Mayweather v Pacquiao - Will it ever happen?

splashthecash

I'm not big into boxing but even I get excited about the thought of this. It seems that each of them and their backroom teams\promoters are dancing around each other and wouldn't be able to agree that tomorrow is Friday as far as I can tell.

I wouldn't be able to pick who would come out of it as the winner though - what do you all think?

cowzerp

Mayweather to outclass Manny and make him look amateur.

Only way Manny wins this 1 is if he gets Mayweather severley dehydrated in the contract like he has his last few opponents..

Spazdarn

I think Floyd's defense is amazing, guy makes a living out of not getting hit but I think he's never dealt with anyone with Pacquiao's activity... Manny is going to hit him more than anyone else has before and I'd imagine he has the power to do some damage.

Intriguing fight, just don't ever see it happening.

moneyman

cowzerp wrote: »

Mayweather to outclass Manny and make him look amateur.

Only way Manny wins this 1 is if he gets Mayweather severley dehydrated in the contract like he has his last few opponents..

It would appear one of the mods has been sucked into the irrational world of fanboyism. :rolleyes:


If it ever happens (and I doubt it will due to you-know-who), I'd expect Manny to win on points. While it would be incredibly difficult to call for any objective fan, I just don't see how Mayweather can win enough rounds against a fighter like Pacquiao who is absolutely relentless and is infinitely faster/better than any fighter Floyd has fought. Sure Floyd can do his usual running and countering, and as good as he is defensively, Pacquiao WILL land some good shots. I'd expect him to land even more as the fight goes on. The only way Floyd wins is by using the jab (which Manny is susceptible to) and staying at a distance the whole fight, and I don't think he could when you consider the agression and ferocity that Pacquiao has.

I think you'd have to be an idiot to think any fighter could make Pacquiao look like an amateur. Just seems a strangely odd and biased thing to say.

Boooourns

Anyone think Floyd is leaving Manny have all of these big fights in the hope he starts to slow down? The Margarito fight was a complete war for Manny and would have taken something out of him, he was hurt badly during the fight. He's now fighting big fighters now on a constant basis and the style he fights means he takes punches off these bigger fighters, he's at his peak now but physically this can't go on, or can it?
It's just something i've been thinking about, Floyd is sitting back and keeping in great shape while Manny is involved in massive fights where he does take a good bit of damage (Cotto, Margarito, Mosley should land a good bit on him).
I just wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd take this fight at some point down the road.

cowzerp

moneyman wrote: »

It would appear one of the mods has been sucked into the irrational world of fanboyism. :rolleyes:


If it ever happens (and I doubt it will due to you-know-who), I'd expect Manny to win on points. While it would be incredibly difficult to call for any objective fan, I just don't see how Mayweather can win enough rounds against a fighter like Pacquiao who is absolutely relentless and is infinitely faster/better than any fighter Floyd has fought. Sure Floyd can do his usual running and countering, and as good as he is defensively, Pacquiao WILL land some good shots. I'd expect him to land even more as the fight goes on. The only way Floyd wins is by using the jab (which Manny is susceptible to) and staying at a distance the whole fight, and I don't think he could when you consider the agression and ferocity that Pacquiao has.

I think you'd have to be an idiot to think any fighter could make Pacquiao look like an amateur. Just seems a strangely odd and biased thing to say.

I'm no idiot and its far from inconceviable that Mayweather could make him look poor, thats what will happen if the fight happens, Manny in fairness has been pickingfights to suit him and weights to suit him etc so chances of him fighting Mayweather in a even fight are slim.

Fanboyism!! i like both fighters i simply just think Mayweather is a different class than Manny, Manny has lost 3 times, arguably more and been KO'D twice, so i cant say for a fact Mayweather is better but im pretty sure he is.

moneyman

Boooourns wrote: »

Anyone think Floyd is leaving Manny have all of these big fights in the hope he starts to slow down? The Margarito fight was a complete war for Manny and would have taken something out of him, he was hurt badly during the fight. He's now fighting big fighters now on a constant basis and the style he fights means he takes punches off these bigger fighters, he's at his peak now but physically this can't go on, or can it?
It's just something i've been thinking about, Floyd is sitting back and keeping in great shape while Manny is involved in massive fights where he does take a good bit of damage (Cotto, Margarito, Mosley should land a good bit on him).
I just wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd take this fight at some point down the road.

