IRA Statement - Why wasn't he arrested on the spot?

Lord Trollington

As the title suggests.

Why wasn't the IRA man reading out the statement not just arrrested on the spot for being a member of an illegal organisation?

If I made threats against a member of the public, i'd be arrested, what is the difference?

orourkeda

Somehow I dont think they made their statement in a police station or within easy reach of the relevant law enforcement officers

hondasam

what man and what statement ?

FatherLen

hondasam wrote: »

what man and what statement ?

the one where he was like all "i dont like the queen" and stuff...

orourkeda

hondasam wrote: »

what man and what statement ?

your man in the graveyard in Derry last night. The Real IRA issued a statement opposing the queens visit

_feedback_

hondasam wrote: »

what man and what statement ?

Fat man. Bullshít statement.

Lord Trollington

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/Video-Real-IRA-Threatens-Police-Killings-Three-Weeks-After-Ronan-Kerr-Died-In-Blast/Article/201104415978989?lpos=UK_News_Third_UK_News_Article_Teaser_Region__3&lid=ARTICLE_15978989_Video%3A_Real_IRA_Threatens_Police_Killings_Three_Weeks_After_Ronan_Kerr_Died_In_Blast

Duggy747

People will do anything for YouTube hits on their channels nowadays...

hidinginthebush

Why couldn't he hold the note himself?

FUNKY LOVER

Oh ffs what would it achieve?incite more hatred.exactly what these groups want.

rasper

and there I was thinking it was Captain Eoghan O'Sullivan outside the GPO yesterday, you were on about

Lord Trollington

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

Oh ffs what would it achieve?incite more hatred.exactly what these groups want.

I realise that. However the 7 men who were there in full military gear are part of an organisation who a few weeks ago murdered a PSNI officer, threaten to kill more and threaten to "disrupt" the queens visit.

TV stations shouldn't have even given them the light of day for the statement.

It wasn't me!

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

Oh ffs what would it achieve?incite more hatred.exactly what these groups want.

I sincerely doubt the vast majority of the public is going to be deeply upset at members of the RIRA being arrested for strutting about publicly proclaiming their membership.

LondonIrish90

Not the most naturally gifter orator.

Surely if there is a police helicopter hovering overhead it would have at least tracked one of them back to their home/safehouse after the event ended

Blazer

[QUOTE=orourkeda;71886219Real IRA [/QUOTE]

Let's not call them that...how about fat good for nothing ignorant fúckers who haven't a braincell in their head.

mikemac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gto6QnP0vBo

There you go

KeithAFC

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

Oh ffs what would it achieve?incite more hatred.exactly what these groups want.

What on earth sort of statement is that? I mean really. Only on this island would we accept this. The guy was talking about shooting more people basically and causing havoc and basically made a threat to the Queen in a weird way.

So why wasn't there a squad of armed police officers coming and swooping the lot of them in masks and take them in and hold onto them. It makes perfect sense.

bullpost

I'd say now that Martin and Gerry are onside that identifying these people would be a piece of cake. Vast majority of republicans are now signed up for peace.

LondonIrish90 wrote: »

Not the most naturally gifter orator.

Surely if there is a police helicopter hovering overhead it would have at least tracked one of them back to their home/safehouse after the event ended

RichieC

Lets do what the yanks done, declare them enemy combatants.. strip their rights, take their children and execute any of them we find.

zero tolerance.

f*ck... bring the special forces in to deal with them.

mikemac

Ah the ubiquitous Celtic jersey

mgmt

feelingstressed wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gto6QnP0vBo

There you go

I wonder if the battleaxe holding up the speech is worried about losing her job unemployment benefit.

Lord Trollington

KeithAFC wrote: »

What on earth sort of statement is that? I mean really. Only on this island would we accept this. The guy was talking about shooting more people basically and causing havoc and basically made a threat to the Queen in a weird way.

So why wasn't there a squad of armed police officers coming and swooping the lot of them in masks and take them in and hold onto them. It makes perfect sense.

I'd tend to agree with you being honest. Which i'm suprised at because generally i dont agree with a lot of your posts.

