RTE has no money for Irish boxing, but............

slapbangwallop

.............its got enough money and time in the schedule to buy us in three hours of the British Royal Wedding on Friday.

No I am not making this up!

Yes it is on SKY, BBC and ITV as well!

http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/15331494_tv_The_British_Royal_Wedding

I need to either punch a hole in a door (preferably a cheap B&Q one so I dont hurt me knuckles) or I need to smoke a joint and chill out.

marknine

I agree. RTE is only interested in there Dublin 4 veiwers. Ask anyone from the country or up in Donegal. D4 is all that maters to them.

Lady Chatterton

slapbangwallop wrote: »

.............its got enough money and time in the schedule to buy us in three hours of the British Royal Wedding on Friday.

No I am not making this up!

Yes it is on SKY, BBC and ITV as well!

http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/15331494_tv_The_British_Royal_Wedding

I need to either punch a hole in a door (preferably a cheap B&Q one so I dont hurt me knuckles) or I need to smoke a joint and chill out.

I've been watching boxing on TV since I was a child (since the days of the Clones Cyclone) and I can completely see where you are coming from.

However, RTE is a public service broadcaster (or is meant to be anyway) so they are providing three hours coverage of the royal wedding as they feel there will be a huge interest in it and will attract large viewship figures. I can see why they want to broadcast this royal wedding in particular as William is going to be the future king of England. Love them or loathe them they are still our neighbours. Think about the advertising revenue RTE will make from this programme if it makes you feel better.

Cosimo Salvatore

Obviously smoke a joint.

slapbangwallop

MrsD007 wrote: »

I've been watching boxing on TV since I was a child (since the days of the Clones Cyclone) and I can completely see where you are coming from.

However, RTE is a public service broadcaster (or is meant to be anyway) so they are providing three hours coverage of the royal wedding as they feel there will be a huge interest in it and will attract large viewship figures. I can see why they want to broadcast this royal wedding in particular as William is going to be the future king of England. Love them or loathe them they are still our neighbours. Think about the advertising revenue RTE will make from this programme if it makes you feel better.

Sure they are our neighbours but will they be showing the wedding of Enda Kenny's daughter? Why is the Irish national broadcaster fawning over these parasites?

Willie Casey fought (unsuccessfully) for a world title in March and RTE turned it down because it said it had no budget to air the fight and that it wouldnt be showing any "non contracted" shows due to lack of budget.

So the promoter of the show had to stump up the costs of the outside broadcast just to get the guy on TV - would revenue would that make for RTE.

I know its basically two subjects a. Irish TV fawning over the British Royal Family and b. how RTE screws over boxing but when I saw it on the schedule today I nearly bust a blood vessel!

marknine

No problem with the royal wedding, or even RTE showing it. My problem with RTE is they live and breathe Dublin 4 and don’t seem to see the bigger picture. RTE should be producing programmes that they can sell through out the world like the BBC do. God knows, we have enough talent here. They are our national broadcaster and should act like it.

slapbangwallop

Cosimo Salvatore wrote: »

Obviously smoke a joint.

The line of least resistance, I like it, will do! Dubey time!

Lady Chatterton

slapbangwallop wrote: »

Willie Casey fought (unsuccessfully) for a world title in March and RTE turned it down because it said it had no budget to air the fight and that it wouldnt be showing any "non contracted" shows due to lack of budget.

So the promoter of the show had to stump up the costs of the outside broadcast just to get the guy on TV - would revenue would that make for RTE.

I know its basically two subjects a. Irish TV fawning over the British Royal Family and b. how RTE screws over boxing but when I saw it on the schedule today I nearly bust a blood vessel!

RTE did show Willie Casey's fight. I watched it myself. Unfortunately, it was a very short fight but hopefully, Willie will be back.

expectationlost

it was the same with the euro athletics a couple of years back which they had bought the rights to in a package and said they didn't have the money do a sports show for.

who doesn't have bbc or sky or utv, rte don't need to show it.

monarchy is disgusting

drayme

slapbangwallop wrote: »

.............its got enough money and time in the schedule to buy us in three hours of the British Royal Wedding on Friday.