If Floyd is considering the fight at all (and I have my doubts), then this is exactly what he's doing. He's waiting to see a decline. There is no way he's getting in the ring with Pacquiao while he's destroying these bigger guys. Which is a shame because Mayweather has the ability to beat him, and if he did, that would be his legacy cemented forever. As it stands, people hold Pacquiao higher on their all-time list, and rightly so. Floyd needs to stop ducking him.

Is Mayweather keeping in great shape? While not fighting may keep him fresh, he also might get a little rusty. Perhaps the domestic fighting is keeping him in shape :pac:

moneyman

cowzerp wrote: »

I'm no idiot and its far from inconceviable that Mayweather could make him look poor, thats what will happen if the fight happens, Manny in fairness has been pickingfights to suit him and weights to suit him etc so chances of him fighting Mayweather in a even fight are slim.

Fanboyism!! i like both fighters i simply just think Mayweather is a different class than Manny, Manny has lost 3 times, arguably more and been KO'D twice, so i cant say for a fact Mayweather is better but im pretty sure he is.

Could see Mayweather winning the fight for sure, but to say he'd make Pacquiao look like an amateur, IMO, is a bit farfetched. I don't think that's what will happen but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't see how you can say with a straight face that Pacquiao has been picking fights and weights to suit him and then not hold Mayweather to the same standards. He has been far worse for it than Manny - this is fairly indisputable (just look at the Marquez fight).

Manny is a completely different fighter than he was in the past. Can you honestly say that Marquez would stand a chance if they fought again? I'd say Pacquio would KO him within 5, and that's being generous.

How do you envision Mayweather beating Pacquiao? Not saying he woulnd't/couldn't, just curious as to what tactics you think he could successfully employ.

walshb

Boooourns wrote: »

Anyone think Floyd is leaving Manny have all of these big fights in the hope he starts to slow down? The Margarito fight was a complete war for Manny and would have taken something out of him, he was hurt badly during the fight. He's now fighting big fighters now on a constant basis and the style he fights means he takes punches off these bigger fighters, he's at his peak now but physically this can't go on, or can it?
It's just something i've been thinking about, Floyd is sitting back and keeping in great shape while Manny is involved in massive fights where he does take a good bit of damage (Cotto, Margarito, Mosley should land a good bit on him).
I just wouldn't be surprised to see Floyd take this fight at some point down the road.

Yes, but Floyd now and from the past couple of years is not the same offensive minde fighter. He is not as busy, and spends a lot of time setting up and defending and countering. I don't see Manny being countered all night. Manny is a clever and resourceful fighter. Sure, he takes some shots, but he doesn't care. He can care, though. He is versatile and a brilliant all around tactician, as well as ferocious and aggressive.

Floyd from the Gatti fight would pose serious problems. Strong, fast, more aggressive, fresher and better.

I think this is an inriguing fight and anyone who thinks it's a blow out
for either man is off the mark IMO

cowzerp

moneyman wrote: »

Could see Mayweather winning the fight for sure, but to say he'd make Pacquiao look like an amateur, IMO, is a bit farfetched. I don't think that's what will happen but everyone is entitled to their opinion. I don't see how you can say with a straight face that Pacquiao has been picking fights and weights to suit him and then not hold Mayweather to the same standards. He has been far worse for it than Manny - this is fairly indisputable (just look at the Marquez fight). .

That was an exhibition and everyone knew it(tune up fight you could say)

Manny is fighting names and dehydrating them and picking catch weights etc for titles which is cheating as far as im concerned, De la Hoya had to weigh in on the day also so he could not go back to his real weight, so basically he was a dehydrated shell in there against Manny.

moneyman wrote: »

Manny is a completely different fighter than he was in the past. Can you honestly say that Marquez would stand a chance if they fought again? I'd say Pacquio would KO him within 5, and that's being generous. .

