Former Aircoach Ballinteer Service

SandyfordGuy

New Aircoach Service: BALLINTEER - DUBLIN AIRPORT
20th April 2011

Aircoach, Ireland’s premier luxury coach operator, is very pleased to announce that from Wednesday 20th April 2011 we will commence service on the route from Ballinteer to Dublin Airport.

Our new route will see Aircoach serve Ballinteer, Dundrum Shopping Centre, Churchtown, Nutgrove Shopping Centre, Rathfarnham, Terenure, Templeogue and Spawell, with services operating via the M50 to Dublin Airport up to every half an hour at certain times of the day.

Our fares for this service are €9.00 for an Adult Single ticket, with an Adult Return ticket priced at just €15.00. If you book online in advance, up to 5pm the day before your travel, not only do you guarantee a seat on the departure of your choice, but you save money too as an Adult Single ticket is just €8.00 and an Adult Return ticket priced at only €14.00.

Additionally we will offer Child Single tickets for €2.50 and Child Return tickets for €5.00

We regret that we have been advised that new services are able to join the Free Travel Pass scheme and, as a result, we are unable to accept Free Travel Passes on the Ballinteer to Dublin Airport service.

Please find a link below to our new Ballinteer timetable. Our first service from Dublin Airport will be at 14:15 on Wednesday 20th April 2011, and our first service from Ballinteer will be at 15:30 on Wednesday 20th April 2011. We then plan to operate 24 hours a day, as per our timetable.

Please see our timetable at http://www.aircoach.ie/table.routes.ballinteer.php or download a copy of our new route flyer from http://www.aircoach.ie/media/BALLINTEERflyer.pdf.

Why not book on-line, in advance, to guarantee a seat on the departure of your choice?

Please visit www.aircoach.ie for more details.

If you would like any further information, please do not hesitate to contact our Customer Service Team on 01 844 7118 or by email to info@aircoach.ie.

We are very pleased to be introducing this new Aircoach service, and we look forward to welcoming you onboard our new service in the very near future.

Is there now a block on new services accepting the Free Travel Pass? if so when did this come in, is the first I have heard of it but the news item seems to suggest so.

Which begs the question, does this mean they are going to water this down soon, or stop it being used on current services, or are private operators going to be excluded from the scheme?

Cookie_Monster

We regret that we have been advised that new services are able to join the Free Travel Pass scheme and, as a result, we are unable to accept Free Travel Passes on the Ballinteer to Dublin Airport service.

I would be sceptical that they are not allowed accept the passes, just that they are no longer being paid for them anymore;)
Not do it out of the goodness of yer hearts Aircoach

How much of a conflict with the 16a is there long that route?

SandyfordGuy

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I would be sceptical that they are not allowed accept the passes, just that they are no longer being paid for them anymore;)
Not do it out of the goodness of yer hearts Aircoach

How much of a conflict with the 16a is there long that route?

Quite a few different stops, as well as some of the areas served by the 16A, although this does give people a choice of a more direct service that would be substantially quicker than the 16A as it is going via the M50.

Full list of stops here:
http://www.aircoach.ie/table.routes.ballinteer.php

To be fair, in the current economic climate anyone would be silly to accept free passes without getting paid for them, especially on a new route being launched during a recession.

LXFlyer

At the moment the stretch from Churchtown to Terenure conflicts with the 16a, but going forward not as much as you would think, given that under Network Direct the 16 is planned to run from Ballinteer (Kingston) to the Airport.

Certainly off-peak it is possible to get from Ballinteer to Dublin Airport in 50 minutes using the 14/a or 16 and 747 (I've done it quite a bit)- which for me would still be preferable to taking the roundabout route the Aircoach will, especially as you can use period passes on the 747!

However the availability of late night/early morning services is a definite plus!!

AlekSmart

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

I would be sceptical that they are not allowed accept the passes, just that they are no longer being paid for them anymore;)
Not do it out of the goodness of yer hearts Aircoach

How much of a conflict with the 16a is there long that route?