No I am not making this up!

Yes it is on SKY, BBC and ITV as well!

http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/15331494_tv_The_British_Royal_Wedding

I need to either punch a hole in a door (preferably a cheap B&Q one so I dont hurt me knuckles) or I need to smoke a joint and chill out.

^ Known TV exec slapbangwallop here

One thing will get ratings and advertisers and the other less so. I dont know why this is so tough to understand

Mint Sauce

slapbangwallop wrote: »

.............its got enough money and time in the schedule to buy us in three hours of the British Royal Wedding on Friday.

No I am not making this up!

Yes it is on SKY, BBC and ITV as well!

http://www.rte.ie/ten/listings/15331494_tv_The_British_Royal_Wedding

I need to either punch a hole in a door (preferably a cheap B&Q one so I dont hurt me knuckles) or I need to smoke a joint and chill out.

And about 7 or 8 hrs on TV3. There does seem to be lot of interest in it, and if the predictions are true, they reckon a 3rd of the population will be tuning in at some point.

slapbangwallop

irish-stew wrote: »

And about 7 or 8 hrs on TV3. There does seem to be lot of interest in it, and if the predictions are true, they reckon a 3rd of the population will be tuning in at some point.

Wow, thats mind boggling. Talk about brianwashed idiots watching two no marks playing dress up and pretending they are important.

I am genuinely dismayed by this nonsense. I must be really out of touch. Agh well!

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTE did show Willie Casey's fight. I watched it myself. Unfortunately, it was a very short fight but hopefully, Willie will be back.

Yeah, like I said, Willie Casey's promoter had to pay for RTE to air the show - they gave them the rights to air it and paid them for the Outside Broadcast

Lady Chatterton

I don't have a problem with RTE showing the actual wedding itself but I just caught the end of a programme a few minutes ago on RTE 1 called Will agus Kate. It was hosted by Bláithnaid Ni Chofaigh and half of the RTE canteen appeared on the programme to speculate about who might be at the wedding and what the bride would be wearing etc. Complete and uttter sh1te and a big waste of money.

RTE only ever seem to invest in sports programmes that will guarantee them a big audience. I'm a huge motorsport fan but I appreciate that it wouldn't be everyones cuppa tea. If I want to see coverage of the Irish Rally Championship, I watch it on UTV. Thank God, I'm not relying on the bog channels.

Mint Sauce

slapbangwallop wrote: »

Wow, thats mind boggling. Talk about brianwashed idiots watching two no marks playing dress up and pretending they are important.

I am genuinely dismayed by this nonsense. I must be really out of touch. Agh well!



Yeah, like I said, Willie Casey's promoter had to pay for RTE to air the show - they gave them the rights to air it and paid them for the Outside Broadcast

ah come on, are you not a little curious at all.



Will probably tune in for a little of it my self.

Buts its not just the boxing, RTE are totally out of touch in what the viewing public want.

Nolanger

Boxing is working class and RTÉ is full of middle-class wan*ers with fake D4 accents who are in awe of the upper classes e.g. British royalty.

drayme

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTE only ever seem to invest in sports programmes that will guarantee them a big audience.

If they didnt the other half of boards would complain how their license money is being spent on stuff no one watches.

drayme

Nolanger wrote: »

Boxing is working class and RTÉ is full of middle-class wan*ers with fake D4 accents who are in awe of the upper classes e.g. British royalty.

Yes only the middle class is interested in the royal wedding. AC Nielsen should hire you.

Lady Chatterton

[QUOTE=slapbangwallop;71876592
Yeah, like I said, Willie Casey's promoter had to pay for RTE to air the show - they gave them the rights to air it and paid them for the Outside Broadcast[/QUOTE]
Ok, I see what you mean. I didn't realise that the promotor had to pay for the outside broadcast. However, I can sort of see where RTE were coming from with regard to that fight in a way. The most respected people in boxing didn't give Willie a chance of winning so maybe RTE felt that it would be a waste of resources to cover it.