Marquez is smaller and washed up, if they where same weight and he was 2 years younger then it would be a good fight
.

moneyman wrote: »

How do you envision Mayweather beating Pacquiao? Not saying he woulnd't/couldn't, just curious as to what tactics you think he could successfully employ.

He'd do it just like Sugar ray did to Duran in the 2nd fight.
He'll hit and move and not let Manny in range, i also see him putting pressure on for sections of each round too..

If Manny can go more than 6 rounds of that i guarantee his head will be like a pulp!

moneyman

cowzerp wrote: »

That was an exhibition and everyone knew it(tune up fight you could say)

Manny is fighting names and dehydrating them and picking catch weights etc for titles which is cheating as far as im concerned, De la Hoya had to weigh in on the day also so he could not go back to his real weight, so basically he was a dehydrated shell in there against Manny.




Marquez is smaller and washed up, if they where same weight and he was 2 years younger then it would be a good fight
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He'd do it just like Sugar ray did to Duran in the 2nd fight.
He'll hit and move and not let Manny in range, i also see him putting pressure on for sections of each round too..

If Manny can go more than 6 rounds of that i guarantee his head will be like a pulp!

I'm not even going to reply to your first point as it's ridiculous.

As for your part about how Mayweather would win, well it just doesn't have a base in reality does it? When has Mayweather ever made anyones face look like pulp? He's not a big puncher, and he doesn't throw in great volume. It's all very idealistic, but just not going to happen that way. Manny is far too quick to be kept out of range all night.

cowzerp

moneyman wrote: »

When has Mayweather ever made anyones face look like pulp? He's not a big puncher, and he doesn't throw in great volume. It's all very idealistic, but just not going to happen that way. Manny is far too quick to be kept out of range all night.

Mayweather will leave his face like pulp because Manny will be on him and have to get peppered to get any shots off-Mayweather hits harder than you think and in this fight volume will be key to Manny looking like "pizza face" stolen from Klitschko!


Mayweather is at least as quick as Manny and more skillfull and also has a far superior defense.

PS, as seen as you think my 1st point was laughable then i feel you may be the fan boy here, as a Boxing fan and 1 of Mannys fans ican even see that the last few fights have been against dehydrated opposition at catch weights!!

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

Mayweather is at least as quick as Manny and more skillfull and also has a far superior defense.
QUOTE]

More skillful? Very subjective term here for these two. Of course Floyd's D is better. He is a defensive minded fighter. Manny is a ridiculoulsy skillful offensive minded fighter. They both have great skill sets; I don't see how one can say that either is as skillful.

To me both possess super balance and footwork. That is the key and basis for boxing. After this, it's an interpretation as to skill. Was Ali more skilled than Tyson? Both IMO were skilled in their unique way

moneyman

cowzerp wrote: »

Mayweather will leave his face like pulp because Manny will be on him and have to get peppered to get any shots off-Mayweather hits harder than you think and in this fight volume will be key to Manny looking like "pizza face" stolen from Klitschko!


Mayweather is at least as quick as Manny and more skillfull and also has a far superior defense.

PS, as seen as you think my 1st point was laughable then i feel you may be the fan boy here, as a Boxing fan and 1 of Mannys fans ican even see that the last few fights have been against dehydrated opposition at catch weights!!

Again, when has Mayweather ever left someones face looking like pulp? I think we'd both agree that fighters like Hatton etc. are far more open than Pacquiao, and amazingly, Hatton's face did not resemble a pizza. Funny how that works.

Mayweather was as quick as Manny, not sure about now. Pacquiao hasn't slowed down at all. Apart from that, I don't believe Floyd's hands are as quick as Manny's. His reflexes are/were, but the speed of his punches are not, and certainly are not nearly as powerful. Floyd does not move around the ring as well as he used to (unfortunately).

