Ballyvoile bridge

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Does anyone know where Ballyvoile bridge is in relation to Stradbally or Kilmacthomas

STIG83

Its in Stradbally, you would see it on the coast road between Stradbally and Dungarvan, you want to go see it OP?

William Powell

Which Ballyvoile Bridge?

There are 3

The old railway bridge, the main road bridge and the bridge in the cove.

Just come out (or into) Dungarvan on the coast road and about 4 mile out you hit a really sharp right hand bend and then the cove bridge is in the valley below you the main road bridge is the next bridge you will go over (half a mile on) and when you go over the main road bridge you should see the old railway bridge up the vally to the North.

Might be be Ballyvoyle depending on which map your looking at, most Sat Navs have Ballyvoile Cove or Ballyvoile Cross mapped.

http://www.ballyvoyle.net/

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STIG83 wrote: »

Its in Stradbally, you would see it on the coast road between Stradbally and Dungarvan,

is thatb thebopposite direction to leaving stradbally heading to Bunmahon

you want to go see it OP?

yes, heard Larry Griffin is buried there

STIG83

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is thatb thebopposite direction to leaving stradbally heading to Bunmahon

yes, heard Larry Griffin is buried there

Thats a bit of new evidence on the case.

byhookorbycrook

Unlikely Larry Griffin was buried at Ballyvoile.

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William Powell wrote: »

Which Ballyvoile Bridge?

the one it is said Larry Griffin is buried under

STIG83

Resend wrote: »

the one it is said Larry Griffin is buried under

You think you are gonna find the remains of him?

byhookorbycrook

STIG83 wrote: »

Thats a bit of new evidence on the case.

New book, rehashing all the old rumours. No actual new facts.

STIG83

Shur they said he was thrown down in one of the mine shafts in Bonmahon too.

byhookorbycrook

Bonmahon unlikely either,red herring.

William Powell

This is the road bridge from down in the valley....



And this is the railway bridge further up the valley...

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@ William Powell. What road out of stradbally? thanks

William Powell

R675

byhookorbycrook

Afaik it's the bridge down by the little cove that is mentioned in the book.

http://www.waterfordcountyimages.org/exhibit/web/DisplayImage/K0v4IEEjAUAmg/1/Ballyvoile_Bridge.html;jsessionid=9655937113A8987D453BFE4DE44DA0FE

Old picture but gives you idea of location.

STIG83

Did anyone read the book? i was gonna pick it up.

William Powell

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Afaik it's the bridge down by the little cove that is mentioned in the book.

Be difficult to burry anyone there as your choice is in the stones on the beach or in the river.

William Powell

STIG83 wrote: »

Did anyone read the book? i was gonna pick it up.

I'm waiting for someone else to buy it so I can borrow it

byhookorbycrook

Got an autographed book in Easons in Dungarvan,would have heard all the stories so nothing too new in it.

byhookorbycrook

William Powell wrote: »

Be difficult to burry anyone there as your choice is in the stones on the beach or in the river.

Book claims he might have been buried under a road NEAR the bridge.

STIG83

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Book claims he might have been buried under a road NEAR the bridge.

That could be anywhere.

William Powell

byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Book claims he might have been buried under a road NEAR the bridge.

There are no roads near the bridge other than the one that goes over it. From your picture quoted earlier the cottage on the left has a track into it and the cotages on the hill have a track up to them and thats it. There used to be access to the fields behind the cottage on the left under the left hand arch of the bridge (not the far left arch the one to the left of the centre) the far left arch is interesting as it no longer exists. The area around the cottage on the left of that photo (Dalligan Lodge ?) has changed big time as there is a new house there and all the land has been raised to stop the hight tide and river flooding it.

btw I've checked a few older maps and my Bartholmew map of 1969 gives Ballyvoile Bridge being the one in the cove.

William Powell

A newer picture

If you want to dig up around it Dalligan house is yours for €990,000 and an option to buy the old cottage.

Edit> Just google Ballyvoile Cove for a few pictures of the bridge

http://www.cianclarke.com/component/option,com_gallery2/Itemid,28/?g2_itemId=620

http://www.flickr.com/photos/brokenbiscuits2004/4566282837/

http://www.stradbally.com/VILLAGEPHOTO1.html

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William Powell wrote: »

R675

thanks;)

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William Powell wrote: »

A newer picture

If you want to dig up around it the house is yours for €990,000 and an option to buy the old cottage.

thanks nice house;)good pointer. it is right on the coast?
Just looked at book again.it is near the bridge the body is supposed to be. I think he said he was driven there at night and not told exactly where

byhookorbycrook

STIG83 wrote: »

That could be anywhere.

It shows a picture of the bit,opposite pg 161 of the book.

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byhookorbycrook wrote: »

It shows a picture of the bit,opposite pg 161 of the book.

yes i have it trying to work out where the pic in book is in relation to the pic with the house is. If you follow the bend to left in book where would you come to in pic with house, from what side?

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STIG83 wrote: »

Did anyone read the book? i was gonna pick it up.

i did. i often heard relations of friend from that area speak of it. He was on pat kenny and said he is still not finished investigation as to location of body

William Powell

Can you post a scan or a drawing, I can post a modern map from serveral sources if that will help.

byhookorbycrook

Pic in the book is basically a bend in the road with a low stone wall, so not exactly precise.

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William Powell wrote: »

Can you post a scan or a drawing, I can post a modern map from serveral sources if that will help.

sent you a pm

William Powell

Thanks - now seen the picture in the book and I'll take a drive by tomorrow and confirm exactly where it was taken but as far as I can see its on the R675 heading towards Dungarvan and just to the North of the main road (R675) bridge over the River Dalligan. The OS map (sheet 82) calls it Ballyvoyle Old Bridge. Ballyvoyle New Bridge (sorry my mistake )
So from what I can tell this is the Bridge the book is on about http://www.ballyvoyle.net/Images/General/Ballyvoyle_Road_Bridge.JPG and not the one on the cove.

