. It seems that Hogan was a bit awkward and wouldn't do what Angle wanted so Angle was stiff with him in the ring during the match

JBL seems like a w***ker though. Would love to see him get a hiding.

viper.10

In late 1994, Scott Hall decided to ask Vince for a payrise and scheduled a meeting at WWE headquaters, when Hall goes there he realised that for some reason all photos in the corridors of him had been replaced (there were about 7 from the lobby to Vinces office) this was one of Vinces mind games he woud play to put talent in the frame of mind that they are easily replaceable, everyone of Halls pictures was now ones of the Undertaker.