Donuts

teednab-el

Roads recently around my location are destroyed with donuts and tyre marks. An absolute disgrace that the guards aren't out targetting these types of drivers. These drivers should not be allowed on the road with their cars.

AugustusMinimus

What difference do tyre marks make.

Surely the safety of other drivers is what you should care about far more ?

jimbob86

teednab-el wrote: »

Roads recently around my location are destroyed with donuts and tyre marks. An absolute disgrace that the guards aren't out targetting these types of drivers. These drivers should not be allowed on the road with their cars.

what a terrible waste of donuts.

James2693

Soz bot dat, I tuk me savage micra ou las nite. Goh a chase from d pigs aswell. Serious buzz mawn.

Tomebagel

In fairness a few rings on a road at 4 in the mornin when the roads are very queit isnt the worst thing that can be done,how exactly does it affect you op?

As bad as it seems,the people that do it are very careful not to do it when theres other cars coming towards them etc..

Bumpstop

mmmmmmmmmmmm doughnuts, Homer hungry.

iphone4g

teednab-el wrote: »

Roads recently around my location are destroyed with donuts and tyre marks. An absolute disgrace that the guards aren't out targetting these types of drivers. These drivers should not be allowed on the road with their cars.

You aint got much to worry about.

The whole country ie effin destroyed

Ardennes1944

I can hear em up the road as i type this, as per usual. It's a very calming noise to fall asleep to:D

Del2005

Guards targeting donuts. They should be after rice cakes, it would be much healthier for them.

purity

teednab-el wrote: »

Roads recently around my location are destroyed with donuts and tyre marks. An absolute disgrace that the guards aren't out targetting these types of drivers. These drivers should not be allowed on the road with their cars.

I agree fully, where the donut marks are on roads are potentially very dangerous places and can kill other driver's.
The places these idiots go to do their donuts (hence waste of diesl/petrol, waster of tyres, nothing better to do) are where gardai usually wouldn't be but lately I have noticed that it's late in the night I'm guessing 3-5am it's happening and the noise form it! and it's usually on a main road. God forgive me but they need a good taste of their own medicine before some innocent bystander or driver gets hurt

corktina

what you talking bouit? the Gards love donuts....

ShadowHearth

Oh god ... Anather op emo alert...

Doing donuts on empty road killed how many people in the last 20 years? There were not a single case where someone died because of sugar and flour on tue road...

corktina

just for the record, the Gards DO target "this sort of driver". ANyone young who takes pride in their motor will tell you they are constantly stopped by the Gards who make a practice of harassing "boy racer" types. 50% of this is down to good policing and the other 50% is just plain bullying a soft target.

Del2005

purity wrote: »

I agree fully, where the donut marks are on roads are potentially very dangerous places and can kill other driver's.

Eh, motoring is potentially dangerous and if not treated as such results in deaths. People driving like lunatics is part of everyday life.

The places these idiots go to do their donuts (hence waste of diesl/petrol, waster of tyres, nothing better to do)

I consider some cars a waste of petrol/diesel and loads of other resources their owners may disagree, but each to their own.

are where gardai usually wouldn't be but lately I have noticed that it's late in the night I'm guessing 3-5am it's happening and the noise form it! and it's usually on a main road.

Maybe our Gardaí should be doing more patrols not eating donuts in the station.

God forgive me but they need a good taste of their own medicine before some innocent bystander or driver gets hurt

Or maybe we need dedicated off road areas where people can race/act the maggot. This isn't an Irish problem and other countries haven't solved it.

biko

Set up camp with high resolution camera and get them on film.
Hand film over to Gardai, post on youtube.
Sorted.

Rovi

There are rather a spectacular set of donut marks on the southbound side of the N7, somewhere vaguely near the Kill/Naas end, I think.

Whatever it was, it got well lit up.

Carry on...

Ardennes1944

I dunno about tyre marks, but someone drew a huge knob on the Tarmac of the car park where I work

Gary ITR

Tomebagel wrote: »

In fairness a few rings on a road at 4 in the mornin when the roads are very queit isnt the worst thing that can be done,how exactly does it affect you op?