Edit> Some more pics but of the right bridge I hope
The guys in this picture are stood on this bridge and in this later picture you can just see the line of the road running on the right of the picture and thats the bit of road that I believe the book is on about.

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William Powell wrote: »

Thanks - now seen the picture in the book and I'll take a drive by tomorrow and confirm exactly where it was taken but as far as I can see its on the R675 heading towards Dungarvan and just to the North of the main road (R675) bridge over the River Dalligan. The OS map (sheet 82) calls it Ballyvoyle Old Bridge.

So from what I can tell this is the Bridge the book is on about http://www.ballyvoyle.net/Images/General/Ballyvoyle_Road_Bridge.JPG and not the one on the cove.

got your pm thanks. That bridge looks more like the one in the book. Thanks again info appreciated

deise go deo

The author of that book throws some cold water on the Idea of Larry Griffin being buried under Ballyvoyle bridge in the last chapter. Apparently the story that he was buried near Ballyvoyle Bridge was never mentioned in the original Garda files, and the Gardaí at the time took note of all the various stories and gossip going around as to what might have happened to the body.

He could have been put in any one of a thousand places, I very much doubt we will ever know the true story of what happened to his body.

STIG83

deise go deo wrote: »

The author of that book throws some cold water on the Idea of Larry Griffin being buried under Ballyvoyle bridge in the last chapter. Apparently the story that he was buried near Ballyvoyle Bridge was never mentioned in the original Garda files, and the Gardaí at the time took note of all the various stories and gossip going around as to what might have happened to the body.

He could have been put in any one of a thousand places, I very much doubt we will ever know the true story of what happened to his body.

Im sure who ever did know what happened his body are well gone by now, pity there was DNA back then, it would have been solved IMHO

William Powell

Don't forget when this occured, nowadays you could throw a body in a boot of a car and burry it hundreds of miles away. When your fastest mode of transport was a horse and cart and everyones business and movements were known by the whole community you would have far fewer options.

William Powell

So this is the location from the book....



And just so anyone looking can find it theres signpost just to the right of the road....



The bridge is a few hundred meters down the road and your looking in the direction of the sea and on the road driving towards Dungarvan.

Edit> Just in case anyones not 100% clear heres a map...

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William Powell wrote: »

So this is the location from the book....



And just so anyone looking can find it theres signpost just to the right of the road....



The bridge is a few hundred meters down the road and your looking in the direction of the sea and on the road driving towards Dungarvan.

Edit> Just in case anyones not 100% clear heres a map...

thanks for that. can i ask what program you used to put the arrows and text on the map?

STIG83

Did ya go on a hunt yet OP?

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STIG83 wrote: »

Did ya go on a hunt yet OP?

can't you stay out of it if you have nothing but smart remarks

William Powell

Resend wrote: »

thanks for that. can i ask what program you used to put the arrows and text on the map?

Just the MSPaint that comes with Windows 7. First time I've used that version and its loads better than the older ones.

byhookorbycrook

STIG83 wrote: »

Im sure who ever did know what happened his body are well gone by now, pity there was DNA back then, it would have been solved IMHO

Still one or two people of that generation left. Most of the people in the book have gone, but there are people who lived in the village at the time who are still alive.

STIG83

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can't you stay out of it if you have nothing but smart remarks

I said nothing smart to ya, was asking a simple question.

ziedth

I mentioned this before but my grand father god rest him would have been a teenager around the time and I'm fairly certain knew the full story.

If you brought it up till the day he died he would leave the room. He's in a picture actually in that book as a child.

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byhookorbycrook wrote: »

Still one or two people of that generation left. Most of the people in the book have gone, but there are people who lived in the village at the time who are still alive.

that is why the book can be written now. Down the years several papers were sued

Is there a statue in memory of Larry Griffin? I seem to remember hearing there was but cannot find any reference to it

byhookorbycrook

Never heard of a statue.

William Powell

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Is there a statue in memory of Larry Griffin? I seem to remember hearing there was but cannot find any reference to it

Never heard of one either.

You're not thinking of the John Cummins Memorial are you, its just down the road on the other side of the bridge from my previous pictures.

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William Powell wrote: »

Never heard of one either.

You're not thinking of the John Cummins Memorial are you, its just down the road on the other side of the bridge from my previous pictures.

I think I am confusing it with the fact his name is on the headstone of his wife's grave, isn't it?

William Powell

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I think I am confusing it with the fact his name is on the headstone of his wife's grave, isn't it?

I remember reading his Grandson said that in one of the many press articles I've read the last couple of nights.

This article in fact Missing postman’s family still seek closure 81 years later

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William Powell wrote: »

I remember reading his Grandson said that in one of the many press articles I've read the last couple of nights.

This article in fact Missing postman’s family still seek closure 81 years later

Have you seen the documentary by the man who wrote the book? It shows his name on the headstone as far as i remember

boost creep

William Powell wrote: »

Which Ballyvoile Bridge?

There are 3

The old railway bridge, the main road bridge and the bridge in the cove.

Just come out (or into) Dungarvan on the coast road and about 4 mile out you hit a really sharp right hand bend and then the cove bridge is in the valley below you the main road bridge is the next bridge you will go over (half a mile on) and when you go over the main road bridge you should see the old railway bridge up the vally to the North.

Might be be Ballyvoyle depending on which map your looking at, most Sat Navs have Ballyvoile Cove or Ballyvoile Cross mapped.

http://www.ballyvoyle.net/

isn't that sharp bend you're talking about a left hander?