Not being able to buy drink on Good Friday

shadowcomplex

isnt it about time this archaic rule where a person cant buy drink on good friday should be done away with, who are the goverment to tell me or tell anyone what we can or can not do, we aren't supposed to eat meat on good friday either, how come they dont enforce the non selling of this?

Doctor DooM

You should probably do a search of the forum... this is done to death every year.

Dave!

Preaching the choir there brah

tayto lover

Its a pity there were not about 50 Good Fridays in the year. I do drink but to hear people complaining that for 2 days a year the pubs are shut is ridiculous. Make it a family day or call in on an elderly neighbour to see if they are o.k.

strobe

tayto lover wrote: »

Its a pity there were not about 50 Good Fridays in the year. I do drink but to hear people complaining that for 2 days a year the pubs are shut is ridiculous. Make it a family day or call in on an elderly neighbour to see if they are o.k.

I think what you mean is "buy an inhuman amount of alcohol on Thursday and then drink till your liver starts to scream at the traditional Irish BBQ/House party on Good Friday". Don't worry though, I have invited my elderly neighbour over, she's a gin woman herself.

Improbable

tayto lover wrote: »

Its a pity there were not about 50 Good Fridays in the year. I do drink but to hear people complaining that for 2 days a year the pubs are shut is ridiculous. Make it a family day or call in on an elderly neighbour to see if they are o.k.

What's ridiculous is that the policies of the catholic church are dictating to people what they can and can't do. I don't care if it's only for the entire year, 2 days or only for 10 minutes of 1 day. I'm not catholic and I don't want the catholic church to be the reason that I'm told I can or can't do something.

andy1249

Off licenses , Pubs , supermarkets etc. were all open all week ... there was plenty of time to stock up if you must get wasted today.

Dave!

tayto lover wrote: »

Its a pity there were not about 50 Good Fridays in the year. I do drink but to hear people complaining that for 2 days a year the pubs are shut is ridiculous. Make it a family day or call in on an elderly neighbour to see if they are o.k.

Dunno if you're intentionally missing the point or what, but most people on here complain because they don't think that an explicitly religious law should prevent them from choosing for themselves whether or not they want to drink.

Trampas

whatever about pubs been closed. you should be able to buy drink in a shop.

why are hotels exempt?

tayto lover

Dave! wrote: »

Dunno if you're intentionally missing the point or what, but most people on here complain because they don't think that an explicitly religious law should prevent them from choosing for themselves whether or not they want to drink.

I'm not religious either but if the State decided that these two days should be retained do you think it would make a difference to those people complaining?

Improbable

tayto lover wrote: »

I'm not religious either but if the State decided that these two days should be retained do you think it would make a difference to those people complaining?

And on what legal basis would the state forbid the sale of alcohol for some random amount of time except for the appeasement of the church?

Paco Rodriguez

Yes, and we should all be working today and every Sunday

Of course meat isn't banned from sale

Dave!

tayto lover wrote: »

I'm not religious either but if the State decided that these two days should be retained do you think it would make a difference to those people complaining?

A difference in what sense? It wouldn't dramatically affect their lives, no. We can all still stock up on drink before today if we want, or, like me, just take it easy. But surely you agree that in principle there should be no law like this in place in a modern country -- enforcing a rule for a specific religion? One which I assume most adherents do the religion probably don't even follow anyway.

tayto lover

Improbable wrote: »

And on what legal basis would the state forbid the sale of alcohol for some random amount of time except for the appeasement of the church?

Maybe they could become World Health days?
This could be the only Friday of the year in which children see their father, so maybe Fathering Friday. How about that?

tayto lover

Dave! wrote: »

A difference in what sense? It wouldn't dramatically affect their lives, no. We can all still stock up on drink before today if we want, or, like me, just take it easy. But surely you agree that in principle there should be no law like this in place in a modern country -- enforcing a rule for a specific religion? One which I assume most adherents do the religion probably don't even follow anyway.

Maybe it could be called "Whinging Friday" as that is the National past-time !

Kepti

tayto lover wrote: »

I'm not religious either but if the State decided that these two days should be retained do you think it would make a difference to those people complaining?

For a start, they probably wouldn't be complaining on this particular sub-forum.

I'm not much of a drinker, but it's daft for either the church or the state to arbitrarily restrict adults from purchasing legal substances.

liamw

tayto lover wrote: »

Maybe it could be called "Whinging Friday" as that is the National past-time !

Maybe you should crawl back into your box unless you have a decent rational argument for why the state should enforce a religious based law in a multi-denominational populace.

'stop whining it's only one day' is not an argument.

tayto lover

liamw wrote: »

Maybe you should crawl back into your box unless you have a decent rational argument for why the state should enforce a religious based law in a multi-denominational populace.

'stop whining it's only one day' is not an argument.

ok so Cheers !!

Improbable

tayto lover wrote: »

Maybe they could become World Health days?
This could be the only Friday of the year in which children see their father, so maybe Fathering Friday. How about that?