As for your last point, I think everyone here can see which one of us is being objective.

edit: forgot to address the skill point, which walsb alluded to. Mayweather is more skilled defensively (without a doubt), and Manny is more skilled offensively (without a doubt). The thing is, I think Pacquiao's defense (which consists mainly of movement and footwork) trumps Mayweather's offense (counter punching). At least it will look that way when Pacquiao is constantly coming forward ond overwhelming Mayweather.

cowzerp

walshb wrote: »

cowzerp wrote: »

Mayweather is at least as quick as Manny and more skillfull and also has a far superior defense.
QUOTE]

More skillful? Very subjective term here for these two. Of course Floyd's D is better. He is a defensive minded fighter. Manny is a ridiculoulsy skillful offensive minded fighter. They both have great skill sets; I don't see how one can say that either is as skillful.

To me both possess super balance and footwork. That is the key and basis for boxing. Aftre this, it's an interpretation as to skill. Was Ali more skilled than Tyson? Both IMO were skilled in their unique way

Ali was more skilled than Tyson, Tyson was a wrecking ball at peak, with skills i know but mainly brute force and aggression.

Mayweather has great attacking skills asell as his defensive game, Manny is great going forward but defensively average.

So over all PBF is more skillfull in my opinion

walshb

moneyman wrote: »

Again, when has Mayweather ever left someones face looking like pulp?

Wow, you need to see Gatti-Mayweather.:)

moneyman

walshb wrote: »

Wow, you need to see Gatti-Mayweather.:)

Slipped my mind, but I don't think he'd be able to do that again at this point.

It's a real shame this will probably never happen. Would be the biggest fight in years, and I can only imagine the build up. It would be very hard to call. Boxing loses if this doesn't go ahead.

walshb

moneyman wrote: »

Slipped my mind, but I don't think he'd be able to do that again at this point.

It's a real shame this will probably never happen. Would be the biggest fight in years, and I can only imagine the build up. It would be very hard to call. Boxing loses if this doesn't go ahead.

And that is my point. Floyd is NOT that fighter now. He is past his best days.
He relies more now on cunning, conservation and experience. Still very good, just not as offensively busy. That could still beat Manny, but I reckon Manny can adapt as well as Floyd and present serious offensive threats.

This is such an intriguing fight style wise. JMM didn't get whupped or badly hurt, (CLEAR WIN FOR FLOYD) and that was almost two years ago. Manny will be a far more threatening foe than JMM.

Spazdarn

walshb wrote: »

Wow, you need to see Gatti-Mayweather.:)

Gatti's face always looked bust though,I can always remember Manny Stewart talking about them hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigh cheekbones.

Mosley is past it and if he had enough in the tank to pressure Mayweather for 2 or 3 more rounds he could have easily lost that fight. I know a lot of that is down to Mayweather's defense but you can get to him.

You have to take into account Mayweather didn't even try to make the weigh for the JMM fight either... He came in physically stronger along with possibly the better boxing skills

splashthecash

The world (especially the US) are crying out for a big marquee boxing match of two excellent fighters. We don't seem to get these fights too often anymore...the money and promotion involved would be mind blowing!

walshb

splashthecash wrote: »

The world (especially the US) are crying out for a big marquee boxing match of two excellent fighters. We don't seem to get these fights too often anymore...the money and promotion involved would be mind blowing!

So true. And, the longer time goes on the less and less the appeal will be.
Really, this fight should have happened in 2010. Both men are depleting.
I would love to see it, but not as much as I would have loved to see it early last year,
or more so in 2009.

gene_tunney

Pacquaio

Boooourns

Haha that's excellent.

12gauge dave

i start drooling thinking about this one:D

ive been wanting it bad for last two years but have nearly given up hope now:(

summer 2012 is our last hope really it wont happen in 2013 or after i feel!

both guys are aproaching retirement but neither seem past it lets be fair! they both have another year or two at this level at minimum! mayweather never breaks a sweat unbelievable fitness as well as manny they are still in top shape and i believe both as fast as they ever were in my opinion!

who would win???

i honestly dont know??

i can see it going a choice of three ways

1.manny bein too much offensively for mayweather and picking him off like he did to margarito and last few oponnents

2. mayweather being too slick as usual and making manny miss and countering like he does best!