As bad as it seems,the people that do it are very careful not to do it when theres other cars coming towards them etc..

orly?

These are the kind of morons that cause the likes of me to be getting attention from GTC

Gregor Samsa

Tomebagel wrote: »

As bad as it seems,the people that do it are very careful not to do it when theres other cars coming towards them etc..

4 or 5 spots of them have appeared on the M18 in recent days.

I don't know about you, but I don't really trust an idiot who gets his kicks out of spinning his car around repeatedly on a bloody motorway to be looking out for me.

ShadowHearth

Onkle wrote: »

orly?

These are the kind of morons that cause the likes of me to be getting attention from GTC

We all know the rule in Ireland: one idiot did something stupid, so now we got god given right to bash everysingle individual who has something comman with that idiot. In this case: performance car.

I am not saint, I did donuts before, when I was doing them it was miles away from nearest town in the middle of forest in abandoned carpark. I am not proud of this, but if there would be some controlled enviromemt in the county I live, then wouldn't be doing it on public (abandoned) car park. I would pay money to get in safe enviromemt where I could mess around. I would know that I don't need to worry about breaking law and my own and anther safety. ( even if donut is not as dangerous as drama queens try to make it )

The lad in the video is a tool. I am a car enthusiast ( or as you like to call: boyracer ) and I would get that peasant out of his mr2 and kick the living **** out of him. People like him makes us look like Nazis of modern world...

Gary ITR

ShadowHearth wrote: »

The lad in the video is a tool. I am a car enthusiast ( or as you like to call: boyracer ) and I would get that peasant out of his mr2 and kick the living **** out of him. People like him makes us look like Nazis of modern world...

Agreed. That particular MR2 was killed in Ballymount, it was crashed into while (wait for it) doing donuts

daveharnett

purity wrote: »

I agree fully, where the donut marks are on roads are potentially very dangerous places and can kill other driver's.

Wha? If Brundle and co have thought me anything, it's that a layer of rubber on the road improves grip.

teednab-el wrote: »

Roads recently around my location are destroyed with donuts and tyre marks. An absolute disgrace that the guards aren't out targetting these types of drivers. These drivers should not be allowed on the road with their cars.

This all sounds a little hysterical. What have the tyre marks ever done to you? Fair enough, the lads who create them are often not the most responsible drivers, but I'd much rather they were away from civilization going in tiny circles than actually driving somewhere where they will meet real humans.

Bottom line, a certain percentage of young lads will dick around with their cars. Since we won't provide them with an affordable proper place and time for same, the best we can hope for is that they do it at low speed and far away from the rest of us. Retail parks are a boon for this - lots of open space, with no residents to disturb and no pedestrians/motorists to endanger. We should absolutely encourage more of them to keep their gates open at night.

Zubeneschamali

daveharnett wrote: »

I'd much rather they were away from civilization going in tiny circles than actually driving somewhere where they will meet real humans.

I'd prefer if they weren't going around in tiny circles on the frickin motorway in the dark when I'm approaching at 120 kph.

Tomebagel

If more of this thing was done there would be alot less of it done in public

only way to stop it on public roads is to provide a safe place to do it instead i.e a large closed off carpark at night where it wont be busy with people

cjt156

Onkle wrote: »

Agreed. That particular MR2 was killed in Ballymount, it was crashed into while (wait for it) doing donuts

There's actually a youtube link to it referenced in the vid above. I was wondering if it was the same one - green-gold fliptone paint looks different according to the light.
Ah well, live by the sword, die by the sword.

I'd agree on having organised events for this BTW, get it off the street. But the usual hang-wringing "won't someone PLEASE think of the children" types would never let it happen. Thereby ensuring it stays on the street.

Gary ITR

cjt156 wrote: »

I'd agree on having organised events for this BTW, get it off the street. But the usual hang-wringing "won't someone PLEASE think of the children" types would never let it happen. Thereby ensuring it stays on the street.