It would be kind of like 7 masked muslim fundamentalists standing in a graveyard in Washington making a statement about making more suicide bombings and walking out of the same graveyard unharmed.

Blazer

in fairness the Brits allow the muslims to preach the same shíte on their streets so we're not unique in that regards.

FUNKY LOVER

KeithAFC wrote: »

What on earth sort of statement is that? I mean really. Only on this island would we accept this. The guy was talking about shooting more people basically and causing havoc and basically made a threat to the Queen in a weird way.

So why wasn't there a squad of armed police officers coming and swooping the lot of them in masks and take them in and hold onto them. It makes perfect sense.

It would play into their hands.why can't people realise this?they would claim harassment etc.

KeithAFC

Sc@recrow wrote: »

in fairness the Brits allow the muslims to preach the same shíte on their streets so we're not unique in that regards.

Yet, difference is, this group has just killed a police officer lately and here they are, infront of everyone saying they will do it again and to the Queen. How can the police not go in and pick this lot up? They surely knew this was happening? Its a disgrace and frankly, this group will strike again with this sort of attitude.

KeithAFC

FUNKY LOVER wrote: »

It would play into their hands.why can't people realise this?they would claim harassment etc.

Harassment? What on earth. They are a group with bombs and guns and planning to kill more police officers and basically anyone who doesn't stand by them. What is possibly harassment about that?

FUNKY LOVER

Z

KeithAFC wrote: »

Yet, difference is, this group has just killed a police officer lately and here they are, infront of everyone saying they will do it again and to the Queen. How can the police not go in and pick this lot up? They surely knew this was happening? Its a disgrace and frankly, this group will strike again with this sort of attitude.

well you tell us?afterall you claimed a few weeks back the psni is a top class police force.

DoubleBogey

It's good for people to see how retarded these people are. As much as I'd love to see a sniper bullet to his head, the UK (and it is the uk as far as laws are concerned) still has freedom of speech.

sollar

whycliff wrote: »

It would be kind of like 7 masked muslim fundamentalists standing in a graveyard in Washington making a statement about making more suicide bombings and walking out of the same graveyard unharmed.

Thats a good point, they would be in a cage in guantanamo before nightfall.

Dyr

at least 50% of this lot are probably touts anyway, why would the cops arrest them? :pac:

kowloon

Judging from the trouble he has reading the statement I think he might not be qualified to be tried as an adult anyway.
The cholesterol will get him before long.

getz

KeithAFC wrote: »

Yet, difference is, this group has just killed a police officer lately and here they are, infront of everyone saying they will do it again and to the Queen. How can the police not go in and pick this lot up? They surely knew this was happening? Its a disgrace and frankly, this group will strike again with this sort of attitude.

i can assure you keith every one of them has been identified by the security service,it may even be part of a long term plan to let people see their true colours.best the enemy you know

Gunsfortoys

They have no support whatsoever but the threat is quite alarming.

Hopefully the security services are on top of this.

Lord Trollington

They have no support whatsoever, your right.

But that just means that they will turn on people who they once thought they were their own.

I see them mention the GAA and Catholic church in that it wont prevent them targeting anyone.

Wibbs

KeithAFC wrote: »

Yet, difference is, this group has just killed a police officer lately and here they are, infront of everyone saying they will do it again and to the Queen. How can the police not go in and pick this lot up? They surely knew this was happening? Its a disgrace and frankly, this group will strike again with this sort of attitude.

Yep it's a bit mad alright. I only hope getz' angle is correct.

whycliff wrote:

They have no support whatsoever, your right.

They don't need much. Blind eyes turned is often enough. It doesn't need many of these people either. Look at the nuttier Muslim element. 99.9999% of Muslims are not like this, but a good proportion have a sneaking admiration and more will turn a blind eye. The idea that one man or a small group can change things for the better is a common one, but we forget the other side of that coin at our peril.

But that just means that they will turn on people who they once thought they were their own.

I see them mention the GAA and Catholic church in that it wont prevent them targeting anyone.