3.or an all out brawl hapening when mayweather realises after 3 rounds that hes not quick enough to dodge mannys punches and is gonna have to stand toe to toe with manny and exchange:D which puts advantage to manny i think!

my personal opinion is that mayweather will be too slick as usual and make manny another victim but its just too hard to call could go either way

sxt

12gauge dave wrote: »

my personal opinion is that mayweather will be too slick as usual and make manny another victim but its just too hard to call could go either way

If Mayweather genuinely thought that, he would not have run scared and ducked the fight repeatedly...

CorkMan

TBH I think Pacquiao getting 15 votes to win while Money getting 5 is a bit too much of a gap. Let's not forget how good Mayweather is.

Don't get me wrong, I think Pacquiao will take it in the end, but not by an awful lot. There won't be anything close to his 2nd round KO of Ricky Hatton, or his demolishment of Cotto. It will be very tight knit.

Spazdarn

Mayweather could be quite possibly too slick, but Manny will throw upward of 800-1000 punches and he is going to hit him... as far as power goes I'd be more worried of Floyd getting dropped than Manny

walshb

sxt wrote: »

If Mayweather genuinely thought that, he would not have run scared and ducked the fight repeatedly...

I think so too. I don't think Mayweather is all that confident of beating Manny. The drugs thing is sorta like his get out of jail card. If he really thought he could win I feel he'd jump in there and want to show the world.

Spazdarn

I think Mayweather could beat him, I'm just not sure a 50-50 fight is the kind of risk he takes.

walshb

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I think Mayweather could beat him, I'm just not sure a 50-50 fight is the kind of risk he takes.

If there is any fighter at 147 that is capable it is Floyd. I would lean towards Pacman by 51-49. It really is a pick em IMO. I think it makes for a great fight, one where both will need to be on top form. I just feel that Floyd is the one who is more past his best, staler etc. I think he will struggle with Manny's work rate, angles and power. Manny ain't a dumb figher. He won't be suckered into getting countered all night. I think soem assuem that Manny has a
poor defence and is easily hit. But, Manny does get hit easy when he is confident that his offense is superior. He won't
go gung ho if he finds that he is getting tagged without landing more of his own.

coronaextra

It gets me so angry opening up these threads! I am so disappointed every time I think of what we have missed! Can you just imagine the build up to this fight . . .LADIES AND GENTLEMEN . . . . .

Ahhhhh Unfortunately Guys, as said before its too late, Mayweather is over the hill at this stage!

Spazdarn

He pains me to see Mayweather talking **** about Pacquiao but not having the balls to actually fight... he's had an interview recently slating Manny, Mosley and making contradicting statements about Manny taking the test...

This fight would define our generation I reckon... and it'll never happen

Jayob10

the bottom line is Floyd will only take a fight he is certain of winning. And he has been confident about beating some really good fighters.

This fight will NOT happen if theres a doubt in his head about the outcome. And IMO Floyd is probably unsure of how he would fare. Id say in his own warped ways he actually does believe Manny is on something. And he takes comfort in his own warped ways that the only reason Pacquiao is so good is because he is a cheat. Its how Floyd can sleep at night. And don't forget, he has an entourage of cronies who probably tell him this every day to ram it home to him.

Floyd at this stage will only deteriorate in terms of speed. He probably knows he is more skilled, but Manny is just too busy. He will miss Floyd when he comes forward alot, and he will eat counters by PBF but Manny would just be incessant.

If I was to call it, I would be confident that this fight will NEVER take place.

UNLESS, Manny fights for peanuts (which Arum would not allow), He is sure Manny is on the wane (which he is not) or Floyd goes bankrupt. However if the latter happened, I still reckon we would see Mayweather take on some beatable guys, and make serious money off the back of it so theres no need for Manny.

CorkMan

I think a part of Mayweather taking so long is if he gets beat, later on he will say "Pacquiao beat a past it Mayweather".

PrettyBoy

CorkMan wrote: »

I think a part of Mayweather taking so long is if he gets beat, later on he will say "Pacquiao beat a past it Mayweather".