And that's a valid legal basis is it?

goat2

strobe wrote: »

I think what you mean is "buy an inhuman amount of alcohol on Thursday and then drink till your liver starts to scream at the traditional Irish BBQ/House party on Good Friday". Don't worry though, I have invited my elderly neighbour over, she's a gin woman herself.

while in que in supermarket yesterday, the amount of alcohol being bought shocked me, shows what a problem we have in this country with the consumption of alcohol, and now reading here i realise why all this stuff was being bought, this stuff is the cause of broken homes, wrecked lives, and for those who think i am teetotal, no i am not, i like my few drinks now and then, say once a month, it is enough on my head and pocket that way, i do not understand how people can be in pubs by day drinking and affording to feed, educate, and care for children and provide them with a warm happy comfortable home, i know i would not have been able to provide for mine if i were out on the booze every week.

robindch

shadowcomplex wrote: »

a person cant buy drink on good friday

That'd explain the massive queues in my local offie last night. Third-busiest day in the year after New Year's and winterval according to the guy at the counter.

Wonder why all our anti-burka-ban friends aren't exercising some outrage over real rights' suppression?!

tayto lover

goat2 wrote: »

while in que in supermarket yesterday, the amount of alcohol being bought shocked me, shows what a problem we have in this country with the consumption of alcohol, and now reading here i realise why all this stuff was being bought, this stuff is the cause of broken homes, wrecked lives, and for those who think i am teetotal, no i am not, i like my few drinks now and then, say once a month, it is enough on my head and pocket that way, i do not understand how people can be in pubs by day drinking and affording to feed, educate, and care for children and provide them with a warm happy comfortable home, i know i would not have been able to provide for mine if i were out on the booze every week.

Yes indeed. Its a crying shame that people would complain so much about the pubs closing for 2 days a year. Whether its church or state's fault they will still complain but they never think of the damage over-indulgence in alcohol causes.
great and true post !!

smokingman

At least all the churches are open! :-D

Aldebaran

smokingman wrote: »

At least all the churches are open! :-D

Yeah, and I hear they serve wine too.

Galvasean

Hey guys, who wants to come to an obscenely named party?

Dave!

Someone I know just posted on Facebook that she saw a hen party in town looking for an open pub! Disaster

Morgase

I know it's probably been said before, but why does the prohibition side seem to think that anybody who wants to purchase alcohol on this date is automatically an alcoholic?

I'm sure I drink far less than the average Irish person. In fact, it's been months since I was in a pub, and on that occasion I had one pint. When I do have a drink, I normally only have one or two drinks; quality over quantity and all that.

Zillah

Just had a BBQ. There were fish kebab things for people of that persuasion. I don't think they were very popular. Wonderful to see so many people utterly ignoring the church.

Also the butchers was bloody crazy this morning

Galvasean

Morgase wrote: »

I know it's probably been said before, but why does the prohibition side seem to think that anybody who wants to purchase alcohol on this date is automatically an alcoholic?

It's an ad-hominen, make your opponents look bad so their opinion counts for less.
Usually delivered in a pseudo-shrill manner: "Surely you can go without drink for ONE day?!?!!?!?"
Of course we can (and frequently do). We just don't want to be forced to do so on the basis of an archaic law made to satisfy a religion hardly anybody adheres to anymore.

strobe

goat2 wrote: »

while in que in supermarket yesterday, the amount of alcohol being bought shocked me, shows what a problem we have in this country with the consumption of alcohol, and now reading here i realise why all this stuff was being bought, this stuff is the cause of broken homes, wrecked lives, and for those who think i am teetotal, no i am not, i like my few drinks now and then, say once a month, it is enough on my head and pocket that way, i do not understand how people can be in pubs by day drinking and affording to feed, educate, and care for children and provide them with a warm happy comfortable home, i know i would not have been able to provide for mine if i were out on the booze every week.

You should have studied harder in college and got a better paying job so.

Chuck Stone

There's a good case for mass disobedience by publicans and the public to show the rule up for what it is - stupid.

Gregor Samsa

Even Jesus had a tipple on Good Friday:

Mat 27:48 Immediately one of them ran and got a sponge. He filled it with wine vinegar, put it on a stick, and offered it to Jesus to drink.

goat2

strobe wrote: »

You should have studied harder in college and got a better paying job so.

no matter what job a person keep down, no employer want an employee coming in the mornings to work with hangover, or better still not coming at all because of overindulgence in alcohol, the only persons you see five days a week in pubs are not working, so no matter what one earn, it is not the amount we earn, it is how we spend it, wisely, or foolishly

Improbable

goat2 wrote: »

no matter what job a person keep down, no employer want an employee coming in the mornings to work with hangover, or better still not coming at all because of overindulgence in alcohol, the only persons you see five days a week in pubs are not working, so no matter what one earn, it is not the amount we earn, it is how we spend it, wisely, or foolishly

I don't care if they come in hungover every day of the year, as long as they do their job. And You're failing to recognise the point that it isn't about how much or how little people drink, or the effects of alcohol on people. It's about the fact that the catholic church shouldn't have the ability to effectively force people to do/not do certain things.

tayto lover

Improbable wrote: »

I don't care if they come in hungover every day of the year, as long as they do their job. And You're failing to recognise the point that it isn't about how much or how little people drink, or the effects of alcohol on people. It's about the fact that the catholic church shouldn't have the ability to effectively force people to do/not do certain things.