Minstrel27

I imagine that this wedding is probably costing them very little. It's not just Irish tv that seems to be obsessed by this wedding, it will be shown worldwide.

sonic85

cant for the life of me understand why anyone would want to watch this rubbish. ill be steering well clear. as for being curious - curious about what exactly? what are people expecting to see

drayme

sonic85 wrote: »

cant for the life of me understand why anyone would want to watch this rubbish. ill be steering well clear. as for being curious - curious about what exactly? what are people expecting to see

People
Like
Weddings

sonic85

drayme wrote: »

People
Like
Weddings

thats not answering my question though is it? what exactly is so fascinating about them? seems a bit sad to me to be honest. ive no problem with it being shown but its on nearly every fcuking channel! live and let live and all that but i dont want it forced down my throat

Johnmb

sonic85 wrote: »

cant for the life of me understand why anyone would want to watch this rubbish. ill be steering well clear. as for being curious - curious about what exactly? what are people expecting to see

I'd hate to have a life so pathetic that I've nothing better to do with my time than sitting at home watching the wedding of two strangers on TV. But then again, I feel the same way about "reality" TV, I guess this appeals to the same lowest common denominator audience.

drayme

sonic85 wrote: »

thats not answering my question though is it? what exactly is so fascinating about them? seems a bit sad to me to be honest. ive no problem with it being shown but its on nearly every fcuking channel! live and let live and all that but i dont want it forced down my throat

Yep there are zero other entertainment options post the advent of Sky Digital, Anytime, Blu Ray players and the internet. Thats before getting up off your arse.

Johnmb wrote: »

I'd hate to have a life so pathetic that I've nothing better to do with my time than sitting at home watching the wedding of two strangers on TV. But then again, I feel the same way about "reality" TV, I guess this appeals to the same lowest common denominator audience.

And posting angrily on the internet about what is on the television is the pursuit of the enlightened few right?

Lady Chatterton

Anyone involved in the fashion/bridal industry is going to be watching the royal wedding this Friday. I love Philip Treacy's designs so I'm looking forward to seeing what he has created for the big day. It is wonderful to see one of our own doing so well.

Seifer

marknine wrote: »

No problem with the royal wedding, or even RTE showing it. My problem with RTE is they live and breathe Dublin 4 and don’t seem to see the bigger picture. RTE should be producing programmes that they can sell through out the world like the BBC do. God knows, we have enough talent here. They are our national broadcaster and should act like it.

This is funny.
As someone who may fall into your Dublin 4 category or at least know people who do, the general consensus amongst my peers is that RTE is very "rural".
The only thing RTE has ever done well is, Reeling in the Years.

PS. I won't be watching the wedding on any channel

gandalf

Every woman I know is going to watch this because it is a bloody wedding! My missus has already warned me to download something to watch on the laptop because she will be glued to it. She isn't even Irish she is French. It has nothing to do with monarchy!

As for boxing yes in an ideal world RTE should be devoting time to it but they are probably looking at the projected viewing figures and associated advertising revenue.

While I have no interest in the Royal Wedding I also have absolutly o interest in watching Boxing either ven though my younger brothers are heavily involved in the sport.

Does the fact that the wedding is on RTE annoy me, not in the least as I understand that the off button is there for a reason and regarding people complaining about the cost I would imagine that it was pretty cheap as they most likely bought the rights to broadcast BBC's coverage adn will simply have one of their own do the commentary.

S.M.B.

Randomly pick 100 numbers from a few phone books spanning the entire county and ask them

a) if they plan on watching any rte coverage of the royal wedding
b) did they watch the Willie Casey fight in March

I've got a very strong feeling which question will get the most positive replies.

Ridiculous thread!

Predator_

They didnt show the Easter Rising Commemorations either. RTE are just a bunch of west brits

TwoShedsJackson

More people (mostly women) would prefer to see a nice wedding between two toffs than watch two grown men hit each other under the guise of 'sport', that's it really.

Minstrel27

Deleted User wrote: »

regarding people complaining about the cost I would imagine that it was pretty cheap as they most likely bought the rights to broadcast BBC's coverage adn will simply have one of their own do the commentary.