Have to laugh at this thread, it would be the toughest fight of PBF's career but he would beat Pac. If the fight ever happens I'm putting my house on it. Manny is exceptional, but Floyd is better.

Spazdarn

You could well be right, it's just Floyd will never give us to the chance to see it

moneyman

PrettyBoy wrote: »

Have to laugh at this thread, it would be the toughest fight of PBF's career but he would beat Pac. If the fight ever happens I'm putting my house on it. Manny is exceptional, but Floyd is better.

Can't fault you for favouring Mayweather (although your username would suggest you're quite biased), but I wouldn't go putting your house on it (I know you didn't mean it in a literal sense). Far too risky. You can't count Pacquiao out of any fight. Especially if you think it will be Floyd's toughest since, in many people's view, he's already lost to de la Hoya.

richierichballs

Anyone who thinks Manny beats Floyd knows nothing about boxing,
Manny has virtually no defence and won't fight counterpunchers.

Same clowns on here who think Manny beats Floyd are the same people who picked Casey to beat Rigondeaux. Embarassing.

gene_tunney

richierichballs wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Manny beats Floyd knows nothing about boxing,
Manny has virtually no defence and won't fight counterpunchers.

Same clowns on here who think Manny beats Floyd are the same people who picked Casey to beat Rigondeaux. Embarassing.

You don't know **** about boxing.

gene_tunney

I give Pacquaio about a 55% chance of winning.

richierichballs

gene_tunney wrote: »

You don't know **** about boxing.

Based on what? The fact that I don't let my feelings overcome logic?
I want Manny to beat Mayweather, Mayweather is a prick.

But the fact is he can't and he won't, it's an easy fight for him,
Argue all you want as to why the fight isn't happening but if it did he would school him.

Styles make fights, and Mayweathers style would be a stylistic nightmare for Pacquiao.
He would be totally exposed, just like he was against the last counter puncher he fought Juan Manuel Marquez.
I just can't logically understand how people who understand the sport and have watched both fighters throughout there careers can understand how Manny beats Floyd?

Spazdarn

There are plenty of reasons to favour Manny over Floyd.

Manny has been active, Floyd hasn't been.
People question Manny's choice of opponents, but Floyd's record of cherry picking gets equally as much abuse.
Stylistically Floyd's may have got one up on Manny, but while Floyd will hit Manny, it's very unlikely it'll faze him, Manny will continue to come forward, and will hit the target with more frequency than anyone else has done previously.
Manny has improved quite a lot since the JMM fights, I'd imagine even though JMM is still pretty deadly, a rematch wouldn't be as close as the previous bouts.
Floyd's last few bouts have been pretty easy going, he hasn't been in a war for quite some time.

I could give you a list of reasons to suggest Floyd should win the fight, but the above is just to prove or at least state it is not laughable to think Manny would win the fight.

moneyman

richierichballs wrote: »

Based on what? The fact that I don't let my feelings overcome logic?

That's exactly what you do.

I want Manny to beat Mayweather, Mayweather is a prick.

No you don't, you've been a Floyd fanboy for a long time (and I'm not saying that simply because you think Floyd will win - which is a reasonable POV). Pretending you want Pacquiao to win does NOT validate your opinion (ie. that Pacquiao doesn't have a chance - which is ridiculous ). Not one person in this forum that knows your agenda believes you would want Manny to win. Give it up, you're not fooling anyone.

But the fact is he can't and he won't, it's an easy fight for him,
Argue all you want as to why the fight isn't happening but if it did he would school him.

Easy fight my bollox. This is where your bias is incredibly stupid. Fact is this would be Mayweather's most difficult task so far, and he has been in a couple close ones (he arguably lost to DLH). I think anyone who thinks Pacquiao would get schooled is either incredibly biased or simply doesn't know what they're talking about.

Styles make fights, and Mayweathers style would be a stylistic nightmare for Pacquiao.

Mayweather sure is difficult for any boxer, but when talking about they match up stylistically, I'd say Pacquiao is a nightmare for Mayweather. Throws extremely fast, powerful combinations from a number of angles. Good chin, extremely fit, relentless.