A very interesting development regarding the Free Travel Scheme....definitely more evidence that the DSP has become aware of a very substantial problem concerning funding vis-a-vis numbers of "customers" availing of it.

As for conflicting with the 16A (Soon to be 16) I'd suggest virtually nil.

Aircoach at €8 (Web) and 16A at €2.30 (€1.85 travel 90)...totally different customer base a fact which has become evident over the past decade in Dublin.

Except for the Express Airlink service,Aircoach and Dublin Bus largely operate in harmony with little conflict apart from the odd fist wave at an overcrowded City Centre Stop....(Usually caused by a Taxi Driver scalping the waiting Aircoach Customers)

The Taxi fraternity are the BIG losers here,make no mistake,and you can expect some interesting shennanigans along the proposed route,although thankfully the poor passengers will be safe once their on the M50 !!!!

schemingbohemia

I hadn't realised free pass holders could use it on other Aircoach services! Had never noticed many people "touching the pocket" as they went past the driver or even going so far as to, you know, actually show it. Though usually when I use Aircoach it's early in the morning.

AlekSmart

schemingbohemia wrote: »

I hadn't realised free pass holders could use it on other Aircoach services! Had never noticed many people "touching the pocket" as they went past the driver or even going so far as to, you know, actually show it. Though usually when I use Aircoach it's early in the morning.

Well the DSP Free Pass was not accepted on the Greystones service initially either,but it was negotiated at a later stage.

First Group may well be attempting to negotiate a more commercial rate with the DSP as the current Free Travel situation in the UK is seeing operators such as First Bus becoming far more focused upon the business of getting paid for the job !!!

KD345

Have the Department Of Transport changed their stance on these routes?

It's quite different from their days of blocking the 37 to Blanchardstown Centre because of Urbus, or blocking the 41x using the Port Tunnel and the 141 because of Swords express? With the 37 getting approval last week and now this, I'm curious.

This route certainly gives more choice for those in South Dublin to connect with Dublin Airport.

LXFlyer

It has nothing to do with the DoT now - The route licensing is now being managed by the transport professionals at the NTA who have a far greater customer focus rather than the myopic approach of the DoT.

KD345

lxflyer wrote: »

It has nothing to do with the DoT now - The route licensing is now being managed by the transport professionals at the NTA who have a far greater customer focus rather than the myopic approach of the DoT.

So that explains it!

LXFlyer

AlekSmart wrote: »

A very interesting development regarding the Free Travel Scheme....definitely more evidence that the DSP has become aware of a very substantial problem concerning funding vis-a-vis numbers of "customers" availing of it.

As for conflicting with the 16A (Soon to be 16) I'd suggest virtually nil.

Aircoach at €8 (Web) and 16A at €2.30 (€1.85 travel 90)...totally different customer base a fact which has become evident over the past decade in Dublin.

Except for the Express Airlink service,Aircoach and Dublin Bus largely operate in harmony with little conflict apart from the odd fist wave at an overcrowded City Centre Stop....(Usually caused by a Taxi Driver scalping the waiting Aircoach Customers)

The Taxi fraternity are the BIG losers here,make no mistake,and you can expect some interesting shennanigans along the proposed route,although thankfully the poor passengers will be safe once their on the M50 !!!!

Alek I could not put it any better if I tried.

I would imagine that the taximen will be livid at this. Fares of EUR 50- EUR 60 have been their bread and butter from south county Dublin to the Airport. This will offer a comfortable alternative for EUR 8.00!

As you say I also don't think that DB have too much to fear from this service - the 16 will offer a cheaper alternative.

snugglebear

the last time we were away we got a taxi back from the airport to rathfarnham, it cost us €56.00 the same journey there was €37.00 but we were coming back at about 2 in the morning and departing during the day, this new coach should save us some money in the future

schemingbohemia

Just wondering if their route could have better designed to avoid the bottleneck that is Rathfarnham/Terenure? When I lived out there the 16/16a could take a good bit of time in rush hour to get from Rathfarnham to Terenure with the haphazard bus lanes.