And more blind eyes through fear. It's long since gone being about the nationalist community, ditto for the loyalist community. Now it's about power and mafia type revenue in working class communities. Watch it get worse as the economic situation does. On both sides, you'll have rabble rousers blaming the "other" for people being on the dole/in hardship. A certain Austrian corporal used this to great effect. Same old same old and the working classes will be the ones bearing the brunt as usual. For me it's no coincidence that the trajectory of the troubles followed pretty closely the economics of the region. Well off people trading with each other don't want to kill each other.

KeithAFC

I was saying this last night with my brother that if it was me, i would go and really improve the nationalist areas, housing and do the places up to make them look brilliant and improve their life style etc. Get people away from having the potential of joining the RIRA.

IamtheWalrus

My debugger is at line 1916.

Just sayin'.

ejmaztec

We should organise charity collections so that we can send these people on a fun-packed trip to Mosney-Guantanamo.

getz

KeithAFC wrote: »

I was saying this last night with my brother that if it was me, i would go and really improve the nationalist areas, housing and do the places up to make them look brilliant and improve their life style etc. Get people away from having the potential of joining the RIRA.

keith but would you set up a business in a nationalist area that may be burned to the ground or bombed[remember most of the bombs are planted in those areas] during the next riot by dissidents?, you could not even afford the insurance ,

Wibbs

KeithAFC wrote: »

I was saying this last night with my brother that if it was me, i would go and really improve the nationalist areas, housing and do the places up to make them look brilliant and improve their life style etc. Get people away from having the potential of joining the RIRA.

Ditto with loyalist areas. Raise everyone up and it does reduce tensions. Hell this all kicked off because of the very real economic and political poverty in the nationalist areas. The religious aspect is almost entirely historical. Though that said if I was a loyalist protestant up north in the 50/60/70's (even 80's)no way in hell would I want to join the south. It was about the most catholic state in europe and a rotten one to boot. No divorce contraception etc.

Duck's hoop

I happened to be on the city walls while that was going on. There were a couple of PSNI watching and of course the chopper. I wasn't aware of what was happening but looking back I'm pretty sure any attempt to arrest those guys would have been high risk, probably futile and counterproductive. I reckon they would have scarpered long before the law got near, leaving the police with a messy and confrontational crowd control situation.

I think the PSNI are clever enough to pick their battles.

getz

this group has not done itself any favours,i would think that some irish citizens who may have had some sort of sympathy for them ,will now see them in their true colours

bigneacy

Sc@recrow wrote: »

Let's not call them that...how about fat good for nothing ignorant fúckers who haven't a braincell in their head.

Not as catchy FGFNIFWHABITH "fugfnivwabitth"

Forest Master

LOL @ his gimp mask. And he can't hold the paper himself because he's holding his boyfriends head down while getting his balls licked.
Each to their own...

mike65

Was it very chilly in Stroke City yesterday?

SEPT 23 1989

He should have finished off with a song

sensibleken

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He should have finished off with a song

yeah

Don't stop, never give up by steps

Duck's hoop

mike65 wrote: »

Was it very chilly in Stroke City yesterday?

In the breeze it wasn't so warm.

Not balaclava weather either though.

landsleaving

Forest Master wrote: »

LOL @ his gimp mask. And he can't hold the paper himself because he's holding his boyfriends head down while getting his balls licked.
Each to their own...

That's kind of offensive to the gay community, I'm sure they don't want this tub of lard associated with them any more than the rest of humanity

landsleaving

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

He should have finished off with a song

'God Save The Queen' would have been good.

KeithAFC

Wibbs wrote: »

Ditto with loyalist areas. Raise everyone up and it does reduce tensions. Hell this all kicked off because of the very real economic and political poverty in the nationalist areas. The religious aspect is almost entirely historical. Though that said if I was a loyalist protestant up north in the 50/60/70's (even 80's)no way in hell would I want to join the south. It was about the most catholic state in europe and a rotten one to boot. No divorce contraception etc.

I'v had people on here say it wasn't a state with a big religious influence in it at all.