You should visit some of the Arab states.

bryaner

Twas steak for me today and I'm on me 5th hot one to burn this fcukin dose outa me, I'll stop eating meat and drinking alcohol on good friday when priests stop fiddling with kids..

Dave!

Not as any protest or anything, but I had some ham at breakfast, and I'm drinking a beer now Oh well

witnessmenow

Honest question: would pro drink good friday people be willing to get that law abolished , if we lost christmas day (and associated days) as a national holiday?

TBH i dont see much difference between the two in this day and age.


IMO i wouldnt mind people being allowed drink on good friday if the day the alcohol ban was moved, 2 days a year for pubs to be closed is low enough as it is.

bryaner

witnessmenow wrote: »

Honest question: would pro drink good friday people be willing to get that law abolished , if we lost christmas day (and associated days) as a national holiday?

TBH i dont see much difference between the two in this day and age.


IMO i wouldnt mind people being allowed drink on good friday if the day the alcohol ban was moved, 2 days a year for pubs to be closed is low enough as it is.

I enjoy me pint but in fairness I'd hate to see pubs open on Christmas day, Iv'e heard so many stories from England over the years of childrens Christmas day being ruined over bad fathers going to the boozer and coming back slaughtered.

Albeit I'm sure plenty do it here without the boozer open, but give them one less chance I guess..

Dades

Dave! wrote: »

Not as any protest or anything, but I had some ham at breakfast, and I'm drinking a beer now Oh well

Maldjd23

In town earlier around 630 parked outside the exchequer and 3 English lads knocked on my window asking me was there anywhere they could get a beer other then their hotel..They seemed bemused by the whole Good Friday pub closing situation we have over here...It makes no sense...If you want a pint you should be able to get one...If you don't want to drink and respect the day that's in it don't go to the pub...Simple as....

Kepti

tayto lover wrote: »

You should visit some of the Arab states.

That's a terrible argument.

Improbable

tayto lover wrote: »

You should visit some of the Arab states.

As it so happens, I lived in Bahrain for 8 years. What's your point? That some countries are worse for allowing government decisions to be made by religious motivations? Yeah, we all know that. Are you suggesting that so long as it doesn't sink down to the level of islamic arab states which use sharia law as a baseline, that we should allow government decisions to be made by religious motivation? Let's apply that elsewhere. You've got murderers. Murder is pretty bad, so when you think about it something like shoplifting isn't that much of a crime. Therefore, let's not do anything about it, let's just ignore all instances of shoplifting and not even consider it a crime.

The point is, as I've stated before:

Improbable wrote: »

What's ridiculous is that the policies of the catholic church are dictating to people what they can and can't do. I don't care if it's only for the entire year, 2 days or only for 10 minutes of 1 day. I'm not catholic and I don't want the catholic church to be the reason that I'm told I can or can't do something.

If you still don't get it, let me say it again. I don't care if the influence of the catholic church isn't as extensive as religion is in certain countries. Would I be more vocal about it if it was that bad? Yes, I probably would.

Going back to the murder analogy, You might want to give murderers life sentences. Would you do the same for a shoplifter? Or would you be more likely to give him a fine and some enforced community service? Yes, some countries are worse than others, and yes, some crimes are worse than others. That doesn't mean you stop considering shoplifting a crime, just the same way you don't consider religious influence on government policy to be an acceptable thing, regardless of the extent.

Zillah

witnessmenow wrote: »

2 days a year for pubs to be closed is low enough as it is.

Pubs can be closed whenever they like.

Wile E. Coyote

shadowcomplex wrote: »

isnt it about time this archaic rule where a person cant buy drink on good friday should be done away with, who are the goverment to tell me or tell anyone what we can or can not do, we aren't supposed to eat meat on good friday either, how come they dont enforce the non selling of this?

Exactly. Let's do away with Christmas, Saint Stephens day and Saint Patricks day as well. Who are the government to tell me I can't work these days or that I should get extra pay for them?

tayto lover

Went down the street this morning and the amount of lads who were standing outside pubs waiting for them to open was crazy. Withdrawal symptoms after only one day shut. Ireland really has a problem.

liamw

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

Exactly. Let's do away with Christmas, Saint Stephens day and Saint Patricks day as well. Who are the government to tell me I can't work these days or that I should get extra pay for them?

It's illegal to work on these days is it? It's illegal for you to decline the extra pay is it?

strobe

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

Exactly. Let's do away with Christmas, Saint Stephens day and Saint Patricks day as well. Who are the government to tell me I can't work these days or that I should get extra pay for them?

The government does neither of those things you silly canine.

yawha

tayto lover wrote: »

Maybe it could be called "Whinging Friday" as that is the National past-time !

I read that as "Winning Friday".

That would be a fúcking awesome holiday!

krudler

Wile E. Coyote wrote: »

Exactly. Let's do away with Christmas, Saint Stephens day and Saint Patricks day as well. Who are the government to tell me I can't work these days or that I should get extra pay for them?

Since when do people not work these days? I worked on all of them