He would be totally exposed, just like he was against the last counter puncher he fought Juan Manuel Marquez.

He is easily hit with the jab. This would be Floyd's way to win. But he's not easily hurt, and he rarely gets hit anymore with big shots. His defense isn't that bad. He did not lose to Marquez. Again, I don't think any objective boxing fan genuinely believes Marquez has a case.

I just can't logically understand how people who understand the sport and have watched both fighters throughout there careers can understand how Manny beats Floyd?

You could, but you've been completely taken in by Floyd's talk. You only see what you want to see. You're beyond help, and even if they did meet and Manny KO'd PBF in one round, you'd be making excuses.

cowzerp

richierichballs wrote: »

Anyone who thinks Manny beats Floyd knows nothing about boxing,
Manny has virtually no defence and won't fight counterpunchers.

While i agree with your opinion on who would win and why i still see it as a hard to call fight.

Picking Manny is not crazy but i do think its based on outta sight outta mind a bit-Mayweathers style would be a night mare for Manny, Even against Clottey i dont think he land a head shot, and in fairness when clottey threw he landed..

Its also worth noting that 4 of his last 8 have gone the distance and 1 ko was in the 12th and i dont see him beating Mayweather over 12 rounds..

As a betting man i wont bet, but as putting my opinion on the line i will say straight out Mayweather would/will win this, if manny beats Mosley.

Spazdarn

The Clottey fight isn't really a good example of a boxing contest, it was essentially Clottey standing there, getting battered.

cowzerp

ToiletFusion wrote: »

The Clottey fight isn't really a good example of a boxing contest, it was essentially Clottey standing there, getting battered.

Yeah and Manny got busted up and Clottey was fune, thats the point..

Against a barely there opponent he got beat up a good bit..

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

Yeah and Manny got busted up and Clottey was fune, thats the point..

Against a barely there opponent he got beat up a good bit..

C'mon, he took a few shots that happened to mark his face....
Manny's face marks in most of his fights, including the dominant wins.
Look at his face after Margarito.

Manny completely dominated a fighter who was in to spoil and survive...

It was a landslide win. Would Floyd have landed on Clottey IF Clottey
chose that kinda' fight? No way would he have.

BTW, just because Clottey wasn't badly marked (on the face) doesn't mean
he was fine.

I wonder how his body felt after the fight. Manny hit him with wicked shots
throughout, ones that definitely had him wincing.

cowzerp

Bren facts are he barely landed a head shot in the fight and got hit many times cleanly himself, i know he well won but against Mayweather who has better defense and countering and would be there to win it does not bode well for Manny style wise.

Thats my point and people hiding or forgetting that are either fanboys or deluded..

walshb

cowzerp wrote: »

Bren facts are he barely landed a head shot in the fight and got hit many times cleanly himself, i know he well won but against Mayweather who has better defense and countering and would be there to win it does not bode well for Manny style wise.

Thats my point and people hiding or forgetting that are either fanboys or deluded..

Hey, like I said, if any man could solve and beat Manny it is Floyd. I just lean towards Manny at this stage. Take Floyd from the best 140 days and I would probably lean with him. Either way, what a clash of styles. Floyd would be made work and THINK harder than he ever has.

Spazdarn

cowzerp wrote: »

Bren facts are he barely landed a head shot in the fight and got hit many times cleanly himself, i know he well won but against Mayweather who has better defense and countering and would be there to win it does not bode well for Manny style wise.

Thats my point and people hiding or forgetting that are either fanboys or deluded..

Mayweather is going to throw a punch every once in a while, that'll leave him open to a punch. Clottey just stood there covering his head, of course he's not going to get hit in the head if he's covered his head up for the whole fight. His body got plenty of abuse...

moneyman

According to Bob Arum, the last time there were negotiations for the fight, the blood tests weren't an issue as Manny's camp gave in. It was Floyd demanding $100 million for the fight. Shock horror!

http://www.boxingscene.com/arum-manny-ready-tests-floyd-wanted-100-million--38914