The BBC are providing the feed to all EBU members for free.

Guy:Incognito

sonic85 wrote: »

thats not answering my question though is it? what exactly is so fascinating about them? seems a bit sad to me to be honest. ive no problem with it being shown but its on nearly every fcuking channel! live and let live and all that but i dont want it forced down my throat

There are wedding programs on all the time about people nobody has ever heard of (big fat gypsey wedding etc) but watch. This is the wedding involving somewhat famous people.


Is the wedding actually costing RTE anything? Or is this just more Rabbling?

EDIT, Minstrel answered it.
so are people going to stop giving out or will they move on to complaining that RTE dont pay for fights to be arranged on Friday afternoons?

drayme

Predator_ wrote: »

They didnt show the Easter Rising Commemorations either. RTE are just a bunch of west brits

2+2=5

Elmo

It's prob very cheap to import but RTÉ should have just left it to ITV Ireland to broadcast.

RTÉ should have broadcast the Easter 1916 commemoration they had mass and church services across the easter weekend.

As for Boxing really you could relate it to any type of sport TBH. Do we know if the rights were up for sale? And why isn't ITV Ireland pick up some other sporting events they are always complaining that RTÉ have too many, now they have a chance to broadcast it on an indo channel.

Also the Head of TV is a Unionist after all.

goose2005

MrsD007 wrote: »

RTE only ever seem to invest in sports programmes that will guarantee them a big audience. I'm a huge motorsport fan but I appreciate that it wouldn't be everyones cuppa tea. If I want to see coverage of the Irish Rally Championship, I watch it on UTV. Thank God, I'm not relying on the bog channels.

The same is true of gaa - RTE only care about the All-Ireland. If you want to see clubs, national league, women's games, interprovincial, colleges, etc. then tg4 cater for the dedicated fan. Nor do they bother building fancy studios, it's just a few guys under umbrellas and it's just as good.

golfball37

RTE are only showing this because TV3 are showing it imo.

Elmo

golfball37 wrote: »

RTE are only showing this because TV3 are showing it imo.

That's competition for you!

calf

The can afford to send charlie bird to the North pole

Elmo

calf wrote: »

The can afford to send charlie bird to the North pole

What's more annoying is that they can afford to bring him back.

DB10

RTE are a disgrace but what's new, they wouldn't show the Easter Rising ceremony at the weekend but they will show this utter ****e.

It's true what the previous posters said, they are catered for the D4 posh rugby followers, they don't care for the common man. Bunch of West Brits.
Lets not let TV3 off either, what an other ****e channel and they're showing 8 hours of this rubbish?
The only thing that saves them is they have an odd decent film on. TG4 is better than either, pity I don't speak much Irish.

drayme

DB10 wrote: »

RTE are a disgrace but what's new, they wouldn't show the Easter Rising ceremony at the weekend but they will show this utter ****e.

It's true what the previous posters said, they are catered for the D4 posh rugby followers, they don't care for the common man. Bunch of West Brits.
Lets not let TV3 off either, what an other ****e channel and they're showing 8 hours of this rubbish?
The only thing that saves them is they have an odd decent film on. TG4 is better than either, pity I don't speak much Irish.

Another sensible post.

It is cheap and will rate really well. I dont know why it is so hard that people have to clasp at straws with the whole West Brit thing.

seadnamac

goose2005 wrote: »

The same is true of gaa - RTE only care about the All-Ireland. If you want to see clubs, national league, women's games, interprovincial, colleges, etc. then tg4 cater for the dedicated fan. Nor do they bother building fancy studios, it's just a few guys under umbrellas and it's just as good.

You think TG4 wouldn't swap all that for the higher ratings of the All Ireland in a heartbeat?

The level to which posters in this thread have absolutely no idea how TV and TV stations operate is actually mind boggling.

And anybody who has ever referred to anyone or anything as a 'West Brit' (whatever the f*ck that is) is nothing short of an imbeccile.

DB10

drayme wrote: »

Another sensible post.

It is cheap and will rate really well.