LXFlyer

Given peak travel to the airport is pre-0700 will that be a big problem? I can't see it being the major problem.

To me the issue would be going in the opposite direction through Terenure.

dowlingm

I think there was sentence construction fail on the Aircoach PR - shurely "new services are UNABLE to join the Free Travel Scheme"?

In any case, the FTS should be an early victim of cutbacks - I'd cut that before I'd cut the actual income people get, especially those people who don't live in areas well provided for by public transport and thus for whom the FTS is of limited benefit apart from being another way to subsidise CIE (see also School Bus National Contracts).

devnull

They seem to have fixed that wording mistake.

KD345 - This route whilst running alongside the 16A for some of the route, is going a totally different way to the airport and for the rest of it. The other routes you mention had much more common ground compared to the two we are talking about in this instance.

It'll be interesting to see how this does, it opens up a direct airport link to some areas which have not had it before, and gives a different option to those who can currently get the 16A. As previously mentioned the taxi drivers will no doubt try and tempt people to go with them by all getting into a car.

Unfortunately though, as we have seen with the Nitelink, customers who do decide to go for a taxi fare matching option, in the long run cheat themselves, as less money for the transport companies means a fare rise, which will also result in the taxi drivers raising their charge by the same amount, then if the service continues, you can be sure the taxi drivers suddenly will be back to charging 40-50 euro a run again.

Doug89

I'm originally from Nutgrove and always got the 16a to the airport...what's this about it becoming the 16? Are they getting rid of the 16a and having Grange Road down to Churchtown use the 14a to get into town or something?

I personally still think I'd use the 16a, the aircoach will be 3 times the price. I'd say it'd be fair handy early in the morning though.

devnull

There is rumored to be plans to merge the 16A and the 16 to become a single route, the likes of lxflyer would be able to give you more info on that I'd say.

At the end of the day the Aircoach and DUblin Bus services will aim for slightly different markets.

The Aircoach service will cater for people who want a more comfortable ride, leather seats, free Wireless internet and a more relaxed, less stop and start journey where they're not bothered by people getting on and off every few minutes. It would be more attractive for business people too.

The Dublin Bus service however will suit people whop don't want to spend eight euro for a ride to the airport and want to use their Dublin Bus prepaid ticket that they have already paid for, want to have their luggage on the bus rather than underneath it and don't mind a slightly longer journey time and traffic the regular city bus is more likely to entail.

foggy_lad

dowlingm wrote: »

I think there was sentence construction fail on the Aircoach PR - shurely "new services are UNABLE to join the Free Travel Scheme"?

In any case, the FTS should be an early victim of cutbacks - I'd cut that before I'd cut the actual income people get, especially those people who don't live in areas well provided for by public transport and thus for whom the FTS is of limited benefit apart from being another way to subsidise CIE (see also School Bus National Contracts).

so if pensioners/disabled people live out in the country a few miles from the nearest town and post office you will start charging them for the weekly bus to town for their pension shopping etc which may be the only time they get out, if you lived in Ireland you might be more in tune with what is happening on the ground.

also from the way the report is worded and the DSP is not mentioned it may well be that the parent company has decide to not accept free travel passes on this route as those people are well covered already by the 16/a.

Heart

devnull wrote: »

At the end of the day the Aircoach and DUblin Bus services will aim for slightly different markets.

Isn't it a pity that this wasn't realised when DB applied to run a 24 hour 746 service alongside the previous Aircoach services...

H

dowlingm

foggy_lad wrote: »

so if pensioners/disabled people live out in the country a few miles from the nearest town and post office you will start charging them for the weekly bus to town for their pension shopping etc which may be the only time they get out, if you lived in Ireland you might be more in tune with what is happening on the ground.

Foggy - if the pension is cut instead it will affect more people overall. In any case I would start with the non pension FTP but pensioners in Canada only get discounted travel not free and they don't starve.