Unfortunately the amount of red tape involved makes it impossible. A venture like this will never get political backing

Also this popped up on another site this week, I know the author and it was written about 4 years ago but most points are still relevant

Blog wrote:

Street Racing & the Boy Racer

”Street Racing & the Boy Racer” its not a headline that will shock any of you i’m sure, You must be immune to it by now and the hype that invariably follows. Pleasant Sunday mornings ruined & readers horified to learn of organised street racing etc, young testosterone fueled modifiers flying in the face of all that is good & decent, ”Something must be done to stop them”



The reality on the other hand may be harder to push as headline news so whats the use in that?

I have been involved in the scene here in Ireland for a long number of years now and am constantly amazed at the level of Hostility towards modifiers. Ok we’ve all seen idiots acting reckless on our roads but for every boy racer who speeds past you’ll find

1. The Tdi driver: King of the motorway who secretly thinks he/she is michael schumacher’s distant cousin, Tailgating ’til you finally submit & make way to see him passing in a cloud of black smoke Most likely to drive: Diesel Merc/Beemer/VW

2. The cool school run: applying make up in the mirror,shaving,ringing child minder, stretched between rear child seat & drivers seat dressing children while dressing themselves with no concept of whats happening on the road outside their family econo box. Most likely to drive: Picasso/Galaxy/Trajet

3. Lane Hogger: think they own the road in front of them, these are the people who wont pull out & allow you to join the motorway, in rush hour traffic they leave 2 km gaps to the car in front & will make no attempt to close this gap unless someone tries to pull out in front of them at which time they accelerate at breakneck speeds to prevent this. on the few occasions when traffic is light they insist on doing 80kph on the motorway blocking the flow of traffic. Most likely to drive: Yaris/Polo/Seat

Which catagory do you fit into?

I think its refreshing to see young men(and ever increasing numbers of young ladies) take so much pride in what they are doing to their cars, they spend time planning their next ”Mod” they toil, they save, scrimp & scrape, they persevere, they polish and all for NO REWARD except the pride they achieve from their hard work. These are the types of Qualities that we all want to instill in our Nations Youth, Yet when our youth show these qualities themselves we want to clip their wings

THE MEDIA

I will not spend much time here as the once noble art of reporting the truth is mostly led by ability to sell hype without much substance at the moment, give the people what they want lol

THE RSA(road safety authority)

I think should recieve all our support, although they need to be more pro active. I’ve never met anyone who ever admitted to being a bad driver but there are plenty out there. We need to push for advanced driver training and graduated licences.Recently i have heard that in Poland the authorities allow young modifiers to race on designated city streets at night, at any speed in a semi controlled environment. Now i’m not suggesting the RSA push to close off O’Connell street at night but they could get behind the building of facilities for these young modifiers. I spoke to a ”MAN” in a position to set in motion the developement of a track about 18 months ago, he returned a few days later in no doubt it would be a viable business however he did’nt believe it would recieve any type of political backing & would be unlikely to receive planning etc.

THE MODIFIERS

Need to grow up & show some responsability………. and they will, in their late 20′s/early 30′s, just like the rest of us did!! In the meantime,they spend all this money & put all this effort but have no outlet, no Dragstrip, no Track, so like any wound up youngster they end up making their own in a quite industrial estate & end up in trouble with the Gardai. These young people come from every type of background imaginable, they are the driving force of Ireland 20 years hence and we should not Demonise them if we value our pensions.

THE GARDAI

Tend to react to media articles & tar all modifiers with the same brush, i’ve been told openly by members of the Gardai that i should change my car if i dont want to be stopped so much, but i was under the impression it was supposed to be ”How You Drive, Not What You Drive” ( full B,C,D licence with no points) . So a story appears in one of the rags on Sunday & by monday morning the commisioner decides to crack down on ”Boy Racers”. So it travels down the chain of command & for 2 months young modifiers have to spend large parts of their journey sitting on the hard shoulder getting Grief for the sins of the few who made the headlines.It would be counterproductive to alienate a large portion of our mechanically propelled youth. Gardai should try to reach out to these young men & women to become involved in organising events, these are ordinary kids with healthy interests in cars, not criminals.