I'm sure it will rate well, in D4 and the British embassy.

On second thoughts, they will probably watch superior coverage than such a second rate channel, on Sky1, BBC, ITV, Channel 4 or even gulp TV3.

People wonder why RTE is hated so much.

ArmaniJeanss

So RTE pay nothing for the boxing and broadcast it, and pay nothing for the wedding and broadcast that also?

/thread.

Elmo

ArmaniJeanss wrote: »

So RTE pay nothing for the boxing and broadcast it, and pay nothing for the wedding and broadcast that also?

/thread.

Providing actual coverage of something is allot more expensive than buying something in. RTÉ Boxing coverage cost more than the British Royal Wedding coverage. But just because something is cheap to buy in does mean it should be broadcast or bought, RTÉ would be better off saving the money spent on the British Royal Wedding for coverage of Irish events. For example Today we started counting the Seanad votes yet RTÉ gave little coverage to that count.

The same can be said of all Irish broadcasters.

You think TG4 wouldn't swap all that for the higher ratings of the All Ireland in a heartbeat?

TG4 do it on a budget that is what the poster is suggesting and they still retain good ratings for such sports programming. However RTÉ Boxing coverage is usually carried out in the venue with a fairly simple set.

West Brit is an Irish person who follows everything that happens over in London and even if it is the biggest mistake ever, and thinks that it should be replicated in Ireland, often they refuse to look at other European country when analyising the facts, even though another European country of a similar size to Ireland would provide better data then that of a country 10times Ireland's size. (It is very frustrating to see it happen so many times).

IRISHSPORTSGUY

I have no interest, but I've been hearing all week when I turn on the radio that 1 in 5 Irish people want to watch it. The people get what the people want...

ArmaniJeanss

Elmo wrote: »

But just because something is cheap to buy in does mean it should be broadcast or bought, RTÉ would be better off saving the money spent on the British Royal Wedding for coverage of Irish events.

But if they got it for nothing through EBU (as another poster indicated) then why not take it. Doubtless they'll throw in a few ad breaks and there's potential to actually make a profit on the whole thing.
And that money could be spent on other Irish events.
It would thus seem a very silly move by RTE if they hadn't taken the wedding?

Elmo wrote: »

For example Today we started counting the Seanad votes yet RTÉ gave little coverage to that count.

Funnily enough I think I'd prefer to watch the Royal Wedding! And I say that as quite the politics fan, I did a 15 hour marathon of TV watching the day of the GE but have no interest in the Seanad elections.

Minstrel27

Elmo wrote: »

For example Today we started counting the Seanad votes yet RTÉ gave little coverage to that count.

The same can be said of all Irish broadcasters.

There is a very good reason why nobody gave much coverage. Who in all honesty gives a damn about it.

Pauleta

The Royal Wedding will cost the electricity used to reposition a satelite. Boxing will have a high production cost on Saturday night primetime. Boxing may not be doing good numbers on RTE. Use your brains!

Elmo

Pauleta wrote: »

The Royal Wedding will cost the electricity used to reposition a satelite. Boxing will have a high production cost on Saturday night primetime. Boxing may not be doing good numbers on RTE. Use your brains!

It is not the job of a PSB to worry about ratings it is their to provide a public service to all the people of Ireland. The Royal Wedding coverage could be seen as part of that remit for people in Northern Ireland and some British living in Ireland however I am sure that RTÉ through the EBU would have had other Royal Weddings and surely citizen from those countries are entitled to watch their royals get married.

There is a very good reason why nobody gave much coverage. Who in all honesty gives a damn about it.

Funny this is why the Seanad is not doing its job and getting away with high expenses etc. The Royal Wedding is just a band wagon I was just watch EuroNews and other news outlets and felt more embarrassed for the Young Royals, but I suppose that is why they can live the way they do! I don't think that they are even as important as the Seanad, but that would be a judgement call.

Doubtless they'll throw in a few ad breaks and there's potential to actually make a profit on the whole thing.

AFAIK it is Ad free. Chi Ching! Also RTÉ will have to use resources to broadcast the event regardless of how free the event is to them.