AlekSmart

dowlingm wrote: »

Foggy - if the pension is cut instead it will affect more people overall. In any case I would start with the non pension FTP but pensioners in Canada only get discounted travel not free and they don't starve.

Well spotted Dowlingm,the continued definition of our DSP arrangements as the "Free Travel Scheme" is a clue to it's unravelling.

Discounted or Concessionary schemes have ,some form of self-regard mechanism inbuilt,but our own Free Travel Scheme lost any semblance of that fadó fadó.....:mad:

markpb

I took this route at 6am this morning (great timing Aircoach :-D). None of the stops have poles or signs yet, you just have to wait about at the nearest DB bus stop and flag down the driver. In fact, I'm not sure where exactly my stop is and neither were the drivers (I flagged down an earlier one going the wrong way.)

We were well ahead of schedule for the entire trip so we crawled along and sat at a few stops for a minute or two each. I guess if the loadings increase, the timetable will be more accurate.

Very handy service.

SandyfordGuy

Seems pretty strange, in the past with the Dalkey/Greystones route they had the stops out for opening day.

The comparison with the 746 is a little different, the 746 would run parallel to a few Aircoach routes for the entire journey, the 15A and this new service conflicts nowhere near as much.

devnull

markpb wrote: »

I took this route at 6am this morning (great timing Aircoach :-D). None of the stops have poles or signs yet, you just have to wait about at the nearest DB bus stop and flag down the driver. In fact, I'm not sure where exactly my stop is and neither were the drivers (I flagged down an earlier one going the wrong way.)

I heard there was an issue with the stops at the last minute which means they won't be in place until after the Easter weekend.

Victor

dowlingm wrote: »

I think there was sentence construction fail on the Aircoach PR - shurely "new services are UNABLE to join the Free Travel Scheme"?

Possible or they are apologising for having Victor Meldrew on board.

I think one way of dealing with the Free Travel Scheme would be to create two fare or possibly three levels - the normal adult one and a merged schooldchild / child / Free Travel Scheme at about half fare. I'm not so sure about students - personally I'd prefer if they were giving meaningful grants instead of discounted transport.

foggy_lad

dowlingm wrote: »

Foggy - if the pension is cut instead it will affect more people overall. In any case I would start with the non pension FTP but pensioners in Canada only get discounted travel not free and they don't starve.

Is it really fair to compare transport and a free travel scheme in Ireland to Canada the UK or Germany though?

One thing that has happened in recent years is that a lot more people who are not disabled or pensioners have been able to avail of free travel passes by virtue of being carers for someone with the travel pass, if you recieve a carers allowance you are automatically entitled to free travel so that parents of children with any kind of disability or learning disorder are getting and using the free travel passes.

AlekSmart

foggy_lad wrote: »

Is it really fair to compare transport and a free travel scheme in Ireland to Canada the UK or Germany though?

One thing that has happened in recent years is that a lot more people who are not disabled or pensioners have been able to avail of free travel passes by virtue of being carers for someone with the travel pass, if you recieve a carers allowance you are automatically entitled to free travel so that parents of children with any kind of disability or learning disorder are getting and using the free travel passes.

Foggy,I agree that comparisons can be difficult to make in these cases,however,disabilities don't recognise borders,so a Canadian autistic is no different to an Irish one etc.

What your post does do,is highlight the rather basic elemental failings of our Free travel Scheme as it now is.

"A lot more people who are not disabled or pensioners have been able to avail of Free Travel Passes"

Agreed 101%,but,can we then say that "a lot more funding" is being put into the DSP's scheme ?

If the DSP carry on as they currently are doing,the scheme will hit the buffers as the numbers of people contributing into the pot fall below the numbers taking out of it.

Added to this is your 2nd point of persons with "any kind of disability or learning disorder" now getting the benefit of universal Free Travel within the State.

The increasingly loose definition of such conditions has/is leading to totally unsustainable levels of Free Travel Pass issue.