YOU, SOCIETY

I’m sure that some of you reading this will admit on reflection, that you took some pleasure passing a so called ”boy racer” pulled over by the Gardai reassuring yourself ”They’re only getting what they deserve” blissfully unaware of why the hapless youngster was pulled! Should we really want to smother our youth or strangle their development, if you try & stop young people doing something they will rebel against you. Most of these young people sacrifice everything for their cars, we should try to harness this enthusiasm & provide the facilities for these young modifiers to flourish, as we do with other sports, As kids we all played football on the road, did’nt we?? nowadays people book the astro-park for an hour, a proper facility, floodlit etc. if we provide track facilities for these young modifiers it will take them off the streets keep them away from drink & drugs & generally keep them out of mischief. Access to Mondello is limited & very expensive although they are getting better with more open/private trackdays in my opinion they really are cashing in by charging people to come in & watch amateurs. A couple of drag strips dotted around the country would be relatively cheap to develope & run, we must build safe environments for young people to race & test their efforts, if we dont they will race where & when they get the chance.You cannot stop it & if you try you will drive it underground. if like the young footballer booking the astro-park your son or daughter was able to book the Dragstrip for a few safe runs & get it out of their system would’nt you rest easy knowing the were’nt in some industrial estate.

there are worse things you could be doing

vectra

Someone mention donuts??


I would much prefer to see a guy trashing his tyres in the middle of the night amusing himself than seeing 2 or 3 young lads racing on backroads..

Whats all this "Controlled" areas all about??

Look at this video ( DIREGARD THE CAR MODEL PLEASE )

I was looking for something else when I saw this
Watch from 1.55 on.. Tell me who is safe there??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwVhtFoaxEo

Cmar-Ireland

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTgcxcFmkQ

Del2005

cjt156 wrote: »

I'd agree on having organised events for this BTW, get it off the street. But the usual hang-wringing "won't someone PLEASE think of the children" types would never let it happen. Thereby ensuring it stays on the street.

The worst part it that they won't even realise the irony

Mc Love

There are loads of donut/skid marks on the R559 near Dunquin in Kerry and also some on stretch of road right on the cliff near Inch on the R561

And this morning I saw them just outside Annacotty on N7

corktina

Onkle wrote: »

Unfortunately the amount of red tape involved makes it impossible. A venture like this will never get political backing

Also this popped up on another site this week, I know the author and it was written about 4 years ago but most points are still relevant

ya wan shaving whilst putting on her make up...any chance of a phone number....

Gary ITR

corktina wrote: »

ya wan shaving whilst putting on her make up...any chance of a phone number....

Sure you've already dated her

n97 mini

Tomebagel wrote: »

As bad as it seems,the people that do it are very careful not to do it when theres other cars coming towards them etc..

So... they have a representative association, and you are head of that association, or how do you speak with such authority.

Acting the bolix is acting the bolix and therefore dangerous.

DjKlubster

Well I cant understand why yer complaining about this... Im a young lad currently working on a project car so im not driving yet so i hang round with one me mates who drive... Constantly Being stopped by the gaurds even tho theres nothing illegal on it atall...Whereas you see other people driving around and yu could name 10 things straight off that are illegal just by looking at it and they would NEVER once stopped by the gaurds... Its a F***ing Disgrace...If yur going to start pulling modified cars then the least yu could do is be fair about it!!

Now To the donuts thing!! What harm is cars diffing at all hours in the morning?? as long as its not near houses den i think yu may stop yur whinging!! Ive been around many times wen diffing was goin on... 1 dem wer completely off road down near a forest wer no one lived de other was in a car park(which i wasnt that fond of il be honest of that) and the third i cant say cause it will give it away straight away...But it was nowhere near a house!! So wen thinking of it "Boy Racers" ( And believe me i hate that term with a passion) are always considerate of wer they go doin "Donuts" or Diffing so stop yer whinging!!!!