It is now one hell of a thorny problem,which,if not grasped rapidly will see the entire FT Scheme collapse.

Criteria will have to be substantially tightened and actual Free Pass numbers reduced in order to allow the genuinely deserving members to continue to avail of it.

The DSP's issue of Smart Cards will of itself see a big shake-out when it begins,but the real issue remains whether the Free Travel Scheme will become the "Concessionary Travel Scheme".

Victor

foggy_lad wrote: »

Is it really fair to compare transport and a free travel scheme in Ireland to Canada the UK or Germany though?

Why can't they be compared? In the UK, free travel tends to be restricted to local travel only. Here, one can go from Dingle to Derry for free.

I'm not against a scheme that provides benefits both ways, but it does need fairness and transparency.

AlekSmart

Victor wrote: »

Why can't they be compared? In the UK, free travel tends to be restricted to local travel only. Here, one can go from Dingle to Derry for free.

I'm not against a scheme that provides benefits both ways, but it does need fairness and transparency.

Well not quite,Victor...2009/2010 saw the UK Government introduce it's long awaited Countrywide Free Travel scheme.

Although it's a National Scheme within ENGLAND,it's funding mechanism remains devolved to Local Authorities,which is causing all manner of serious problems for LA's and Public Transport Operators over there.

Many LA's have had to scrimp and scavenge the cash from other worthy area's such as Public Libraries,Parks and OAP Day Centres in order to meet their commitments under the Free Travel scheme.

Some industry observers have written in the Trade Press of the very real risk of the national scheme collapsing altogether,with the situation reverting to the older but saner one of Local Authorities funding realistic Concessionary Travel within their own boundaries...

One major element to be taken into account here is the existance of UK Domestic Rates and other Local Taxation which remains the elephant sitting in our room for the foreseeable future !!!

Pablo Sanchez

Going by the previous posts, am i right in thinking the the free travel pass is acceptable on all Aircoach services except the one that has just been announced?

dowlingm

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0423/1224295311643.html

Travellers wet their whistle while waiting on a train that might not come
FREE TRAVEL passes for the over-65s were on show in the bar at Connolly railway station in Dublin yesterday, where alcohol was being served to anyone with a valid inter-city ticket.

Despite the Good Friday prohibition on the sale of alcohol, bars in railway stations are exempted as they have railway refreshment room licences, according to Barry Kenny, spokesman for Iarnród Éireann.

“I think back in 1902 it was regarded as inhuman to expect someone to undergo a railway journey without recourse to alcohol,” he noted.

Robert Connor, from Ringsend, Dublin, had a ticket for the Belfast train. Supping a Guinness, he said he was a retired sea-man.

“I got my ticket with this,” he said showing his free travel pass. “I missed one of the trains already. I’ll decide if I’ll go later. You know I’d say 99 per cent of the people in this bar won’t be travelling anywhere.”
(snip)

Victor

AlekSmart wrote: »

Well not quite,Victor...2009/2010 saw the UK Government introduce it's long awaited Countrywide Free Travel scheme.

Doesn't this only cover local travel, not "intercity" travel?

AlekSmart

Victor wrote: »

Doesn't this only cover local travel, not "intercity" travel?

Sorry Victor,I shudda made that clear...my bad !!:(

However,the principle of financing Free Stuff is what I',m tilting at,which is currently a major issue throughout England.

Just take a peep at the manner in which it all has to be explained....

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Publictransport/BusAndCoachTravel/DG_10036264

......No "Butter Vouchers" here....:)

foggy_lad

AlekSmart wrote: »

Foggy,I agree that comparisons can be difficult to make in these cases,however,disabilities don't recognise borders,so a Canadian autistic is no different to an Irish one etc.

What your post does do,is highlight the rather basic elemental failings of our Free travel Scheme as it now is.



Agreed 101%,but,can we then say that "a lot more funding" is being put into the DSP's scheme ?

If the DSP carry on as they currently are doing,the scheme will hit the buffers as the numbers of people contributing into the pot fall below the numbers taking out of it.