Testament1

n97 mini wrote: »

So... they have a representative association, and you are head of that association, or how do you speak with such authority.

Acting the bolix is acting the bolix and therefore dangerous.

Actually its all relative. There is a HUGE difference between doing donuts in the middle of the day on a road with traffic coming and going in both directions and doing donuts at 3 or 4 in the morning when there is almost no chance of meeting other traffic.

How often have people on here been out for a drive at night and come across some one doing rings in the middle of the road?? It may be a stupid thing to be at but at least the lads who are at it generally do it when there is little risk of other traffic getting caught up in it. I see people do stupid things on the road everyday and I'd be far more worried about them than some young lad doing a few rings on an empty road in the middle of the night. :rolleyes:

Graham_B18C

DjKlubster wrote: »

Well I cant understand why yer complaining about this... Im a young lad currently working on a project car so im not driving yet so i hang round with one me mates who drive... Constantly Being stopped by the gaurds even tho theres nothing illegal on it atall...Whereas you see other people driving around and yu could name 10 things straight off that are illegal just by looking at it and they would NEVER once stopped by the gaurds... Its a F***ing Disgrace...If yur going to start pulling modified cars then the least yu could do is be fair about it!!

Now To the donuts thing!! What harm is cars diffing at all hours in the morning?? as long as its not near houses den i think yu may stop yur whinging!! Ive been around many times wen diffing was goin on... 1 dem wer completely off road down near a forest wer no one lived de other was in a car park(which i wasnt that fond of il be honest of that) and the third i cant say cause it will give it away straight away...But it was nowhere near a house!! So wen thinking of it "Boy Racers" ( And believe me i hate that term with a passion) are always considerate of wer they go doin "Donuts" or Diffing so stop yer whinging!!!!

Wha?! I drive a White Type R and have only been pulled over once because of what I drove in a year and a half of ownership. So I doubt your friend is doing nothing to warrant a chat from the Guards.

I was working in Castlebar a few months back, every friday there was fresh Tyre marks on the N5, about 20kms from Castlebar so a fairly busy road. I think in empty carparks and the like that they're not doing any harm but on National Roads is a bit dodgy and just shouldn't be done.

Midnight_EG

Onkle wrote: »

Agreed. That particular MR2 was killed in Ballymount, it was crashed into while (wait for it) doing donuts

Greenford is in London

DjKlubster

LIGHTNING wrote: »

You sound like the type of person that gives proper motor enthusiats a bad name. You think that your "miles" away from the nearest house but you dont realise how far tyre noise travels. How about you cop on and stop messing about on the roads.

Well yu clearly didint read what i just said!!!! I dont drive at the moment!!! I have a project car that il more than likely sell wen im finished with it!! And i Dont actual have a license yet as i couldnt be bothered send off for it!! I like cars!! And i believe that RWD cars wer only put on earth for one thing!! But i have nothing to do wid it if its nat in a right spot!! the one in the forest was so far a way that we couldnt find it for ages and wen we did we couldnt hear the cars from the main road!! So read before you writ the next time!!

Mc Love

Empty car parks or not, you can still hear the sounds from a good bit. Raheen Industrial Estate is one where you hear lads "diffin" in the nearby housing estates.

Doing it on the roads must count as dangerous driving - and I am sure if your insurance company found out, your premium would sky rocket

TestTransmission

DjKlubster wrote: »

Well yu clearly didint read what i just said!!!! I dont drive at the moment!!! I have a project car that il more than likely sell wen im finished with it!! And i Dont actual have a license yet as i couldnt be bothered send off for it!! I like cars!! And i believe that RWD cars wer only put on earth for one thing!! But i have nothing to do wid it if its nat in a right spot!! the one in the forest was so far a way that we couldnt find it for ages and wen we did we couldnt hear the cars from the main road!! So read before you writ the next time!!

Are you 12?