Added to this is your 2nd point of persons with "any kind of disability or learning disorder" now getting the benefit of universal Free Travel within the State.

The increasingly loose definition of such conditions has/is leading to totally unsustainable levels of Free Travel Pass issue.

It is now one hell of a thorny problem,which,if not grasped rapidly will see the entire FT Scheme collapse.

Criteria will have to be substantially tightened and actual Free Pass numbers reduced in order to allow the genuinely deserving members to continue to avail of it.

The DSP's issue of Smart Cards will of itself see a big shake-out when it begins,but the real issue remains whether the Free Travel Scheme will become the "Concessionary Travel Scheme".

Canadian german or other disabled persons in other countries get more benefits than in Ireland though, most have far superior health regimes and other services aimed specifically at the disabled, Ireland is in the third world in this regard.

My mention of persons "with any kind of disability" was to highlight that certain groups are considered disabled but due to their "condition" they should not be allowed on public transport.

devnull

The problem with the free travel scheme is as it is as has been said on here many times, is unsustainable, the first thing that needs to happen is proper smartcards to replace easily feigned pieces of paper, however I cannot see this happening in the short term, despit ethe fact it would no doubt save the companies a large amount of money in lost revenue!

LXFlyer

Bus stops have now appeared in Ballinteer!

dub_commuter

Were these cheap stops or the same style as used elsewhere? I'm surprised they had the money if it's the later.

Vic_08

devnull wrote: »

The problem with the free travel scheme is as it is as has been said on here many times, is unsustainable, the first thing that needs to happen is proper smartcards to replace easily feigned pieces of paper, however I cannot see this happening in the short term, despit ethe fact it would no doubt save the companies a large amount of money in lost revenue!

That is the point, It would save the transport companies revenue but would cost the DSP more to clean up their house and also instantly highlight just how much this scheme really costs.

If they had any sense all the transport operators in Ireland would group together and demand that the scheme be altered so they get revenue for each journey made based on the full consumer fare minus a discount (at most 25%) for the DSP scheme. If the DSP are unwilling or unable to fund this then it is their problem as the providers and supposed funders of the scheme.

Of course this will not happen as the private companies seem in general incapable of working together but mostly because CIE as the main operator (and by far the biggest loser of revenue) are not independent of government in any real sense so the useless cretins on the boards and senior management of the CIE companies are not going to throw that political bomb out of the hatch.

Afterall if and when FG does destroy, dismantle or sell off CIE these same cretins WILL be expecting a seamless transition into another overpaid management role in one of the countless govermnent departments or quangos not marked for destruction.

If I was running CIE I would give the DSP a deadline to introduce fully compatible photo-ID smartcards and remove all previous passes, if they were unwilling or unable to do this then I would do it internally (CIE already issue pointless photo-id cards to some DSP passholders) and set a date beyond which all original DSP passes would be invalid for travel. Then using the smartcard technology collate all pass use and charge the DSP appropriately giving them a full breakdown of use.

AlekSmart

Vic_08 wrote: »

That is the point, It would save the transport companies revenue but would cost the DSP more to clean up their house and also instantly highlight just how much this scheme really costs.

If I was running CIE I would give the DSP a deadline to introduce fully compatible photo-ID smartcards and remove all previous passes, if they were unwilling or unable to do this then I would do it internally (CIE already issue pointless photo-id cards to some DSP passholders) and set a date beyond which all original DSP passes would be invalid for travel. Then using the smartcard technology collate all pass use and charge the DSP appropriately giving them a full breakdown of use.

In other words,give Translink or the Northern Ireland Office a call and ask (nicely) if we can use their long running and highly efficient Senior SmartCard Concessionary Travel scheme...:)

(Remembering that Translink/NIO refused point-blank,to facilitate the Republic's desire to simply have it's citizens wave their bit's of coloured cardboard to get Free Stuff from them...If we wanted to use their system we had to use their methodology)

However,my bet is that the Senior People within the DSP know damn well just how skewed the Free Travel Scheme has become,but when you have ex-con's being interviewed on Prime Time RTE investigative programmes,openly talking of the DSP Free Pass being their "best selling line" then only the most stringent of action can solve the problem.

Sadly,stringent action is not the "Irish Way".....yet :rolleyes:

LXFlyer

dub_commuter wrote: »

Were these cheap stops or the same style as used elsewhere? I'm surprised they had the money if it's the later.

Glad to see you're as positive as ever about Aircoach!

They are trueform style stops - the modern ones.

SandyfordGuy

They've generally been pretty good with infrastructure such as bus stops, wouldn't be cheap but it's a lot better than the likes of Circle Line who put no information anywhere.

How is the service doing, from what I have been seeing it's been running ahead of time?

hackmann

just want to say how disappointed I am to learn that the Aircoach from Templeogue to the airport has stopped operating. I just rang their office and was told that it had stopped due to not enough people using the service .... my family have used it and found it very reliable and handy, especially when they were going on short trips. I had intended using it tomorrow morning as I do not drive and thought it would be an easy way to get out to the airport early in the morning..... maybe air coach should review the situation and advertise the service more to the areas it serviced. Keeping my fingers crossed .....

AlekSmart

hackmann wrote: »

just want to say how disappointed I am to learn that the Aircoach from Templeogue to the airport has stopped operating. I just rang their office and was told that it had stopped due to not enough people using the service .... my family have used it and found it very reliable and handy, especially when they were going on short trips. I had intended using it tomorrow morning as I do not drive and thought it would be an easy way to get out to the airport early in the morning..... maybe air coach should review the situation and advertise the service more to the areas it serviced. Keeping my fingers crossed .....

You're a bit late Hackmann.

However I suggest you and the Hackmanns simply go stand at the relevant Aircoach Stop,and a Taxi will materialize toute-suite,as occurred when the Aircoach service was operating....which largely scuppered it's chances of survival.

(However:Note Well that the Taxi Driver will most likely NOT offer you the Aircoach Fare this time round !!!!)

Victor

hackmann wrote: »

just want to say how disappointed I am to learn that the Aircoach from Templeogue to the airport has stopped operating. I just rang their office and was told that it had stopped due to not enough people using the service .... my family have used it and found it very reliable and handy, especially when they were going on short trips. I had intended using it tomorrow morning as I do not drive and thought it would be an easy way to get out to the airport early in the morning..... maybe air coach should review the situation and advertise the service more to the areas it serviced. Keeping my fingers crossed .....

From Nutgrove / Rathfarnham / Terenure / Harold's Cross use Dublin Bus route 16. Not as fast, but is cheaper. From Tallaght (The Square), there is the Airport Hopper.

http://www.dublinbus.ie/en/Your-Journey1/Timetables/All-Timetables/16-/
http://www.airporthopper.ie/

LXFlyer

Also route 15 to Busaras and the 747 from there to the Airport is another option.

hackmann

Thanks for all the other options and timetables...cheers

schemingbohemia

hackmann wrote: »

just want to say how disappointed I am to learn that the Aircoach from Templeogue to the airport has stopped operating. I just rang their office and was told that it had stopped due to not enough people using the service .... my family have used it and found it very reliable and handy, especially when they were going on short trips. I had intended using it tomorrow morning as I do not drive and thought it would be an easy way to get out to the airport early in the morning..... maybe air coach should review the situation and advertise the service more to the areas it serviced. Keeping my fingers crossed .....

Yes but this intended journey was presumably your and your family's and wider circle of locally based friends first attempt in 3 months to try and use the service as it has been suspended since Christmas 2012. Therein lies the problem.

As pointed out, buy a travel90 and get a 15 to Terenure then hop on a 16.

AlekSmart

It's also a good candidate for a Thread Re-Title ...

stop

Alas dont see much alternative other than taxi/ taxi to other aircoach route for 6:30am flights now!

LXFlyer

Or just avoid them!