Gary ITR

Midnight_EG wrote: »

Greenford is in London

Greenfort isn't though

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greenfort+Avenue,+Lucan,+Ireland&aq=0&sll=49.313932,-123.140945&sspn=0.242169,0.676346&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greenfort+Ave,+Dublin+22,+Ireland&ll=53.349347,-6.400716&spn=0.003138,0.021136&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.349344,-6.400711&panoid=5T17HjCVT_qMGc9IssCoVA&cbp=11,355.07,,0,-1.92

DjKlubster

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Firstly stop using text speak its impossible to read.

1) You have no license, because your too lazy to apply
2) Hence you have no insurance
3) Just because you cant hear the cars on the main road doesnt mean they can hear you.

You sound like a person I would like to avoid on any road. Keep up the good work, you will most likely have a nice accident at some stage when your messing about.

Again I will Say I dont Drive!! How will i cause an accident wen i dont get behind the wheel of a car?? I dont think you understand what i mean?? I only go to watch i dont actually do donuts.. never done them ever.. I dont get number 3..The nearest houses were on the main road. if we couldnt hear the cars in forest from the main road then how would people in houses hear them??

Midnight_EG

Onkle wrote: »

Greenfort isn't though

http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Greenfort+Avenue,+Lucan,+Ireland&aq=0&sll=49.313932,-123.140945&sspn=0.242169,0.676346&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Greenfort+Ave,+Dublin+22,+Ireland&ll=53.349347,-6.400716&spn=0.003138,0.021136&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.349344,-6.400711&panoid=5T17HjCVT_qMGc9IssCoVA&cbp=11,355.07,,0,-1.92

They have English accents in the video?

Gary ITR

Midnight_EG wrote: »

They have English accents in the video?

It's Greenfort, look at the streetview and look at the video, I linked to the exact spot

DjKlubster

TestTransmission wrote: »

Are you 12?

Clearly Not 12....19 actually!!

Graham_B18C

DjKlubster wrote: »

Again I will Say I dont Drive!! How will i cause an accident wen i dont get behind the wheel of a car?? I dont think you understand what i mean?? I only go to watch i dont actually do donuts.. never done them ever.. I dont get number 3..The nearest houses were on the main road. if we couldnt hear the cars in forest from the main road then how would people in houses hear them??

It's your whole bad attitude towards driving that LIGHTNING was getting at I think.

Gary ITR

DjKlubster wrote: »

Clearly Not 12....19 actually!!

Nothing clear about it. I drive a modified car and it's you and people like you that have me paying through the nose for insurance and also the cause of the new regulations regarding noisy exhausts etc etc. So grow up and cop on

How could anyone into cars be too lazy to sort themselves out with a license, like saying I love women but couldn't be arsed hooking up with any of them

DjKlubster

Graham_B18C wrote: »

It's your whole bad attitude towards driving that LIGHTNING was getting at I think.

Well fair enough then like but the only reason ive a bad attitude is cause i dont like to get attacked wen i give my opinion on something??

DjKlubster

Onkle wrote: »

Nothing clear about it. I drive a modified car and it's you and people like you that have me paying through the nose for insurance and also the cause of the new regulations regarding noisy exhausts etc etc. So grow up and cop on

I dont really like when people say that cause it not because of me?? I havent owned a car till the one i have now which wont be on the road for another couple of months.. so iv never crashed or had a loud exhaust on.

RoverJames wrote: »

How could anyone into cars be too lazy to sort themselves out with a license, like saying I love women but couldn't be arsed hooking up with any of them

Well reason for that was that i had no car so there not much point in having a license and no car..but have the theory done so all thats left to do is send it off and that will be done when the car is ready.

TwoShedsJackson

DjKlubster wrote: »

Well yu clearly didint read what i just said!!!! I dont drive at the moment!!! I have a project car that il more than likely sell wen im finished with it!! And i Dont actual have a license yet as i couldnt be bothered send off for it!! I like cars!! And i believe that RWD cars wer only put on earth for one thing!! But i have nothing to do wid it if its nat in a right spot!! the one in the forest was so far a way that we couldnt find it for ages and wen we did we couldnt hear the cars from the main road!! So read before you writ the next time!!

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